Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[fuguebtc]

It can't be denied, that Manchester United now is not the Manchester United we know in their golden age. This team has changed a lot in every way in my opinion. But I still believe that they will achieve success again even though I don't know that time will come.
And that might be one of the reasons some players don't want to join them, because they're not doing well.

I don't think that's the reason. So far De Jong feels comfortable at Barcelona. He can also appear regularly in barcelona, ​​even Barca will play in the UCL. I think the problem is Barca's financial regulations and debt that makes Barca want to sell him. Actually at this time Man United has been in the hands of a different coach. With a different style, the players also respect him. So I'm a bit optimistic they are better than last season. But it doesn't matter, Ten Hag seems to have an alternative to buy Antony but Ajax charge a pretty high price. Because they have bought Martinez from Ajax too.

A team that is eligible to play in the Champions League is always more likely to be favored by the players. This is compared to a team that is not qualified to play in the Champions League. Moreover, I believe that's not the only reason why Frenkie de Jong did not want to join the Manchester United team.

The player expressed his desire to play for Barcelona because the club is his dream team. And at first, I thought he was just saying that to get a handsome salary from Barcelona but as he did not actually move in the end I am quite convinced that he was telling the truth. And it is obviously true that Manchester United is not a very strong team right now.

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[emrecemsan]

Manchester United shouldn't waste their time with the Frenkie de Jong deal if they are still having problems on finishing up the agreement. Because the season is almost upon us as there are two weeks to go. Their second option is Milinkovic-Savic indeed. I don't know how much willing Lazio are to sell one of their most valuable players. I wonder how much they ask for him. Manchester United were ready to pay more than 80 million euros for de Jong so they should be planning the same at least for Milinkovic-Savic as well.

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If Ronaldo has no confidence later after being forced to stay at Manchester United, will it be better to work with other teams? I doubt it because of his desire to leave even though Ten Hag has a good plan but Ronaldo's feeling is that he still wants to focus on going out so pre-season is left behind.

But if Ronaldo wants to keep going and as it was rumored to Atletico Madrid whether there will be quality players like Manchester United, I don't think Manchester United is better for now than Atletico.

Ronaldo still has not given clear clarification whether he will go to Atletico Madrid in this summer window or he will stay with Manchester United. It seems that there is no coercion from Manchester United and also from Erik to withstand Ronaldo from leaving Manchester United because rumors circulating Manchester allow Ronaldo to go to Atletico Madrid on one condition, namely signing a contract extension.
Today Ronaldo seems to have returned to Manchester United to talk about his future. Ronaldo may throw away his ego to play in the champions league next season and he may listen to a little whisper from Erik to stay with Manchester United next season.

[blackened515]

Klopp credits Darwin Nunez efforts against their friendly game against RB Leipzig. Liverpool won their opponents with a thrilling 5-0 victory. Although, Darwin scored 4 goals coming in from the bench in the second half of the game. That's spells a good starts for the new attacker, it seems he's starting to get use to the team pattern of play and very fast to adapt to it. However, I probably think the upcoming season will definitely be more productive for the great player.

[SatoPrincess]

Chelsea have declined both in performance and reputation since the change of the club's ownership. I also saw the post match interview of Thomas Tuchel obviously, he is not happy with the club for their lack of seriousness and ruthlessness in the transfer, he also mentioned that the club is supposed to be getting the players to bond now before the start of the league but until they still have gotten enough signings which isn't good for the progress of the team.

[jaberwock]

According to rumours Firmino have got an offer from Juventus which is worth 19.5 million pounds. However Liverpool are indecisive about selling him or not. If they do so they might need to fill his place with a rotation player. There is Diogo Jota also who can play as a centre-forward but he is mainly a winger. He would be the only alternative for Nunez if they don't sign anyone. Liverpool have seemed positive about selling Firmino lately actually so they might agree upon a deal with Juventus.

If the rumors are true, it will be a good move for Firmino. I would love to see him take up a new challenge is career as it already feels like his time at Liverpool is coming to an end, he is no longer as valued and important in the team as he was few years back and a move now will be good for him, he needs a new atmosphere and a new experience at the level in his career and I believe he will happy to take on a new challenge elsewhere.

These are no rumors because right now both managements are in talk about this transfer, and surely it's going to be good for Firmino because in last season he has not enough time for playing into Liverpool and now with the arrival of few players same are going to happen to him with this all it's better he leaves and have another good club which is going to be good for his career because if this deal ended in good way then surely Juventus and Firmino both in good side.

Liverpool is already having few more good options, so they are also in good position to sell this player and having good price which is going to help in future as right now many clubs are facing some big burden of high salaries, and they are also had same problem.

[Gosgosking]

Actually Cristiano Ronaldo can be a lethal weapon if he is in a team and playmates who have the same vision. He has proven that at Real Madrid, if you say his ambition can destroy his career I can't justify that, because in fact players play with big ambitions. I still hope he will stay at Manchester United.

I think Ronaldo would be doing decent in the short term in United, and that is why I would be shocked if he decided to leave the team and go somewhere terrible. At the end of the day, he is a good player but he could not really change a whole team just by himself anymore. His times in Real Madrid was until he was like 30-35 range and wasn't something big, then he left to Juventus when he got a bit older.

I am not saying that he is bad at all, he is good, he is even great but this doesn't mean that we shouldn't really expect him to score a bunch of goals and get the team to a cup or something like that, he would be just decent and we need to respect that by now.

Ronaldo changing club to another is not to help the club he wants to move to win Champions League but he is changing a club for his own personal interest. If any club thinks signing Ronaldo will help to win Champions League,  I think that' is a wrong plan to make.

[BuNga_cute]

Klopp credits Darwin Nunez efforts against their friendly game against RB Leipzig. Liverpool won their opponents with a thrilling 5-0 victory. Although, Darwin scored 4 goals coming in from the bench in the second half of the game. That's spells a good starts for the new attacker, it seems he's starting to get use to the team pattern of play and very fast to adapt to it. However, I probably think the upcoming season will definitely be more productive for the great player.

Liverpool's big win against Leipzig was very memorable for Klopp, because Darwin Nunez who was bought expensively this year by Liverpool began
to show good performance by scoring 4 goals. This means that Klopp is probably not wrong in choosing players, Darwin Nunez could be an important
player for Liverpool next season and help Liverpool win many trophies. Although I think it's still too early to judge Darwin Nunez's performance
in the friendly match, because scoring goals in the Premier League of course will be more difficult. So to assess Darwin Nunez's ability to score goals,
have to see his performance when playing in the Premier League competition in several matches. But so far Klopp has rarely failed in signing players,
most of the players who were brought in by Klopp managed to make a sizeable contribution to Liverpool. I hope Darwin Nunez can be Liverpool's
top goalscorer, because to be able to win many trophies of course Liverpool need a very productive striker, I hope Darwin Nunez can prove it.

[Yogee]

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Why buy overrated players with a huge amount of money? It's one thing to have potential, and quite another to be overrated.

Stuffs like these are a matter of opinion. There are also some trades that I thought expensive. You may not see him as worthy of that money but the appraisal of these players does not depend on us. It's probably just common for any team to start asking for a high price to have a better leverage once they start negotiation with interested teams.

[Velvet78]

Chelsea are still determined to sign another centre-back even though they aren't in need of such player immediately now. They are searching for a starting eleven player obviously. In case their plans to sign Kounde don't work then there are many options on the table. These options are Pau Torres, Milan Skriniar, Josko Gvardiol, Dayot Upamecano and Benjamin Pavard. It would be really difficult for them to pick one of them. By the way I don't think that Bayern Munich would let Upamecano go after completing the duo with him and de Ligt in defense.

[S A KHAIR]

What is certain for the two places in one and two will be dominated by Manchester City and Liverpool, well the competition for the two places below it will probably be a long competition throughout the season. Because apart from Tottenham, Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal at least there are other teams that also have the potential to penetrate that position. I'm considering how Newcastle came back in the second half of last season, I don't have much of their transfer record but I'm sure those with rich holdings can have the ability to compete for higher ground next season.

I wouldn't write down Liverpool in top two automatically. Manchester City is OK in top two but I'd see bigger competition this season. Arsenal is gaining great as you can witness from their USA camp. They will be a bigger threat to everybody.
Arsenal also has a good fixture and we might see them on top after fifth week. If they carry their friendly performance to league games there is no reason for them to lose points in first couple of games.

I am going to agree with @hahay, because I know the English Premier League is the most competitive in the whole world right now. But I also think that Liverpool is better than Arsenal and Chelsea. I don’t think Arsenal and Chelsea have what it takes to beat Liverpool even though Arsenal had made some big changes in the team.

They are obviously a lot stronger than before. But I still think that Liverpool is going to be in the top 2. Now, am I doubt that decision? Yes of course I am. But at the same time, I also have good confidence that Manchester City and Liverpool are going to finish in the top two.

[AndySt]

Chelsea have declined both in performance and reputation since the change of the club's ownership. I also saw the post match interview of Thomas Tuchel obviously, he is not happy with the club for their lack of seriousness and ruthlessness in the transfer, he also mentioned that the club is supposed to be getting the players to bond now before the start of the league but until they still have gotten enough signings which isn't good for the progress of the team.

Well, Tuchel does have some right to be dissatisfied, but on the other hand, it was difficult to expect anything else in the circumstances that were at that turbulent time for the club. Due to the change of ownership and all sorts of restrictions for conducting financial transactions, the club generally risked not conducting a full-fledged transfer campaign at all, and some of the players decided at that time to change the club or vice versa to prefer other options for continuing their careers rather than moving to Chelsea. It is clear to everyone that the transfer campaign is not done in a matter of days and preliminary work on the market is carried out in advance. On the other hand, it is clear that Tuchel's opinion is taken into account and it is because of this that Ronaldo's potential transfer to the club seems to have been rejected.

[kawetsriyanto]

Chelsea have declined both in performance and reputation since the change of the club's ownership. I also saw the post match interview of Thomas Tuchel obviously, he is not happy with the club for their lack of seriousness and ruthlessness in the transfer, he also mentioned that the club is supposed to be getting the players to bond now before the start of the league but until they still have gotten enough signings which isn't good for the progress of the team.

Tuchel is right that Chelsea management isn't very serious to get targetted players in this transfer window. There are already some targetted players stolen by Barcelona, so Chelsea failed several times to sign the new players. It is a very serious problem, they won't get any player if they are not serious. Chelsea has a lack of quality CB and CF, they should sign a top center-back like Kounde and sign a top CF to improve their performance. It is true that their current performance is soo badly, they are not ready to begin EPL competition if no additional top players.

[Ahli38]

Chelsea have declined both in performance and reputation since the change of the club's ownership. I also saw the post match interview of Thomas Tuchel obviously, he is not happy with the club for their lack of seriousness and ruthlessness in the transfer, he also mentioned that the club is supposed to be getting the players to bond now before the start of the league but until they still have gotten enough signings which isn't good for the progress of the team.

Tuchel is right that Chelsea management isn't very serious to get targetted players in this transfer window. There are already some targetted players stolen by Barcelona, so Chelsea failed several times to sign the new players. It is a very serious problem, they won't get any player if they are not serious. Chelsea has a lack of quality CB and CF, they should sign a top center-back like Kounde and sign a top CF to improve their performance. It is true that their current performance is soo badly, they are not ready to begin EPL competition if no additional top players.

correctly. if chelsea can't raise its bid again to get kounde then it will be another defeat for chelsea. chelsea some time ago had excelled in bidding, namely chelsea offering 55 million euros. and Barcelona seems to have given up. but some time ago there was news that it turns out that kounde is closer to joining barcelona. because it turns out that Barcelona have raised their bid again, which is around 60 million euros. I don't know if this news can be trusted or not. but if chelsea lose again in this transfer market in the fight for jules kounde. then chelsea fans will definitely be disappointed once again.
although chelsea is clearly in dire need of this player. then chelsea should be much more daring to raise their bid price to get Jules kounde.

[Sebas.tian]

Manchester United shouldn't waste their time with the Frenkie de Jong deal if they are still having problems on finishing up the agreement. Because the season is almost upon us as there are two weeks to go. Their second option is Milinkovic-Savic indeed. I don't know how much willing Lazio are to sell one of their most valuable players. I wonder how much they ask for him. Manchester United were ready to pay more than 80 million euros for de Jong so they should be planning the same at least for Milinkovic-Savic as well.

I believe, they will definitely release frenkie de Jong to Manchester united because many teams that wish to have him in their team don't have such amount of money Manchester united what to sign him in this season. Manchester united coach prefer frenkie de Jong than milinkovic-savic that is why he don't what to give up on frenkie de Jong in this season than to do everything possible within his power to bring him into the team. Manchester united will definitely increase higher in next season with those potential squads they have successfully brought into the team.

[harapan]

I believe, they will definitely release frenkie de Jong to Manchester united because many teams that wish to have him in their team don't have such amount of money Manchester united what to sign him in this season. Manchester united coach prefer frenkie de Jong than milinkovic-savic that is why he don't what to give up on frenkie de Jong in this season than to do everything possible within his power to bring him into the team. Manchester united will definitely increase higher in next season with those potential squads they have successfully brought into the team.

You may be right about Barcelona giving away frenkie de jong to Manchester United. Many teams do want him but can all the other teams drop a bid on the table like Manchester United can? No doubt he is a great player and that’s why lots of teams are vying for his presence on their squad. Manchester United is in the forefront in the line of teams trying to get the player and I think they might just get him.

[MCobian]

Manchester United shouldn't waste their time with the Frenkie de Jong deal if they are still having problems on finishing up the agreement. Because the season is almost upon us as there are two weeks to go. Their second option is Milinkovic-Savic indeed. I don't know how much willing Lazio are to sell one of their most valuable players. I wonder how much they ask for him. Manchester United were ready to pay more than 80 million euros for de Jong so they should be planning the same at least for Milinkovic-Savic as well.

I believe, they will definitely release frenkie de Jong to Manchester united because many teams that wish to have him in their team don't have such amount of money Manchester united what to sign him in this season. Manchester united coach prefer frenkie de Jong than milinkovic-savic that is why he don't what to give up on frenkie de Jong in this season than to do everything possible within his power to bring him into the team. Manchester united will definitely increase higher in next season with those potential squads they have successfully brought into the team.

Man United will not give up so easily to convince De Jong to leave Barcelona. Because since Erik ten Hag became Man United coach, Frenkie De Jong
was Man United's main target in this summer's transfer market. Moreover, Barcelona and Man United have agreed on the transfer fee for De Jong's
move, meaning that Man United only needs to convince De Jong to move. But it looks like the chances of Man United convincing De Jong to want to
join are increasingly impossible, after bad news that Xavi managed to convince De Jong to agree to a 50% pay cut if he wanted to stay at Barcelona.
In addition, Xavi is also rumored to want to keep De Jong in the 2022/2023 season. Although it is not yet official for De Jong to receive a pay cut
from Barcelona, Man United feels need to look for other alternatives.

According to the Italian Football report, Man United is now trying to target Sergej Milinkovic-Savic who is a mainstay midfielder from Lazio. In fact,
Man United had in the past made an offer of 100 million euros to get Milinkovic-Savic, unfortunately at that time Cladio Lolito refused the offer.
Milinkovic-Savic has been an important figure in the Lazio squad since 2015, and until now a player who has a big contribution to Lazio. So far
Milinkovic-Savic has played 294 in various competitions, with 58 goals and 51 assists, that's a remarkable record for a midfielder.
It doesn't seem like it will be easy for Man United to get Milinkovic-Savic, it is possible that Lazio will again refuse an offer from Man United.

[CryptocurencyKing]

According to rumours Firmino have got an offer from Juventus which is worth 19.5 million pounds. However Liverpool are indecisive about selling him or not. If they do so they might need to fill his place with a rotation player. There is Diogo Jota also who can play as a centre-forward but he is mainly a winger. He would be the only alternative for Nunez if they don't sign anyone. Liverpool have seemed positive about selling Firmino lately actually so they might agree upon a deal with Juventus.

If the rumors are true, it will be a good move for Firmino. I would love to see him take up a new challenge is career as it already feels like his time at Liverpool is coming to an end, he is no longer as valued and important in the team as he was few years back and a move now will be good for him, he needs a new atmosphere and a new experience at the level in his career and I believe he will happy to take on a new challenge elsewhere.

It does look like Liverpool were hesitant about selling the Firmino when Juventus tabled their initial bid, and it is believed Juventus are now willing to up their offer. The World Cup is coming, he needs regular football and since Liverpool didn’t offer him that last season Juventus will offer him more first team football. Besides he has entered the final year of his contract, and he has won everything at Liverpool, he should equally move for a new challenge like how Mane did.

[Fawwaz wildan]

It does look like Liverpool were hesitant about selling the Firmino when Juventus tabled their initial bid, and it is believed Juventus are now willing to up their offer. The World Cup is coming, he needs regular football and since Liverpool didn’t offer him that last season Juventus will offer him more first team football. Besides he has entered the final year of his contract, and he has won everything at Liverpool, he should equally move for a new challenge like how Mane did.

Roberto Firmino is still an important player for Liverpool, I think for this season Liverpool will try to keep him unless they get a high offer. The arrival of Luiz Diaz and Darwin Nunez is indeed good for Liverpool. But losing two senior players (Mane and Firmino) simultaneously is not a good thing for Liverpool.

[cygan]

fc southampton has made the signing of Sekou Mara official. the french attacker, who so far has 34 ligue 1 games (seven goals), moves from girondins bordeaux to the club of coach Ralph Hasenhüttl and receives a 4-year contract. the saints will transfer €13 million to the french club.

btw @Trofo
please change the thread title in 2022/2023