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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 183

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November 14, 2022, 04:33:04 PM
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There is not too much to talk about Chelsea indeed. They are in a horrible shape and the biggest reasons are obvious already:

- Wrong tactical choices and game plan by Graham Potter
- Struggling with scoring goals

The first one can be solved by Potter easily in fact. He is going to have a lot of time to think about where he is doing wrong and to fix things after. He was doing really great with Brighton actually. But he is still unable to find the right strategies for Chelsea. He hasn't had a big team experience so far. Maybe that's why.

When it comes to the scoring problem, it can be fixed by making a transfer in January. Maybe it is more difficult to find a solid striker in the middle of the season. But they can still use the advantage of being one of the prominent teams.

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November 14, 2022, 05:07:07 PM
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I still don't believe Newcastle break the nomination of Chelsea and Liverpool in almost half of the session. I don't expect they can be like this because in summer windows transfer before, they sound not loud noise like Liverpool, Chelsea and MU. As I can see nothing is really stands out on squad, it seems that all squads are compact, there are no gap even not many popular player on there. I think those club must follow in what newcastle did, they all struggle without any selfish between the squad.

I followed this club, after he owned Arab through Mohammed bin Salman they did not make crazy transfers. At least this proves that money is not the main factor in obtaining achievements. Howe as manager seems smart enough to make Newcastle play together not relying on one of the best players. But I don't know if they have to play in Europe later. At the moment they don't have much fixtures as they only play in England. Maybe if they play in Europe, they need a lot of players of even quality.
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November 14, 2022, 05:17:55 PM
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The chance is still there, but it's very slim, this season there are several teams that have managed to add to the competition in the top four positions. Arsenal and Newcastle have enlivened the competition with impressive performances shown since the start of the season, Arsenal managed to sit in first place by breaking the dominance of Manchester City. Meanwhile, Newcastle have appeared extraordinary this season which has made them successful in third place.

Tottenham, Manchester United, Liverpool and Brighton are above Chelsea, there is still a lot for Chelsea to do to get into the top four. Potter has not been able to fulfill the hopes of Chelsea's owners, defeats in the last few matches have made Chelsea slump to eighth place. It took a consistent struggle for Chelsea to get past several teams that were above it, with the more teams that occupy the top four positions the less chance Chelsea have to re-enter the UCL zone.
Chelsea improved after Potter was appointed as coach, but in fact Potter cannot be immediately expected to be able to make Chelsea appear consistent and win all the matches they play. That's a tough expectation for any coach, but let the process take its course and see how the team gets back on track after the coach and his staff evaluate his team.

I don't think Chelsea are starting to lose hope of ending this season in the Champions League zone. Even if their recent form has been lacking, there are plenty of opportunities to improve after the World Cup break. Chelsea is a good team, but the tough competition in the Premier League will never be easy for any team to reach their final target.

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November 14, 2022, 05:37:19 PM
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I don't blame Chelsea for their poor performance this season because Chelsea have faced a lot of club internal crisis this season, and by so doing Chelsea have lacked the motivation to challenge other clubs in this season which is why we see Chelsea losing most of their matches in this premier league season.
Wouldn't blame them for their bad run of results this season. But still, they have to be able to get up with all the problems they are facing now, if not, it will be even more difficult for them in the future because other clubs will also improve their performance. Actually their fans don't want to know what their current problem is, they want to see that their proud club is playing well and winning victory after victory in every game they play. If not then they will put pressure on management to make improvements, maybe in the end they will press to change coaches again. Yes, it is a risk that must be accepted by a coach if the club he manages does not also play well as they did when they pressured the management to immediately sack Thomas Tuchel.

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November 14, 2022, 05:42:24 PM
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Chelsea still has a strong team, but it is clearly less good than Arsenal and Manchester City. The latter has been the best team for years (in some years together with Liverpool), but Arsenal has actually really broken through this season. Arsenal used to be very good in the years 2000 - 2010. I cannot explain why the brakes have been put on that. They have always had good players and also have a great sponsor. This season they have also brought in strong players, including Jesus van City. I hope Arsenal can maintain the level long enough to become champions. Arsenal has a high favor factor.

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November 14, 2022, 05:56:43 PM
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The chance is still there, but it's very slim, this season there are several teams that have managed to add to the competition in the top four positions. Arsenal and Newcastle have enlivened the competition with impressive performances shown since the start of the season, Arsenal managed to sit in first place by breaking the dominance of Manchester City. Meanwhile, Newcastle have appeared extraordinary this season which has made them successful in third place.

Tottenham, Manchester United, Liverpool and Brighton are above Chelsea, there is still a lot for Chelsea to do to get into the top four. Potter has not been able to fulfill the hopes of Chelsea's owners, defeats in the last few matches have made Chelsea slump to eighth place. It took a consistent struggle for Chelsea to get past several teams that were above it, with the more teams that occupy the top four positions the less chance Chelsea have to re-enter the UCL zone.
Chelsea improved after Potter was appointed as coach, but in fact Potter cannot be immediately expected to be able to make Chelsea appear consistent and win all the matches they play. That's a tough expectation for any coach, but let the process take its course and see how the team gets back on track after the coach and his staff evaluate his team.

I don't think Chelsea are starting to lose hope of ending this season in the Champions League zone. Even if their recent form has been lacking, there are plenty of opportunities to improve after the World Cup break. Chelsea is a good team, but the tough competition in the Premier League will never be easy for any team to reach their final target.
But we see Chelsea can't finish the game well for 3 games in a row of course it is a very embarrassing defeat for me and Potter which we think will be good after coaching Chelsea but it's true that Potter's tactics have not reacted and this must be evaluated during the league break after December will take place again Potter must be able to perform better for his team.

Chelsea will not lose hope in the Premier League even though it has bounced to 8 standings with a distance of 8 points from the top 4 positions. It is still very possible to achieve and from this intense competition, Chelsea can be improved again with several ongoing league processes later.

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November 14, 2022, 06:01:02 PM
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Chelsea improved after Potter was appointed as coach, but in fact Potter cannot be immediately expected to be able to make Chelsea appear consistent and win all the matches they play. That's a tough expectation for any coach, but let the process take its course and see how the team gets back on track after the coach and his staff evaluate his team.

I don't think Chelsea are starting to lose hope of ending this season in the Champions League zone. Even if their recent form has been lacking, there are plenty of opportunities to improve after the World Cup break. Chelsea is a good team, but the tough competition in the Premier League will never be easy for any team to reach their final target.

Competition in the Premier League is increasing, several clubs have taken big steps to be better prepared to compete. But I see Chelsea starting to go downhill since Todd Boehly took over, and sacking Tuchel was the wrong decision.

It is not easy for the new management to organize their club, but I am pessimistic that Chelsea will return to its glory like the Roman Abramovich era. To make matters worse, while the Blues finish outside the top five, star players will be reluctant to opt for a move to the London club.
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November 14, 2022, 06:08:40 PM
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But we see Chelsea can't finish the game well for 3 games in a row of course it is a very embarrassing defeat for me and Potter which we think will be good after coaching Chelsea but it's true that Potter's tactics have not reacted and this must be evaluated during the league break after December will take place again Potter must be able to perform better for his team.
Even though I am not a Chelsea fan, but I deeply feel the disappointment among the supporters from the recent Chelsea match results. Potter should be responsible for improving the mentality and quality of his team after the world cup so it is only right to expect them to perform well after this especially if the players understand the strategy well.

Chelsea will not lose hope in the Premier League even though it has bounced to 8 standings with a distance of 8 points from the top 4 positions. It is still very possible to achieve and from this intense competition, Chelsea can be improved again with several ongoing league processes later.
Of course, even I have to say that the fans have to be fully supportive and optimistic about Chelsea because they are also still playing in the Champions League this season.

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November 14, 2022, 06:16:15 PM
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But we see Chelsea can't finish the game well for 3 games in a row of course it is a very embarrassing defeat for me and Potter which we think will be good after coaching Chelsea but it's true that Potter's tactics have not reacted and this must be evaluated during the league break after December will take place again Potter must be able to perform better for his team.
Even though I am not a Chelsea fan, but I deeply feel the disappointment among the supporters from the recent Chelsea match results. Potter should be responsible for improving the mentality and quality of his team after the world cup so it is only right to expect them to perform well after this especially if the players understand the strategy well.

Chelsea will not lose hope in the Premier League even though it has bounced to 8 standings with a distance of 8 points from the top 4 positions. It is still very possible to achieve and from this intense competition, Chelsea can be improved again with several ongoing league processes later.
Of course, even I have to say that the fans have to be fully supportive and optimistic about Chelsea because they are also still playing in the Champions League this season.

The recent results are really bad and I still don't get why they kicked out Tuchel. They weren't performing well with Tuchel, but I don't think they would have ever played as bad as they do now. Tuchel already dealt with a club like PSG, all the inner problems of such a club and also with a lot of superstars at the same time. He is a complicated guy, but taking into account which managers were available on the market, I would have sticked with Tuchel for the time being. They have could have taken action later on as well. Changing that position was a bad decision because what did they expect? To conquer the EPL with Potter would be easier than with Tuchel?

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November 14, 2022, 06:34:34 PM
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I wouldn't rule Chelsea outta top 4 just yet the gap isn't that too wide so maybe if after the world Cup break they get there stuffs back together then they could get In. Concerning Potters appointment, it was a gamble from head on since he hasn't won anything tangible and it's looking like it's failing already. It's not that he has changed the pattern he used at Brighton but does tactics only suit less ambitious teams. Chelsea is a very demanding team and the pressure cannot be handle by mere coaches. I feel potter won't get pass the summer except a dramatic turn around happens.

Chelsea in their worst form this season with failing to record a win in their last 4 games in the premier league. Graham Potter is the man for the job but his constant losing of games is annoying and the fans are not happy with the results they have witnessed so far. The world cup break is even a good thing for the blues as they will have enough time to retrategize and implement a new formation tactics. The actual facts is Graham Potter is a mediocre coach, he still needs time to come to realization that he's managing one of the big team in EPL.
Chelsea believes that bringing Graham Potter to coach the team will make the team to perform better immediately.  If Chelsea had given Thomas Tuchel the chance to remain in the club by now Chelsea should have been doing more  better than this their present state of performance.
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November 14, 2022, 06:47:55 PM
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I wouldn't rule Chelsea outta top 4 just yet the gap isn't that too wide so maybe if after the world Cup break they get there stuffs back together then they could get In. Concerning Potters appointment, it was a gamble from head on since he hasn't won anything tangible and it's looking like it's failing already. It's not that he has changed the pattern he used at Brighton but does tactics only suit less ambitious teams. Chelsea is a very demanding team and the pressure cannot be handle by mere coaches. I feel potter won't get pass the summer except a dramatic turn around happens.

Chelsea in their worst form this season with failing to record a win in their last 4 games in the premier league. Graham Potter is the man for the job but his constant losing of games is annoying and the fans are not happy with the results they have witnessed so far. The world cup break is even a good thing for the blues as they will have enough time to retrategize and implement a new formation tactics. The actual facts is Graham Potter is a mediocre coach, he still needs time to come to realization that he's managing one of the big team in EPL.
Chelsea believes that bringing Graham Potter to coach the team will make the team to perform better immediately.  If Chelsea had given Thomas Tuchel the chance to remain in the club by now Chelsea should have been doing more  better than this their present state of performance.

Yes Chelsea are still reliant on Graham Potter for his service next season, thru do not have a problem with him and are still backing him for long term plans for Chelsea, Chelsea expecting a quick results not knowing Graham Potter will have to adapt to the squad with some losses. Chelsea will pull up back stronger and help them selves fight for top four which is looking impossible
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I wouldn't rule Chelsea outta top 4 just yet the gap isn't that too wide so maybe if after the world Cup break they get there stuffs back together then they could get In. Concerning Potters appointment, it was a gamble from head on since he hasn't won anything tangible and it's looking like it's failing already. It's not that he has changed the pattern he used at Brighton but does tactics only suit less ambitious teams. Chelsea is a very demanding team and the pressure cannot be handle by mere coaches. I feel potter won't get pass the summer except a dramatic turn around happens.

Chelsea in their worst form this season with failing to record a win in their last 4 games in the premier league. Graham Potter is the man for the job but his constant losing of games is annoying and the fans are not happy with the results they have witnessed so far. The world cup break is even a good thing for the blues as they will have enough time to retrategize and implement a new formation tactics. The actual facts is Graham Potter is a mediocre coach, he still needs time to come to realization that he's managing one of the big team in EPL.
Chelsea believes that bringing Graham Potter to coach the team will make the team to perform better immediately.  If Chelsea had given Thomas Tuchel the chance to remain in the club by now Chelsea should have been doing more  better than this their present state of performance.
Thomas Tuchel was great for Chelsea and I think they are realizing it now. Performance of Chelsea is not in satisfactory level even they're not able to draw with comparative lower teams. If they don't focus on their performance, condition of Chelsea will be difficult. They need to change their tactics and strategies to come back.
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November 14, 2022, 07:11:55 PM
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Newcastle are an amazing team this season for certain. Especially their recent winning streak has carried them to the third position in the standings. They totally deserve to be ahead of Tottenham as well because of beating them 2-1 away before. I'm really excited about their future performances.

Because if they can become this much successful with an average level of squad now then I wonder what they can do with a squad full of very talented players. It is very important for them to qualify for the Champions League by finishing the season in top 4 now. Maybe it isn't easy but they have the strength for it.

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November 14, 2022, 07:18:50 PM
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Thomas Tuchel was great for Chelsea and I think they are realizing it now. Performance of Chelsea is not in satisfactory level even they're not able to draw with comparative lower teams. If they don't focus on their performance, condition of Chelsea will be difficult. They need to change their tactics and strategies to come back.
Chelsea management are aware of the qualities of Tuchel but they cannot accept many defeats like that. Since the easiest way is to change the coach then they will try it.
Overall the last transfer window for Chelsea wasn't successful and many good players left the team at its weakest point after the departure of the ex president. Chelsea have to invest in this winter transfer window or else their situation will not improve at all..

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Newcastle are an amazing team this season for certain. Especially their recent winning streak has carried them to the third position in the standings. They totally deserve to be ahead of Tottenham as well because of beating them 2-1 away before. I'm really excited about their future performances.

Because if they can become this much successful with an average level of squad now then I wonder what they can do with a squad full of very talented players. It is very important for them to qualify for the Champions League by finishing the season in top 4 now. Maybe it isn't easy but they have the strength for it.

That is our current question, what is actually the main factor for the success of Newcastle as far as I know they have good finances
I'm not sure finance is the main factor because they haven't used it fully regarding players as you said, they have an average squad.

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November 14, 2022, 07:25:16 PM
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Thomas Tuchel was great for Chelsea and I think they are realizing it now. Performance of Chelsea is not in satisfactory level even they're not able to draw with comparative lower teams. If they don't focus on their performance, condition of Chelsea will be difficult. They need to change their tactics and strategies to come back.
Chelsea management are aware of the qualities of Tuchel but they cannot accept many defeats like that. Since the easiest way is to change the coach then they will try it.
Overall the last transfer window for Chelsea wasn't successful and many good players left the team at its weakest point after the departure of the ex president. Chelsea have to invest in this winter transfer window or else their situation will not improve at all..

And they have five defeats already without a single win yet they still backed the manager for longer visions with the club. It is just that the new responsibilities want people they feel are trusted and trustworthy to handle the club.
Thomas Tuchel has never been a bad manager. Chelsea fans responsible for going against him are now missing his good tactics used to win the Champions League. They can do better with few introduced players after the world Cup
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Thomas Tuchel was great for Chelsea and I think they are realizing it now. Performance of Chelsea is not in satisfactory level even they're not able to draw with comparative lower teams. If they don't focus on their performance, condition of Chelsea will be difficult. They need to change their tactics and strategies to come back.
Chelsea management are aware of the qualities of Tuchel but they cannot accept many defeats like that. Since the easiest way is to change the coach then they will try it.
Overall the last transfer window for Chelsea wasn't successful and many good players left the team at its weakest point after the departure of the ex president. Chelsea have to invest in this winter transfer window or else their situation will not improve at all..
According to the official news released by Chelsea Media the club is not interested in dismissing Graham Potter any moment. They want to give him opportunity to prove that he is a good coach and they will support him in the winter transfer window to make available good players and by then Graham Potter could be lucky to have some players back in the defence line and also in the midfield where the like of Ngolo  Kante is missing.

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November 14, 2022, 07:49:55 PM
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There is not too much to talk about Chelsea indeed. They are in a horrible shape and the biggest reasons are obvious already:

- Wrong tactical choices and game plan by Graham Potter
- Struggling with scoring goals

The first one can be solved by Potter easily in fact. He is going to have a lot of time to think about where he is doing wrong and to fix things after. He was doing really great with Brighton actually. But he is still unable to find the right strategies for Chelsea. He hasn't had a big team experience so far. Maybe that's why.

When it comes to the scoring problem, it can be fixed by making a transfer in January. Maybe it is more difficult to find a solid striker in the middle of the season. But they can still use the advantage of being one of the prominent teams.

First of all, Chelsea made a bad choice by bringing in Potter. I do not think he is any kind of upgrade compared to Tuchel. I actually think that the previous coach Tuchel was actually doing a better job. But they have made their choice. And for some reason, a lot of people are saying that now they want Tuchel back. 

If they do that, I also don’t think it is going to be much of a help at this point. I think the best thing for Chelsea is going to be helping Potter with enough amount of money that he needs. And if he cannot bring the results, even after that, I think that is going to be their time when they should think about changing the authority, not before that.

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November 14, 2022, 08:09:43 PM
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Chelsea improved after Potter was appointed as coach, but in fact Potter cannot be immediately expected to be able to make Chelsea appear consistent and win all the matches they play. That's a tough expectation for any coach, but let the process take its course and see how the team gets back on track after the coach and his staff evaluate his team.

I don't think Chelsea are starting to lose hope of ending this season in the Champions League zone. Even if their recent form has been lacking, there are plenty of opportunities to improve after the World Cup break. Chelsea is a good team, but the tough competition in the Premier League will never be easy for any team to reach their final target.
Tod Boehly is very different from Chelsea's previous owner, his decision to fire Tuchel seemed in a hurry, as a result they had to face the fact that Potter did not have any impact on Chelsea

Reportedly Tod is looking for another new coach, and I think he's crazy, if he has decided something it's better if he lets it work slowly, there are no instant results, and Potter needs adjustment

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November 14, 2022, 08:09:54 PM
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But we see Chelsea can't finish the game well for 3 games in a row of course it is a very embarrassing defeat for me and Potter which we think will be good after coaching Chelsea but it's true that Potter's tactics have not reacted and this must be evaluated during the league break after December will take place again Potter must be able to perform better for his team.
Even though I am not a Chelsea fan, but I deeply feel the disappointment among the supporters from the recent Chelsea match results. Potter should be responsible for improving the mentality and quality of his team after the world cup so it is only right to expect them to perform well after this especially if the players understand the strategy well.
They will feel that seeing their favorite team have to lose recently this doesn't show Chelsea as a big team, but Graham Potter is indeed responsible for all of this if he continues to be disappointed then this will be a pressure for him who used to enter as a coach Many believe Chelsea will be better than Tuchel but in fact now they are unable to maintain that, actually what I said is too early to say this but Potter must be able to solve problems and get out of this successive defeat.
The mentality and motivation of players must be improved again and how they play better is what Potter has to pay attention to.

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