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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 84 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 09, 2023, 05:16:27 AM
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Most players in this Newcastle team aren’t used to the UCL and as we all know the UCL requires not just quality players but experience on the competition and that’s what’s lacking in this young Newcastle squad, against Dortmund they tried to play a good game in both pegs conceding not up to 4 legs in both legs shows the level of improvement in this side, probably they’ll look for a way to progress to the Round of 16 else I think they’ll flourish in the Europa League.
Newcastle is indeed a strong club, but as you said, they are newcomers to the UCL. So, you could say their experience and of course their confidence may be different, not as high. But just to be in the UCL, that's a good thing that they should be able to maintain next season. What's more, the first time they were in the UCL, they were in truly the hell group phase, so it's not surprising that they didn't qualify. The opponents were PSG, Milan and Dortmund who have been in the UCL many times and are very experienced. Try if Newcastle were not in that group, maybe he would have a high chance. So, yes, there is no need to be very disappointed with them. Because they have actually tried optimally, but their opponents are really tough.
Certainly, Newcastle's journey to the UCL is commendable, and their position is not one to scoff at. Examining their recent match against Borussia Dortmund, the stats reflect a tactical battle where Dortmund’s 4-2-3-1 formation ultimately outmaneuvered Newcastle's 4-3-3 setup​​. It’s intriguing to consider how Newcastle’s tactical choices and lineup may have fared in a different group. Yet, it’s worth mentioning that Dortmund’s precise execution, evidenced by goals from Füllkrug and Brandt, was a decisive factor in the match outcome​​. This brings us to speculate whether a tactical adjustment could have altered Newcastle's fate. Their robust lineup, including the likes of Pope, Lascelles, and Joelinton, suggests a potential for versatility that might be tapped into more effectively in future matches​​

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November 09, 2023, 05:26:01 AM
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Not every team can perform excellence outside EPL just as in the scenario. Eddie Howe have plans to bounce back to the competitive race to qualify for the next phase. The only attributes capable of pushing the Magpies elevated is having good strategy towards their opponents, and Eddie Howe should spot the weaknesses of his team and fixed them. Newcastle is strong enough to face any elite teams in English Premier League but when it comes to UEFA Champions league, they've zero experience, giving their oppositions more advantages for the opponent.
Did what Newcastle get disappoint their fans? I think not because as you said they still lack experience in this big tournament and are also in the most difficult group this season so that will make it a big challenge, what they got is still better than what Manchester United got. Manchester United, who have won the Champions League three times, have looked very bad this season and last night's defeat makes it even more convincing that they will have big problems in the competition.

Newcastle, who lost in the Champions League, will soon recover to face Bournemouth in the English Premier League match, actually, this will not be a difficult match for them, and they will have the opportunity to get 3 points even though this is an away match, my prediction is that Newcastle will have the opportunity to score lots of goals because They are one of the teams that has been quite productive this season.
there is a possibility that some fans will be disappointed who dont understand Newcastle history, but fans who have been following Newcastle for a long time will not feel disappointed because it is still too early for Newcastle who have to try to compete in big competitions in the UCL, while tough opponents like Dortmund have more experience in the UCL. Meanwhile, Man United may have several seasons before they really get quality players and an experienced coach this team will find it difficult to win another title in the UCL.

upcoming match Newcastle vs Bournemouth logically Newcastle should win against a team that is at the bottom of the standings but when I look at the odds provided the bookmaker there is a little suspicion because usually the team that is the favorite and has a big chance of winning the match usually has odds of around @1.2 or maybe lower but the current odds of Newcastle @1.6 are too high for the team to win and with this suspicion I will place a bet while the match is in progress to confirm if Newcastle will actually win this match as I was a little disappointed in the previous bet too much shock.

I also found the odds a little strange on the Wolves vs Spurs match. bookmaker provides odds for Spurs @2.14 and this is a very high odds for the favorite team for me even though the h2h history is almost the same but I will not use h2h as an analysis, rather look at the overall performance of the two teams at this time and I am also suspicious if Wolves are likely to win or draw.

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November 09, 2023, 06:25:55 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

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November 09, 2023, 06:39:42 AM
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The performance shown by Newcastle was slightly different when they played in the UCL, EFL and Premier League. At UCL maybe they weren't really mentally prepared. Their confidence slowly decreased in the group phase. But in the Premier League we can see that Arsenal even lost to Newcastle last week. Not only that, Newcastle also managed to beat Man City and Man United in the EFL. So actually Newcastle's performance was very good. But they are not ready to accept heavier pressure like in the UCL. So it seems that everyone is not surprised by Newcastle's defeat in the UCL. But every time Newcastle loses in the Premier League, it is natural for everyone to feel disappointed. Because last season Newcastle in the Premier League was really difficult to beat.
This mentality is very influential, especially in UCL matches which have a different atmosphere and tension compared to Premier League matches, but so far the Newcastle team's progress since last season continues to improve and the Newcastle team has really become one of the top Premier League teams. I am sure that in the next 3 or 4 years the Newcastle team will be on par with other top European teams.
Everything requires a process and Newcastle is going through or carrying out that process.
Newcastle's development actually reminds me of Man City's development when the club changed ownership. In the past, Man City was not too feared. But now we know Man City is one of the clubs most feared by opponents in European football. And I think one day Newcastle might also have the same improvement as Man City. Although maybe it won't be as great as Man City. But one day it looks like the Newcastle club will truly become a club that is also respected by other clubs. Because even now this club's reputation is increasing. And since last season Newcastle has become a club that is starting to be respected by other clubs. We cannot ignore their poor performance in the UCL. But seeing their very minimal experience, everyone understands it.

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November 09, 2023, 07:21:30 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).

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November 09, 2023, 07:44:05 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
It seems difficult to get through the group in the UCL because of yesterday's defeat against Copenhagen of course Manchester United can focus more on the EPL, because that way they can recover from the current situation which doesn't look good, Manchester United really isn't ready to play in the UCL and there are many who they have to improve and learn so they experienced a lot of defeats in the UCL, I think Ten Hag needs to bring his team to perform better and focus on the EPL.

So far in the EPL, Manchester United is actually not too bad, out of the last five matches they have only lost twice, but in several other matches Manchester United has lost, therefore it is time for Ten Hag to return his team's focus to the EPL because there is still time. to improve and catch up to move to the top of the standings or the top four.

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November 09, 2023, 08:09:07 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
Erik Ten Hag still has enough time to improve Manchester United's performance, but if Erik Ten Hag can do it, currently Manchester United continues to experience a decline in performance and it even looks like Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round of the Champions League will be difficult to achieve, last season Erik Ten Hag succeeded in bringing Manchester United to finish in third place but it looks like this season will be a little difficult because Manchester United is experiencing difficulties in terms of players. Erik Ten Hag finds it difficult to develop the playing style of his players so he continues to decline.
Indeed, Man Utd still has 27 matches remaining, but Manchester United has currently experienced 5 defeats even though they have only played 11 matches, whereas last season Manchester Utd experienced only 9 defeats from a total of 38 matches, so from this it can be concluded that Man Utd is in condition not good this season.

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November 09, 2023, 08:28:51 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
I don't know why Ten Hag is finding it difficult to take Manchester United to where they belong because they have all the good players in the club,but yet,he hasn't been able to find a strategy he can be using to win matches.Ten Have isn't abetter coach and I think everyone have seen it now.Taking a look at what happened last night,instead of him to change a striker and put in a defender since Rashford has shown red card,he replace a player with another striker when he knows threat will be put on them after the Red car.Now Man U must be thinking of what to do in order to remove him from that position as the head coach.

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November 09, 2023, 08:29:38 AM
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The performance shown by Newcastle was slightly different when they played in the UCL, EFL and Premier League. At UCL maybe they weren't really mentally prepared. Their confidence slowly decreased in the group phase. But in the Premier League we can see that Arsenal even lost to Newcastle last week. Not only that, Newcastle also managed to beat Man City and Man United in the EFL. So actually Newcastle's performance was very good. But they are not ready to accept heavier pressure like in the UCL. So it seems that everyone is not surprised by Newcastle's defeat in the UCL. But every time Newcastle loses in the Premier League, it is natural for everyone to feel disappointed. Because last season Newcastle in the Premier League was really difficult to beat.
This mentality is very influential, especially in UCL matches which have a different atmosphere and tension compared to Premier League matches, but so far the Newcastle team's progress since last season continues to improve and the Newcastle team has really become one of the top Premier League teams. I am sure that in the next 3 or 4 years the Newcastle team will be on par with other top European teams.
Everything requires a process and Newcastle is going through or carrying out that process.
Now they still need a process because after all when talking about Newcastle and the Champions League this is clearly for them still unfamiliar so to be able to compete in the Champions League they must start continuing to improve performance in terms of players and quality first because this is important if in the end they want something more in the EPL and Champions League then indeed improvements must continue to be made and with their resources currently abundant it is not a difficult thing for Newcastle.
This season, even if they can't qualify for the knock out phase I think with such a tough club situation there will be no problem for them and will even be highly praised for being able to immediately compete with the big clubs subscribed to the Champions League.

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November 09, 2023, 08:46:35 AM
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I don't think Manchester United and Newcastle can be compared because the quality of these two teams is different, so it's only natural that Manchester United also slumps in the UCL because in the Premier League the Manchester United team is like that.
In contrast to Newcastle who had quite an impressive performance in the Premier League but they failed to show the same performance in the UCl match, it is true that Newcastle was a little unlucky because they joined a strong team in group F, but if their mentality is strong they can definitely show their performance. the same as they showed in the Premier League match.
How can a team qualify for UEFA CL and at the end of the day, they failed to record brilliant performance in games. If these teams continue like this, I'm afraid they will be eliminated from UCL in the early stage. Manchester United and Newcastle are the two English team's that are struggling in UEFA Champions League competition, though there are other teams that are also facing challenges, Red Devils and the Magpies will take decisive measures if only they're keen on bouncing back to form. For quick reminder,  Manchester United and Newcastle are ranked the least team's in their perspective groups.

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November 09, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
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upcoming match Newcastle vs Bournemouth logically Newcastle should win against a team that is at the bottom of the standings but when I look at the odds provided the bookmaker there is a little suspicion because usually the team that is the favorite and has a big chance of winning the match usually has odds of around @1.2 or maybe lower but the current odds of Newcastle @1.6 are too high for the team to win and with this suspicion I will place a bet while the match is in progress to confirm if Newcastle will actually win this match as I was a little disappointed in the previous bet too much shock.
Bournemouth this season has a very poor performance, they need to really work on there team in other enhance there performance because if they should continue with their pattern of play the chances of going high will be very small so preferably having striker like Mbappe or Kevin the Bruyne is what they really need.

They seem to have been having a lot of challenges in performance this season because there last 10 matches was nothing to write home about, out of 10 matches they only won 2 matches, lost 6 matches and draws 2 matches that's awful performance and even the premier League table they are on the 18 place.

So with there poor performance I don't think they stand a chance against Newcastle United because Newcastle is far better in performance than them, so however irrespective of how the Newcastle odds seems to have been higher instead of being low doesn't determine their wining so I just believe that Newcastle will win them with many goals.

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November 09, 2023, 09:24:58 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
Erik Ten Hag still has enough time to improve Manchester United's performance, but if Erik Ten Hag can do it, currently Manchester United continues to experience a decline in performance and it even looks like Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round of the Champions League will be difficult to achieve, last season Erik Ten Hag succeeded in bringing Manchester United to finish in third place but it looks like this season will be a little difficult because Manchester United is experiencing difficulties in terms of players. Erik Ten Hag finds it difficult to develop the playing style of his players so he continues to decline.
Indeed, Man Utd still has 27 matches remaining, but Manchester United has currently experienced 5 defeats even though they have only played 11 matches, whereas last season Manchester Utd experienced only 9 defeats from a total of 38 matches, so from this it can be concluded that Man Utd is in condition not good this season.

No matter how hard they tried to improve Manchester United nut I think Manchester United we saw in the last season because they 'improved' the team, had a much better performance and they could even get a better place in the Premier League but I think Ten Hag completely failed to improve the team and they just decreased the team performance during the summer, if Ten Hag didn't make any changes during the summer they could get better results.

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November 09, 2023, 09:53:30 AM
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Maybe what you said is quite right because a breakdown in relationships with players will create quite a bad situation for them in every match. Because the players don't have the full trust of the coach, of course they won't play better to be able to bring the team to victory. I think Erik Ten Hag current position is very extreme, He will be fired if he fails to bring Manchester united through to the round of 16. Because that is one of his hopes of being able to last longer with Manchester United if he succeeds in bringing Manchester united to the round of 16.

Yes, regarding harmony within the team, of course it must be maintained as best as possible by all players and coaches and what is happening at Manchester united currently is that harmony between player and coach is quite chaotic. Especially the Sancho problem which has not been resolved until now. Wouldn't something like this disturb the team and Erik Ten Hag has to lower his emotional tension and have to give a lot of confidence to the player to be able to work harder in achieving their target.
Regarding Manchester United, I think the whole problem is not about Erik Ten Hag only, I mean he has his own side of the blame but alot of things is hindering them from progressing thìs seaso, the whole team needs to be restructured to get them to start performing better again, the pressure is too much on Erik Ten Hag and thus it's causing him to make lots of wrong decisions which in return is affecting their performance on the pitch and I doubt if they'll be able to beat Galatasaray and Bayern Munich to qualify for the next round.

 You're right I think there's favoritism going on in the teams that's causing them to lack harmony, Rashford is not performing very well but he still gets to start over mount and pellistri that gives in their best whenever they're given an opportunity, the Sancho situation is another thing the board needs to look into cause not all his teammates would be happy about how the coach is handling the situation especially the players closer to him, Erik Ten Hag needs to try as much a possible to ensure that such incident doesn't occur again in the team, they've already lost two good wingers, Greenwood and Sancho they don't need to lose another.

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November 09, 2023, 10:03:15 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).
Actually, I still hope for more progress for this team, but unfortunately every problem always comes and it also really affects a team's performance. From internal player problems, feuds with coaches, to injuries suffered by several players and that is why Manchester United seems to be under a never-ending curse. The season is still long and I'm pretty sure they can fix it if some of these problems can be resolved well and no other problems come. Getting to the top 5, I think it would be a good thing for the Red Devils, but I really doubt that Manchester United can finish in that place with the significant development of several other EPL teams.

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November 09, 2023, 10:06:23 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Any team can have bad days or even bad weeks for a while and it doesn't mean Arsenal is not going to win the Premier League title anymore. Arteta had a good performance in Arsenal during the last season and this coach is even more experienced now, which means he can even get better results and I think if the players they lost because of getting injured are back in good form, they can easily take the first place of the table back if other teams lose some point.

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November 09, 2023, 10:15:17 AM
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Wolves - Tottenham is going to be the opening game this week. You know how big hit Tottenham took from Chelsea last week. The red cards they were given brought their hand by a really embarrassing score. However I don't think the mental of the players will be down too much just because of this loss. I expect to get prepared strongly for the Wolves game.

This is a great opportunity to make up for that loss. Tottenham are currently the best away team according to the statistics. The recent away games they played against Wolves weren't easy ones though. However Tottenham weren't this much impressive those times.

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November 09, 2023, 10:42:49 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Arsenal's injuries have impact on how they play on the pitch, but it's still not right to say that it's a crisis. among all players who are injured, it's only odegaard the one who has impact to the team. in midfield without Partey, they still have Declan rice, Jorginho, Fábio Vieira, etc. and their front line, they still have strong front line to win games.

Arsenal are still favorite to compete mancity at title race this season, because, other than mancity, they have the most complete squad in the league where they have quality backup players at every position. they only need to maintain their good form throughout the season.

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November 09, 2023, 10:52:52 AM
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This mentality is very influential, especially in UCL matches which have a different atmosphere and tension compared to Premier League matches, but so far the Newcastle team's progress since last season continues to improve and the Newcastle team has really become one of the top Premier League teams. I am sure that in the next 3 or 4 years the Newcastle team will be on par with other top European teams.
Everything requires a process and Newcastle is going through or carrying out that process.
In the Premier League this season, Newcastle is not too bad and is trying to continue to get points through existing matches so that they can return to the UCL realm in the League standings. However, this is often not easy for Newcastle because the other five teams are also very consistent in winning matches and in the UCL itself, Newcastle is also in the toughest group because it includes top teams from various leagues. However, Newcastle will definitely be able to overcome every challenge that comes their way through any match this season.

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November 09, 2023, 10:53:31 AM
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It makes sense if we take Manchester United's defeat to the Premier League because then there is no reason for the Red Devils not to focus on improving their performance in the Premier League. There are positive points, right? However, if this opportunity is not utilized properly and instead makes Manchester United enjoy their downturn, it means that this season will be an unforgettable season, especially for United fans. Of the 38 matches, there are 27 remaining matches and in my opinion it is still long enough for Ten Hag to develop this club. At least they can occupy the top 5 standings at the end of the season (if only).

I can't even really believe if ten hag will be able to stay in manchester united till the end of season. I would rather than think if ten hag will be sacked before the end of the season. In my opinion, ten hag is showing how to make its squad gets a setback on its performance.
Manchester united's gameplay is not only terrible to watch but it's also easy to be predicted by other club. Ten hag needs to do something like using the new strategy. He was doing many experiments, but none of these were successful.
It's time for the fans to judge the performance from manchester united. Some people have been yelling ten hag out but that's not enough. The fans need to see ten hag to deliver nothing again before MU's management will be sacking him.

There are many problems are happening in internal of manchester united at this moment. This is a serious problem. Ten hag makes the situation even worse and he was also wasting so much resources of manchester united.

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November 09, 2023, 10:54:36 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Take is easy, let them successfully qualify for the round of sixteen before we start taking about their chances of the Champions League semi finals and also the finals. Last night was a great game, they worked together as a team and achieved three points.

That game didn't go like they didn't have Odegaard in that match, they played without the gunner's captain and still performed well. He has been a good leader and also opening up spaces for his attackers to score goals.
For Thomas Partey, he has been well replaced by Declan Rice. Declan is so solid and has blend in well into the plans of  Mikel Arteta. Arsenal can now let Thomas Partey leave for Saudi Arabia, only when a good replacement comes in.

Jurim Timber and Gabriel Jesus are both players who haven't had a good season, injuries has off course frustrated them. Jurim Timber should be back in the month of January.

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