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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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Author Topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024  (Read 644778 times)
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December 24, 2023, 05:15:15 PM

I don't want to put all the blame on the coach. Players must also take responsibility and come to their senses. Chelsea is a big club but I don't think their players realize the size of this team.
Chelsea got players who look like they have a very bright future. I think the biggest problem is that Chelsea do not have senior players. There is no guidance for the young lads who just came into the club. The senior players teach young lads the culture of the club. Chelsea needs players with experience to lead the young lads. Chelsea may not finished above 8th position this season.

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December 24, 2023, 05:16:55 PM

I doubt they will make a big overhaul: Change coaches, sell some players, then buy more expensive players? Still what Chelsea are doing is still not finding space in their consistency, they don't seem to have confidence even though the club owner has invested a lot of money in players but most of the results are not satisfactory, is it because the Chelsea staff are still lacking in terms of training? At the moment it is clear they will not have any title race except the Carabao cup.
Because in the end something like this is not a guarantee for them because after all by looking at the current situation and the previous few seasons after the Todd era which often dismantled their players and did not hesitate to pour fund that were even very unreasonable for a club it did not have any impact on them, which in the end actually exacerbated the current situation.
Chelsea must start a new approach because the change of new coaches and players is not very effective. on the other hand, their young players also like Lavia, Caicedo or even Palmer are currently above average, it is actually just a matter of  strengthening motivation to several other players such as Nkunku who is injured and of course several other player.
But on the other hand to eliminate some players actually it can still also be done if indeed they feel it is not very useful and they should realize that until now Mudryk isnot  very useful for them and there must be special attention to this player.

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December 24, 2023, 05:22:15 PM

The first half of this game Chelsea has been pressing their opponent wolves but have failed to make good use of their chances.

Jackson need to work harder, he just need to learn how to convert his chances to goals, he should be very clinical and decisive in front of the goal post of their rival 18 yard box. Also Sterling gave up his own chances that would have put Chelsea in the lead in the game, the problem of Chelsea from what I have seen is not that they ain't good with the boll touches but they lack finishers to bring in the needed goals to give them the three points in almost every game.

Should they fail to make good use of prospective chances in the second half, at least wolves might suddenly take them by surprise and win this game with just a goal.

Is Raheem Sterling no longer a good finisher? He directly made Chelsea miss their best chance of leading in the first half of the game.
He had all the chances to pass the ball, chip over the Goalkeeper or send that ball into the left eof the goal post.
Jackson Nicholas Is a damn gambler, he should be used on the wings and not as a central forward. A player like his shouldn't be used for a big club like Chelsea.
Today's match what actually led to Chelsea loss was total greed by the players they were playing like a one man squad stead of a team play. Sterling, Broja and Jackson need to understand that it's a team work not an individual work for a goal to be achieved. I hope by January Pochetino would have realize and know players that deserves to be loan out and those that should stay because Chelsea is progressing one step forward and two steps backwards every weekend.

 At the moment there's no right sub to that position should he be used in the wing position. The attacking forward is what can be said to be a better spot for him right now maybe until the January transfer when a better striker can be brought to man the position as ought to be and Jackson be sent to wing side.

 
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You also have to praise the worthy, Wolverampton did well as they went to win today. This is not the first big team they have won at home this season, so I'm not mind blown seeing them win against Chelsea. ( Manchester City also lost two goals to one here. ) 
the outcome of the game at the full time was a deserving result for Wolves they thrust in a team spirited play and got it all right. Congrats to them 3 points grabbed.

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Pochetino also has got to be part of the issues with the club. He is not the man for Chelsea. How long should the fans keep trusting the process?
Am glad to see that somebody somewhere is also thinking in same direction direction sa I am. Pochetino is giving the team far below of what we had expected from him to deliver coming to Chelsea. Chelsea can continue giving him time but the more time he's giving the more deteriorating the performance of the team gets, there's no consistency, win a game today lose in the next game this has been the pattern throughout this season.

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December 24, 2023, 05:29:04 PM

It's very unfortunate that what happened to Aston Villa this week, they could have maximized a bigger opportunity to become leaders of the standings, but unfortunately they failed to win the match against the bottom team. I think the Aston Villa team was very confident and underestimated their opponents so they didn't get maximum results.
This was the perfect time to utilize the opportunity to be top of the league but they failed to utilize it. Arsenal and Liverpool faced themselves and draw the match and if Aston Villa was to have won they would have been at the top. I was so confident in them because of the way they play recently, they always manage to win when they play against top teams but they are not that consistent against smaller teams which is bad for a team that wants to challenge for the trophy. I guess this is the premier league and we are bound to see surprises every now and then.

The draw result in the Liverpool and Arsenal match was very fair, both teams have shown their best performance and indeed these two teams have almost the same strength so sharing the points this week is very fair.
Liverpool was the better team in my opinion, they had more goal scoring chances but failed to utilize it although both teams gave their best and the draw was fair. The game was an interesting one but let’s see which team can be consistent enough to maintain this performance till the end of the season.

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December 24, 2023, 05:31:23 PM

But on the other hand to eliminate some players actually it can still also be done if indeed they feel it is not very useful and they should realize that until now Mudryk isnot  very useful for them and there must be special attention to this player.
Although I quite agree with this but of course surely when doing some renewal back for some players in the end this must make Chelsea's finances drained again because after all with the purchase value for some players like Mudryk when he is released or maybe put on the sell list then it will indeed be very difficult to give a price especially indeed until now he is a player who can be said to be a flop at Chelsea.

The best possibility is to continue to try and improve with the existing squad without looking too much at the situation and giving targets for high standings because for now I think this will be very difficult to do but the problem is Chelsea we know is a big club and being in the middle or lower standings will not satisfy its fans but on the other hand trying to make some breakthroughs by overhauling current players or even coaches in the end this is also not the right choice for Chelsea.

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December 24, 2023, 05:35:30 PM

But on the other hand to eliminate some players actually it can still also be done if indeed they feel it is not very useful and they should realize that until now Mudryk isnot  very useful for them and there must be special attention to this player.
Although I quite agree with this but of course surely when doing some renewal back for some players in the end this must make Chelsea's finances drained again because after all with the purchase value for some players like Mudryk when he is released or maybe put on the sell list then it will indeed be very difficult to give a price especially indeed until now he is a player who can be said to be a flop at Chelsea.

The best possibility is to continue to try and improve with the existing squad without looking too much at the situation and giving targets for high standings because for now I think this will be very difficult to do but the problem is Chelsea we know is a big club and being in the middle or lower standings will not satisfy its fans but on the other hand trying to make some breakthroughs by overhauling current players or even coaches in the end this is also not the right choice for Chelsea.
That is a risk that must be borne and of course learning for Todd that he must start to be more selective and entrust more players to be bought to the coach so that the players who come are not in accordance with his will and desires because some of the players brought in by Chelsea at this time are at the will and desire of Todd who really feels that it is a player who matches his criteria but does not think about whether it is suitable or not for the club.
Not only Mudryk in this case but this also applies when Chelsea brought Enzo who did boldly bid at a high price but was confused about what to use at Chelsea because it did not really fit the scheme the coach wanted to use which made his performance not optimal.

Chelsea still can't get past their critical period and until now they are still trying to fight even if compared to last season this season there is a slight change but the public will not be satisfied with just achievements like this.

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December 24, 2023, 05:46:35 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
I have been saying it for long now that ETH deserves the the chance to finish the season before judging him. His first season at Manchester United was considered a success as he returned the club to top 4 and delivered a silverware for them. Let him strengthen the squad by January and let's see what happens from there.

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December 24, 2023, 05:48:44 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
Fans deserve to be disappointed with the poor results that Manchester United continues to achieve this season, Manchester United has been eliminated from the Champions League, and is now still a team that is having difficulty winning in the Premier League. Manchester United continued poor results have kept them stuck in 8th position, now they are 8 points behind Tottenham who are in fourth place. The increasingly competitive competition in the European zone this season has made it difficult for Manchester United to repeat their success last season when they finished in the top four.

Ten Hag will be under pressure if Manchester United fails to appear in European competition next season, but all decisions lie with the club management. Opportunities like Arteta at Arsenal and Klopp at Liverpool depend on management's patience with the results achieved by Manchester United. If Ten Hag can develop Manchester United's performance, he may still be part of Manchester United next season.

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December 24, 2023, 05:49:07 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
With ETH he first Gave the impression that he was capable when he was first brought to Manchester united where he did helped the team move from their very bad form the to getting to qualify for the champions league and finishing at the third position in the premier league with a very good point margin which made the fans have confidence in ten hag.

Earlier this season during the transfer windows, he did made decisions which have affected the team uptill date, earlier while making this decision to sell certain players it wasn't a welcome idea by the team and most fans but then he went on to carry out his bidding because he felt that was how best he can work and after all he still failed and he's yet to show any remose or trying to proffer solutions to the current issues rather he keeps getting issues with his players and gett the team in their worse shape by every passing game, so it's obvious they should let him go so that the team can make progress.

Since Ten Hag first arrived, many people had high expectations. But they forget that Ten Hag is a mediocre category coach.
I think his decisions in choosing players have also caused a lot of controversy, even though most of them are star players.

The inconsistency of MU's game is very difficult to accept because in fact they are one of the big teams. This can be seen when MU faces middle class teams and lower class teams.
It's different when they meet big teams like Man City or Liverpool, they can actually play better. Yes, even though the result is only a draw.

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December 24, 2023, 05:51:10 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
As the season progresses, it is looking like the problems of Manchester United is beyond single person, be it the coach or the player. I understand that it is convenient to blame the coach for the misfortune of the club but let's face the fact, a lot is wrong with the team. For instance, before now, their goalkeeper Andre Onana was the best the team could get but as of today it is looking like he is a very good goalkeeper when the ball is not place on the ground. I So, sacking the coach, Erik Ten Hag without sacking Onana is doing the job halfway. The entire defense line also need serious overhauling to reduce the pressure on the goalkeeper.


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December 24, 2023, 05:59:28 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
As the season progresses, it is looking like the problems of Manchester United is beyond single person, be it the coach or the player. I understand that it is convenient to blame the coach for the misfortune of the club but let's face the fact, a lot is wrong with the team. For instance, before now, their goalkeeper Andre Onana was the best the team could get but as of today it is looking like he is a very good goalkeeper when the ball is not place on the ground. I So, sacking the coach, Erik Ten Hag without sacking Onana is doing the job halfway. The entire defense line also need serious overhauling to reduce the pressure on the goalkeeper.



Erik ten Hag's mistake was choosing the wrong players in the last transfer window, so it is no wonder that he has failed to improve the team's performance with his selected players this season. So yes, Erik ten Hag is certainly the first person to be blamed for the poor performance and bad results so far this season. Although perhaps, Manchester United still give Erik ten Hag a chance but still, if his demands to enter the top four, clearly become an impossible achievement.

Because anyway, when Manchester United are still in sixth or seventh position, the reality is that fans remain dissatisfied. Therefore, it seems that the demands placed on Erik ten Hag are clearly a difficult task if they have to restore Manchester United back into at least the top five.

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December 24, 2023, 06:00:30 PM

Honestly, I can't say anything for Manchester United and maybe the only bad words I can say for this club. They failed, they were destroyed, and increasingly beyond help, I don't know what the right illustration is to describe Manchester United's situation to date. Surprisingly, Erik ten Hag is always confident when his team plays well and also thinks they should be able to win but they have to lose. I don't know what this coach is thinking and seem to suffer from hyperbole every time he makes a statement.

Manchester United had to languish in 8th position after being defeated by West Ham with 2 goals without reply and Rasmus Hojlund has appeared 14 times without goals and assists, he is the worst striker in the EPL so far. What Erik ten Hag thought in targeting his target players was that all of them had failed and up to now there has been no player who has had a big influence on the club.
I also see that Erik Ten Hag is too confident even though his team always loses, the only thing that can save Man United now is to find a new coach. Because for me, it's time for Man United to need a refreshing coach like Pep Guardiola/Kloop, don't bet on a young coach or one who has a good CV but his playing style is parking the bus.

Only fans who don't understand Man United's situation say there's no point in Man United changing coaches like before. For me, the conditions then and now are different. Man United with Erik Ten Hag will not change anything, it would be useless if given 1 century, Man United would still not improve. The coach before Erik Ten had never created such a disgraceful record for Man United this season under Erik Ten. This is not a problem of infertile players but an unclear playing system so they have difficulty scoring goals.

I will probably agree that there is actually no point in changing the coach right now. But at the same time, I don't think there is any point of having him to be honest. The decisions that he is making are absolutely dumb.  Right now it looks like this man alone is responsible for the downfall of Manchester United.  Of course, I might be a little bit exaggerating. But personally, I did not like any decision that he took from the start. And of course, I did not like him kicking out Ronaldo from the team. So I might be a little biased. But still, I think everyone can say that he's not the right man for the job. And if anyone thinks he is, he is absolutely on copium.

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December 24, 2023, 06:11:54 PM

As the season progresses, it is looking like the problems of Manchester United is beyond single person, be it the coach or the player. I understand that it is convenient to blame the coach for the misfortune of the club but let's face the fact, a lot is wrong with the team. For instance, before now, their goalkeeper Andre Onana was the best the team could get but as of today it is looking like he is a very good goalkeeper when the ball is not place on the ground. I So, sacking the coach, Erik Ten Hag without sacking Onana is doing the job halfway. The entire defense line also need serious overhauling to reduce the pressure on the goalkeeper.
The incompetency of the coach continually becomes obvious by the day and I think it's enough reason for him to be sacked, even if it's very obvious that the problem with the team is in too many facets but then starting with the Coach will be a good step to getting others alert and on their toes but if he remains the chances of improvement will definitely diminish.

The goal keep aswell should be sold I know the defense aswell have a shere in the blame but then I will blame the goal keeper more because he is their last line of defense and he has a better view of the activity on the pitch he can better advise his defenders on position to get the best of results alongside his cooperation but rather he is lousy and displays incompetence with so much of mediocrity, onaana  should Leve aswell as ten hag just that it will be challenging getting a better replacement at this time but then ten hag needs to leave

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December 24, 2023, 06:17:41 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs

Erik ten Hag had a really bad performance. Manchester United have had poor results under him. No one will be surprised if he is fired. But Manchester United have had problems about the managers for a very long time. Erik ten Hag is not their first. And if they fire Erik ten Hag from Manchester United and replace him with someone else, all the problems will not be solved at once. I think Manchester United have structural problems. And it's not an easy thing to solve.

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December 24, 2023, 06:20:27 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
What i don't think will happen is Manchester United firing Erik Ten Hag during this season, he would be allowed to finish the season as their manager, then at the end of the season the club will assess his performance and decide if he should stay or go, and if you ask me i think the decision should be that he should go. They are out of Europe, they cannot also win any competition that they are currently in, so i don't think the club is moving forward with the Dutch man as their manager.
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December 24, 2023, 06:39:35 PM

That is way too far into the future for Manchester United. If they ever want to take action to not waste the whole season and have enough time to correct a few things, the time has now come. If they wait until they have certainty that the season will end catastrophically, what convincing arguments do they have for a new and renowned coach to go to Manchester United? They will again be confronted with the problem that they can find some mediocre guy who is willing to train a team that didn't qualify for the Europa League or the Champions League. If they want to save something, then give it a shot now and not in 5 months from now.
When Erik Ten Hag failed to bring MU to the champions league or to the UEL competition, I thought he could refocus on improving MU's performance in the premier league to prove that there was improvement and could make the fans still have hope for this club, but the fact was that yesterday against West Ham unable to hold a draw or beat their opponents and MU had to lose points again and with these few matches fans around the world are a little less confident in Erik Ten Hag but for some reason the management is still keeping him while Erik Ten Hag has failed in several seasons and this season has been really bad.
I really understand that perhaps replacing the coach may not necessarily be able to improve Manchester United, but if you don't try, how can you find out about this and in fact, at that time, I hoped that when the transfer market reopened, MU should be able to bring in quality players but also by bringing in a new coach to fix this ugliness and I am really sure that the source of this problem comes from Erik Ten Hag.

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December 24, 2023, 06:41:56 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
What i don't think will happen is Manchester United firing Erik Ten Hag during this season, he would be allowed to finish the season as their manager, then at the end of the season the club will assess his performance and decide if he should stay or go, and if you ask me i think the decision should be that he should go. They are out of Europe, they cannot also win any competition that they are currently in, so i don't think the club is moving forward with the Dutch man as their manager.
Eric Ten Hag is not a good coach and can't lead Manchester United to lifting a trophy and we have seen this from his poor management of the team. The players are fed up of him and they cannot wait for him to be sacked because he is not a professional coach.

Manchester united needs a big coach and not an average coach that will be thinking of the strategy that he needs to use to win matches instead of understanding the strategy that he can use to win his opponents by studying their previous games. He is gambling with the club and his decisions on an ongoing match is very poor. Let them allow him to finish this season so that he can be sacked with shame.

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December 24, 2023, 06:53:02 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
What i don't think will happen is Manchester United firing Erik Ten Hag during this season, he would be allowed to finish the season as their manager, then at the end of the season the club will assess his performance and decide if he should stay or go, and if you ask me i think the decision should be that he should go. They are out of Europe, they cannot also win any competition that they are currently in, so i don't think the club is moving forward with the Dutch man as their manager.

I think Manutd vs Aston could be the last match for Ten Hag if Manutd lose again, look at this list:



Their performance at home really really bad, well if according to the list above they should win against Aston after 2 straight loses at home lol.

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December 24, 2023, 06:55:00 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
What i don't think will happen is Manchester United firing Erik Ten Hag during this season, he would be allowed to finish the season as their manager, then at the end of the season the club will assess his performance and decide if he should stay or go, and if you ask me i think the decision should be that he should go. They are out of Europe, they cannot also win any competition that they are currently in, so i don't think the club is moving forward with the Dutch man as their manager.
Like I've said before now, I think Erik Ten Hag is the luckiest employee in the world at the moment because I can't remember  the last time a big club like Manchester United had this kind of bad campaign and still refuse to sack their manager. His tactical approaches to important games this season has been very poor especially his choice of substitutions which in many occasions has caused the club defeats in games they were initially leading. I think its high time the club management gets rid of Erik Ten Hag and go get a manager that's more experienced than the Dutch man.

Former Real Madrid manager  Zinedine Zidane  is currently without a club and if Manchester United can convince him to sign for them, I don't think it'll be a bad idea  for the Old Trafford club

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December 24, 2023, 06:55:20 PM

Looks like Erik Ten Hag may lose his job in 2024. Looking at history of Manchester United, it’s understandable that the fans cannot stand the current mediocrity at the club. Judging by the performance of United this season, ETH deserves the sack so far but perhaps  Manchester United should be more patient just the way Arsenal gave to Mikel Arterta. Klopp first 3 years at Liverpool weren’t that great either. But they have progressed to do big things at their respective clubs
What i don't think will happen is Manchester United firing Erik Ten Hag during this season, he would be allowed to finish the season as their manager, then at the end of the season the club will assess his performance and decide if he should stay or go, and if you ask me i think the decision should be that he should go. They are out of Europe, they cannot also win any competition that they are currently in, so i don't think the club is moving forward with the Dutch man as their manager.
Well, I am not a Manchester united fan, so it's hard for me to know exactly what is going on wit the club, aside from the fact which is clear to everyone of us that they aren't really doing well, a the beginning of this premiere league season, I personally expected, or should I say that I anticipated that Manchester united will be one of the major contenders in this season, unfortunately, it currently appears that they even performed way better last season, than they have performed this season so far.

It is commonly said that moving forward is life, but moving backward is death, what we want us forwardness and not backwardness, if things aren't working for the club as expected and they feel the manager is the reason, then I think it's best for them to try another manager, and let the current one rest, Manchester united alongside Chelsea in those days used to be the top clubs, but right now, this two clubs are struggling really hard to make head ways.

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