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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
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November 09, 2022, 08:15:53 PM
Last edit: November 19, 2022, 03:20:49 PM by G_Besar
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Right, I also don't know the exact reason for Todd Boehly's sudden dismissal.
But indeed, when the sacking occurred Chelsea got a bad result, but the bad results obtained by Tuchel also did not happen for a long time. That is, the bad results that Tuchel got only occurred in a few matches which of course, Tuchel can still fix the problems that occur over time.

Now with a result like this, Todd Boehly should be able to accept it and must be able to put more trust in Potter. Because it's possible, when the transfer window opens, Potter will be able to build a team according to the more appropriate players to play in the strategy that Potter will use.
Even though Potter will have some new players in the future, I personally still don't believe Chelsea will return to the top four. Considering the team that are currently in the top five, I think maybe they will still have a chance to be there throughout the season.

Firing Tuchel and replacing him with Potter is actually not the right solution for Boehly. I'm sure Chelsea will suffer a setback and it will be very difficult to compete for the title.
Now Potter is starting to feel great pressure at Stamford Bridge. This happened after the Blues only won one game from the last five Premier League matches. Chelsea management will certainly regret its decision if the Blues have to finish outside the top four standings.

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Arsenal continues to be trailed by Manchester City with a slight difference in points, making Arsenal more determined to win in each of their matches, this is true because they were able to win with a very stunning appearance, therefore Arteta's troops are still solid.

Waiting for the Arsenal vs Manchester City match is still a long time I want to know which of them is the strongest and won it because Arsenal doesn't want to lose let alone Manchester City will try to overthrow it, I believe Arsenal's players will not experience a decline and injuries can still be prevented over the possibility by Arteta but if a lot of injuries occur it could possibly bring down Arsenal's performance.
So far Arsenal appear solid and able to get out of pressure even when they played against Chelsea some time ago. I almost thought the match would loss Arsenal points, but they performed brilliantly despite only narrowly winning 0-1.

So maybe it will be great to see who is the best in Arsenal vs Manchester City. This will be an opportunity for both teams to decide their fate, so it will be a very fierce competition for both of them later.
Well it will be a big game to look forward to. These two teams both have had a pretty good performance this season and have even swapped main places twice this season. for now Arsenal are 2 points ahead of manchester city and it is a very slim superiority. maybe if these two teams meet later I think Manchester City will be able to win this match because we know the goal machine from Manchester City is quite aggressive, namely Haaland. but previously the match between these two teams had been postponed some time ago due to the death of the queen of England. do you feel that the atmosphere of this match will trigger a more fierce game.

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November 09, 2022, 08:40:20 PM
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I Will still pick Tuchel over Graham Potter regardless, Seem you've forgotten that this was how Thomas Tuchel started his era with Chelsea too, and remember Potter hasn't won any Big team in the premier league since his take over as Chelsea's Boss to start getting this accolades. Not clear to me what Thomas Tuchel did wrong. just that he wasn't giving sometime after signing those new players to see if there was gonna be an improvement from the team. Which I do believe he would have still get the Chelsea's team going again.
Of course I don't forget how very successful Tuchel was in his first season by winning Chelsea the Champions League against Manchester City and several other titles. it was his best season at Chelsea, but anyway I never forget about it.

Tuchel himself was also unable to win an English Premier League title with Chelsea other than the 3 titles I remember during his career, that included 1 Champions League, 1 UEFA Super Cup, 1 Club World Cup. But Tuchel was more successful than Lampard and also Potter who replaced him at the moment.


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November 09, 2022, 08:50:55 PM
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Of course, Potter is not the best but he has made Chelsea better than Tuchel at the end of his career at Chelsea. I believe Chelsea will be good to keep the competition in the top four, Potter will be responsible for that this season.

I Will still pick Tuchel over Graham Potter regardless, Seem you've forgotten that this was how Thomas Tuchel started his era with Chelsea too, and remember Potter hasn't won any Big team in the premier league since his take over as Chelsea's Boss to start getting this accolades. Not clear to me what Thomas Tuchel did wrong. just that he wasn't giving sometime after signing those new players to see if there was gonna be an improvement from the team. Which I do believe he would have still get the Chelsea's team going again.
I'll pick Potter over Tuchel. Potter hasn't organised a team that still shambled in his hands. Tuchel has done that, there was when Chelsea team was strong, when Tuchel said he will make Chelsea fearful for any team to face. What happened to his plan. But Brighton that Potter put together are still strong till date even under another manager.
Forger big name and show results.

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November 09, 2022, 09:00:09 PM
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One thing coach fails to understand is that it's not an easy job to manage team like Chelsea and not all coach can fit in the shoes of manager. Chelsea have sack good managers in the past, like Jose Mourinho, Anthonio Conte, Sarri, Frank Lampard, Thomas Tuchel and now is Graham Potter. When you're no longer performing your duty as a coach, the fans will start booeing on the pitch and the owner will give you specific time to fix your job. That's exactly what's going on in Chelsea.

Remove Lampard from the list of good coaches, Lampard is not a good coach. A good player does not mean a good coach.
Lampard blew his chances in Chelsea when  he spent big money without results. Gradually he is sending Everton to relegation and he will continue to be praised.
Lamaprd is not a good coach.

For Graham Potter, he don't have defence. The likes of Fofana and Koulibaly are not available. Even in his midfield good players are missing. When he has a better squad he will do well.
Certainly you were a good player doesn't guarantee that you will also be a good coach. I think he is still having new experiences in the managerial role. He has quite a lot to learn and develop just like others and he is trying at the moment with Everton. Chelsea was a big club and big task for him to handle. I don't even blame him so much for not being able to deliver at Chelsea.

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November 09, 2022, 09:54:40 PM
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Gerrard indeed has failed on Aston Villa that he cannot fulfiled the management expectation and this makes him got sacked this season but talking about Gerrard achievement during his career as the manager it comes when he train to Rangers that Gerrard can bring this team to get Scotland league trophy even with unbeatable status even he has made a history on Rangers with achieved more than 100 points in 1 season so this proven he can being an good manager at the right club

This also makes Aston Villa to recruit him because they want Gerrard can be success at Aston Villa but i don't know why Aston Villa isn't suitable for his strategy and eventually this team always be playing poor under him but the current manager of Liverpool Klopp has been believe Gerrard will be great manager someday even at the press conference Klopp said if someday he leave Liverpool probably he will recomend Gerrard as his replacement
Stephen Gerrard is still a young coach and hasn't got so much experience as a manager so I won't be expecting so much change and impact when he joined Aston Villa but they improved to an extent during his stay at the club. His spell at Rangers was indeed a good one but as we all know that the EPL is a different experience and challenge.  Not every manager strives on their debut season in the premier league, many managers have been sacked too in the EPL.

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November 09, 2022, 09:59:16 PM
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Most good ex football players often think that they also manage the coaching well. We've seen it before in the EPL that it doesn't work that way. One after the other trainer is appointed and then fired again fairly quickly. I think the best coach in the EPL is Guardiola, but he also has great player material. I expected more from United. I don't know what influence the 3-1 defeat has, but I don't think the club management will just dismiss Ten Hag, he has only been working for just 2-3 months. And who else should be coaching United? Good coaches are scarce or are already with a good club.

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November 09, 2022, 10:18:55 PM
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Chelsea's weakness is not the only defense. The condition of their entire teams is now unstable. They are not playing well. Manchester City scored 39 goals in 13 matches, and Haaland probably scored 18 goals in 12 matches. On the other hand, Chelsea players scored only 17 goals in 13 matches. The performance of Chelsea's forward players is poor. They need more talented strikers. And it is crucial for the strikers to perform well if they want to stay on top of the Premier League table. Because every team here is strong. So if the attacking players do not perform well, it becomes difficult to score points in the match.
The problem with Chelsea now isn't just the defense, a lot is going on, they are changing managers faster than a bullet, their attack isn't so effective at the moment too. 17 goals in 13 games for the club isn't a good stat at all, Haaland alone has scored that much goals in this season no wonder epl fans want him gone. Chelsea's attack have also been poor this season and inefficient, they need to recruit more talented strikers in the team and a good number nine to improve their scoring rate.

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November 09, 2022, 10:23:03 PM
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I'll pick Potter over Tuchel. Potter hasn't organised a team that still shambled in his hands. Tuchel has done that, there was when Chelsea team was strong, when Tuchel said he will make Chelsea fearful for any team to face. What happened to his plan. But Brighton that Potter put together are still strong till date even under another manager.
Forger big name and show results.

Base on what I was previously saying that Potter hasn't won any Big team in the premier league at all , look at today's game against Manchester City, Potter has failed again to get 3 points from a big team, making it like about three times he is faced with big teams  Arsenal, Man United, and now Man City but couldn't get a win.

Unlike Tuchel, He's is good in winning big teams when he was in Chelsea as a coach, and this is one of the interesting thing about him and also interesting things in football, for fans to watch their clubs win big teams.

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November 09, 2022, 10:36:38 PM
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I hope this not out off topic. Arsenal lost 1-3 at home against Brighton. The game was an EFL competition. This defeat ensured they failed to advance in the next round. If you look at players, Arteta has a lot of reserve players to field. It looks like Arteta wants to increase the playing hours of reserve players and rest other players. This indicates Arteta doesn't really want to win in the EFL.

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November 09, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
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I'll pick Potter over Tuchel. Potter hasn't organised a team that still shambled in his hands. Tuchel has done that, there was when Chelsea team was strong, when Tuchel said he will make Chelsea fearful for any team to face. What happened to his plan. But Brighton that Potter put together are still strong till date even under another manager.
Forger big name and show results.

Base on what I was previously saying that Potter hasn't won any Big team in the premier league at all , look at today's game against Manchester City, Potter has failed again to get 3 points from a big team, making it like about three times he is faced with big teams  Arsenal, Man United, and now Man City but couldn't get a win.

Unlike Tuchel, He's is good in winning big teams when he was in Chelsea as a coach, and this is one of the interesting about him and also interesting things in football for fans to watch their clubs win big teams.

Graham Potter has made quite a positive impact taking over from Thomas Tuchel for Chelsea although he still has to improve continuously, it wouldn't be easy at the moment but it will definitely take time. Right now he needs the support of the club and the management to believe in him and support his project and see how well he will be able to improve the squad. Hopefully the January window will help in fixing the weaknesses of the squad.

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November 09, 2022, 10:57:27 PM
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I hope this not out off topic. Arsenal lost 1-3 at home against Brighton. The game was an EFL competition. This defeat ensured they failed to advance in the next round. If you look at players, Arteta has a lot of reserve players to field. It looks like Arteta wants to increase the playing hours of reserve players and rest other players. This indicates Arteta doesn't really want to win in the EFL.

The tram main focus now is to win the premier league title and this became very clear after today's match against Brighton, they have an match against wolves in less than 3 days and it seems reasonable that many reserve players play against Brighton in the EFL cup

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November 09, 2022, 11:03:40 PM
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Most good ex football players often think that they also manage the coaching well. We've seen before in the EPL that it doesn't work that way. One after the other trainer is appointed and then fired again fairly quickly. I think the best coach in the EPL is Guardiola, but he also has great player material. I expected more from United. I don't know what influence the 3-1 defeat has, but I don't think the club management will just dismiss Ten Hag, he has only been working for just 2-3 months. And who else should be coaching United? Good coaches are scarce or are already with a good club.
What most footballers failed to understand is that, because you are a very skilled player doesn't make tpu a good coach  there is a far difference between coaching and playing which is why most players, who become club coaches sometimes fail to deliver at coaching.

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November 09, 2022, 11:06:30 PM
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The Premier league is a very competitive league and so far this season only Arsenal have shown to be serious contenders and challengers against Manchester City. Though Manchester City are looking too strong against other EPL teams but they have lost a game and drawn twice this season to smaller teams so I won't be surprised if they draw or lose against Brentford in the next fixture.

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November 09, 2022, 11:07:56 PM
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One thing coach fails to understand is that it's not an easy job to manage team like Chelsea and not all coach can fit in the shoes of manager. Chelsea have sack good managers in the past, like Jose Mourinho, Anthonio Conte, Sarri, Frank Lampard, Thomas Tuchel and now is Graham Potter. When you're no longer performing your duty as a coach, the fans will start booeing on the pitch and the owner will give you specific time to fix your job. That's exactly what's going on in Chelsea.

Remove Lampard from the list of good coaches, Lampard is not a good coach. A good player does not mean a good coach.
Lampard blew his chances in Chelsea when  he spent big money without results. Gradually he is sending Everton to relegation and he will continue to be praised.
Lamaprd is not a good coach.

For Graham Potter, he don't have defence. The likes of Fofana and Koulibaly are not available. Even in his midfield good players are missing. When he has a better squad he will do well.
Certainly you were a good player doesn't guarantee that you will also be a good coach. I think he is still having new experiences in the managerial role. He has quite a lot to learn and develop just like others and he is trying at the moment with Everton. Chelsea was a big club and big task for him to handle. I don't even blame him so much for not being able to deliver at Chelsea.
He is the same like xavi. This time chelsea was loosing again with city in the curabao cup which has been telling us about lose streak that happened with chelsea, sacking tuchel was not become an answer to make the club become better again.
Lampard has no knowledge about being a coach but he has a good knowledge about how to pick the right player to be a potential player for chelsea. His place should not be on the coach but team management is far better for him.
The problem of chelsea seems never be fixed easily.

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November 09, 2022, 11:09:50 PM
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Graham Potter has made quite a positive impact taking over from Thomas Tuchel for Chelsea although he still has to improve continuously, it wouldn't be easy at the moment but it will definitely take time. Right now he needs the support of the club and the management to believe in him and support his project and see how well he will be able to improve the squad. Hopefully the January window will help in fixing the weaknesses of the squad.
The fact that Graham Potter took over Chelsea during the season may serve as some justification for the fact that the team's results, after a certain surge when the team was headed by a new coach, have now gone into some decline. It can be said that Potter had neither the time nor the opportunity to form a team to his liking this offseason. On the other hand, with some degree of conditionality, exactly the same can be said about Tuchel, given the conditions under which the German specialist had to finish the previous season and how hastily he had to conduct a transfer campaign this offseason. We can say that Potter shook up the team with his appointment, but this factor is gradually fading away and now other factors are starting to come to the fore, including those that hindered the team's results at the beginning of the season. And yes, now he will finally have time to make the necessary changes to the team's game.
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November 09, 2022, 11:17:02 PM
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I hope this not out off topic. Arsenal lost 1-3 at home against Brighton. The game was an EFL competition. This defeat ensured they failed to advance to the next round. If you look at players, Arteta has a lot of reserve players to field. It looks like Arteta wants to increase the playing hours of reserve players and the rest other players. This indicates Arteta doesn't really want to win in the EFL.
I looked at the table of the EFL Cup and well, quite surprising how Arsenal is defeated badly by Brighton 1 - 3 whereas they were playing at home. With this result, Arsenal was not qualified for the Carabao Cup. However, actually, Arsenal made many sots, but they were not accurate. Many chances were lost making by Arsenal. Although this is not the main competition in England, at least, this will also be a good motivation for all clubs to always perform. The defeat of Arsenal this time in the EFL Cup hopefully will not influence their performance in the EPL and also other competitions.

The problem with Chelsea now isn't just the defense, a lot is going on, they are changing managers faster than a bullet, their attack isn't so effective at the moment too.
Indeed, the problems in Chelsea are complex, like Barcelona in the previous season related to the squad. Here, we can be sure enough that Chelsea's performance is very not consistent, being lacking in every line. Although the coach has made a good strategy, in fact, sometimes it can't work in the field during the match. However, the strategy may not be developing much better during the match. This is sad to know this

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November 09, 2022, 11:19:12 PM
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The opening game of the week is going to be Manchester City - Brentford.

Manchester City had a really big problem on beating Fulham last week. Cancelo's red card made a big impact on it of course. Today they eliminated Chelsea in the EFL Cup by a 2-0 win. This would give an extra morale before their game up next. Brentford are still doing horrible. They can't get a win for 4 weeks in the league and Gillingham eliminated them in the EFL Cup by penalties as well. These combined are not good at all before a really tough game. I think Manchester City will destroy them.

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November 09, 2022, 11:38:28 PM
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Firing Tuchel and replacing him with Potter is actually not the right solution for Boehly. I'm sure Chelsea will suffer a setback and it will be very difficult to compete for the title.
I agree that the decision to fire Tuchel seems too hasty, but they already did it. Now, they must focus on the current coach and forget Tuchel. In my opinion, Chelsea should be more patient to give more opportunities for Potter. It won't be a good idea to fire Potter too.

For me, the problem isn't about the coach but the squad. Chelsea has lost the power on the defense and midfield lines, they must plan to buy some strong players to reconstruct these lines. I think Chelsea management must focus on making a list of targetted players to buy in the next transfer window. It is what they can do now.

Chelsea management will certainly regret its decision if the Blues have to finish outside the top four standings.
In theory, Chelsea still has a chance to return to the top 5. But it depends on the players and the coach whether they can improve their performance or not.



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November 09, 2022, 11:44:48 PM
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Most good ex football players often think that they also manage the coaching well. We've seen it before in the EPL that it doesn't work that way. One after the other trainer is appointed and then fired again fairly quickly. I think the best coach in the EPL is Guardiola, but he also has great player material. I expected more from United. I don't know what influence the 3-1 defeat has, but I don't think the club management will just dismiss Ten Hag, he has only been working for just 2-3 months. And who else should be coaching United? Good coaches are scarce or are already with a good club.

It was not the plan to expect more from Man United if youre a Man United fan Ten Hag promised to bring back glory days to Man United but those fans thinks that will be done in half a session or season even Pep Guardiola had a build up for a season entering the third until he had a perfect squad for City. Ten Hag Needs improvement and quality or this same circle vwill continue. I wan to see the response he gives Aston Villa tommorow
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