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October 27, 2023, 04:02:35 PM
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talking about poor performance in domestic competitions actually for now, I think Lens is still a little better than seeing what happened with Lyon because they are the club that is the worst in the decline in performance if we do a comparison of this season with last season.
I do not understand what causes Lyon to be this bad, but it's definitely not something they should be proud of, it looks like they are doing quite terribly all year long and I am not really expecting them to do any better. Of course they could get a little better on the rankings a bit, but I think it's not really that easy to handle.

I think it would be smarter if they ended up with something that should be a little bit fixing what's going wrong inside the club. Is it the ownership? Is it the management? The football director? The operations? The staff and the managers? Whatever is the thing that makes them this bad, they need to fix that first because they can't make the team better without figuring out what's wrong first.
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October 27, 2023, 04:11:02 PM
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Clermont no had a chance in that match to get points, because Nice were unstoppable at the moment. Actually, if you look at the head to head record in the last 3 matches, Clermont is a great opponent for Nice, but this season Clermont performance is doubtful and cannot give me the confidence to choose them in that match. On the other side, Nice must be able to get full points to stay on the title race, so Nice chances of winning that match are very high compared to drawing or losing, although sometimes football is full of surprises but I'm doubt with Clermont.
If you look at the position of the two teams in the standings, it is true that Clermont did not have a chance to get even one point in this match, but Clermont managed to steal 1 point when facing PSG and which was quite surprising because of course no one predicted that PSG would not be able to score a single goal in this match, so Nice have to be careful because a weak team like Clermont is always motivated to make a surprise when facing a strong team like Nice, and interestingly in their 4 meetings Clermont managed to win 3 times in a row and also when looking at the odds for the home team @ 4.30 and Nice @ 1.91 looks like there will still be resistance from Clermont to be able to take points, and if Nice gets a bad result then PSG will really like that

The recent game Clermont had against Lyon and they won the game is not a good reason to say Clermont has a good performance or they are in the good form yet, I think Clermont got no chance against Nice and they only won the gem against Lyon while Lyon is on the crisis and I think the rate in the game between Clermont and Nice is good enough if we bet on Nice.


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October 27, 2023, 04:35:11 PM
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Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.

It is logical to assume that the team in second place from the top will win against the team in second place from the bottom  Grin However, I am not surprised that the odds for Nice to win are almost 2 (1.95), apparently the bookmakers take into account that Clermont does not concede many goals as an outsider, and Nice has certain problems with performance. The danger that the game will end with the score close or equal to 0-0 is great.

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October 27, 2023, 04:49:57 PM
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Ok I guess we have a basis here that we both agree on, but just see that we have had some abnormalities recently when it came to teams that played weak in their domestic league while making big steps in international competitions. Sevilla did do the exact same thing last year when they had big problems in La Liga but won the title in the Europa League. West Ham won the Europa Conference League and finished 14. in the Premier League.

I think that Lens is having a bad time, but not that they can't get out of that and play strong again. The results are against them and other teams have experienced that as well.

Yeah it is worrying to see Lens being near the relegation zone truthfully. They were amazing last season and stayed in the Ligue 1 title competition for a very long time. PSG were even able to finish only one point ahead of Lens which proves my point. But this huge change is pretty awkward to me.  Huh

Their situation is so similar to Sevilla now, completely true. You know how strong Sevilla were in the La Liga until the 2021/22 season. They have nearly always been a part of top 4 at the end of a season. But now they are lost and trying to find themselves again.

I hope both of Lens and Sevilla can make good progress in their domestic leagues.
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October 27, 2023, 04:51:19 PM
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Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.
France League is changing, watching other competitive teams fighting to remain in good spots on Ligue One table is such an amazing action pulled by these teams. Nice is unbeaten, this stats giving them edge over Clermont tonight. I'm definitely going to place wager on Nice to bear Clermont, but observing the odds, I was kind of discouraged it was too small, I'm scouting for a good game with high odds that will double my earnings in the system. However, Hopefully Paris Saint-Germain will bounce back to reclaimed their position as Ligue One giants which they've always been.

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October 27, 2023, 06:08:03 PM
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Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.
France League is changing, watching other competitive teams fighting to remain in good spots on Ligue One table is such an amazing action pulled by these teams. Nice is unbeaten, this stats giving them edge over Clermont tonight. I'm definitely going to place wager on Nice to bear Clermont, but observing the odds, I was kind of discouraged it was too small, I'm scouting for a good game with high odds that will double my earnings in the system. However, Hopefully Paris Saint-Germain will bounce back to reclaimed their position as Ligue One giants which they've always been.
I want to correct your words it's not changing it is facing lack of funds and quality which is needed to be stood at the top with mostly clubs are having no enough players which can give them good quality game and things are going from bad to worse for them as well which is never been ideal for the soccer into this country many big clubs are also having not fair and good results in European competitions which are also the biggest concern alone PSG is giving all good for the years and others are having never been consistency.

Nice is surely doing good in this season and most chances we will have good race for the title from them with Monaco is also impressive now tonight Clermont is hosting Nice which is important game for them if they want to keep hopes alive then surely they need to win this match in case of result other than win they can slip from their current spot.

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October 27, 2023, 06:18:58 PM
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I want to correct your words it's not changing it is facing lack of funds and quality which is needed to be stood at the top with mostly clubs are having no enough players which can give them good quality game and things are going from bad to worse for them as well which is never been ideal for the soccer into this country many big clubs are also having not fair and good results in European competitions which are also the biggest concern alone PSG is giving all good for the years and others are having never been consistency.

Nice is surely doing good in this season and most chances we will have good race for the title from them with Monaco is also impressive now tonight Clermont is hosting Nice which is important game for them if they want to keep hopes alive then surely they need to win this match in case of result other than win they can slip from their current spot.
Well you're right, not many clubs in the French League are financially capable of getting top quality players that would come into their club and make a difference for them, there are only few clubs that are capable of doing that and that's why the competition in the league is amongst those few and even the clubs that work hard and try to get to the top end up not being consistent thre following season due to same financial issues with many clubs in the league.

 This season Nice has turned out to be one of the best performing team in the Ligue one and they're really seriously challenging for the trophy and I think they have to be very consistent if they need make that happen cause Monaco are also in a good shape and together with PSG they'll give Nice a tough time to win the league this season
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October 27, 2023, 06:23:39 PM
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Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.
France League is changing, watching other competitive teams fighting to remain in good spots on Ligue One table is such an amazing action pulled by these teams. Nice is unbeaten, this stats giving them edge over Clermont tonight. I'm definitely going to place wager on Nice to bear Clermont, but observing the odds, I was kind of discouraged it was too small, I'm scouting for a good game with high odds that will double my earnings in the system. However, Hopefully Paris Saint-Germain will bounce back to reclaimed their position as Ligue One giants which they've always been.
Nice is indeed the only club that has not been beaten this season from the 9 matches they have played, and with the opponents they will face this time it looks like they will be able to continue that positive trend. But on the other hand I am quite worried about them, because they are also one of the clubs that have not too good goal productivity. Only being able to create 10 goals from 9 matches in my opinion is a problem. Although they are also the club with the best defense so far, but if they cannot be more productive in scoring goals it will make them difficult in the future. I hope they realize their shortcomings in this regard.

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October 27, 2023, 06:30:19 PM
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Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.
France League is changing, watching other competitive teams fighting to remain in good spots on Ligue One table is such an amazing action pulled by these teams. Nice is unbeaten, this stats giving them edge over Clermont tonight. I'm definitely going to place wager on Nice to bear Clermont, but observing the odds, I was kind of discouraged it was too small, I'm scouting for a good game with high odds that will double my earnings in the system. However, Hopefully Paris Saint-Germain will bounce back to reclaimed their position as Ligue One giants which they've always been.

Not only that, that when Nice played away against PSG and Moncao before, in fact Nice managed to win away in difficult matches like that. Therefore, playing away against Clermont, will certainly still guarantee three points for Nice in this match. I personally don't doubt Nice quality at this moment because after all, it seems Nice is better when playing away. So yes, favoring Nice in this away match is feasible and moreover, the odds that are around @ 2.00 I think are still very good odds for the team that can win in this match.

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October 27, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
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France League is changing, watching other competitive teams fighting to remain in good spots on Ligue One table is such an amazing action pulled by these teams. Nice is unbeaten, this stats giving them edge over Clermont tonight. I'm definitely going to place wager on Nice to bear Clermont, but observing the odds, I was kind of discouraged it was too small, I'm scouting for a good game with high odds that will double my earnings in the system. However, Hopefully Paris Saint-Germain will bounce back to reclaimed their position as Ligue One giants which they've always been.

The French league is now interesting and has many surprises, even a club like Lyon is now at the bottom of the standings. In the Clermont match against Nice, I will also bet on Nice, of course Nice in this match has its own ambitions, apart from maintaining their standing position, they also want to extend their unbeaten trend.

So far, Nice is the only team unbeaten in Ligue 1, of course this is an extraordinary achievement and they are only one point behind Monaco. On the other hand, the Clermont team just got their first win of the season when they won against Lyon. I have no doubt that PSG will return to first place, of the many League 1 teams, only PSG is filled with many star players.

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October 27, 2023, 07:36:39 PM
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There is a Lens - Nantes game tomorrow. I hope to see that this game becomes an opportunity to rise for Lens in the league. Because we haven't seen the same performance as the one they have in the Champions League. They got two draws in their last two Ligue 1 games. It is time to make a bigger effort to end this streak.

Nantes are in a better situation and form in the league considering the last five games. But still Lens are quite much the favourite by bookmakers. I think we will see a win here but it might not be a comfortable one. It might end like 2-1.

True, this could be a moment of revival for Lens in Ligue 1, but of course this will not be an easy match for Lens considering that Nantes has been quite consistent recently. So far RC Lens has @1.58, @4.2 for a draw and @5.6 for Nantes to win in 1X2 betting. Based on those odds, I think RC Lens can win bigger than you think, I think RC Lens 3 - 1 Nantes is quite reasonable.

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October 27, 2023, 07:56:40 PM
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The French league is now interesting and has many surprises, even a club like Lyon is now at the bottom of the standings. In the Clermont match against Nice, I will also bet on Nice, of course Nice in this match has its own ambitions, apart from maintaining their standing position, they also want to extend their unbeaten trend.
Halfway through the match, still no team has scored a goal, both Clermont and Nice are still in the same position, namely 0 - 0. But I also have confidence that Nice will try not to lose this match and I I also don't think that Clermont will make another surprise in this match, because Nice's spirit is also much greater than Clermont's and this is very visible through Nice's control of the ball in this match even though there was a penalty which was missed as a goal in the 37th minute.

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So far, Nice is the only team unbeaten in Ligue 1, of course this is an extraordinary achievement and they are only one point behind Monaco. On the other hand, the Clermont team just got their first win of the season when they won against Lyon. I have no doubt that PSG will return to first place, of the many League 1 teams, only PSG is filled with many star players.
This season PSG will have a little difficulty getting first place in Ligue1, although perhaps in the end PSG will be able to be at the top again this season. But for now PSG must continue to try as hard as they can to beat two rivals who are very consistent in winning matches, namely Nice and Monaco. Even though it's not that far away for PSG to overtake the two teams this season, because in terms of points PSG is still very close to the two teams.
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October 27, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
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talking about poor performance in domestic competitions actually for now, I think Lens is still a little better than seeing what happened with Lyon because they are the club that is the worst in the decline in performance if we do a comparison of this season with last season.
I do not understand what causes Lyon to be this bad, but it's definitely not something they should be proud of, it looks like they are doing quite terribly all year long and I am not really expecting them to do any better. Of course they could get a little better on the rankings a bit, but I think it's not really that easy to handle.

I think it would be smarter if they ended up with something that should be a little bit fixing what's going wrong inside the club. Is it the ownership? Is it the management? The football director? The operations? The staff and the managers? Whatever is the thing that makes them this bad, they need to fix that first because they can't make the team better without figuring out what's wrong first.
Internal politics is having deep causes for this all and if club management fail to settle things in near future then most chances we will have them relegated which could be surely the worst ever for the club and fans as well after 9 rounds they are not able to win any match and already having deficit of 11 goals which is surely not ideal for the team because now if we are able to check their fixtures list mostly they are having tough matches and with this look like they could be stayed at the bottom until new year and with this next round could be more terrible for them because having results like this most chances they could be not able to secure their survival and in last game they were not able to win match against another team at home which was also in relegation zone, so things are surely needed quick settlement.
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October 27, 2023, 08:04:13 PM
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In that match it is probably true that Nice will win and betting on Nice only has small odds so I will decide to bet on 1x2 double chance to get slightly bigger odds and hopefully there are no surprises because the worry of a draw is very bad.
But from the overall history of these two clubs, Nice still has a greater chance of winning the match and I am more confident that there will be no draw or at least 1-2.
Nice is the only team that is unbeaten this season in 9 matches. and looks like it will continue in 10 matches. because it would not be very good for Nice if they got a draw or even lost to Clermont whose player quality is far below Nice.
this season Nice is doing well. Hopefully, they can consistently maintain their performance. Last season wasn't that good but this season they are competing with PSG and Monaco at the top of the standings.
Clermont is currently too weak a team to beat Nice, Struggling at the bottom of the table with hopes to leave the relegation zone before the league ends is a good level of weakness already exhibited, because they have played nine game already this season and they are able to get just five points keeping them just two points from the last position on the table, definitely they have had a really poor start this season.

Nice currently at the second position with good performance this season is a better side, Nice also have a better squad and dept as compared to Clermont so I almost don't see a chance for Clermont but then just like football will come with it's suprises at times, it's very much possible Clermont fights to get a draw as they will be playing from home, that advantage is all they have gat in this game.
So will there be any surprises in this match?
The current score is still tied at 0-0 in the first half and in the second half I'm pretty sure Nice will put pressure on in the second half to make the Clermont players mentally decline after that the Nice players will try to score and my prediction is still the same at least Nice will be ahead by 2 scores in the second half and hopefully there will be no surprise draw.

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October 27, 2023, 08:19:24 PM
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Yeah it is worrying to see Lens being near the relegation zone truthfully. They were amazing last season and stayed in the Ligue 1 title competition for a very long time. PSG were even able to finish only one point ahead of Lens which proves my point. But this huge change is pretty awkward to me.  Huh

Their situation is so similar to Sevilla now, completely true. You know how strong Sevilla were in the La Liga until the 2021/22 season. They have nearly always been a part of top 4 at the end of a season. But now they are lost and trying to find themselves again.

I hope both of Lens and Sevilla can make good progress in their domestic leagues.

Honestly, I can't say much about this team. As you said, last season Lens managed to finish in 2nd place in Ligue 1. This season, Fanck Haise's squad looks completely helpless. At the start of this competition, in the first 5 matches, Lens was unable to win even one match. although one of the matches ended in a draw. After playing a draw in the League against Sevilla, Lens seemed to have strong motivation with two wins in Ligue 1 against Toulouse and Strasbourg. after that, they surprised by overthrowing Arsenal on the second matchday with a score of 2-1.

After that, there were various positive reactions if Fanck Haise's team would return to its original track. Unfortunately, the three matches after that in two different events only resulted in draws. Don't be surprised if Lens has the potential to achieve bad results when they host Nantes this week. In fact, I'm not at all sure if Lenz has a chance of qualifying for the next phase in the Champions League group phase. However, Lens is now in 2nd place with 5 points. There is potential if Lens falls when they visit PSV's headquarters, Arsenal, and host Sevilla.
IMO, one of the things that caused this team to experience a decline and change in performance was when they released several important players in the transfer window last summer. As for the newcomers, they didn't live up to the coach's expectations. or maybe, if the system Heise implemented was not ideal with the players available. Now, Lens is in an unsafe situation. they are ranked 15th two points behind Clermont.


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October 27, 2023, 09:59:27 PM
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Honestly, I can't say much about this team. As you said, last season Lens managed to finish in 2nd place in Ligue 1. This season, Fanck Haise's squad looks completely helpless. At the start of this competition, in the first 5 matches, Lens was unable to win even one match. although one of the matches ended in a draw. After playing a draw in the League against Sevilla, Lens seemed to have strong motivation with two wins in Ligue 1 against Toulouse and Strasbourg. after that, they surprised by overthrowing Arsenal on the second matchday with a score of 2-1.

After that, there were various positive reactions if Fanck Haise's team would return to its original track. Unfortunately, the three matches after that in two different events only resulted in draws. Don't be surprised if Lens has the potential to achieve bad results when they host Nantes this week. In fact, I'm not at all sure if Lenz has a chance of qualifying for the next phase in the Champions League group phase. However, Lens is now in 2nd place with 5 points. There is potential if Lens falls when they visit PSV's headquarters, Arsenal, and host Sevilla.
IMO, one of the things that caused this team to experience a decline and change in performance was when they released several important players in the transfer window last summer. As for the newcomers, they didn't live up to the coach's expectations. or maybe, if the system Heise implemented was not ideal with the players available. Now, Lens is in an unsafe situation. they are ranked 15th two points behind Clermont.

What is wrong with Lens is beyond expectations because they were superb last season they played very brilliantly and nearly won the league if PSG had made any mistake at the late stage of the league cause they finished 2nd position with just 1 point behind PSG however this season they're nothing to talk about and with the way they're performing one won't even believe they finished in the top four last season, however they might have won several matches suprisenly but they need to be consistent if they want to atleast finish top 6 this season.

 Werll I won't be suprise if they get a bad result this week cause they've already shocked me with their inconsistentcy this season, i expected them to be in the position of Nice fighting to taking away the title from PSG but they're not even close to top 10 and with the way they're going I doubt if they'll end qualify for conference league.
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October 27, 2023, 09:59:32 PM
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I will bet on Nice winning because this is clear and there is no doubt that Nice will win again. Currently Nice is in its best performance and they will continue to maintain this advantage so that the competing teams below them cannot overtake them easily. The rivalry with Monaco is certainly worth watching and I think these two teams will still be quite dominant at least in the middle of the season. Maybe Clermont has quite good capital after beating Lyon last week but in front of Nice that alone is not enough and they have to accept the fact that they will still be in the relegation zone this week.
In the end, Nice won although there was only 1 score, but they succeeded in stealing three points, their consistency so far deserves to be appreciated. Club Nice are really unstoppable this season right? they might be able to be consistent until the end if there are no injuries or squad changes after winter transfer window, because in the winter transfer window there Nice players may be recruited by other Europa clubs. But I hope not, because Nice must stay on track.

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October 27, 2023, 10:10:55 PM
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Honestly, I can't say much about this team. As you said, last season Lens managed to finish in 2nd place in Ligue 1. This season, Fanck Haise's squad looks completely helpless. At the start of this competition, in the first 5 matches, Lens was unable to win even one match. although one of the matches ended in a draw. After playing a draw in the League against Sevilla, Lens seemed to have strong motivation with two wins in Ligue 1 against Toulouse and Strasbourg. after that, they surprised by overthrowing Arsenal on the second matchday with a score of 2-1.

After that, there were various positive reactions if Fanck Haise's team would return to its original track. Unfortunately, the three matches after that in two different events only resulted in draws. Don't be surprised if Lens has the potential to achieve bad results when they host Nantes this week. In fact, I'm not at all sure if Lenz has a chance of qualifying for the next phase in the Champions League group phase. However, Lens is now in 2nd place with 5 points. There is potential if Lens falls when they visit PSV's headquarters, Arsenal, and host Sevilla.
IMO, one of the things that caused this team to experience a decline and change in performance was when they released several important players in the transfer window last summer. As for the newcomers, they didn't live up to the coach's expectations. or maybe, if the system Heise implemented was not ideal with the players available. Now, Lens is in an unsafe situation. they are ranked 15th two points behind Clermont.

What is wrong with Lens is beyond expectations because they were superb last season they played very brilliantly and nearly won the league if PSG had made any mistake at the late stage of the league cause they finished 2nd position with just 1 point behind PSG however this season they're nothing to talk about and with the way they're performing one won't even believe they finished in the top four last season, however they might have won several matches suprisenly but they need to be consistent if they want to atleast finish top 6 this season.

 Werll I won't be suprise if they get a bad result this week cause they've already shocked me with their inconsistentcy this season, i expected them to be in the position of Nice fighting to taking away the title from PSG but they're not even close to top 10 and with the way they're going I doubt if they'll end qualify for conference league.
Lens really have Paris Saint Germaine a torrid competition in the French Ligue 1 last season and it got to a point that they were considered as one team that was going to stop PSG's dominance in the league but they've been absolutely shadow of the Lens side we saw last season as as they've been able to get just 9 points after 9 league matches. It's very strange to see runner's up in the league last season languishing in the bottom half of the league table. I hope the management of the club does something positive as quickly as possible to bring the club back to their best once again or risk being relegated at the end of the season.

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October 27, 2023, 11:12:25 PM
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The first half of the Clermont - Nice game was completely one-sided. I mean Clermont didn't even have a single goal attempt. Nice found a huge opportunity to score by a penalty. However Laborde missed the penalty and made things difficult for his team. There has been already a serious drop in his performance and this was just horrible.

He might not get his position in the starting eleven easily maybe from now on. Anyway despite Clermont's balancing the game in the second half Nice still scored a late winning goal to seal the deal by 1-0. By this win Nice are still maintaining the title of being the only team without a single defeat in the league this season.  Smiley

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October 28, 2023, 02:45:57 AM
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talking about poor performance in domestic competitions actually for now, I think Lens is still a little better than seeing what happened with Lyon because they are the club that is the worst in the decline in performance if we do a comparison of this season with last season.
I do not understand what causes Lyon to be this bad, but it's definitely not something they should be proud of, it looks like they are doing quite terribly all year long and I am not really expecting them to do any better. Of course they could get a little better on the rankings a bit, but I think it's not really that easy to handle.

I think it would be smarter if they ended up with something that should be a little bit fixing what's going wrong inside the club. Is it the ownership? Is it the management? The football director? The operations? The staff and the managers? Whatever is the thing that makes them this bad, they need to fix that first because they can't make the team better without figuring out what's wrong first.
Internal politics is having deep causes for this all and if club management fail to settle things in near future then most chances we will have them relegated which could be surely the worst ever for the club and fans as well after 9 rounds they are not able to win any match and already having deficit of 11 goals which is surely not ideal for the team because now if we are able to check their fixtures list mostly they are having tough matches and with this look like they could be stayed at the bottom until new year and with this next round could be more terrible for them because having results like this most chances they could be not able to secure their survival and in last game they were not able to win match against another team at home which was also in relegation zone, so things are surely needed quick settlement.

Lyon and Lens are the two most surprising teams in this season. They definitely should have performed better compared to what they have done so far. Lyon is at the absolute bottom of the table without having a single win so far in this season. Lens is also not very far away from the relegation zone, to be honest. Lyon seems to be doomed for this season unless they somehow start performing well. And I really do not have any idea how they can do that. Lens still has hope in my opinion. After all, it has not been a long time since the season had started. Not even 10 matches have been played so far. So they still have a chance to improve their performance and actually get towards the top of the table.

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