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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
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June 28, 2021, 06:51:01 PM
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Mbappe wants to leave PSG or will leave, or PSG is looking for Mbappe's replacement, we have not seen any news about this, not even heard any rumors. So it is unreasonable to discuss whether Liverpool will include Mbappe in the squad. Also, at the moment, I don't think Liverpool has the financial capacity to include a big star player in the team.
Mbappe is a real asset of PSG and he is on the top of soccer players. PSG surely never want to sell Mbappe because they consider him as a future of the club and more important than Neymar.

They will struggle to find a replacement for Mbappe and if that player fails with the mission, PSG will also struggle to win Champions League and I believe they will try their best to keep Mbappe. The performance of Mbappe with France in Euro will decide his future. If he has magnificent performance, big clubs will try to buy him, with very expensive cost. If he fails in the Euro, Mbappe will have less pressure from other clubs.
Didn't Real Madrid bid higher to get Mbappe to move into his hands, even I'm not sure Liverpool will get him this is a big enough financial to spend while Liverpool still continue to save money with existing players I don't think this will happen.

We'll see what the completion at Euro 2020 is whether Mbappe is able to bring his country to victory or not at least this will put great pressure if at EURO 2020 see his extraordinary performance, for the club to target him because Mbappe is still young and of course the future will be long if also recruited.
There is still no valid news of where he will go with the team he wants.
Without big higher or not ask by Real Madrid for Mbappe PSG have remember left one year contract for him and without any deal for extended next year Mbappe become free transfer player. I think left one year contract is not good ideas ask higher bid to interested club for Mbappe, but PSG could make new sign's contract from Mbappe I think they can reject all ask bid from many clubs.

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June 28, 2021, 09:34:58 PM
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I really doubt that Liverpool could get Mbappe to begin with. I mean sure they are a good team and they are financially not that bad neither but we are talking about Mbappe here, there are only a few teams that can even attempt to buy him and Liverpool is not one of them. The only choice is to sell either mane or salah, we know that but even after selling one of them you would have to add in so much more because Mbappe is that much better.

At the end of the day we are talking about something that is really challanging and that is why I doubt that it would be as easy as people think. Mbappe will probably stay at PSG at least few more seasons, only way I see him going to another team would be either ending of contract and going there for free, or someone will offer about 150-200 million eventually but that is not going to be this season after such a financially horrible year.

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June 28, 2021, 10:12:01 PM
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Without big higher or not ask by Real Madrid for Mbappe PSG have remember left one year contract for him and without any deal for extended next year Mbappe become free transfer player. I think left one year contract is not good ideas ask higher bid to interested club for Mbappe, but PSG could make new sign's contract from Mbappe I think they can reject all ask bid from many clubs.
The situation is beginning to become very interesting, how the departure of the French national team from the European Championship and the miss of Mbappe can affect the transfer value of the player and the subsequent prospects of the young talent in Paris Saint-Germain. I think that Paris Saint-Germain will try to take advantage of the situation to strengthen their position in keeping the player in their squad. I am also not sure that Real Madrid, as the main contender for the player, will force the situation, because the financial situation in football is not stable and this also applies to top clubs, because it was because of this that the failed adventure with the Super League appeared. It seems that the interest shown in Mbappe by Liverpool will remain just an interest.
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June 28, 2021, 11:12:38 PM
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Liverpool and Klopp won't do it because they will neither want nor be able to accept salary demand from Mbappe
Yep, the salary will become a problem as well, not only about the transfer fees.
That's why we all agree that Liverpool seems difficult to sign Mbappe. It is not a wise decision if they sell Salah or Mane and try to sign Mbappe.

First of all, Mbappe will not leave PSG at the moment.
There is no official statement whether he will stay or leave. Why you are so confident saying he won't leave? Do you hear current news about him from PSG management? We only can guess what Mbappe probably decides, he has two options (stay or leave). But we never know the answer till an official statement from PSG management or from Mbappe himself.


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June 29, 2021, 09:18:40 PM
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I really doubt that Liverpool could get Mbappe to begin with. I mean sure they are a good team and they are financially not that bad neither but we are talking about Mbappe here, there are only a few teams that can even attempt to buy him and Liverpool is not one of them. The only choice is to sell either mane or salah, we know that but even after selling one of them you would have to add in so much more because Mbappe is that much better.

At the end of the day we are talking about something that is really challanging and that is why I doubt that it would be as easy as people think. Mbappe will probably stay at PSG at least few more seasons, only way I see him going to another team would be either ending of contract and going there for free, or someone will offer about 150-200 million eventually but that is not going to be this season after such a financially horrible year.
I highly doubt that Mbappe would walk away for nothing. That would be very terrifying for PSG to lose a player for free, yet it would be not so nice for Mbappe as well since there would be ton of people who hate him as well for what he did and he would be seen as a player not trustworthy IF he is not saying that he wants to leave.

In the case that he wants to leave, he should tell the team and PSG will find a suitable team and a deal will be done, if he thinks that he should not be sold that in that case he should be staying at PSG, if he doesn't say anything and still leaves next year? That is going to be rough for PSG and they will be very upset and many fans (not just psg) will be mad as well.

A player who worths that much should at least tell the team he doesn't want to be there, it is simple to just request a transfer, many players have done that so far, staying like you belong and then leaving at last second is a tricky situation.

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June 29, 2021, 09:36:20 PM
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They will struggle to find a replacement for Mbappe and if that player fails with the mission, PSG will also struggle to win Champions League and I believe they will try their best to keep Mbappe. The performance of Mbappe with France in Euro will decide his future. If he has magnificent performance, big clubs will try to buy him, with very expensive cost. If he fails in the Euro, Mbappe will have less pressure from other clubs.
And your prediction had come to pass about Mbappe, he fail in the Euro 2020 what can you say, can you say other club will not want him because he missed a penalty kick against Switzerland? If that's what you are trying to explain then I may disagree with you, yes, Mbappe is out of the 2020 Euro struggle. It happens, to me, Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
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June 29, 2021, 11:19:41 PM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
I agree with you. Although Mbappe missed the penalty, there are still many top clubs trying to sign him. Missing 1 penalty isn't a measure of his career failure, it is a normal thing to happen in the football game. Ronaldo and Messi also ever missed a penalty on an important match, but no significant effect on the interest of top clubs to them. So, we cannot judge the top clubs won't interest anymore in Mbappe because he already missed a single penalty in Euro 2020.

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June 30, 2021, 07:37:26 AM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
I agree with you. Although Mbappe missed the penalty, there are still many top clubs trying to sign him. Missing 1 penalty isn't a measure of his career failure, it is a normal thing to happen in the football game. Ronaldo and Messi also ever missed a penalty on an important match, but no significant effect on the interest of top clubs to them. So, we cannot judge the top clubs won't interest anymore in Mbappe because he already missed a single penalty in Euro 2020.


Mbappe could miss the penalty. He was probably under extra stress. We will understand that Mbappe is still a young player. He is not yet experienced enough to handle the extra stress. Sometimes mistakes can be made. But he is certainly talented. And he might take Ronaldo's place the future.

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So, Benitez apparently signed with Everton. Still not confirmed by the club but more and more journalists reporting it.

As I said, as a Liverpool fan I really wish him all the best there, the hate messages he's receiving are really stupid because Liverpool and Everton never had that kind of rivalry.

Football-wise it might be a mistake though, Rafa was good at Newcastle but his 2 years in China show that he is not the coach he was in his prime.

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So, Benitez apparently signed with Everton. Still not confirmed by the club but more and more journalists reporting it.

As I said, as a Liverpool fan I really wish him all the best there, the hate messages he's receiving are really stupid because Liverpool and Everton never had that kind of rivalry.

Football-wise it might be a mistake though, Rafa was good at Newcastle but his 2 years in China show that he is not the coach he was in his prime.

Actually, it's not a problem for Benitez who joins Everton starting next season. Because, between Benitez's coaching period at Liverpool has been going on for a long time. Maybe the fans who issued hate speech against this decision seemed like they had the wrong perception about rivalry. In my opinion, maybe if Benitez joined Everton straight away after leaving Liverpool last season, this could be a reason to hate him, but this has been going on for a very long time, so it shouldn't be a problem anymore.

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June 30, 2021, 10:33:01 AM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
I agree with you. Although Mbappe missed the penalty, there are still many top clubs trying to sign him. Missing 1 penalty isn't a measure of his career failure, it is a normal thing to happen in the football game. Ronaldo and Messi also ever missed a penalty on an important match, but no significant effect on the interest of top clubs to them. So, we cannot judge the top clubs won't interest anymore in Mbappe because he already missed a single penalty in Euro 2020.


Mbappe could miss the penalty. He was probably under extra stress. We will understand that Mbappe is still a young player. He is not yet experienced enough to handle the extra stress. Sometimes mistakes can be made. But he is certainly talented. And he might take Ronaldo's place the future.

Mbappe penalty miss cannot be a measure if he is a bad player, we know how he has performed so far in club and national team and in my opinion every time he enters the field of play he will play with all his heart and give 100% of his ability to win the game,  after all, taking a penalty is not easy (although it looks easy) because the kicker has a fairly heavy burden, especially if the penalty is a determinant of the team fate of course the kicker burden will increase and in my opinion the goalkeeper now is relatively more prepared to face penalty situations considering he is equipped with complete statistics on the kicker,  So, armed with instinct, the goalkeeper now knows the kicker habits in choosing the direction of the kick.

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June 30, 2021, 01:26:35 PM
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Mbappe penalty miss cannot be a measure if he is a bad player, we know how he has performed so far in club and national team and in my opinion every time he enters the field of play he will play with all his heart and give 100% of his ability to win the game
Although Mbappe is not a bad player and he belongs to the top players for now, he actually had a bad Euro. His performance is under expectation from Deschamp, himself and fans around the world. Mbappe can do better and I think he conflict with Giroud affects his performance.

I also disagree with how he argued against Giroud. He should know Giroud is the second best scorer in France national team. He only stays behind Thiery Henry, the best scorer ever in France history.

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after all, taking a penalty is not easy (although it looks easy) because the kicker has a fairly heavy burden
It is not easy but that decision can be from Mbappe intention as well. He has never been recognized as one of best penalty kickers in soccer. I am not sure what are reasons behind the position of Mbappe in the penalty shot in that match. Is it from Deschamp or from the demand of Mbappe?
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June 30, 2021, 07:38:21 PM
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Mbape has been criticised seriously for failure to score in the penalty shoot out between Switzerland and France,but one thing to take into consideration is that a team must win,and a team must always loose.Mbape was the center of consideration here because he's a big player,and he missed.At a level like this,anybody can miss a penalty because of tension,so putting blame or criticizing Mbape won't really be good.
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June 30, 2021, 08:41:05 PM
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Officially: Nuno Santo is the new manager for Tottenham, after negotiating with all the available and related managers in the world.
For me, he is the right coach in the right place because of the club's ambitions and tools and the ability of this man to develop them and raise the ceiling of expectations.
Logically the goal is one of the first four places.
He can he achieve what his predecessors failed to do.
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June 30, 2021, 09:40:24 PM
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Actually, it's not a problem for Benitez who joins Everton starting next season. Because, between Benitez's coaching period at Liverpool has been going on for a long time. Maybe the fans who issued hate speech against this decision seemed like they had the wrong perception about rivalry. In my opinion, maybe if Benitez joined Everton straight away after leaving Liverpool last season, this could be a reason to hate him, but this has been going on for a very long time, so it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
It has been just 10 years since he managed liverpool, which could be a lot or very little depending on how you think about it, but obviously there are two sides, there are both people who hate him because of his Liverpool days, and there are people who would love to get a good manager no matter what.

This deal was overblown way too much just because of the threats and all, otherwise it is just another manager in another team and that's it, we have a million of these news all around the world, every year like 5-10% teams change managers, and think about how many teams there are, like at least 200 teams in the big nations, so at least 20 changes. The only reason this one got more attention was that "we know where you live, do not accept" type of thing that happened, otherwise it is all the same thing with the other 20 manager changes.

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June 30, 2021, 11:37:18 PM
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Mbappe could miss the penalty. He was probably under extra stress.
In my opinion, he was just unlucky. Actually, he has kicked the ball properly but it was not really powerful kick. Unfortunately, the goalkeeper could read the direction of the ball correctly and brushed it off. I bet the result will be different if Mbappe kicked the ball more powerful.

Mbappe is still a young player. He is not yet experienced enough to handle the extra stress
Yes. He needs more experience, especially for international matches. It is not only about handling stress, but he needs to improve his chemistry among his national teammates. It is quite different from the League or UCL because he plays with his teammate that spends much time playing together. While for international matches like in Euro or  World Cup, they play with different teammates and with a very limited time to play together.


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Mbappe could miss the penalty. He was probably under extra stress.
In my opinion, he was just unlucky. Actually, he has kicked the ball properly but it was not really powerful kick. Unfortunately, the goalkeeper could read the direction of the ball correctly and brushed it off. I bet the result will be different if Mbappe kicked the ball more powerful.

It was really unfortunate for Mbappe. But no player wants to miss a penalty. As a fan, we didn't like it. But at the end of the day, Mbappe is a man, we should not scold him, or humiliate him. He is definitely talented. And in the future, he will be able to give us much good gameplay.

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Yes. He needs more experience, especially for international matches. It is not only about handling stress, but he needs to improve his chemistry among his national teammates. It is quite different from the League or UCL because he plays with his teammate that spends much time playing together. While for international matches like in Euro or  World Cup, they play with different teammates and with a very limited time to play together.
France have a very stable squad in the last 3 tournaments: Euro 2016, World Cup 2018 and Euro 2020 (2021) and their problems are many players in the squad feel like they are on the top of the world and in the Europe. It is their problems and Mbappe has his personal issue that probably contributes by social media. They said he is a next Messi and will compete with a next Ronaldo, Haaland.

When Mbappe can keep his mind and foot unaffected by social media, he will become a legendary player.

Mbappe can be another Thomas Mueller who shined too early in international skirt but in late of career, his contribution has been less and less.

It was really unfortunate for Mbappe. But no player wants to miss a penalty. As a fan, we didn't like it. But at the end of the day, Mbappe is a man, we should not scold him, or humiliate him. He is definitely talented. And in the future, he will be able to give us much good gameplay.
Many super stars missed their penalty. Zico, Baggio, Beckham, Messi, Ronaldo, Trezeguet so it is not the end for Mbappe. He is too young and has 10 years to contribute more for France and win more international titles.

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July 01, 2021, 05:09:13 AM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
I agree with you. Although Mbappe missed the penalty, there are still many top clubs trying to sign him. Missing 1 penalty isn't a measure of his career failure, it is a normal thing to happen in the football game. Ronaldo and Messi also ever missed a penalty on an important match, but no significant effect on the interest of top clubs to them. So, we cannot judge the top clubs won't interest anymore in Mbappe because he already missed a single penalty in Euro 2020.


Mbappe could miss the penalty. He was probably under extra stress. We will understand that Mbappe is still a young player. He is not yet experienced enough to handle the extra stress. Sometimes mistakes can be made. But he is certainly talented. And he might take Ronaldo's place the future.

Mbappe penalty miss cannot be a measure if he is a bad player, we know how he has performed so far in club and national team and in my opinion every time he enters the field of play he will play with all his heart and give 100% of his ability to win the game,  after all, taking a penalty is not easy (although it looks easy) because the kicker has a fairly heavy burden, especially if the penalty is a determinant of the team fate of course the kicker burden will increase and in my opinion the goalkeeper now is relatively more prepared to face penalty situations considering he is equipped with complete statistics on the kicker,  So, armed with instinct, the goalkeeper now knows the kicker habits in choosing the direction of the kick.

Yeah, that's my point. Which star player did not miss the penalty? Messi missed a penalty in the World Cup match. No one becomes a bad player if he misses 2/1 penalty. Star players are under more mental pressure when taking penalties. Because everyone relies more on them. Mbappe missed the penalty due to extra mental pressure. And this is a common thing.

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July 01, 2021, 09:05:44 AM
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Mbape has been criticised seriously for failure to score in the penalty shoot out between Switzerland and France,but one thing to take into consideration is that a team must win,and a team must always loose.Mbape was the center of consideration here because he's a big player,and he missed.At a level like this,anybody can miss a penalty because of tension,so putting blame or criticizing Mbape won't really be good.
You can blame Mbappe, but the whole team was to blame for this defeat, because they relaxed at the end of the match and already considered themselves the winners. It was a big mistake, Switzerland is an attacking team with an excellent attack and they finished the match until the end, for which they have great respect. And a series of penalty shootouts is a lottery, it's pointless to blame anyone here.

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