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May 08, 2023, 07:03:58 PM
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I hope that Messi stays at PSG for one more year at least if we don't see him returning to Barcelona this summer

Making a "mistake" and apologizing is perfectly reasonable if the profit from the error outweighs the loss from the "reprimand" for the error. It's just business.
As for Messi's future career, I pray for both of these options (I want to see the situation heated to the limit  Grin ), but I am sure that I will not see either. Messi no longer matches the level of top clubs, and in order not to lose the halo that is around him, he will either go to the MLS or to Saudi Arabia. Perhaps he already regretted that he did not do it a year earlier.

It's good news that Messi is back in training after his apology, but I still don't think he can stay another season in such an environment. PSG cannot achieve the success they want and they may lose both Mbappe and Messi. I would like to see Messi return to Barcelona, rather than MLS or the Arabian leagues.
The fact that club owners cannot achieve such an important success as the Champions League despite having so much money shows that money is not everything. It's not worth spending that much money just to win the French league cup. Grin

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May 08, 2023, 07:21:52 PM
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Look who returned to training with PSG today, it's true that Lionel Messi caused a scene last week because PSG did not give permission to travel to Saudi Arabia. But yesterday Messi also apologized to the club and his colleagues regarding this matter and it seems that PSG accepted Messi's apology. Finally we can see Messi training again with the PSG main squad and ready to be part of continuing the next match. Regarding the two-week suspension sanction, it seems PSG has lifted it and they don't want to make the problem even longer.
Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.

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May 08, 2023, 08:08:34 PM
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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
Messi future is still ambiguous. His trip to Saudi Arabia might be a familial one for tourism but discussion his involvement in Saudi ambition to host World Cup and even playing there for a couple of season is probable too.
For his wealth and professional career, it would be better to continue with PSG for another season. For a historical ending in Europe, Barcelona might be the best pick but salary will be lower. For a fortune reason without professional career, Saudi Arabia will be better than the previous ones. It is up to him to pick.

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PSG were still strong before Messi's arrival here of course. But after creating this trio of Mbappe - Neymar - Messi the team have reached a more different level I think. But the main problem for this season has been the coach I'm afraid. Galtier was one of the worst options they could go with and they did it anyway. Here we are seeing them even having problems on winning the Ligue 1 title much easier than this.

With the right way of management PSG can also reach some bigger successes like winning the Champions League title. Even if they lose Messi they can still create a solution to ease this situation thanks to the right calls.

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PSG were still strong before Messi's arrival here of course. But after creating this trio of Mbappe - Neymar - Messi the team have reached a more different level I think. But the main problem for this season has been the coach I'm afraid. Galtier was one of the worst options they could go with and they did it anyway. Here we are seeing them even having problems on winning the Ligue 1 title much easier than this.

With the right way of management PSG can also reach some bigger successes like winning the Champions League title. Even if they lose Messi they can still create a solution to ease this situation thanks to the right calls.
No matter the kind of improvement that the trio Neymar, Mbappe and Messi brought to the PSG team. No matter the excitement and no matter the entertainment, I think they only have one duty to perform and which is the reason why PSG has spent so much money and that is to get the Champions League trophy but this trio as a team and individual at a point have failed to accomplish the reason they were signed. Do we push the whole blames to the coaching? Absolutely no, PSG doesn’t hire amateur coaches, they have been having atleast good coaches which is enough to propel an expensive squad like they of PSG.

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May 08, 2023, 11:09:12 PM
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PSG were still strong before Messi's arrival here of course. But after creating this trio of Mbappe - Neymar - Messi the team have reached a more different level I think. But the main problem for this season has been the coach I'm afraid. Galtier was one of the worst options they could go with and they did it anyway. Here we are seeing them even having problems on winning the Ligue 1 title much easier than this.

With the right way of management PSG can also reach some bigger successes like winning the Champions League title. Even if they lose Messi they can still create a solution to ease this situation thanks to the right calls.

I think that one explanation could be that there is too much of a good thing in one place. I know this sounds a bit odd, but when you have players like Messi who won it all, Mbappe won huge titles and Neymar did as well, you have three top stars who now have to motivate themselves to win the Ligue 1 title. How seriously do they take it? How seriously would we take it ourselves? All of them signed world record contracts and earn money so much that it is impossible to be spent ever. Then they go out and the Ligue 1 fans want to see those three give 200%. I think there is some rightful doubt that this works out. They still win it because they are gifted and can have fun playing around with their opponents. But I don't know whether we would ever see a Messi or a Neymar so much on fire as they used to be in La Liga in their clasico games against Real Madrid for example. And Mbappe might have fallen into a little hole after losing the World Cup, losing the Champions League and losing the Coup de France. If you are a superstar watching many others play for the big things and you have to finish your season winning Ligue 1, it can be hard I can imagine.

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May 09, 2023, 10:03:15 AM
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Look who returned to training with PSG today, it's true that Lionel Messi caused a scene last week because PSG did not give permission to travel to Saudi Arabia. But yesterday Messi also apologized to the club and his colleagues regarding this matter and it seems that PSG accepted Messi's apology. Finally we can see Messi training again with the PSG main squad and ready to be part of continuing the next match. Regarding the two-week suspension sanction, it seems PSG has lifted it and they don't want to make the problem even longer.

Giving a suspension to Messi is the wrong decision in my opinion, unless Messi is not a star player then giving a suspension like that is only natural. But giving a penalty like this to Messi, it feels clear that PSG no longer needs Messi in their squad because after all, a star player like Messi will find it easy to find a new club that is willing to pay for it.

So, the suspension being lifted is at least proof that PSG might still need Messi because if PSG don't need Messi then the suspension is still running and will not be revoked. Honestly, I personally don't know with Messi's return to training, should I be happy or not. Because it's useless if his presence is no longer expected in the team, then of course it would be better for Messi to leave in the next transfer market.
I think maybe PSG are also a little annoyed because Messi has been offered a contract extension, but he is still confused and considering this until in the end he doesn't want to extend his contract with PSG. Therefore PSG is quite disappointed with what Messi is doing even though he is a star player.

Lifting the suspension, of course, PSG also wants to ask Messi for help to win the Ligue 1 title this season and if PSG insists on maintaining the suspension then they will suffer losses in the remaining matches this season. Maybe Messi's presence at training was only to quell the anger of the Parisian public because we know very well that even if Messi has already apologized, PSG must also be more open-minded and not want bad speculation regarding the previous problem.

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May 09, 2023, 10:08:06 AM
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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
About Messi who has been very viral with today's news is something that needs to be seen and paid attention to because almost the whole world has read that Messi has come to Saudi Arabia for a deal so as to make PSG unhappy and punish Messi for the rest of the season. And I think Messi only made a small mistake at this time so there was no need to be given a harsh punishment because PSG in general still really need the best players like Messi, but I don't know what Messi was thinking so he was tempted to go to Saudi Arabia.

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May 09, 2023, 03:20:29 PM
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PSG were still strong before Messi's arrival here of course. But after creating this trio of Mbappe - Neymar - Messi the team have reached a more different level I think. But the main problem for this season has been the coach I'm afraid. Galtier was one of the worst options they could go with and they did it anyway. Here we are seeing them even having problems on winning the Ligue 1 title much easier than this.

With the right way of management PSG can also reach some bigger successes like winning the Champions League title. Even if they lose Messi they can still create a solution to ease this situation thanks to the right calls.

It depends on how and where you want to compare PSG, if they want to compare with teams with other French teams, they have invested much more and obviously, they have to get better results no matter if they have Messi in their teams or not, they still have a player with high performance like Mbappe, now when Messi leaves this team they still should have good performance because of other players they have.

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May 09, 2023, 03:47:28 PM
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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
Messi future is still ambiguous. His trip to Saudi Arabia might be a familial one for tourism but discussion his involvement in Saudi ambition to host World Cup and even playing there for a couple of season is probable too.
For his wealth and professional career, it would be better to continue with PSG for another season. For a historical ending in Europe, Barcelona might be the best pick but salary will be lower. For a fortune reason without professional career, Saudi Arabia will be better than the previous ones. It is up to him to pick.

Travel Messi has been appointed as Saudi Arabia's tourism ambassador since 2022. Some time ago, he visited Saudi Arabia to carry out his duties as a tourism ambassador. however, he was suspended by his club PSG, for two weeks for not returning to the club in time. as a result, he was also not allowed to train with the PSG squad and received a salary cut penalty.

Unfortunately, media coverage has twisted Messi's visit as tourism ambassador into a family trip for tourism, which can be interpreted as a vacation. I think, as a professional, Messi has to carry out his duties as a tourism ambassador. plus, he was away during his vacation time. at least, that's some of what I read as a reference for this post. with these sanctions, it will not affect Messi. after all, he will still leave PSG until his contract expires. however, currently Messi still has a contract until June 30, 2023. Regarding where he will choose the next club, we will just follow every development. but what is certain, maybe Messi will still play his match with PSG in the last 1 or 3 matches.

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May 09, 2023, 05:33:53 PM
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PSG were still strong before Messi's arrival here of course. But after creating this trio of Mbappe - Neymar - Messi the team have reached a more different level I think. But the main problem for this season has been the coach I'm afraid. Galtier was one of the worst options they could go with and they did it anyway. Here we are seeing them even having problems on winning the Ligue 1 title much easier than this.

With the right way of management PSG can also reach some bigger successes like winning the Champions League title. Even if they lose Messi they can still create a solution to ease this situation thanks to the right calls.

It depends on how and where you want to compare PSG, if they want to compare with teams with other French teams, they have invested much more and obviously, they have to get better results no matter if they have Messi in their teams or not, they still have a player with high performance like Mbappe, now when Messi leaves this team they still should have good performance because of other players they have.
There's no extra achievement that Paris Saint Germain has achieved since the arrival of Lionel Messi as a matter of fact, they were a better side in terms of club achievements  before Leo Messi's arrival at the club in 2021 because  they played in their first and only UEFA Champions League final in 2020.
Messi without doubt is a phenomenal footballer infact he's considered as the greatest man to ever grace the the beautiful round leather game but he's not been able to replicate those his magical football moments at PSG. So it'll be very honourable for him to leave the club and probably go to Saudi Arabia and get the big bag before he finally retires from football

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May 09, 2023, 05:57:45 PM
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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
About Messi who has been very viral with today's news is something that needs to be seen and paid attention to because almost the whole world has read that Messi has come to Saudi Arabia for a deal so as to make PSG unhappy and punish Messi for the rest of the season. And I think Messi only made a small mistake at this time so there was no need to be given a harsh punishment because PSG in general still really need the best players like Messi, but I don't know what Messi was thinking so he was tempted to go to Saudi Arabia.

Again about money, I think it's impossible for a star player to be willing to play in the Saudi Arabian league if he doesn't get a lot of money, so because the money he will get is of course big and then star players like Ronaldo and Messi are also willing to accept his offer. Because, playing in Europe also seems that at their age they are no longer productive, because as star players of course they will always be required to be able to play well.

So yes, because of the age factor and also his presence on the European stage is no longer the main thing, so instead of retiring but at the same time there are still teams willing to pay dearly. So of course, retirement plans can be postponed because after all, they can still earn a lot of money from their football career at this moment.

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May 09, 2023, 06:15:10 PM
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https://www.transfermarkt.com/neymar/geruechte/spieler/68290

Neymar's name has been called with some other European teams recently as you must have heard already. I have checked Transfermarkt because of being curious about the most recent rumour and I have found this information in the image above. Manchester United seem to be the latest team interested in signing him recently. The date isn't very old also therefore I wonder if we would see any move from their side this summer.

Neymar has been another rumoured player at PSG very much to leave just as Messi. However there is an important point here also. Neymar still has a contract which lasts until the summer of 2025. The reason why I say this is that I don't think any European team would be willing to spend a lot of money for his transfer fee only - his current market value is 70 million euros.

It depends on how much PSG will demand for a 31-year-old player of course.

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May 09, 2023, 08:26:24 PM
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The team Messi is in talks with is Al-Hilal, noıt Ittihad, that would have been a bit different. Ittihad is already above Al-Nasr right now, and getting Messi on top of that would have made them so much better as well and it would have been an amazing competition. Now Messi would be required to be in the team that is 4th, and 8 points behind Al-Nasr and take them to the top, that is possible but not that easy.

Basically what it asks is the question of; would Messi won 3 games they lost all by him being there? And I feel like that's a no, because a single player doesn't make that much difference as we have seen with Ronaldo as well. I think it would have been better if he was at Ittihad so he could start at a good ground from the start at least.

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May 09, 2023, 10:53:36 PM
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The team Messi is in talks with is Al-Hilal, noıt Ittihad, that would have been a bit different. Ittihad is already above Al-Nasr right now, and getting Messi on top of that would have made them so much better as well and it would have been an amazing competition. Now Messi would be required to be in the team that is 4th, and 8 points behind Al-Nasr and take them to the top, that is possible but not that easy.

Basically what it asks is the question of; would Messi won 3 games they lost all by him being there? And I feel like that's a no, because a single player doesn't make that much difference as we have seen with Ronaldo as well. I think it would have been better if he was at Ittihad so he could start at a good ground from the start at least.

Saudi Arabia teams have like an unlimited amount of money really and they want to build a squad full of great European players. After signing a legend like Ronaldo they are aiming the same by signing another legend like Messi. But as I said before Messi doesn't seem to have any intention to leave Europe for now. Because he is aiming to reunite with his old team Barcelona again.

But after one more season passes I think he can seriously think of choosing a lot of money instead of continuing to play here. Because the probable amount he would be offered then would be an enormous one. I have heard that he already got an offer a month ago actually and that offer included a salary like an amount more than €400m per year.  Grin

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No matter the kind of improvement that the trio Neymar, Mbappe and Messi brought to the PSG team. No matter the excitement and no matter the entertainment, I think they only have one duty to perform and which is the reason why PSG has spent so much money and that is to get the Champions League trophy but this trio as a team and individual at a point have failed to accomplish the reason they were signed. Do we push the whole blames to the coaching? Absolutely no, PSG doesn’t hire amateur coaches, they have been having atleast good coaches which is enough to propel an expensive squad like they of PSG.

This trio was failed to gave PSG UCL trophy. i do know that if many people have been putting their hopes to see PSG to get UCL trophy this season but it's failed again. I don't even know how to count how many times PSG failed to get UCL. So much money has been spent to buy the stars players but the result is still zero. Messi can give only league 1 as a trophy. There's no something special about this trophy caused by its only a trophy in the farmer league. I could not consider league 1 as prestigious trophy for PSG.

PSG director has intention to sign a good coach to do overhaul to the club. This is a big project that can be given to the right person. PSG consider mourinho as the one who is having capability to make it happen.

Mourinho has ever won UCL three times with three different clubs. It proves his capability to handle the big club.

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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
About Messi who has been very viral with today's news is something that needs to be seen and paid attention to because almost the whole world has read that Messi has come to Saudi Arabia for a deal so as to make PSG unhappy and punish Messi for the rest of the season. And I think Messi only made a small mistake at this time so there was no need to be given a harsh punishment because PSG in general still really need the best players like Messi, but I don't know what Messi was thinking so he was tempted to go to Saudi Arabia.

Again about money, I think it's impossible for a star player to be willing to play in the Saudi Arabian league if he doesn't get a lot of money, so because the money he will get is of course big and then star players like Ronaldo and Messi are also willing to accept his offer. Because, playing in Europe also seems that at their age they are no longer productive, because as star players of course they will always be required to be able to play well.

So yes, because of the age factor and also his presence on the European stage is no longer the main thing, so instead of retiring but at the same time there are still teams willing to pay dearly. So of course, retirement plans can be postponed because after all, they can still earn a lot of money from their football career at this moment.
Yes, it's true that in fact Messi's arrival really didn't have any development at the Paris Saint-Germain club which Messi has been doing all this time in vain and I am more concerned with Mbappe who is giving a good performance for Paris Saint-Germain.
So if messi wants to leave Paris Saint-Germain just because of a big salary offer and is not approved, it is not a problem that makes Paris Saint-Germain lose but it would be better if Paris Saint-Germain is more concerned with Mbappe's salary which is really able to bring PSG to multiple wins in each match

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May 10, 2023, 08:29:16 AM
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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
About Messi who has been very viral with today's news is something that needs to be seen and paid attention to because almost the whole world has read that Messi has come to Saudi Arabia for a deal so as to make PSG unhappy and punish Messi for the rest of the season. And I think Messi only made a small mistake at this time so there was no need to be given a harsh punishment because PSG in general still really need the best players like Messi, but I don't know what Messi was thinking so he was tempted to go to Saudi Arabia.

talking about Messi, Still, none knows about his next destination for the next season and during this time until the end of this season everything is possible because Messi can go back to Barcelona where he started playing as a professional career and get retired as a legend or he can choose money and got to Suaid League to race with Ronaldo and earn money, but still, we are sure that Messi will not stay in PSG and they have to find another player to replace with him.

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May 10, 2023, 08:50:32 AM
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Actually I don't think this has any impact on his future at PSG because regardless of his condition going back to training and apologizing beforehand it won't be any guarantee for next season in fact I'm still pretty sure he will leave in fact.
He is training because indeed it is his obligation now considering he still has the rest of his contract for PSG.
About Messi who has been very viral with today's news is something that needs to be seen and paid attention to because almost the whole world has read that Messi has come to Saudi Arabia for a deal so as to make PSG unhappy and punish Messi for the rest of the season. And I think Messi only made a small mistake at this time so there was no need to be given a harsh punishment because PSG in general still really need the best players like Messi, but I don't know what Messi was thinking so he was tempted to go to Saudi Arabia.

talking about Messi, Still, none knows about his next destination for the next season and during this time until the end of this season everything is possible because Messi can go back to Barcelona where he started playing as a professional career and get retired as a legend or he can choose money and got to Suaid League to race with Ronaldo and earn money, but still, we are sure that Messi will not stay in PSG and they have to find another player to replace with him.
yes, it is almost certain that Messi will not stay at PSG, but instead it is an advantage for PSG to be able to find a replacement for Messi.
I see that there is no big contribution from Messi to PSG, apart from Messi's good performance but for a player like Messi he should be able to make a big contribution to the PSG team, especially in the European league.

now rumors about Messi's club for next season are still confusing, there is news saying that he is going to Saudi Arabia with a very high fee but there are also rumors saying that he will return to Barcelona.
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talking about Messi, Still, none knows about his next destination for the next season and during this time until the end of this season everything is possible because Messi can go back to Barcelona where he started playing as a professional career and get retired as a legend or he can choose money and got to Suaid League to race with Ronaldo and earn money, but still, we are sure that Messi will not stay in PSG and they have to find another player to replace with him.
Now when talking about Messi there is news that at this time he does not want to be associated with the Arab league first and that was said by Messi's father who did say that there had not been any decision regarding Messi and the Arab league.
On the other hand, at this time Messi is also said to have had his sentence cut because previously he was not allowed to play because of his mistake but now it seems that it has been lightened and he can immediately return to playing even though regarding another penalty he has to pay 1.6 million euros but still exists but 2 week ban seems to have been lifted now.

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