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July 01, 2021, 09:52:39 AM
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You can blame Mbappe, but the whole team was to blame for this defeat, because they relaxed at the end of the match and already considered themselves the winners. It was a big mistake, Switzerland is an attacking team with an excellent attack and they finished the match until the end, for which they have great respect. And a series of penalty shootouts is a lottery, it's pointless to blame anyone here.

In my opinion, French fans expect too much from Mbappe, they expect Mbappe to show performance like during the World Cup where France won the World Cup 2018. This is what then makes supporters judge that Mbappe is not playing optimally at the Euro, even though In fact, the mistakes made by Mbappe in the match were not 100% his responsibility. Many other players have to support Mbappe, if Mbappe is not in maximum performance, the Coach or other players should look for alternatives to maximize the results of the match to produce a win.

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July 01, 2021, 10:11:01 AM
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I see that the last posts are way unrelated to the Premier League.  Grin  So I wanted to post this:

https://twitter.com/nocontextfooty/status/1410481964822544384?s=20

It looks like Jadon Sancho tweeted this five years ago. He said "Football is blue!" addressing Manchester City. But he deleted it recently after Manchester Utd and Dortmund reached an agreement. I don't know whether it was really necessary for him to delete it. Because it was in the past but things have changed now.

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July 01, 2021, 01:55:11 PM
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You can blame Mbappe, but the whole team was to blame for this defeat, because they relaxed at the end of the match and already considered themselves the winners. It was a big mistake, Switzerland is an attacking team with an excellent attack and they finished the match until the end, for which they have great respect. And a series of penalty shootouts is a lottery, it's pointless to blame anyone here.

In my opinion, French fans expect too much from Mbappe, they expect Mbappe to show performance like during the World Cup where France won the World Cup 2018. This is what then makes supporters judge that Mbappe is not playing optimally at the Euro, even though In fact, the mistakes made by Mbappe in the match were not 100% his responsibility. Many other players have to support Mbappe, if Mbappe is not in maximum performance, the Coach or other players should look for alternatives to maximize the results of the match to produce a win.
Exactly, the whole France team is to be blamed for allowing Switzerland draw them to penalty kicks.From first half of the game,the coach saw Mbape flopping but refuse to change him because he is big player.He played till extra time and could not deliver,instead of the coach to change him and know he was having a bad day,they still allowed him to kick the penalty and was even made the last person to play.The team entirely has to be blamed,and not only Mbape.
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July 01, 2021, 02:33:23 PM
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Mbape has been criticised seriously for failure to score in the penalty shoot out between Switzerland and France,but one thing to take into consideration is that a team must win,and a team must always loose.Mbape was the center of consideration here because he's a big player,and he missed.At a level like this,anybody can miss a penalty because of tension,so putting blame or criticizing Mbape won't really be good.
You can blame Mbappe, but the whole team was to blame for this defeat, because they relaxed at the end of the match and already considered themselves the winners. It was a big mistake, Switzerland is an attacking team with an excellent attack and they finished the match until the end, for which they have great respect. And a series of penalty shootouts is a lottery, it's pointless to blame anyone here.

I will not blame Mbappe in any way. He is a man. People can make mistakes, this is normal. Support him without blaming him. He has already apologized to his fans. Because, he could not meet the expectations of the fans. Support him, then you will be inspired to play better in the future.

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July 01, 2021, 02:51:35 PM
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I see that the last posts are way unrelated to the Premier League.  Grin  So I wanted to post this:

https://twitter.com/nocontextfooty/status/1410481964822544384?s=20

It looks like Jadon Sancho tweeted this five years ago. He said "Football is blue!" addressing Manchester City. But he deleted it recently after Manchester Utd and Dortmund reached an agreement. I don't know whether it was really necessary for him to delete it. Because it was in the past but things have changed now.

Jadon Sancho deleted the tweeted 5 years ago to appreciate his new team Manchester United, maybe he did this as a first step to show his loyalty
to Manchester United. Sancho definitely wants his journey with Manchester United to be good, I also want to see Sancho's performance with
Manchester United. What is certain is that Manchester United are serious enough to face next season, by bringing in Sancho at a very expensive cost.
That's proof that Manchester United want to strengthen their squad, hopefully Sancho can adapt quickly, so can directly contribute to Manchester United.

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July 01, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
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It looks like Jadon Sancho tweeted this five years ago. He said "Football is blue!" addressing Manchester City. But he deleted it recently after Manchester Utd and Dortmund reached an agreement. I don't know whether it was really necessary for him to delete it. Because it was in the past but things have changed now.

Still you know there are lot of trolls on internet. There would always someone digging up the past and make scene of it and others just putting more fuel to it. Good thing he deleted that.

His arrival in United would really make the left
wing strong considering how unproductive that side is right now. I still wonder what will happen to Rashford after his arrival.
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July 01, 2021, 05:52:34 PM
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It looks like Jadon Sancho tweeted this five years ago. He said "Football is blue!" addressing Manchester City. But he deleted it recently after Manchester Utd and Dortmund reached an agreement. I don't know whether it was really necessary for him to delete it. Because it was in the past but things have changed now.

Still you know there are lot of trolls on internet. There would always someone digging up the past and make scene of it and others just putting more fuel to it. Good thing he deleted that.

His arrival in United would really make the left
wing strong considering how unproductive that side is right now. I still wonder what will happen to Rashford after his arrival.
Sancho is a nice guy,he plays really well,has good scoring abilities,and also strong on the ball.But the question is can he do well in the English premier league?can he adapt quickly to Manchester United style of football,or he will flop in his first season like Nicolas Pepe flopped  in his first season for Arsenal FC.If he can adapt quickly to Man-u's style of football,it will really help them next season.Welcome to England boy.
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July 01, 2021, 06:07:50 PM
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Sancho is a nice guy,he plays really well,has good scoring abilities,and also strong on the ball.But the question is can he do well in the English premier league?can he adapt quickly to Manchester United style of football,or he will flop in his first season like Nicolas Pepe flopped  in his first season for Arsenal FC.If he can adapt quickly to Man-u's style of football,it will really help them next season.Welcome to England boy.

Good question and guess we can only find out when he starts out for United. Yeah its a huge risk when a young player is brought down for a hefty price. I hope that this doesn't happens for United as they have wasted a transfer window and invested a good amount in getting the player. Honestly I would have preferred Grealish over Sancho but guess its all done now.
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July 02, 2021, 04:58:49 AM
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Sancho is a nice guy,he plays really well,has good scoring abilities,and also strong on the ball.But the question is can he do well in the English premier league?can he adapt quickly to Manchester United style of football,or he will flop in his first season like Nicolas Pepe flopped  in his first season for Arsenal FC.If he can adapt quickly to Man-u's style of football,it will really help them next season.Welcome to England boy.

Good question and guess we can only find out when he starts out for United. Yeah its a huge risk when a young player is brought down for a hefty price. I hope that this doesn't happens for United as they have wasted a transfer window and invested a good amount in getting the player. Honestly I would have preferred Grealish over Sancho but guess its all done now.

@Lordhermes I believe Sancho will have the desire to be better because of his Manchester City days, plus he’ll have the likes of Rashford, Maguire that’ll help him settle in quickly. Also the preseason preparation will be a very important phase for him, and i hope he makes most of it because that’ll allow him to adapt to the premier league once it begins.
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July 02, 2021, 05:15:39 AM
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Good question and guess we can only find out when he starts out for United. Yeah its a huge risk when a young player is brought down for a hefty price. I hope that this doesn't happens for United as they have wasted a transfer window and invested a good amount in getting the player. Honestly I would have preferred Grealish over Sancho but guess its all done now.
The hefty transfer price can be a burden for Sancho and last season in Premier League, Timor Werner is a case like this. He used to be a good winger or striker in Bundesliga but after the transfer to Chelsea, he lost himself.

Sancho has problems with injuries in the last season that is another risk.

I believe Sancho will have the desire to be better because of his Manchester City days, plus he’ll have the likes of Rashford, Maguire that’ll help him settle in quickly. Also the preseason preparation will be a very important phase for him, and i hope he makes most of it because that’ll allow him to adapt to the premier league once it begins.
I don't think he has problems with Premier League because he has training with many players from Premier League, in England squad. If Sancho get good stamina and begin the season well, it will get rid of pressure from the hefty transfer. If he begins badly like Werner or Morata, he might get further troubles.

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July 02, 2021, 06:02:25 AM
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Good question and guess we can only find out when he starts out for United. Yeah its a huge risk when a young player is brought down for a hefty price. I hope that this doesn't happens for United as they have wasted a transfer window and invested a good amount in getting the player. Honestly I would have preferred Grealish over Sancho but guess its all done now.
The hefty transfer price can be a burden for Sancho and last season in Premier League, Timor Werner is a case like this. He used to be a good winger or striker in Bundesliga but after the transfer to Chelsea, he lost himself.

Sancho has problems with injuries in the last season that is another risk.

Yeah that also puts a lot of burden on players as well. Regarding Werner, I think he is a decent striker right now but has potential to become very great striker. Why? He has got the pace and with that he has put lot pressure against PL teams. Yeah he is still has to develop his finishing and shooting but he has got the age right now and he will adjust after some time. The pressure is what is making him take time - that's what I feel.
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July 02, 2021, 06:45:27 AM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
Are we suppose to crucify the young lad for that missed penalty...I don't think So!

Besides no one player has a perfect record when it comes to scoring them so let's not be hard on him and let's not forget that regardless of what happened that night he remains to be among the top 10 players in the world today and no club would refuse to have him in their team Cool

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July 02, 2021, 08:15:08 AM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
Are we suppose to crucify the young lad for that missed penalty...I don't think So!

Besides no one player has a perfect record when it comes to scoring them so let's not be hard on him and let's not forget that regardless of what happened that night he remains to be among the top 10 players in the world today and no club would refuse to have him in their team Cool

Mbappe is a great player. Any team must want to have such a player in their squad. Mbappe missed the penalty, before that see how the other players on the team performed. Did anyone think this match would go up to a penalty kick? Throughout the match, the Swiss players performed better than the French players.

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July 02, 2021, 10:35:28 AM
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Mbappe is a great player. Any team must want to have such a player in their squad. Mbappe missed the penalty, before that see how the other players on the team performed. Did anyone think this match would go up to a penalty kick? Throughout the match, the Swiss players performed better than the French players.
Players who readily to do penalty kicks are brave and succeed or fail, they should be respected for their bravery.

Johan Cruyff does not want to do penalty kicks because he thought it is huge pressure and after 120 minutes, his foot are not good to do such kicks. I say this not to protect Mbappe but I only want to discuss about another thing in penalty kick and what players have to face with.

Some coaches do substitutions at the end of second extra half just to do penalty kicks. They want to replace tired players with strong ones, just for one kick.

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July 02, 2021, 03:00:55 PM
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Mbappe is a great player. Any team must want to have such a player in their squad. Mbappe missed the penalty, before that see how the other players on the team performed. Did anyone think this match would go up to a penalty kick? Throughout the match, the Swiss players performed better than the French players.
Players who readily to do penalty kicks are brave and succeed or fail, they should be respected for their bravery.

Johan Cruyff does not want to do penalty kicks because he thought it is huge pressure and after 120 minutes, his foot are not good to do such kicks. I say this not to protect Mbappe but I only want to discuss about another thing in penalty kick and what players have to face with.

Some coaches do substitutions at the end of second extra half just to do penalty kicks. They want to replace tired players with strong ones, just for one kick.
Any player can miss a penalty irrespective of how good the players is, it is normal in the field of soccer the likes of Aguero, Ronaldo etc had also once lost a penalty, Mbappe just had a bad day he was unlucky that day having missed some glaring chances, of course he had a good game for the french team in the last World cup, the Swiss tried their best to curtail all the attacks by the french team in fact Koema hit the woodwork towards the end of the match when both teams are at level 3:3 however a good penalty taker can play it even after playing all the 120 minutes, it is only a goalkeeper that is a specialist in saving penalty are always introduced toward the end of a match that might likely lead to penalty.

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July 02, 2021, 05:02:22 PM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
Are we suppose to crucify the young lad for that missed penalty...I don't think So!

Besides no one player has a perfect record when it comes to scoring them so let's not be hard on him and let's not forget that regardless of what happened that night he remains to be among the top 10 players in the world today and no club would refuse to have him in their team Cool

Mbappe is a great player. Any team must want to have such a player in their squad. Mbappe missed the penalty, before that see how the other players on the team performed. Did anyone think this match would go up to a penalty kick? Throughout the match, the Swiss players performed better than the French players.
Penalty is not the way to know good or bad player how ever many other player can take penalty, Mbappe have announce not extended new contract with PSG where left one season, next season he will be free transfer player, depend on PSG want to sell Mbappe right now or left next year without any transfer coming to PSG, better management sell Mbappe before nothing get if become free transfer player.

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July 02, 2021, 09:34:00 PM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
Are we suppose to crucify the young lad for that missed penalty...I don't think So!

Besides no one player has a perfect record when it comes to scoring them so let's not be hard on him and let's not forget that regardless of what happened that night he remains to be among the top 10 players in the world today and no club would refuse to have him in their team Cool
I believe it is not just about missing one penalty, which is already bad because one penalty is not a problem if it happens during the game and you still end up winning, versus missing one penalty that decides you are eliminated or not. However he didn't provide anything all through the tournament at all, he was basically bad all season, he wasn't playing that awesome in the league, he wasn't awesome in champions league, dude had a bad season overall.

This doesn't make him a bad player, not at all and anyone who thinks that Mbappe is a bad player just because of one bad season is kidding themselves. However when you are at the top of the worlds best players list, having just one bad season could drop your value a bit, I mean it is still one of the biggest names, but the difference between 200-250 million to 170 million is a huge difference which I suppose might happened to him because of all the seasons form.

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July 02, 2021, 11:10:42 PM
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Mbappe is still a good player no matter what happens, other best clubs will still want him even if he has missed such penalty, in football, such happens.
Are we suppose to crucify the young lad for that missed penalty...I don't think So!

Besides no one player has a perfect record when it comes to scoring them so let's not be hard on him and let's not forget that regardless of what happened that night he remains to be among the top 10 players in the world today and no club would refuse to have him in their team Cool

Mbappe is a great player. Any team must want to have such a player in their squad. Mbappe missed the penalty, before that see how the other players on the team performed. Did anyone think this match would go up to a penalty kick? Throughout the match, the Swiss players performed better than the French players.
Penalty is not the way to know good or bad player how ever many other player can take penalty, Mbappe have announce not extended new contract with PSG where left one season, next season he will be free transfer player, depend on PSG want to sell Mbappe right now or left next year without any transfer coming to PSG, better management sell Mbappe before nothing get if become free transfer player.
If we are to give a player the attribute of been a "good player" it have to be someone who's will do so well in every aspect on the pitch of play. A player who's not good in penalty can't be called a good player.
The President of PSG (Al-Khelaifi) insisted Mbappe will not leave the club on a free transfer but I don't know how they are planning to make that happen maybe they have already sorted it out.

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July 02, 2021, 11:35:37 PM
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If we are to give a player the attribute of been a "good player" it have to be someone who's will do so well in every aspect on the pitch of play. A player who's not good in penalty can't be called a good player.
The President of PSG (Al-Khelaifi) insisted Mbappe will not leave the club on a free transfer but I don't know how they are planning to make that happen maybe they have already sorted it out.
I don't think that a good player should be a universal master in all aspects of the game of football and in all playing positions. Although, of course, any English club and not only English would be happy to sign a contract with such a player. I hope that no one will argue, Leo Messi, with all his status clearly above the status of a good player, is not the best player in defensive actions. It is not for nothing that in football not all eleven players of the team are engaged in punching eleven-meter shots in turn, and the players who clearly succeed in this than other players, we will not take the recent Europa League final, because this is a slightly different case Wink I am also becoming interested in finding out exactly how the president of Paris Saint-Germain can force Mbappe out of the club for free next season. I would really like to hear the opinions of other people on this issue.
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July 03, 2021, 04:34:51 AM
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If we are to give a player the attribute of been a "good player" it have to be someone who's will do so well in every aspect on the pitch of play. A player who's not good in penalty can't be called a good player.


Hahaha. mate, I can't accept your logic. Can you show me a player who didn't miss a penalty? Everyone missed the penalty. Messi, Ronaldo, and Pele every legendary player missed penalties. Now wouldn’t you call them good players? So there is no good player in the world?

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