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January 10, 2025, 07:46:56 AM
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Has anyone been following Rennes this season? They are having a bad season in general, just like last season. I'd like to know what you think about Jota. They bought him for 8 million Euro but he's only played 3 games in the starting 11. He has played a total of 9 games and has only 1 goal and no assists. He plays as a left winger and a striker, but if he can't contribute to the scoring, there is no point.
Nowadays his arrival to Beşiktaş is on the agenda, when I looked at his stats I really thought he is not for us. Do you think these bad stats are due to the general situation of Rennes or were the transfer fees paid for him in the past really inflated by the agents? The Scots paid 16 million, then the Saudis paid 29 million for him. But when you look at his contribution to the team, he is not worth that kind of money.


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January 10, 2025, 10:45:39 AM
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One of the factors that makes the level different between Paris Saint Germain and other teams in Ligue 1 is the financial condition. Paris Saint Germain can be very free to get the players they want, even though they have to get them at a very fantastic price, while other teams cannot have it. Even other teams have to sell players who play well to get a profit, that is a very striking difference.
PSG are still one of the most talked about European teams and they are attracting big names and top calibre players because of the wealth of the club. Left alone to winning trophies and their stand in European competitions it would have been difficult for the club to influence some big deals as well as retain some top players they have, the wealth of the owners is really paving ways for them.
That's why PSG's record is better and better, which is why it's a good way to weaken other teams that PSG is using.  Even if it does not win this title, it will be a shame that PSG will be. So it's only PSG's advantage that they're taking it and winning the match. PSG's points are also quite good as they have recently won 4 matches to get a lot of points.  Other teams don't have money, so that's the problem of these leagues, but PSG has the Europa League, because of which they invest so much money, get players and win matches. PSG's next matches are also going to be easy which will allow them to win more matches and get more points.











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January 10, 2025, 11:14:02 AM
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Yes, as we are talking about this season, the one that dominates the top of the French League is PSG. There is no other team that can beat PSG at the top of the French League standings, even though they are at the bottom followed by Monaco and Marseille, they also cannot catch up with the points that PSG has collected. There is high hope that PSG will to become champion in the French League at the end of the season.
I agree with you that only the French League and Domestic League can be achieved by PSG, whereas in the European League it seems to be a burden with big teams from all leagues so PSG's steps to qualify for the next round I doubt it.
In the Champions League, it is still appropriate to doubt PSG this season because PSG's performance there is still far from satisfactory. But in Ligue 1, it is quite clear that PSG is still very strong compared to other candidates, only a team as big as PSG should be able to get something more because trophies like Ligue 1 are very common for them every season. So PSG must be able to improve themselves outside Ligue 1 so that the team is not underestimated by rivals from other Leagues when playing in competitions like the Champions League.
I agree, they may literally stay out of top 24 this season and that would be totally shocking and maybe they could even fire Louis Enrique on the spot when that happens. Like the moment it's guaranteed that they are out of top 24, they may fire him on the spot.

Who will replace him could be discussed later on, like they could find some interim manager for the time being at that moment, but the reality is that they should fire him at that moment. This is PSG, they are doing better at league than all French teams in UCL, but in UCL all French teams are doing better than them, Brest and Lille are not teams you should be worried about at all, and yet they are doing better at UCL than PSG, so it's clear that PSG is specially bad at UCL this season and we have absolutely no clue why.

I hope that they get better and get the results they want in the last two games, but it is going to be very tough, I am not expecting simple solutions at all, definitely a tough one.


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January 10, 2025, 11:33:38 AM
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I don't think any other team will compete with PSG for the Ligue 1 title this season. Marseille and Monaco played very well at the beginning of the season. But both of these teams are now far behind. Marseille is 7 points behind PSG and Monaco is 10 points behind. It will not be possible for these teams to close such a big gap. Moreover, Monaco and Marseille's performance is not consistent.

Although PSG has lost points in a few matches, PSG is still undefeated in Ligue 1. Now Luis Enrique's goal is to do well in the Champions League. So maybe PSG may lose points in a few more matches in Ligue 1. However, PSG will not suffer much from this. PSG will win the Ligue 1 title this season as well.
PSG rarely experience competition in Ligue 1, as soon as they have some more or less worthy opponent, they immediately sell their players and become uncompetitive the next season, because for them it is just a business. And PSG sets completely different goals, they strive to win all the tournaments, only with the Champions League they have difficulties. Now Enrique will try to strengthen the attack of PSG, maybe he will succeed if they make several good transfers, but even without this no one will overtake them in Ligue 1.

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January 10, 2025, 11:44:17 AM
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I agree, they may literally stay out of top 24 this season and that would be totally shocking and maybe they could even fire Louis Enrique on the spot when that happens. Like the moment it's guaranteed that they are out of top 24, they may fire him on the spot.

Who will replace him could be discussed later on, like they could find some interim manager for the time being at that moment, but the reality is that they should fire him at that moment. This is PSG, they are doing better at league than all French teams in UCL, but in UCL all French teams are doing better than them, Brest and Lille are not teams you should be worried about at all, and yet they are doing better at UCL than PSG, so it's clear that PSG is specially bad at UCL this season and we have absolutely no clue why.

I hope that they get better and get the results they want in the last two games, but it is going to be very tough, I am not expecting simple solutions at all, definitely a tough one.
Often at times people refer to the French League as farmers leagues or not competitive at all and that's true if you at it critically, the only team in the French League is PSG for the past 14 years or so, the rich owner made sure the club buys the mostly the top player from the other teams in the league thereby reducing the chances of those other teams from competing with them. PSG will keep on struggling in Europe because they face no really competition from their leagues.

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One of the factors that makes the level different between Paris Saint Germain and other teams in Ligue 1 is the financial condition. Paris Saint Germain can be very free to get the players they want, even though they have to get them at a very fantastic price, while other teams cannot have it. Even other teams have to sell players who play well to get a profit, that is a very striking difference. It is undeniable that money has an influence on a team, therefore football and business cannot be separated and must go hand in hand. I think this will continue to happen when there is no change experienced by other teams, such as another team being acquired by a prince.
PSG are still one of the most talked about European teams and they are attracting big names and top calibre players because of the wealth of the club. Left alone to winning trophies and their stand in European competitions it would have been difficult for the club to influence some big deals as well as retain some top players they have, the wealth of the owners is really paving ways for them.
PSG came into the limelight in the list of all European teams due to their huge spending. This team has spent a lot of money over the past few seasons and has brought together players that no other club would have dreamed of bringing together to play for the same team. Because of these, PSG was in discussion but despite spending so much money but PSG performance could not come into discussion in any season. Every season they have paid high salaries to the players instead these players have only gifted them one league title which was never enough for them. Every season they spent money just to win the Champions League but they never succeeded in this aim. The team is still performing well in the France league regularly but their Champions League performance is still not very good.

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January 10, 2025, 12:51:15 PM
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Often at times people refer to the French League as farmers leagues or not competitive at all and that's true if you at it critically, the only team in the French League is PSG for the past 14 years or so, the rich owner made sure the club buys the mostly the top player from the other teams in the league thereby reducing the chances of those other teams from competing with them. PSG will keep on struggling in Europe because they face no really competition from their leagues.

It is only natural that many people say that the French league is a farmer's league, because a club can dominate the league for a long time, even up to a decade. and before PSG won the French league was Olympique Lyonnais, they dominated the league for 7 seasons. and one of the main factors why the competition in the French league is not so competitive is because of the financial conditions of each club, and clubs that have strong finances, then they will dominate the league. However, if we talk about the farmer's league, I think this does not only happen in the French league, but in other top European leagues the same thing also happens, such as Bayern Munich who dominated the Bundesliga for quite a long time, and so too in La Liga where only Barcelona and Real Madrid dominate the league every season.

PSG came into the limelight in the list of all European teams due to their huge spending. This team has spent a lot of money over the past few seasons and has brought together players that no other club would have dreamed of bringing together to play for the same team. Because of these, PSG was in discussion but despite spending so much money but PSG performance could not come into discussion in any season. Every season they have paid high salaries to the players instead these players have only gifted them one league title which was never enough for them. Every season they spent money just to win the Champions League but they never succeeded in this aim. The team is still performing well in the France league regularly but their Champions League performance is still not very good.

PSG is a club that destroys the market value of players, they often make fantastic offers when interested in the players they want. Their ambition is very high to be able to build the best club in the world, even though the results they get are still far from what is expected.

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The first match for matchday 17 will be held today, it is a match between Nantes & AS Monaco. Briefly, we can find out which team is the favorite in this match. That is AS Monaco where they also have a clear objective to eliminate Marseille in second place in the Ligue 1 standings.

Talking about the Ligue 1 standings, PSG's points gap is too big with Marseille & AS Monaco, in your opinion, is there a big possibility that PSG will fail to win the Ligue 1 title this season?

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One of the factors that makes the level different between Paris Saint Germain and other teams in Ligue 1 is the financial condition. Paris Saint Germain can be very free to get the players they want, even though they have to get them at a very fantastic price, while other teams cannot have it. Even other teams have to sell players who play well to get a profit, that is a very striking difference. It is undeniable that money has an influence on a team, therefore football and business cannot be separated and must go hand in hand. I think this will continue to happen when there is no change experienced by other teams, such as another team being acquired by a prince.
PSG are still one of the most talked about European teams and they are attracting big names and top calibre players because of the wealth of the club. Left alone to winning trophies and their stand in European competitions it would have been difficult for the club to influence some big deals as well as retain some top players they have, the wealth of the owners is really paving ways for them.
PSG came into the limelight in the list of all European teams due to their huge spending. This team has spent a lot of money over the past few seasons and has brought together players that no other club would have dreamed of bringing together to play for the same team. Because of these, PSG was in discussion but despite spending so much money but PSG performance could not come into discussion in any season. Every season they have paid high salaries to the players instead these players have only gifted them one league title which was never enough for them. Every season they spent money just to win the Champions League but they never succeeded in this aim. The team is still performing well in the France league regularly but their Champions League performance is still not very good.

This is because many top European clubs would like to win the Champions League every season. It is not easy, the competition is big, and each of these clubs has excellent players who can make the difference. Details, the player's impulse, decide, so betting on a given team to win the Champions League is wishful thinking. Of course, you can count on victory, but it is very difficult, and very often luck also decides. Even if the club spends an infinite amount of money, it will NEVER have a guarantee that it will win any title - this is sport and anything can happen here.

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PSG can claim the French Ligue title much early before the season comes to an end. I doubt there is any team team that can stop them from winning the French Ligue title. Both Marseille and Monaco has been in form form this season but I don't think they can compete with PSG for the title.
That's what makes this league not so interesting because PSG can claim the title much earlier before the season ends so the league competition is not so competitive. It is difficult for any team to break PSG's dominance and that is not at all the competition that football lovers expect. To be a competitor for PSG in the fight for the title, it takes a balanced player strength and that is not possessed by Marseille or Monaco so it is difficult for both of them to compete with PSG.
You have a point, I just don't like it when there are no competitions in football leagues. This season too, we all know the winner already when we still have months to the end of the season, it shouldn't always be like that, fierce competition keenly competed is always interesting. Still, I absolve PSG from any wrongdoing but rather commend them for holding that top position for too many years while others look on. It's now a wake-up challenge to other clubs in the league, they can buy players and change coaches. PSG doesn't have two heads so they should be ready to break the jinx like what is happening in Serie A.

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Often at times people refer to the French League as farmers leagues or not competitive at all and that's true if you at it critically, the only team in the French League is PSG for the past 14 years or so, the rich owner made sure the club buys the mostly the top player from the other teams in the league thereby reducing the chances of those other teams from competing with them. PSG will keep on struggling in Europe because they face no really competition from their leagues.

It is only natural that many people say that the French league is a farmer's league, because a club can dominate the league for a long time, even up to a decade. and before PSG won the French league was Olympique Lyonnais, they dominated the league for 7 seasons. and one of the main factors why the competition in the French league is not so competitive is because of the financial conditions of each club, and clubs that have strong finances, then they will dominate the league. However, if we talk about the farmer's league, I think this does not only happen in the French league, but in other top European leagues the same thing also happens, such as Bayern Munich who dominated the Bundesliga for quite a long time, and so too in La Liga where only Barcelona and Real Madrid dominate the league every season.



PSG is a club that destroys the market value of players, they often make fantastic offers when interested in the players they want. Their ambition is very high to be able to build the best club in the world, even though the results they get are still far from what is expected.

I don't think these two leagues fits into the context of farmers leagues because even in the EPL that people claim is the best league, in recent years only 3 different teams has won it, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool worse of in the last 4 years only one team has been winning it, will this qualify EPL as a farmers league? of course NO, teams from this league has being doing so well in Europe and even winning it in the last 4 years. Same thing can never be said for the French league. La Liga in the last 10 has been won by 3 different teams, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid and of course they have also also been doing well in Europe especially Real Madrid.

Yes Bundesliga has had one team dominating it but i think Bayern's strength is way too much for other teams to cope with but Leverkusen last season did something great that even Bayern has never done, Unbeaten throughout the entire season. in Europe Bundesliga teams performs more better than any French league team PSG inclusive. I think two years ago, the French League was was even out of the top 5 leagues in Europe, replaced by the Portuguese league, it was that bad for them.

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PSG rarely experience competition in Ligue 1, as soon as they have some more or less worthy opponent, they immediately sell their players and become uncompetitive the next season, because for them it is just a business. And PSG sets completely different goals, they strive to win all the tournaments, only with the Champions League they have difficulties. Now Enrique will try to strengthen the attack of PSG, maybe he will succeed if they make several good transfers, but even without this no one will overtake them in Ligue 1.
It will take a new force like Munich experienced last season in the Bundesliga to break PSG dominance in Ligue 1, so far some of their rivals have started to show improved performance, but overall they have not been completely consistent in maintaining their performance. It is certain that PSG will win the domestic competition again, but when it comes to the UCL, hopes are still very far from reality.
Enrique must strengthen his team to compete at the highest level, perhaps next season there will be signs of improved performance after bringing in several new quality players.


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January 10, 2025, 04:28:22 PM
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Has anyone been following Rennes this season? They are having a bad season in general, just like last season. I'd like to know what you think about Jota. They bought him for 8 million Euro but he's only played 3 games in the starting 11. He has played a total of 9 games and has only 1 goal and no assists. He plays as a left winger and a striker, but if he can't contribute to the scoring, there is no point.
Nowadays his arrival to Beşiktaş is on the agenda, when I looked at his stats I really thought he is not for us. Do you think these bad stats are due to the general situation of Rennes or were the transfer fees paid for him in the past really inflated by the agents? The Scots paid 16 million, then the Saudis paid 29 million for him. But when you look at his contribution to the team, he is not worth that kind of money.
Jote and Fofana came from Saudi, so they may not be ready at the moment and it feels like they are just adjusting back to Europe once again. He hasn't been that great, he is playing with 300+ minutes per goal right now, and that is definitely not a good level to be playing but at the same time Rennes is playing badly as a whole team so it doesn't feel like he is doing anything extra bad compared to the team.

If he was hired by a much better team then he would be playing better and scoring better because people around him would be better as well, now he is playing at a bad team and surrounded by players who aren't that great, so he isn't doing anything great.

Some players play great even when they are surrounded by bad players, Jota isn't that good, he is only good when he is surrounded by other great players.
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I don't think any other team will compete with PSG for the Ligue 1 title this season. Marseille and Monaco played very well at the beginning of the season. But both of these teams are now far behind. Marseille is 7 points behind PSG and Monaco is 10 points behind. It will not be possible for these teams to close such a big gap. Moreover, Monaco and Marseille's performance is not consistent.

Although PSG has lost points in a few matches, PSG is still undefeated in Ligue 1. Now Luis Enrique's goal is to do well in the Champions League. So maybe PSG may lose points in a few more matches in Ligue 1. However, PSG will not suffer much from this. PSG will win the Ligue 1 title this season as well.
PSG rarely experience competition in Ligue 1, as soon as they have some more or less worthy opponent, they immediately sell their players and become uncompetitive the next season, because for them it is just a business. And PSG sets completely different goals, they strive to win all the tournaments, only with the Champions League they have difficulties. Now Enrique will try to strengthen the attack of PSG, maybe he will succeed if they make several good transfers, but even without this no one will overtake them in Ligue 1.
I don't know where got the record of PSG selling their players because of money; your statement makes me think that you are talking about Arsenal under Arsene Wenger who was famous for grooming players to sell at huge profits thereby making the club remain wealthy even though they rarely won trophies.
PSG have been the club with a good assembly of quality players in the likes of Messi and Neymar including Angel Di Maria and Mbappe. These are big names that played in the same club at a time so that idea of selling players because of money is not a PSG thing.

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The first match for matchday 17 will be held today, it is a match between Nantes & AS Monaco. Briefly, we can find out which team is the favorite in this match. That is AS Monaco where they also have a clear objective to eliminate Marseille in second place in the Ligue 1 standings.

Talking about the Ligue 1 standings, PSG's points gap is too big with Marseille & AS Monaco, in your opinion, is there a big possibility that PSG will fail to win the Ligue 1 title this season?

Competition is natural but about Monaco, of course they still target three points of course to maintain their position in the top three and of course, to keep their hopes of overtaking Marseille. Because even if for example Monaco managed to beat Nantes in this match, in fact Monaco would have the same points as Marseille with 33 points, but Monaco would still remain in third place because of losing aggressiveness of goals with Marseille. But about PSG, there is no need to doubt its dominance in Ligue 1, because until now no team in Ligue 1 has been able to thwart PSG's dominance in winning consecutive trophies.
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The first match for matchday 17 will be held today, it is a match between Nantes & AS Monaco. Briefly, we can find out which team is the favorite in this match. That is AS Monaco where they also have a clear objective to eliminate Marseille in second place in the Ligue 1 standings.

Talking about the Ligue 1 standings, PSG's points gap is too big with Marseille & AS Monaco, in your opinion, is there a big possibility that PSG will fail to win the Ligue 1 title this season?
Few hours later the opening match for games week 17 will begin between Nantes vs AS Monaco, have bad capital for AS Monaco at last match after defeating by PSG although the match play have been last several weeks ago.
Nantes still fight out from the relegation standings position have positive result last match after success being draw against Lille and have one point left get out from relegated standings. I think the match today will be interested for Monaco keep existing at the top standings position and other side Nantes want secure their position in Ligue 1 next season by getting out from relegation standings.

I don't think too big with points difference at current standings of Ligue 1, PSG have 7 points remaining awhile from Marseille but the top fourth standings teams can't compete to pressure PSG behind have many points remaining awhile. AS Monaco currently at 3rd place have 10 points left from PSG and this season looks not difficult for defending Ligue 1 trophy back to back four consecutives season.

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PSG rarely experience competition in Ligue 1, as soon as they have some more or less worthy opponent, they immediately sell their players and become uncompetitive the next season, because for them it is just a business. And PSG sets completely different goals, they strive to win all the tournaments, only with the Champions League they have difficulties. Now Enrique will try to strengthen the attack of PSG, maybe he will succeed if they make several good transfers, but even without this no one will overtake them in Ligue 1.
It will take a new force like Munich experienced last season in the Bundesliga to break PSG dominance in Ligue 1, so far some of their rivals have started to show improved performance, but overall they have not been completely consistent in maintaining their performance. It is certain that PSG will win the domestic competition again, but when it comes to the UCL, hopes are still very far from reality.
Enrique must strengthen his team to compete at the highest level, perhaps next season there will be signs of improved performance after bringing in several new quality players.
I think the competition in ligue 1 is actually lower than what happened in the bundesliga so far, so we can't expect other teams in ligue 1 to be able to do the same thing as leverkusen did last season, Although currently Monaco and Marseille has strengthened their squad and even I think they are have the strength and quality of the squad is equivalent with PSG, but precisely their mentality is still a big obstacle to breaking PSG dominance in Ligue 1, we can see how they actually can be defeated by weaker teams and not just by PSG this season.
Currently PSG has led the standings with 7 points ahead of Marseille, so it is difficult to see other teams can win Ligue 1 this season, talking about UCL, when Messi, Neymar and Mbappe failed to bring PSG champions, then what kind of player are we expected can to bring PSG championsip?
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PSG got their first trophy of the season 5 days ago. They beat Monaco in the French Super Cup finale by 1-0 by playing really dominant you know. I didn't expect a surprising result there though.  Grin

Most probably they will add Coupe de France trophy to their museum as well unless we see a big surprise. It is like PSG can do treble every year together with the Ligue 1 trophy. They can do it comfortably at the same time.

But the fans want more than this. Like the Champions League trophy. But does anyone believe in them to do so at least this season? I think even PSG fans have huge doubts about it while their team are struggling to throw themselves into playoffs.  Sad

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I don't think any other team will compete with PSG for the Ligue 1 title this season. Marseille and Monaco played very well at the beginning of the season. But both of these teams are now far behind. Marseille is 7 points behind PSG and Monaco is 10 points behind. It will not be possible for these teams to close such a big gap. Moreover, Monaco and Marseille's performance is not consistent.

Although PSG has lost points in a few matches, PSG is still undefeated in Ligue 1. Now Luis Enrique's goal is to do well in the Champions League. So maybe PSG may lose points in a few more matches in Ligue 1. However, PSG will not suffer much from this. PSG will win the Ligue 1 title this season as well.
PSG rarely experience competition in Ligue 1, as soon as they have some more or less worthy opponent, they immediately sell their players and become uncompetitive the next season, because for them it is just a business. And PSG sets completely different goals, they strive to win all the tournaments, only with the Champions League they have difficulties. Now Enrique will try to strengthen the attack of PSG, maybe he will succeed if they make several good transfers, but even without this no one will overtake them in Ligue 1.
That's right. Ligue 1 is dominated by PSG because other teams sometimes only think about business or because of unstable finances so they often sell players who have potential. So if you want Ligue 1 to be competitive, there must be someone who can compete with PSG in terms of finances. The transfer market in the French League is focused on only one team so that its abilities are not evenly distributed unlike the English, Italian and Spanish Leagues. In addition, the French League clubs are not trained by great coaches who can make the clubs competitive. Just look at the composition of coaches in the French League 1 which is rarely occupied by top coaches, as a result only PSG always dominates League 1.

If asked why PSG finds it difficult to become Champions League champions. This goes back to the explanation above because their league is not competitive so when PSG plays in the Champions League they do not have the fighting spirit and do not have the mentality because in League 1 they do not need that, they are too dominant, no team is able to compete with them.

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But the fans want more than this. Like the Champions League trophy. But does anyone believe in them to do so at least this season? I think even PSG fans have huge doubts about it while their team are struggling to throw themselves into playoffs.  Sad
Maybe winning the treble winner will be one of PSG outlets when they failed to win the UCL title.
Of course, fans really hope that PSG will win the UCL title and if they lose the title in several competitions, fans will not have a problem with it. Because it would be better to prioritize 1 match to keep the players physically fit to appear stronger in the UCL.
Unfortunately, PSG continues to pursue other competitions to get a collection of trophies and does not seem to take the UCL match seriously. So PSG'sappearance looks bad in the UCL because in any case the players are still tired of appearing in all competitions.

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