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July 13, 2021, 07:52:38 AM |
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I have the impression that if they wrote which ToS rule was broken, many people on this forum would consider it a lie or too laconic information and the witch-hunt would continue. Unfortunately, we will never be sure whether the author of the accusation is actually a victim of a mistake or a real scammer.
The more important thing is that they never disclose to a user about which terms has broken by the users. In this case no one officially can understand either the user really broke the terms and conditions or not. To make it more clear they should clearly mention the terms and conditions which the user violated.
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1xbit_official (OP)
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July 13, 2021, 09:02:56 AM |
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Haunebu
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July 13, 2021, 02:36:24 PM |
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That there are complaints, even though they are being resolved.
If it was just 2 or 3 red tags, it would have meant that your site is unreliable, but that could change in the future. However, there are many red tags given at different periods which indicates that your site will always be a scam site. This is similar to a ponzi scheme. You are basically resolving a couple of complaints here and there in order to make it seem like your site is legit, but it's just a strategy to earn huge profits through scamming in the long-term. Your infinite excuses won't change the fact that you guys are fraudsters and should never be trusted.
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1xbit_official (OP)
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July 13, 2021, 03:04:32 PM |
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This is similar to a ponzi scheme. You are basically resolving a couple of complaints here and there in order to make it seem like your site is legit, but it's just a strategy to earn huge profits through scamming in the long-term.
There is a post in our signature with list of resolved cases - about a half of them have a sum mentioned. That's the sum that was paid to the OPs of the accusations, and this sum exceeds 6 BTC to the day. Also, the site runs for 5+ years. Quite a long term for a ponzi scheme. Have you checked our review thread? It seems like most of the people haven't seen it yet. Sincerely, 1xBit team
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Haunebu
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July 13, 2021, 06:25:24 PM |
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That's the sum that was paid to the OPs of the accusations, and this sum exceeds 6 BTC to the day.
Also, the site runs for 5+ years. Quite a long term for a ponzi scheme.
You may be right about the 6 BTC part, but you are neglecting the fact that the amount that you guys scammed from gamblers is way higher in comparison. Also, I have seen several ponzi schemes that managed to run successfully for several years(Ex: Bitconnect etc). Have you checked our review thread? It seems like most of the people haven't seen it yet. Your review thread is mostly filled with negative reviews against your site.
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SimpleMachin34
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July 13, 2021, 10:24:10 PM |
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Our security team has checked your account and find out a violation committed by the player. Having multiple accounts to circumvent the ToS in particular. In that case we recalculate bets placed on all of his accounts 1:1, and the final balance in your specific case is negative. Which means you have already withdrawn an amount bigger than the amount of your deposits. Since wins were received in an unsportsmanlike way, the account was closed to prevent further damage. Your account is still in profit after all. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339885.msg57422075#msg57422075So different clients different measures? You stated before that you confirm I have multiple accounts so why can't I get my funds as others? Where is my deposit sum refund? There you find an affirmation saying Odds in all my accounts were recalculated. I'm asking where are my funds, because I already proved I didn't got my deposit sum providing my btc wallet.
You confirmed the violation of the ToS in this exact message. Bets were recalculated, but if the bet was lost - it can't bring a positive balance in the end. We do not restore lost bets just because they didn't win. Any info?
We see that you have multiple accounts made in order to circumvent the ToS. The total sum of withdrawn funds exceeds the deposited amount, and since the winnings weren't received in a fair way - we reserve the right to stop cooperation. Sincerely, 1xBit team Please explain me... Thanks.
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July 13, 2021, 10:41:46 PM |
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We all already know it but are you confirming 1xbit are scammers? It certainly seems that way from what you wrote This is similar to a ponzi scheme. You are basically resolving a couple of complaints here and there in order to make it seem like your site is legit, but it's just a strategy to earn huge profits through scamming in the long-term.
There is a post in our signature with list of resolved cases - about a half of them have a sum mentioned. That's the sum that was paid to the OPs of the accusations, and this sum exceeds 6 BTC to the day. Also, the site runs for 5+ years. Quite a long term for a ponzi scheme. Have you checked our review thread? It seems like most of the people haven't seen it yet. Sincerely, 1xBit team
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July 14, 2021, 02:50:24 AM |
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Our security team has checked your account and find out a violation committed by the player. Having multiple accounts to circumvent the ToS in particular. In that case we recalculate bets placed on all of his accounts 1:1, and the final balance in your specific case is negative. Which means you have already withdrawn an amount bigger than the amount of your deposits. Since wins were received in an unsportsmanlike way, the account was closed to prevent further damage. Your account is still in profit after all. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339885.msg57422075#msg57422075So different clients different measures? You stated before that you confirm I have multiple accounts so why can't I get my funds as others? Where is my deposit sum refund? There you find an affirmation saying Odds in all my accounts were recalculated. I'm asking where are my funds, because I already proved I didn't got my deposit sum providing my btc wallet.
You confirmed the violation of the ToS in this exact message. Bets were recalculated, but if the bet was lost - it can't bring a positive balance in the end. We do not restore lost bets just because they didn't win. Any info?
We see that you have multiple accounts made in order to circumvent the ToS. The total sum of withdrawn funds exceeds the deposited amount, and since the winnings weren't received in a fair way - we reserve the right to stop cooperation. Sincerely, 1xBit team Please explain me... Thanks. Simple explanation mate , "You have Been Scammed" that is the simplest and the best explanation you will ever get from this because you will never get what you wanted to ask.
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July 14, 2021, 09:30:36 AM |
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Why is it I have this feeling that all the accusations that they posted resolved are not satisfying to complainants I don't see any complainants posting that they have resolved their issues and they are satisfied with the results, or I just missed those posts, it will take months before they resolve all the remaining issues or complaints because there are so many of them.
This is probably because a large number of these problematic situations have been resolved by returning only the deposit and not the entire amount with winnings. From what I understood, this is a friendly solution that should satisfy both parties, but those who won large amounts probably do not like it very much.
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July 14, 2021, 10:48:45 AM |
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1xbit_official (OP)
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July 14, 2021, 11:22:40 AM |
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As I have already shown here, the majority of these reviews are fake, written by a few shills with their alt accounts. There are a lot of reviews posted by users with no negative trust or with a trust for wearing 1xBit signature only. And the amount of such reviews is about 50%. Still, there are only 2 negative reviews in total. Sincerely, 1xBit team
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July 14, 2021, 12:04:31 PM |
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July 14, 2021, 12:09:11 PM |
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That's the sum that was paid to the OPs of the accusations, and this sum exceeds 6 BTC to the day.
Also, the site runs for 5+ years. Quite a long term for a ponzi scheme.
You may be right about the 6 BTC part, but you are neglecting the fact that the amount that you guys scammed from gamblers is way higher in comparison. Also, I have seen several ponzi schemes that managed to run successfully for several years(Ex: Bitconnect etc). I hope you realize that what you are writing is only made in your imagination and has nothing to do with what is really happening. I understand that you may be frustrated by a loss in casino, a long wait for a case to be resolved, or even that your problem is negatively resolved, but comparing any casino to a ponzi scheme is an abuse or, at the very least, frivolous behavior and have nothing to do with reality.
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SimpleMachin34
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July 14, 2021, 12:36:06 PM |
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Our security team has checked your account and find out a violation committed by the player. Having multiple accounts to circumvent the ToS in particular. In that case we recalculate bets placed on all of his accounts 1:1, and the final balance in your specific case is negative. Which means you have already withdrawn an amount bigger than the amount of your deposits. Since wins were received in an unsportsmanlike way, the account was closed to prevent further damage. Your account is still in profit after all. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339885.msg57422075#msg57422075So different clients different measures? You stated before that you confirm I have multiple accounts so why can't I get my funds as others? Where is my deposit sum refund? There you find an affirmation saying Odds in all my accounts were recalculated. I'm asking where are my funds, because I already proved I didn't got my deposit sum providing my btc wallet.
You confirmed the violation of the ToS in this exact message. Bets were recalculated, but if the bet was lost - it can't bring a positive balance in the end. We do not restore lost bets just because they didn't win. Any info?
We see that you have multiple accounts made in order to circumvent the ToS. The total sum of withdrawn funds exceeds the deposited amount, and since the winnings weren't received in a fair way - we reserve the right to stop cooperation. Sincerely, 1xBit team Please explain me... Thanks. Hello? can you solve this paradox? You say in case the accounts are closed due to multiaccount all bets are resettled and deposit sum is returned. You closed my accounts because of that and no refund was processed so far. I deposited more than I withdrew. ...
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July 14, 2021, 12:53:34 PM |
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what about my issue?
Hello nerkolac, your complaint has been added to the investigation queue, and now being reviewed. We will post the answer as soon as we have any. Sincerely, 1xBit team hi what about my issue?
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July 14, 2021, 01:11:19 PM Last edit: July 14, 2021, 02:10:46 PM by Naficopa |
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what about my issue?
Hello nerkolac, your complaint has been added to the investigation queue, and now being reviewed. We will post the answer as soon as we have any. Sincerely, 1xBit team hi what about my issue? Let me answer for support. Your issue is waiting in the queue to be investigated and resolved. Unfortunately, as far as I know, in most industries, the company has up to 30 days to respond to a complaint, so I'm afraid you need to be patient. e: ..and the answer comes below..
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1xbit_official (OP)
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July 14, 2021, 01:52:03 PM |
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hi what about my issue?
Hello nerkolac, reply from the security team just has been received: As it was said in the email, cooperation with your account was stopped, and player has already received a refund. Refund means one of the following conditions: - sum of all withdrawals was deducted from the deposits, and the final balance was freed for withdrawal. - withdrawal sum already exceeds the deposited one, and thus, refund is not required. In both ways your accounts remains in profit. Winnings are being returned to the bookmaker since they weren't received in a fair way. Hello? can you solve this paradox?
There is no paradox, your account doesn't have any balance because the player lost playing with it. Sincerely, 1xBit team
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July 14, 2021, 02:27:47 PM |
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July 14, 2021, 02:57:18 PM |
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hi what about my issue?
Hello nerkolac, reply from the security team just has been received: As it was said in the email, cooperation with your account was stopped, and player has already received a refund. Refund means one of the following conditions: - sum of all withdrawals was deducted from the deposits, and the final balance was freed for withdrawal. - withdrawal sum already exceeds the deposited one, and thus, refund is not required. In both ways your accounts remains in profit. Winnings are being returned to the bookmaker since they weren't received in a fair way. Hello? can you solve this paradox?
There is no paradox, your account doesn't have any balance because the player lost playing with it. Sincerely, 1xBit team So didn't you recalculate my bets as you did to all the other members? why did you say so? I have 2 accounts in order to circunvent the first deposit bonus, so you closed my accounts and you toke my balance? You told me this before: Any updates? My account is duplicated so I was supposed to be able to withdraw my deposit sum accordingly to your rules. Thanks
Hello, Duplication is prohibited only in order to circumvent the ToS. Having multiple accounts for a fair game is not punished. Account №273497875 has been suspended. Odds on all your accounts were recalculated 1:1, and the final balance is equaled 0 or negative. Which means the player have already withdrawn all of his deposits. Sincerely, 1xBit team So you open two accounts at same time: Account1 & Account2 and deposit 1BTC each. You made two bets on same market in both accounts with opposite outcomes imagine a Tennis Game. Federer vs Nadal, lets say odds 1.87 for both. Account1 -> Federer wins all in (you can get 1.87BTC) Account2 -> Nadal wins all in (you can get 1.87BTC) Nadal wins so Account1 balance is 0, Account2 balance is 1.87. I made that multiple times, so I have won and lost bets in my two accounts obviously. You closed my accounts and you told as you can see that odds were recalculated 1:1. So you basically only cancelled the Won bets in each of my accounts is this right? Why did you cancel the wining bets only? even the lost ones were made to circunvent the rules. This way you toke all my deposits, do you understand? I'm RED not neutral because of that. In previous scenario, you are saying that in that case I'm able to withdraw 1BTC (because you recalculate only the winning bet) but I deposited 2BTC do you get it now?
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