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May 22, 2023, 11:30:04 PM
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Even though PSG has so many great players, it's only the best performance in Ligue 1 that matters. PSG could not reach the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Lionel Messi, Mbappé, Neymar, Hakimi Ramos are all expensive players but can't do well in the Champions League, how do you see it?

When I look at the numbers paid for the testimonial fees of these football players, I consider the issue as a real failure. The testimonial fees they paid for Mbappe and Neymar are still at record levels. Despite this, the fact that they could not achieve success in the champions league must be an annoying issue for them. I think one of the most important reasons for this is that they are not working with the right coach yet. Even if they find the right coach to achieve this, they should give him at least 2-3 years. Even if a good coach starts working at PSG, I think he needs time to turn the team into a team that can win the champions league.
Not even zidane can manage such a huge ego in psg all star team.

Uniting the star players at a team never easy , instead to have the full power to get a maximall result ... they flopped on the field due each ego . That's the hard part , give pep guardiola the job ... he might handled it better , that's the problem in psg.

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May 22, 2023, 11:42:11 PM
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Even though PSG has so many great players, it's only the best performance in Ligue 1 that matters. PSG could not reach the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Lionel Messi, Mbappé, Neymar, Hakimi Ramos are all expensive players but can't do well in the Champions League, how do you see it?

When I look at the numbers paid for the testimonial fees of these football players, I consider the issue as a real failure. The testimonial fees they paid for Mbappe and Neymar are still at record levels. Despite this, the fact that they could not achieve success in the champions league must be an annoying issue for them. I think one of the most important reasons for this is that they are not working with the right coach yet. Even if they find the right coach to achieve this, they should give him at least 2-3 years. Even if a good coach starts working at PSG, I think he needs time to turn the team into a team that can win the champions league.
When doing something total with the players, of course we also have to think about the same thing with the coach they have.
At the moment the PSG squad is very luxurious and indeed that is proven by the presence of star players in almost every line of theirs, but things like that are still lacking with an ordinary coach so that their potential is not too different from that of ordinary players.
Previously, Galtier and Poche were actually quite good coaches, but that still can't work for PSG because you could say the capacity is different, so something more is needed so they can maximize their players with a coach who is better in terms of mentality and quality.

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May 23, 2023, 12:32:51 AM
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Even though PSG has so many great players, it's only the best performance in Ligue 1 that matters. PSG could not reach the quarter-finals of the Champions League. Lionel Messi, Mbappé, Neymar, Hakimi Ramos are all expensive players but can't do well in the Champions League, how do you see it?

When I look at the numbers paid for the testimonial fees of these football players, I consider the issue as a real failure. The testimonial fees they paid for Mbappe and Neymar are still at record levels. Despite this, the fact that they could not achieve success in the champions league must be an annoying issue for them. I think one of the most important reasons for this is that they are not working with the right coach yet. Even if they find the right coach to achieve this, they should give him at least 2-3 years. Even if a good coach starts working at PSG, I think he needs time to turn the team into a team that can win the champions league.
When doing something total with the players, of course we also have to think about the same thing with the coach they have.
At the moment the PSG squad is very luxurious and indeed that is proven by the presence of star players in almost every line of theirs, but things like that are still lacking with an ordinary coach so that their potential is not too different from that of ordinary players.
Previously, Galtier and Poche were actually quite good coaches, but that still can't work for PSG because you could say the capacity is different, so something more is needed so they can maximize their players with a coach who is better in terms of mentality and quality.

That's very true because the problem with pag is clearly not with the players but the coach and stuff, i believe zidane will be the perfect coach for such clubs and if they manage to bring him next summer the club will surely have a big season

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May 23, 2023, 05:29:51 AM
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When I look at the numbers paid for the testimonial fees of these football players, I consider the issue as a real failure. The testimonial fees they paid for Mbappe and Neymar are still at record levels. Despite this, the fact that they could not achieve success in the champions league must be an annoying issue for them. I think one of the most important reasons for this is that they are not working with the right coach yet. Even if they find the right coach to achieve this, they should give him at least 2-3 years. Even if a good coach starts working at PSG, I think he needs time to turn the team into a team that can win the champions league.
I don't think Christophe Galtier has had a good change for PSG and PSG's failure in the champions league yesterday was the benchmark. from this problem I read from several sources that there will be several new coach candidates who will replace Galtier, namely Mourinho and Zidane.
these two prospective trainers have experience and high profitability in bringing their teams to success in winning titles and achieving their goals. I would agree more if later PSG recruits a new coach like Mourinho who can make PSG stronger and certainly win the Champions League trophy.

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May 23, 2023, 07:52:17 AM
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Troyes, Ajaccio and Angers are 3 of the 4 clubs that have confirmed they will no longer be in Ligue 1 next season, one place remaining for next season's relegation. Nantes and Auxerre will compete over who will be safe and stay in Ligue 1 next season. 2 matches remaining and they only have 1 point difference with Auxerre collecting 34 points and Nantes collecting 33. The competition from these two clubs will be very interesting for us to see. Of the 2 opponents they will still face, Nantes can be said to be easier, because they will face Angers in their last game. Who do you think will survive?
It should be Nantes who will stay in League 1, the most difficult opponent for them will be against Lille. And against Angers is the biggest chance for Nantes to stay in league 1. Meanwhile, Auxerre is possibility not get any points because they will against Toulouse and also Lens in their remaining matches. On paper, also Toulouse is better rather than Auxerre. Even, last time when the both meet Toulouse got a very comfortable winning with a big score vs Auxerre.
The problem in this case is for clubs that are either in the relegation zone or close to that position, all of whom have had similarly inconsistent performances towards the end of the season.
In their last 5 matches starting from Auxerre, Nantis Troyes and Ajaccio they suffered the same fate with 3 losses and 2 draws.
So in this case it is also possible to be difficult to predict now.

The last 2 matches are important for all because it is very possible for them to get out of the uncomfortable path and stay in Ligue 1 for next season.

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May 23, 2023, 11:23:42 AM
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When I look at the numbers paid for the testimonial fees of these football players, I consider the issue as a real failure. The testimonial fees they paid for Mbappe and Neymar are still at record levels. Despite this, the fact that they could not achieve success in the champions league must be an annoying issue for them. I think one of the most important reasons for this is that they are not working with the right coach yet. Even if they find the right coach to achieve this, they should give him at least 2-3 years. Even if a good coach starts working at PSG, I think he needs time to turn the team into a team that can win the champions league.
I don't think Christophe Galtier has had a good change for PSG and PSG's failure in the champions league yesterday was the benchmark. from this problem I read from several sources that there will be several new coach candidates who will replace Galtier, namely Mourinho and Zidane.
these two prospective trainers have experience and high profitability in bringing their teams to success in winning titles and achieving their goals. I would agree more if later PSG recruits a new coach like Mourinho who can make PSG stronger and certainly win the Champions League trophy.

The Champions League will always be a benchmark for them or for any coach they hire, but when even Manchester City takes so long despite being frequently challenged during the whole season in the best league in the world, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes another ten years for PSG to finally win the trophy in the Champions League, if even then. I think being the coach for PSG is great because you earn a lot of money and you are the coach of some great names, but you know that as soon as you get eliminated from the Champions League, the season is almost over. The Ligue 1 title isn't that valuable and even the Coup de France isn't.

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May 23, 2023, 11:55:50 AM
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Not even zidane can manage such a huge ego in psg all star team.

Uniting the star players at a team never easy , instead to have the full power to get a maximall result ... they flopped on the field due each ego . That's the hard part , give pep guardiola the job ... he might handled it better , that's the problem in psg.
Pep Guardiola have extended his contract to 2025 but I will not doubt that he might walk away once Manchester City win EPL (done) and Champions League title (soon) this season. That way he will be able to join PSG and fix the team after getting ride from some annoying players and make the others more disciplined.
Zidane is also a good coach but I agree that the best fixture will be done by Guardiola for PSG. There is Klopp that might help PSG in my opinion but he comes after the previous two.

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May 23, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
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Not even zidane can manage such a huge ego in psg all star team.

Uniting the star players at a team never easy , instead to have the full power to get a maximall result ... they flopped on the field due each ego . That's the hard part , give pep guardiola the job ... he might handled it better , that's the problem in psg.
Pep Guardiola have extended his contract to 2025 but I will not doubt that he might walk away once Manchester City win EPL (done) and Champions League title (soon) this season. That way he will be able to join PSG and fix the team after getting ride from some annoying players and make the others more disciplined.
Zidane is also a good coach but I agree that the best fixture will be done by Guardiola for PSG. There is Klopp that might help PSG in my opinion but he comes after the previous two.

Guardiola has been targeting to complete the missing piece of the puzzle for Manchester City for years. It is a Champions League title of course but it looks like they are very likely to make the dream come true this season. After adding this achievement to his collection with this team also I wonder what his future plans would be.

Indeed he still has 2 more years on the existing contract but after achieving the main target maybe he might even want to look for new adventures. I mean he would stay for one more season in my opinion but after that we might see him leaving maybe. I don't have such expectation like he decides to be open for an offer from PSG side this summer after achieving the Champions League title.

I still think Zidane is the best name for the position at PSG now also.

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 #13869

Not even zidane can manage such a huge ego in psg all star team.

Uniting the star players at a team never easy , instead to have the full power to get a maximall result ... they flopped on the field due each ego . That's the hard part , give pep guardiola the job ... he might handled it better , that's the problem in psg.
Pep Guardiola have extended his contract to 2025 but I will not doubt that he might walk away once Manchester City win EPL (done) and Champions League title (soon) this season. That way he will be able to join PSG and fix the team after getting ride from some annoying players and make the others more disciplined.
Zidane is also a good coach but I agree that the best fixture will be done by Guardiola for PSG. There is Klopp that might help PSG in my opinion but he comes after the previous two.

Guardiola has been targeting to complete the missing piece of the puzzle for Manchester City for years. It is a Champions League title of course but it looks like they are very likely to make the dream come true this season. After adding this achievement to his collection with this team also I wonder what his future plans would be.

Indeed he still has 2 more years on the existing contract but after achieving the main target maybe he might even want to look for new adventures. I mean he would stay for one more season in my opinion but after that we might see him leaving maybe. I don't have such expectation like he decides to be open for an offer from PSG side this summer after achieving the Champions League title.

I still think Zidane is the best name for the position at PSG now also.

We have all seen that at some point we have imagined PSG in the hands of the great zizu , Although it would be something great , I think the sheikh must have been very aware of him in the days when PSG were all at their best , I think that even They can drag Zidane to PSG , they have to Comply with the players that he demands and obviously with the salary , this is something that cannot be denied , in Madrid they had him thanks to the fact that they pleased him with everything , and thanks to that he won the League and UCL , not bad for a Player/Technician like him.

Sir Alex Ferguson left Steven Gerrard 'hurt' after controversial Liverpool claim Zinedine Zidane slammed

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In truth, United haven’t really recovered since Ferguson’s exit. Getting through eight managers over the past 10 years, if we include caretakers and interims, Erik ten Hag’s League Cup win in February was only their fourth trophy since the Scot’s retirement and first since 2017. Meanwhile, they have failed to add to their record of 20 league titles and three European Cups over the past decade.

Source: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sir-alex-ferguson-left-steven-26870814

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May 23, 2023, 03:27:03 PM
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Having an unbalanced team is the reason for PSG to get bad results, in fact, PSG had good forwards and they had the most expensive players in their team like Neymar, Mbappe, and Messi while in PSG, they need a better coach They had to hire better defender and midfielders I think that's what they are going to do for the next season otherwise they won't have better performance.
PSG management should have been able to consider this before the competition starts next season and they should also look for a coach who has so much experience in Europe. We know Neymar and Messi are likely to leave PSG in the summer and only Mbappe is left as a star player in the PSG squad.

Maybe PSG after the departure of the two players will aim for some other star targets and I think they should do that to make it easier to achieve maximum results in Ligue 1 and especially for the champions league competition. PSG's current situation is still not conducive regarding the problem a few weeks ago and they must refocus on fixing every hole in PSG's body.

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May 23, 2023, 04:14:49 PM
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I don't think Christophe Galtier has had a good change for PSG and PSG's failure in the champions league yesterday was the benchmark. from this problem I read from several sources that there will be several new coach candidates who will replace Galtier, namely Mourinho and Zidane.
PSG has intention to sack him after this season will be ended. Winning league 1 is not even enough for PSG caused by PSG has spent so much money to with higher level of competition. Galtier is actually useless for PSG right now.
PSG has been linked to the several names but none of these names have got confirmation. I remember what already said by mourinho if PSG has not even contacted him before.

That means if almost all of rumors that were speading in the various media are fake news. PSG is not yet even making a movement to sign mourinho from as roma.
Look at how roma was able going to the final even with low valuation squads.

these two prospective trainers have experience and high profitability in bringing their teams to success in winning titles and achieving their goals. I would agree more if later PSG recruits a new coach like Mourinho who can make PSG stronger and certainly win the Champions League trophy.
Me too. Let's see what kind of decision that will be taking by the management. It's not good to trust galtier for another season. it's enough for him to be a coach for PSG.
PSG will be stuck at the same place under him.

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May 23, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
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The problem in this case is for clubs that are either in the relegation zone or close to that position, all of whom have had similarly inconsistent performances towards the end of the season.
In their last 5 matches starting from Auxerre, Nantis Troyes and Ajaccio they suffered the same fate with 3 losses and 2 draws.
So in this case it is also possible to be difficult to predict now.

The last 2 matches are important for all because it is very possible for them to get out of the uncomfortable path and stay in Ligue 1 for next season.
When you are at the very bottom, it is not going to be easy to make predictions on what will happen, some of them may get wins, some of them may get just losses, some of them can do draws. I think it is very important to see that the teams that go down at this point shouldn't be sad that they did went down, because that will allow them to come back stronger, being able to climb back to this league means a lot of money and they should be able to do that.

It is not going to be easy, it is going to take a while for teams to reach to that point, but at the end of the day we have to see how they will do before they can stay. If they manage to stay, they will be just another bad team who will relegate next season instead of this season, nothing more.

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May 23, 2023, 04:36:08 PM
 #13873

Not even zidane can manage such a huge ego in psg all star team.

Uniting the star players at a team never easy , instead to have the full power to get a maximall result ... they flopped on the field due each ego . That's the hard part , give pep guardiola the job ... he might handled it better , that's the problem in psg.
Pep Guardiola have extended his contract to 2025 but I will not doubt that he might walk away once Manchester City win EPL (done) and Champions League title (soon) this season. That way he will be able to join PSG and fix the team after getting ride from some annoying players and make the others more disciplined.
Zidane is also a good coach but I agree that the best fixture will be done by Guardiola for PSG. There is Klopp that might help PSG in my opinion but he comes after the previous two.

Guardiola has been targeting to complete the missing piece of the puzzle for Manchester City for years. It is a Champions League title of course but it looks like they are very likely to make the dream come true this season. After adding this achievement to his collection with this team also I wonder what his future plans would be.

Indeed he still has 2 more years on the existing contract but after achieving the main target maybe he might even want to look for new adventures. I mean he would stay for one more season in my opinion but after that we might see him leaving maybe. I don't have such expectation like he decides to be open for an offer from PSG side this summer after achieving the Champions League title.

I still think Zidane is the best name for the position at PSG now also.

If it's just about combining star players then Zidane can do that too because Zidane has the experience of succeeding at Real Madrid. If you notice, Real Madrid is a team full of star players, but Zidane at that time also managed to give Real Madrid a lot of titles when Zidane was coach.

So yes, in this case a certain coach has good experience of being a coach in a big team with many star players. But one of the problems too, at least PSG is not so easy to get a coach who has good experience to overcome the problems the team is experiencing. That way, it will still be difficult for PSG to unite the star players they have in their squad.

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May 23, 2023, 06:47:06 PM
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When doing something total with the players, of course we also have to think about the same thing with the coach they have.
At the moment the PSG squad is very luxurious and indeed that is proven by the presence of star players in almost every line of theirs, but things like that are still lacking with an ordinary coach so that their potential is not too different from that of ordinary players.
Previously, Galtier and Poche were actually quite good coaches, but that still can't work for PSG because you could say the capacity is different, so something more is needed so they can maximize their players with a coach who is better in terms of mentality and quality.

That's very true because the problem with pag is clearly not with the players but the coach and stuff, i believe zidane will be the perfect coach for such clubs and if they manage to bring him next summer the club will surely have a big season
Does Zidane want to go to PSG? I'm still not sure about that because I still feel that Zidane's priority is still something he's comfortable with. At PSG it is not a comfortable place especially if you look at the condition of the players who actually have more strength than the coach.
But indeed something like this still needs to be looked at further because all possibilities can still happen even though I still have doubts about it.

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May 23, 2023, 06:53:40 PM
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Not even zidane can manage such a huge ego in psg all star team.

Uniting the star players at a team never easy , instead to have the full power to get a maximall result ... they flopped on the field due each ego . That's the hard part , give pep guardiola the job ... he might handled it better , that's the problem in psg.
Pep Guardiola have extended his contract to 2025 but I will not doubt that he might walk away once Manchester City win EPL (done) and Champions League title (soon) this season. That way he will be able to join PSG and fix the team after getting ride from some annoying players and make the others more disciplined.
Zidane is also a good coach but I agree that the best fixture will be done by Guardiola for PSG. There is Klopp that might help PSG in my opinion but he comes after the previous two.

Guardiola has been targeting to complete the missing piece of the puzzle for Manchester City for years. It is a Champions League title of course but it looks like they are very likely to make the dream come true this season. After adding this achievement to his collection with this team also I wonder what his future plans would be.

Indeed he still has 2 more years on the existing contract but after achieving the main target maybe he might even want to look for new adventures. I mean he would stay for one more season in my opinion but after that we might see him leaving maybe. I don't have such expectation like he decides to be open for an offer from PSG side this summer after achieving the Champions League title.

I still think Zidane is the best name for the position at PSG now also.

If it's just about combining star players then Zidane can do that too because Zidane has the experience of succeeding at Real Madrid. If you notice, Real Madrid is a team full of star players, but Zidane at that time also managed to give Real Madrid a lot of titles when Zidane was coach.

So yes, in this case a certain coach has good experience of being a coach in a big team with many star players. But one of the problems too, at least PSG is not so easy to get a coach who has good experience to overcome the problems the team is experiencing. That way, it will still be difficult for PSG to unite the star players they have in their squad.

If PSG continues with their current players, Zidane could be the new manager. What if PSG's stars don't stay with the team during the transfer season? It may be too early to talk for now. He will closely follow the transfers that will take place at the end of the season. PSG needs a big name as coach. And as you said, Zidane could be one of them.

I think Zidane can overcome these challenges. He worked with star football players before and did what was necessary.

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May 23, 2023, 07:28:28 PM
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I don't think Christophe Galtier has had a good change for PSG and PSG's failure in the champions league yesterday was the benchmark. from this problem I read from several sources that there will be several new coach candidates who will replace Galtier, namely Mourinho and Zidane.
these two prospective trainers have experience and high profitability in bringing their teams to success in winning titles and achieving their goals. I would agree more if later PSG recruits a new coach like Mourinho who can make PSG stronger and certainly win the Champions League trophy.

I think the opposite with what you say, at least Christophe Galtier brought Lille to a trophy in the 20/21 season if I'm not mistaken.  well, his failure with PSG in the Champions League cannot be separated from how much privilege he has with PSG. I mean, he doesn't have full control in the locker room and at the same time he doesn't have full rights over the players he wants to bring in as a team need. when talking about the front line that PSG has, no one doubts it. but for the other players, especially the midfield players, it is not what the team needs. that's why, PSG was eliminated in the Champions League. after all, at that time several PSG players were injured, including Neymar. but because he failed, it can be said that his career with PSG will end until this season.

Speaking of potential new coaches who are predicted to replace Galtier, at least these two coaches have big names and have proven to have brought their former team to win the Champions League trophy, be it Mourinho or Zidane. but to bring in one of these two coaches, there will be quite tough negotiations, both Mourinho and Zidane certainly have conditions that must be met by PSG management. I mean, these two coaches want the right to sign some names. or, they ask for certain conditions. if not, it seems that these two coaches are not willing to become PSG's new coaches.

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May 23, 2023, 09:40:43 PM
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If PSG continues with their current players, Zidane could be the new manager. What if PSG's stars don't stay with the team during the transfer season? It may be too early to talk for now. He will closely follow the transfers that will take place at the end of the season. PSG needs a big name as coach. And as you said, Zidane could be one of them.

I think Zidane can overcome these challenges. He worked with star football players before and did what was necessary.
Actually, for Zidane's current problem, I still don't know whether this will actually happen or not because seeing from his condition, I think Zidane is not too interested in being at PSG because if he was interested, he had done that from the start and even a few seasons before he has been continuously offered by PSG but it still doesn't happen.

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There are still news around which are linking Neymar with Manchester United. However as far as I have heard these rumours have been refuted once again. I haven't heard about Erik ten Hag to say something positive about Neymar's future either. I don't even think that Manchester United's priority will be a player like Neymar right now. They must be targeting a top striker first.

Therefore Neymar will need to look for other big teams for a possible offer in the summer. Honestly his job wouldn't be easy at all if he waits for a very expensive contract. Because I started feeling like Neymar isn't worth paying a great sum of money now due to getting injured very often. This season also hasn't gone well for him.

But clearly there are really some serious problems between Neymar and the team now.

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May 24, 2023, 06:47:41 AM
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There are still news around which are linking Neymar with Manchester United. However as far as I have heard these rumours have been refuted once again. I haven't heard about Erik ten Hag to say something positive about Neymar's future either. I don't even think that Manchester United's priority will be a player like Neymar right now. They must be targeting a top striker first.

Therefore Neymar will need to look for other big teams for a possible offer in the summer. Honestly his job wouldn't be easy at all if he waits for a very expensive contract. Because I started feeling like Neymar isn't worth paying a great sum of money now due to getting injured very often. This season also hasn't gone well for him.

But clearly there are really some serious problems between Neymar and the team now.
Neymar has contract with PSG until 2025 and this is long duration contract but currently Neymar had bad relationship with PSG fans and they even pushed Neymar to leave PSG this summer this because Neymar has been failed to live up to the expectations of the fans and previously PSG management's hope when they bought Neymar was that they wanted Neymar to help the team to gets champion league trophy but in fact Neymar unable to live up to their expectations and he has injured prone and never played as well as he did at Barcelona
For forward lines so far only Mbappe who can give significant contribution for PSG for each seasons and i think if Manchester United really want him it's time for Neymar to considers that offers and playing outsides France because it's not good for him to stayed at PSG especially the fans have no respect anymore to him

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May 24, 2023, 12:13:20 PM
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Neymar has contract with PSG until 2025 and this is long duration contract but currently Neymar had bad relationship with PSG fans and they even pushed Neymar to leave PSG this summer this because Neymar has been failed to live up to the expectations of the fans and previously PSG management's hope when they bought Neymar was that they wanted Neymar to help the team to gets champion league trophy but in fact Neymar unable to live up to their expectations and he has injured prone and never played as well as he did at Barcelona
For forward lines so far only Mbappe who can give significant contribution for PSG for each seasons and i think if Manchester United really want him it's time for Neymar to considers that offers and playing outsides France because it's not good for him to stayed at PSG especially the fans have no respect anymore to him

Is it 2025? I found a few sources that sometimes state otherwise, like this one

"According to MARCA, Neymar triggered an automatic contract extension present in his clause to extend his tenure until 2027."

But when I look elsewhere your date seems to be right. Do you have a reliable source for that or are they all speculating? I tend to think that your date is more likely to be right because Neymar is more the kind of guy who values options for his future career. He probably wouldn't have agreed to a contract that forces him to stay with PSG for so long.

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