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[Naficopa]

You are giving an answer to a question I did not.

What has got to do with the name and address of the owner/operator of 1xbit being kept private so that victims cannot start litigation against them?

What is the name of the owner/operate of the 1xbit website? This is deliberately not stated on the website but victims have a right to know who to take to Court in order to get their money back.

What is the name of the owner/operate of the 1xbit website? This is deliberately not stated on the website but victims have a right to know who to take to Court in order to get their money back.

1xBit is based on the anonymity principle and do not require from player any info to process a withdrawal (even an email).
This is the main feature of 1xBit with the following pros and cons, which is promoted on most of the ad assets. If that's not the something a player look for - he is free to choose anything else he wants.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

I don't think the only way for law enforcement agencies to find a website owner is to know his name. I'm sure they have technical ways to do this. Of course, they must first have a reason to use them.
If this website wants to remain anonymous, it's up to them. You received the answer and accept it.

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[JollyGood]

Instead of posting walls of text to deflect, can you give an answer to the question I asked?

What is the name of the owner/operate of the 1xbit website? This is deliberately not stated on the website but victims have a right to know who to take to Court in order to get their money back.

What is the name of the owner/operate of the 1xbit website? This is deliberately not stated on the website but victims have a right to know who to take to Court in order to get their money back.

1xBit is based on the anonymity principle and do not require from player any info to process a withdrawal (even an email).
This is the main feature of 1xBit with the following pros and cons, which is promoted on most of the ad assets. If that's not the something a player look for - he is free to choose anything else he wants.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

[Naficopa]

Instead of posting walls of text to deflect, can you give an answer to the question I asked?

What is the name of the owner/operate of the 1xbit website? This is deliberately not stated on the website but victims have a right to know who to take to Court in order to get their money back.

What is the name of the owner/operate of the 1xbit website? This is deliberately not stated on the website but victims have a right to know who to take to Court in order to get their money back.

1xBit is based on the anonymity principle and do not require from player any info to process a withdrawal (even an email).
This is the main feature of 1xBit with the following pros and cons, which is promoted on most of the ad assets. If that's not the something a player look for - he is free to choose anything else he wants.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

If someone feels cheated by any website, he must report it to the appropriate law services (name of website is enough). As I wrote earlier, they have technical ways to find out who owns a website. If they found Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, then everything else is a piece of cake.
Instead of posting walls of text and spam this thread with one and this same question, accept that this platform is operating anonymous.

[JollyGood]

Still waiting for a reply from 1xbit to my earlier question...

[Naficopa]

Still waiting for a reply from 1xbit to my earlier question...

It looks like you missed the answer:

1xBit is based on the anonymity principle ...

Sincerely,
1xBit team

Explanation of the word "anonymity" from Wikipedia:

Anonymity - describes situations where the acting person's identity is unknown.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymity

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

[Haunebu]

So everything you wrote is just guessing and you have no proof that 1xbit and 1xbet have anything in common except a similar name and software purchased from the same company, i.e. betb2b.

True, but this isn't the only common aspect between 1xbit and 1xbet. Check these links out.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/go3hlq/1xbet_global_scam_piracy_fraud_and_money/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.0

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

You aren't really qualified to call him a spammer. Reflect on yourself first. Also, 1xbit will always stay anonymous obviously since they would get royally screwed by some victims if they reveal themselves.

[shasan]

If someone feels cheated by any website, he must report it to the appropriate law services (name of website is enough). As I wrote earlier, they have technical ways to find out who owns a website. If they found Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, then everything else is a piece of cake.
Instead of posting walls of text and spam this thread with one and this same question, accept that this platform is operating anonymous.

You are talking as like as the owner of the website and you have taken part of a well known scammer. Those person who has has been scammed, amount might not be high and it is not easy to everybody to take legal action.

[decodx]

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

Could you please clarify if that applies to players as well? Are you saying there is no KYC on 1xbit/1xbet platforms?

[kontrakwel]

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

Could you please clarify if that applies to players as well? Are you saying there is no KYC on 1xbit/1xbet platforms?

1xbit is blatant scam and lie, do not deposit on this site.
When you win, they void all your bets and steal your winnings.
SCAM ALERT

[Naficopa]

So everything you wrote is just guessing and you have no proof that 1xbit and 1xbet have anything in common except a similar name and software purchased from the same company, i.e. betb2b.

True, but this isn't the only common aspect between 1xbit and 1xbet. Check these links out.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/go3hlq/1xbet_global_scam_piracy_fraud_and_money/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.0

I checked links and there is no proof only guessings. The only thing that is confirmed there is that 1xbit use software from betb2b as many other bookmakers and casinos.

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

You aren't really qualified to call him a spammer. Reflect on yourself first. Also, 1xbit will always stay anonymous obviously since they would get royally screwed by some victims if they reveal themselves.

He get an answer, is in it? Do you think I am a spammer?

If someone feels cheated by any website, he must report it to the appropriate law services (name of website is enough). As I wrote earlier, they have technical ways to find out who owns a website. If they found Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, then everything else is a piece of cake.
Instead of posting walls of text and spam this thread with one and this same question, accept that this platform is operating anonymous.

You are talking as like as the owner of the website and you have taken part of a well known scammer. Those person who has has been scammed, amount might not be high and it is not easy to everybody to take legal action.

This person who is spamming this thread is talking about 0.55 BTC, so around $24000 right now. Is it little amount in your opinion?

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

Could you please clarify if that applies to players as well? Are you saying there is no KYC on 1xbit/1xbet platforms?

I'm not saying that, it is official statement of 1xBit support:

1xBit is based on the anonymity principle and do not require from player any info to process a withdrawal (even an email).

[kontrakwel]

In this case, it means that you will not get the name of the 1xbit paltform owner (because is anonymous).
Now you can stop spamming and move on.

Could you please clarify if that applies to players as well? Are you saying there is no KYC on 1xbit/1xbet platforms?

1xbit is blatant scam and lie, do not deposit on this site.
When you win, they void all your bets and steal your winnings.
SCAM ALERT

1xbit steal 0.55 BTC from my account and refuses to provide evidence, because there is not any.
I want to warn everybody not to deposit here. If you lose, everything is ok.
When you win, they will write to you that you violate the terms and void all your wins and steal your balance

[decodx]

Could you please clarify if that applies to players as well? Are you saying there is no KYC on 1xbit/1xbet platforms?

I'm not saying that, it is official statement of 1xBit support:

1xBit is based on the anonymity principle and do not require from player any info to process a withdrawal (even an email).

This is obviously a lie on their part and, if they are lying about this, then they cannot be trusted about anything.

This is from their terms of use:

In accordance with the internal AML procedures the Company performs initial and ongoing personal identity verification procedures as provided by the level of risk of each User.

• The company will ask you to provide the minimal information to confirm your identity.
• The company will record and preserve all data and ID, as well as which methods of confirmation have been used and the results of verification procedures.
• The company will check your personal data to match the list of persons suspected of terrorism, which is formed by the authorized state and independent authorities. A minimum set of identification data includes: the User's full name; date of birth (for individuals); residential address or registered address of the User;
• sources of funds that you plan to Deposit into the account.

To verify and confirm the authenticity of the above-mentioned data, the Company may require the following documents:
passport or identification card, or other document equivalent that meets the following requirements:

• passport or identification card, or other document equivalent that meets the following requirements: contains the name, date of birth and a photograph of the document holder;
• issued by the national public authorities, a recently obtained receipt for the payment of utility bills (not older than 3 months) or other documents confirming the address of the User.

The company may also require other additional information, confirmed by relevant documents. In certain cases, the Company may also require not arised copies of documents from the User.

https://1xbit.com/information/rules/

It is funny how they call themselves "Company" even though there are no details online about the actual company.

[Erdogan]

This is obviously a lie on their part and, if they are lying about this, then they cannot be trusted about anything.

This is from their terms of use:

In accordance with the internal AML procedures the Company performs initial and ongoing personal identity verification procedures as provided by the level of risk of each User.

• The company will ask you to provide the minimal information to confirm your identity.
• The company will record and preserve all data and ID, as well as which methods of confirmation have been used and the results of verification procedures.
• The company will check your personal data to match the list of persons suspected of terrorism, which is formed by the authorized state and independent authorities. A minimum set of identification data includes: the User's full name; date of birth (for individuals); residential address or registered address of the User;
• sources of funds that you plan to Deposit into the account.

To verify and confirm the authenticity of the above-mentioned data, the Company may require the following documents:
passport or identification card, or other document equivalent that meets the following requirements:

• passport or identification card, or other document equivalent that meets the following requirements: contains the name, date of birth and a photograph of the document holder;
• issued by the national public authorities, a recently obtained receipt for the payment of utility bills (not older than 3 months) or other documents confirming the address of the User.

The company may also require other additional information, confirmed by relevant documents. In certain cases, the Company may also require not arised copies of documents from the User.

https://1xbit.com/information/rules/

You have cleverly manipulated this information, so you can not be trusted at all.

This is written before the text you quoted:

1xBit betting company carries out all appropriate measures to combat money laundering and international terrorism (AML Policy). Thus, the Company has a strong position to prevent all kinds of illegal activity. To fulfill these obligations, the Company is bound to inform competent authorities if there is a reason to suspect that funds which were deposited by the User into his account are related to illegal activity or terrorism financing. The company is also obliged to block such funds and to undertake measures provided for by the rules of the AML policy.

You may not know it, but all the money-dealing companies that operate legally are obligated to cooperate with authorities to prevent money laundering and international terrorism (AML). If it was not in the rules, then it would be a reason to suspect that there is something wrong.

It is funny how they call themselves "Company" even though there are no details online about the actual company.

If a company decides to act anonymously, it is logical that there is no information about it. It would be stupid to give that information and claim that they are acting anonymously, don't you think?

[1xbit_official]

This is from their terms of use:

This question was correctly answered by @Erdogan, but still we'd like to point out our previous answer on the same question:

You have copied the statements from "ANTI-MONEY LAUNDERING/COMBATING THE FINANCING OF TERRORISM" section of the rules.
It's quite hard for a user to get under those restrictions, especially when it comes to cryptocurrency, and we doubt that you've heard a single story about such terms being applied to a specific user.

But despite of this, the company collects the only information that a user provided itself, to start playing on 1xBit and withdrawal you don't need any info at all. And this applies to big amounts as well, as it seen from reviews and resolved complaints on this forum.

In addition, the identity can be confirmed not only by your ID, there are other ways to show your funds' background.

AML policy could be applied when it comes to enormous sums, and still funds will be restored once your identity wouldn't be found in public terrorist lists.

then they cannot be trusted about anything.

We thought that after winning in our contest you would have fewer doubts.

[FatFork]

So everything you wrote is just guessing and you have no proof that 1xbit and 1xbet have anything in common except a similar name and software purchased from the same company, i.e. betb2b.
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I'm afraid that's not entirely true. When faced with all the evidence, 1xbit_official clearly shifted their argument from "there is no official connection" to "we are using software developed by the same company", and finally "the same company set up our service from a to z". So, it's obvious that there is at least some connection between the two platforms, besides just having a similar name and using the same software.

Furthermore, as I have shown before, both platforms use the same identification meta tags, which proves beyond a doubt that the same entity manages them both from the backend. As I have stated numerous times, these meta tags have nothing to do with the software these companies are using. Verification meta tags are not provided by game providers or software developers, but by third-party services, such as Google, Microsoft, Yandex and Paysera. They are required in order to verify ownership of a domain (website) at those services, and are unique to every user.

Taking it a step further, in a topic linked by Haunebu, there is strong evidence that there is a connection between KawBet and 1xBit. Both platforms use the same wallets for crypto deposits, which can be easily verified.

In addition to the Bitshares wallet, the same wallets are also used for EOS and Stellar deposits, and I suspect for other cryptocurrencies as well.

Code:

Bitshares wallet username: x1bit
Eos wallet username: x1bitpaygate
Stellar: GD5X7UT6V2LQPQVORA7KRNYAW4LTZWN6R4M3M5UHSGM7YIYGBN67IYP5

The same wallets are used on the 1xBET platform as well. As a result, all payments on any of these platforms go to the same account, and the same company handles all deposits and withdrawals, and that is 1xBET.



Several other platforms (with a shady history) are also affiliated with the same group:

888STARZ - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250905.0
Cleobet - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237723.0
Pnxbet - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235201.0

And that's not all ...

Here is another one using the same bitshares deposit address:
https://casino-z.com/

edit: there are many more:
https://bet-1xsport.com/
https://lordbetting.com/
https://betwinner.com
https://melbet.com/
https://playwetten.com/
...

So, to summarize: they use the same software and the same game provider, matching third-party verification tags, matching deposit addresses and wallets, matching terms of use...
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ...

And lastly, for all those who are still in denial, here are some quotes from their previous representative on this forum (or the same person under a different name) which completely refute their more recent claims:

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.
But its separate team and the owners.

We are related. Its obvious))
We are using a lot of 1xbet.com functions, 1xbet using some ours.
But our team is separate and we'll develop a lot of new features soon.

[1xbit_official]

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You stated the sayings that don't contradict each other.

Both of 1xBit's representatives were stating that there is no official connection, and the teams are separated - and this statement wasn't ever doubted by any of us, and so it is in real life - these are separated teams.

And as you can see - there a lot of casinos using BitShares payment software, and BitShares is not the only payment solution - there are other companies using the other payment systems, not necessary a BitShares - and those systems have their own markers.

Still, all of it falls under the words we have stated previously about company who sets everything up.

In addition, this mark in the payments doesn't mean pretty much anything - it is given by many factors from the payment system operator to free public databases and etc.
And if we follow a common sense, why would a company hide/not hide such thing? It is seen for every user of their site when he makes a payment.

The answers to these questions are pretty obvious and don't have a shade.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

[1xbit_official]

Cardano and BNB are sharply ahead of USDT stablecoin in terms of capitalization (by $ 3.5 billion and 0.8 billion, respectively).
Still, you can use all of these coins at 1xBit.

[FatFork]

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You stated the sayings that don't contradict each other.

Both of 1xBit's representatives were stating that there is no official connection, and the teams are separated - and this statement wasn't ever doubted by any of us, and so it is in real life - these are separated teams.

That is simply not true. You explicitly claimed that there is no official connections between 1XBET and 1xbit.

There is no official connections between 1xBit and 1xBet.

While, your other representative stated:

We are related. Its obvious))
We are using a lot of 1xbet.com functions, 1xbet using some ours.
But our team is separate and we'll develop a lot of new features soon.

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.
But its separate team and the owners.

There is an obvious contradiction in these statements.

And as you can see - there a lot of casinos using BitShares payment software, and BitShares is not the only payment solution - there are other companies using the other payment systems, not necessary a BitShares - and those systems have their own markers.

Again, you are trying to dilute the argument with irrelevant information.
BitShares payment provider doesn't set up your account and deposit addresses, you do. The same goes for Eos and other wallets. The same marker means the same wallet. Who controls the private keys to those wallets? Where does the money go?

Still, all of it falls under the words we have stated previously about company who sets everything up.

So the company that set you all up controls your wallets and manages deposits and withdrawals?
That's what I've been saying all along! Thanks for finally admitting it. And that company is 1XBET (or 1X CORP, or whatever the current name is...)?

In addition, this mark in the payments doesn't mean pretty much anything - it is given by many factors from the payment system operator to free public databases and etc.

No, that's not true. The evidence in payment addresses matters a great deal. As the old saying goes, "When in doubt, follow the money." 

And if we follow a common sense, why would a company hide/not hide such thing? It is seen for every user of their site when he makes a payment.

Exactly. That's so obvious, I don't see the point in you trying to deny it. But, it's something only you can explain, I guess.

[kontrakwel]

@1xbit_official
Stop lying and pay me my money! i did not cheat and did not violate the rules.
Where is your proof? You keep ignoring to provide proof. Because you do not have any proof.

[shasan]

@1xbit_official
Stop lying and pay me my money! i did not cheat and did not violate the rules.
Where is your proof? You keep ignoring to provide proof. Because you do not have any proof.

You will not get any any payment from them, you should know very well that they are proven scammer. Better use your time somewhere else instead of asking the payment of you. It is not a fact either you have violated or not but they will scam it is the fact.