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November 16, 2023, 04:43:16 PM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.
So far, Monaco is playing pretty well, and they are ready to compete again to pursue the top position, but PSG is much better if it is calculated as a whole, in the last five matches PSG has experienced a successive victory, while Monaco himself in the last match playing with Le Havre produces a match The draw, so it is still fairly Monaco unstable performance in victory.

It is very interesting if there is rain goals between the Monaco vs PSG match, I think Alexander Golovin and Wissam need to gather more goals to donate to the team to get a victory.

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November 16, 2023, 04:52:29 PM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.
Yes, Nice's draw in their last match allowed Paris Saint Germain to dislodge them from the top of the table. It's disapointing when Nice can only draw against a club that can't really be said to be strong either.
Monaco is a tough opponent for Paris Siant Germain, Monaco has the potential to win points from Paris Saint Germain headquarters in the upcoming match. They should be wary of the visitors even though they are on a very good run in Ligue 1, apart from their Champions League defeat to AC Milan.

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November 16, 2023, 05:34:20 PM
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But do you really think the players have a button that they can push so they instantly focus less on the Champions League, just let it go and lose there in order to more focus on the domestic league? Isn't that nonsense in your opinion? Players give everything they have for a whole year, celebrate that they managed to qualify for the Champions League and then you think they sit together with the coach and say: let's dump the Champions League and play at 70% so we can give more of our energy for Ligue 1? Cheesy

Come on, the analogy is like you said and it seems you misunderstood. that doesn't mean Lens has to leave the Champions League, Dude. In fact, they still have several matches in this group phase, namely against Arsenal at the Emirates Stadiums and hosting Sevilla. but you also need to remember, this team is mediocre, not a super strong team. Then, did I say they should press the button to just focus on Ligue 1, right Dude. in fact, they have to go through all the scheduled matches they have.

But also remember that Lens has coaches and management, they can choose to prioritize which competitions. and what is certain is that every match they will play, they will play it to the best of their ability. It's just that there's no need to force it so that they go all out in every competition they play. That doesn't mean they just give up. and usually, every club takes into consideration that their squad is optimal. which means, there is one competition that is their focus target. And, that's as simple as I mean.

No, they should not press the button and focus on Ligue and they never will. These games won't happen very often in their careers if they play for Lens and the fans would always want to see their players fight and not just give up no matter how hopeless the situation is. Look at Copenhagen and what they are doing due to the fights they put up and the help of their fans. It is amazing that a small team like that may qualify for the next round.

PSV has a difficult game away against Sevilla and then another difficult game against Arsenal at home. If Lens can beat Sevilla at home, there is still a chance that they make the miracle happen and everyone in that club wants it badly.

I know they are mediocre and these games are never decided in the underdog's favor with quality football, but with spirit and dedication. That is why teams like Copenhagen and Lens have a chance and yet they love to play in their domestic leagues.

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November 16, 2023, 05:48:17 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin

Yes indeed, because of the 6 matches away for Lille so far, the fact is that Lille more often get a draw, because from 6 matches away from Lille, the fact is that Lille only gets 1 win 4 draws and 1 loss. I also think, it is not a good record for a team that is currently in the top four in the Ligue 1 standings. Therefore, despite playing against Lyon later that Lille is still favored to win reflected in the available odds but ya, it still seems not easy for Lille to beat Lyon at home. But even so, maybe I will still come forward to bet for Lille to win this match, because I guess Lille will maximize Lyon bad conditions this moment to beat Lyon at home.

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November 16, 2023, 06:03:25 PM
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It has been a long time for Monaco to rise in the standings and be a part of the title race in the Ligue 1. I still can't forget their times with Radamel Falcao.  Smiley  They had a really great squad filled with talented players in the past and they even won the league title in the 2016/17 season. But since that squad started to break into pieces they haven't been able to become very ambitious for the title.  Sad

But in this season they can really stay in the title race for a long time. They are a really productive team at the moment. They are the 2nd most scorer team now.

But indeed their weakness is their defending. They have conceded 14 goals in 12 matches. Next time I wonder how this will affect them against PSG.   Huh

Falcao was on form until he moved to Man United and Chelsea they ended his career but all is well now with Rayo Vallencano even if he is not as agile like he was during Monaco days.
Not just Ramadel Falcao, they had Bernado Silva, Fabinho, Mbappe are players who won the league with Monaco. They played so well that no club was up to challenge Monaco that year. James Rodriguez who scored that best goal in the world cup too.
If they gave difficult situations defending they should try to score more goals in matches. Transfer window will be opened soon clubs are beginning to identify players needed for the development of the club.

Yeah indeed. Even Mbappe was playing for Monaco those days. He was newly shining at his team and was signed by PSG for a record-breaking price after that. Those days Monaco had their best squad ever after so many years. Their squad was full of young players maybe but those were very talented players.

I don't know if we would see Monaco having another golden generation like that. But at least they are doing good in this season. A golden generation can help them become consistent in the Ligue 1 in most seasons also.

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November 16, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.
Yes, Nice's draw in their last match allowed Paris Saint Germain to dislodge them from the top of the table. It's disapointing when Nice can only draw against a club that can't really be said to be strong either.
Monaco is a tough opponent for Paris Siant Germain, Monaco has the potential to win points from Paris Saint Germain headquarters in the upcoming match. They should be wary of the visitors even though they are on a very good run in Ligue 1, apart from their Champions League defeat to AC Milan.

Nice drew goalless with Montpellier. This is why the team has to lose the top spot. I know the Montpellier team is not strong. However, I am not at all surprised to see such a result in this match. Because I don't think the Nice team is very strong. I was actually a bit annoyed to see this team at the top of the table.

Nice team scored only 13 goals in 12 matches. The team held the top spot in the table only because of their strong defence. Their offensive performance is quite poor. Monaco, who are third in the points table, have scored 25 goals in 12 matches. I think only Monaco can stay in the title fight with PSG this season.

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November 16, 2023, 06:35:21 PM
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Olympique Lyon is an important team and this table is their big problem. Lyon beat Rennes 1-0 and got the first victory. By beating Lyon and Rennes, the last team in the league, they showed that even though they are last, they have a quality squad. Lyon will be saved from the lower ranks, but being in this rank will make them self-criticize after a long time.

Put differently, you are saying that any team beating Rennis is automatically a high quality team. I am not sure you really meant to say that as it means literally nothing to beat Rennes when it comes to assessing the quality of a squad. If they beat PSG or Nice, I would agree that this would allow for some conclusions to be made, but beating a team that is positioned in the lower half of the table is really nothing that is helpful to see whether it is a quality team or not.

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November 16, 2023, 07:10:24 PM
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No, they should not press the button and focus on Ligue and they never will. These games won't happen very often in their careers if they play for Lens and the fans would always want to see their players fight and not just give up no matter how hopeless the situation is. Look at Copenhagen and what they are doing due to the fights they put up and the help of their fans. It is amazing that a small team like that may qualify for the next round.

PSV has a difficult game away against Sevilla and then another difficult game against Arsenal at home. If Lens can beat Sevilla at home, there is still a chance that they make the miracle happen and everyone in that club wants it badly.

I know they are mediocre and these games are never decided in the underdog's favor with quality football, but with spirit and dedication. That is why teams like Copenhagen and Lens have a chance and yet they love to play in their domestic leagues.

edit: I have edited the missing words in the previous post.

And yeah, as I said, that doesn't mean they don't have to do their best in the Champions League competition. After all, as I said, like it or not, Lens has to play all his matches in various competitions. Let's flashback to when Lens started playing in two competitions, namely the Coupe de France. Their performance declined, although Haise was able to bring his team back to performing well.

Now we are talking about Copenhagen, let's refer to their ranking in their domestic competition, they are in first place with 33 points from their 15 matches. Their performance was inversely proportional in the Champions League, fortunately they faced United, a very unlucky team in that match. btw, Copenhagen is not in the same group as Lens in the Champions League group.

PSV is not much different from Copenhagen, they are in first place in their domestic league. In fact, PSV was unbeaten in 12 of their matches and swept all the matches with a win. unfortunately, their performance was not that good in the Champions League. Based on temporary odds, the Sevilla vs PSV match, the two teams seem to be evenly matched based on the bookie's odds. If PSV wins that means... Lens' chances of getting to the next round are quite tough. In fact, Lens will play an away match at Emritas, home of the Gunners.

Well, from what I have said, there is a gap between all the teams that I have mentioned here. both in the Domestic league and in the Champions League. the problem is, it's all up to the club, the coach and the players. If they insist on going all out, it means they will put in a big effort in these matches. every result can have an impact on their matches in domestic league competitions and Arsenal is no exception. So that's it, let's see what happens when the fifth matchday of the Champions League group phase is held.

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November 16, 2023, 07:12:37 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin
Lyon this season has really slumped based on its performance. They only achieved 1 win in 11 matches, and that was because they had a 1 player advantage since the first half. Lyon's defense was very poor, while the performance of the attackers was also not very good. Lyon have only been able to score 9 goals in 11 matches, while they have conceded 19 goals so far.

I think Lyon could be relegated this season if they don't recover from this slump quickly, but it won't be as easy as turning the palm of the hand. Lyon will have to invest more in their players in the next transfer window to improve their squad depth, but fixing the current player performance and confidence issues is the main focus of the coach. I'm not sure what the biggest problem is this season, but they've been really bad.

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November 16, 2023, 07:14:35 PM
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No chance for marseille to enter into the title race. The club can only finish at the middle position. Marseille can go up as long as it will get winstreak which is quite impossible at this moment. Lens is struggling at league 1 but it has better performance in UCL.
I think that lens put UCL as the main aim caused by the club can farm money from there instead of french league which is still running till next year. Lens was beating marseille with narrow score.

The game between lens vs marseille was quite boring with only around 5 shots on target in total being made in this match. I don't like this kind of match when two teams were playing passively without even try to explore it even more to get the weakness spot of its opponent.
Aubameyang is a useless striker right now. No doubt if there was no big european club that was willing to take him anymore. he has lost his prime
marseille may also try to replace him with better striker to help the club in achieving three points from its opponent.

Marsielle has been performing in their league but they just haven't been performing well, they're in the bottom section of the table and they've undoubtedly been struggling to secure wins. Their counterpart Lens have been performing better in the UCL than their domestic league, for me they'd have focused their time, strength and ability on their domestic league where they'd even have more possibilities of securing a good spot than the Champions league where there'd be struggling to even secure a spot in the round of 16 without talking of the other subsequent stages in the contest.
 
 Marsielle should build up themselves more to stay on track in the league, they still have enough time ahead of them and positive outcomes can be actualized, but then it can't be actualized if they don't put in more effort on the pitch to get better than they're doing currently.

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November 16, 2023, 07:22:26 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin

win against Rennes was Lyon's first win since this season started and the conditions were quite worrying, especially as you said, Rennes played with 10 players from the 5th minute but Lyon was unable to score more than one goal in that match. It seems that Lyon's hopes of getting out of the relegation zone will be very difficult, if they are not able to improve the quality of their game, Lyon played quite well last season, they even managed to stop in 7th position, but this season they failed to maintain the consistency of their performance.



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November 16, 2023, 07:28:20 PM
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I guess nobody nobody thought the table would be looking like this for Olympique Lyon after 11 games, but this trend looks so bad for them that I also doubt that they will recover from that. Because this is not just about bad results, but about having the second weakest offense of the league. 7 points after eleven games doesn't look like an outlier that will soon be corrected. This could a fierce fight until the last day against the relegation zone.
Lyon's recent form makes it clear that they are in a difficult situation. Their problem is more complex (possibly even internal) than a few poor performances. Only one victory in eleven games is a clear sign that something is wrong. Conversely, there are clubs like PSG that feature stars like Kylian Mbappé, who is still a powerful force in sports even though he hasnt won the Ballon d'Or. The circumstances of Lyon are very different from these elite teams. They must immediately reevaluate and deal with these internal problems. Not only is it important to make up ground today, but restructuring is also necessary for a more secure future in the league.
That internal conflict that they have must be solved, maybe a new owner would be a lot better, it would make sense for the club because we are talking about someone who could takeover the club and spend money and hire the right people. I do not know who owns it right now, but it's obvious that they are not doing a good job at it and they should be avoiding that owner as much as possible.

No team like that should be playing like this, they are really doing terrible and I feel like the best thing to do right now would be just avoiding the situation as much as possible. I get that money is a trouble, so finding a richer owner would make it even better for them on the long run and allow them to make it a bigger club for sure.
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November 16, 2023, 07:45:47 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin
Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.

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November 16, 2023, 09:35:17 PM
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But do you really think the players have a button that they can push so they instantly focus less on the Champions League, just let it go and lose there in order to more focus on the domestic league? Isn't that nonsense in your opinion? Players give everything they have for a whole year, celebrate that they managed to qualify for the Champions League and then you think they sit together with the coach and say: let's dump the Champions League and play at 70% so we can give more of our energy for Ligue 1? Cheesy
Definitely that's not the case, no one would want to at any point think such because I think every football lover would definitely know that there's a dynamics to these things and it's not about the players been told or controlled to focus more on one league as against the other,it's basically tactics at times.

But some times based on priority, coaches may sometimes try out certain tactics in some of the leagues and wouldn't use same in the others, like the champions league which happens to be very competitive and it's amongst teams drawn from different leagues, definitely the approach will differ from that which will be used in their domestic leagues because there's a pattern that varies across different leagues and that's why sometimes it will look as if focus was redirected.

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November 16, 2023, 09:43:10 PM
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win against Rennes was Lyon's first win since this season started and the conditions were quite worrying, especially as you said, Rennes played with 10 players from the 5th minute but Lyon was unable to score more than one goal in that match. It seems that Lyon's hopes of getting out of the relegation zone will be very difficult, if they are not able to improve the quality of their game, Lyon played quite well last season, they even managed to stop in 7th position, but this season they failed to maintain the consistency of their performance.
It can't be a benchmark because in the end winning with superior numbers of players will only be considered as a fairness in this case but at least with the 3 points they managed to get in the match against Rennes last week this can improve their spirit which is quite bleak because they never get a victory in the first 10 matches they do. Facing Lille this could be a very tough test again but they have good momentum so don't let momentum like this be damaged again with a defeat so as much as possible they should try to make this a point even if they can't make 3 points if it's too difficult but they have to force a draw so that their performance does not decline again after gaining momentum.

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November 16, 2023, 10:21:29 PM
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That internal conflict that they have must be solved, maybe a new owner would be a lot better, it would make sense for the club because we are talking about someone who could takeover the club and spend money and hire the right people. I do not know who owns it right now, but it's obvious that they are not doing a good job at it and they should be avoiding that owner as much as possible.

No team like that should be playing like this, they are really doing terrible and I feel like the best thing to do right now would be just avoiding the situation as much as possible. I get that money is a trouble, so finding a richer owner would make it even better for them on the long run and allow them to make it a bigger club for sure.
Lyon might have secured their 1st win this season in their last match against Rennes but it's not enough cause they're still at the very bottom of the league, however they're lucky that the league is not yet close to it's late stages if not they won't have missed being relegated, but I think there's still hope for them to get better this season, well with the way they've performed so far, one would be right to say that a new ownership of the club should be considered, to save the club from failing and strengthening them financially during the January window to help them sign new players and get out of the relegation zone.

 They'll be facing a team that's currently top four in the league and i doubt if they'll be able to win the game even though they'll be facing Lille with a home advantage, Lyon might have won Rennes but Lille is  stronger side and would really pressure pressure Lyon more to get the three points.

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November 16, 2023, 10:24:31 PM
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But do you really think the players have a button that they can push so they instantly focus less on the Champions League, just let it go and lose there in order to more focus on the domestic league? Isn't that nonsense in your opinion? Players give everything they have for a whole year, celebrate that they managed to qualify for the Champions League and then you think they sit together with the coach and say: let's dump the Champions League and play at 70% so we can give more of our energy for Ligue 1? Cheesy
Definitely that's not the case, no one would want to at any point think such because I think every football lover would definitely know that there's a dynamics to these things and it's not about the players been told or controlled to focus more on one league as against the other,it's basically tactics at times.

But some times based on priority, coaches may sometimes try out certain tactics in some of the leagues and wouldn't use same in the others, like the champions league which happens to be very competitive and it's amongst teams drawn from different leagues, definitely the approach will differ from that which will be used in their domestic leagues because there's a pattern that varies across different leagues and that's why sometimes it will look as if focus was redirected.

Yes but imagine you are the coach of Lens and you have this once in a lifetime chance, not only the players, but also the coach, to play agains the best teams in the world and then achieve the biggest dream ever and advance into the next round of the Champions League. I have not the slightest doubt that every coach on this planet would do the very best for the team and with the team to make it happen. There is no priority on Ligue 1 when you can advance to the next round in the biggest international football competition on the club level in the world.

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November 16, 2023, 10:32:40 PM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.
The game between Paris Saint Germaine and Monaco will be a very interesting match to watch because of how impressive the two teams have been this season in the French Ligue 1.
Monaco who are currently in the third position trailing league leaders with just three points knows that a win in that game will take them to the same number of points with Paris Saint Germaine.
That being said, I expect the league leaders to win that game because if how strong they are and the fact that they'll be playing at home in front of their home fans.

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November 16, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.

It's really amazing how a club like Olympic Lyon is rocking the bottom of the table at the relegation zone, I mean Olympic Lyon have been of great impact to France ligue 1 over the years. Players like Michael Essien was groomed in Olympic Lyon before joining Chelsea where he recorded huge success, how about Karim Benzima he was also brought up in Olympic Lyon before he joined Real Madrid and achieved a great result. It baffles me that a great team like Olympic Lyon is at the bottom of the tables after playing 11 matches, won just one match, drew 4 and lost 6 matches.

Sometimes one thing that affects a club performance is selling most of their key players as the selling of their two players namely Lucas Paqueta and Bruno Guimaraes in 2022 was a very big loss to them and hence their poor performance. These two players was of great impact to Olympic Lyon before they were sold out.

I think the best option for Olympic Lyon is to buy more players in January transfer window as their current form now is nothing to write home about considering the fact that they have won the France league title for a record of 7 good times. They need to improve in their performance as being in the relegation zone of the league is not good for the club.

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November 16, 2023, 11:20:13 PM
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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.

It's really amazing how a club like Olympic Lyon is rocking the bottom of the table at the relegation zone, I mean Olympic Lyon have been of great impact to France ligue 1 over the years. Players like Michael Essien was groomed in Olympic Lyon before joining Chelsea where he recorded huge success, how about Karim Benzima he was also brought up in Olympic Lyon before he joined Real Madrid and achieved a great result. It baffles me that a great team like Olympic Lyon is at the bottom of the tables after playing 11 matches, won just one match, drew 4 and lost 6 matches.

Sometimes one thing that affects a club performance is selling most of their key players as the selling of their two players namely Lucas Paqueta and Bruno Guimaraes in 2022 was a very big loss to them and hence their poor performance. These two players was of great impact to Olympic Lyon before they were sold out.

I think the best option for Olympic Lyon is to buy more players in January transfer window as their current form now is nothing to write home about considering the fact that they have won the France league title for a record of 7 good times. They need to improve in their performance as being in the relegation zone of the league is not good for the club.

Olympic Lyon is not in a good situation at all and they lost many points during this season so far. I was expecting to see better results for this team but unfortunately, in the 11 games, we saw in the French league Olympic Lyon won only one game in the last week against Rennes. Even if Olympic Lyon buys some players during the winter I think this team can't be in the Ligue 1 for the next season with the current situation they have.

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