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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (50.6%)
Liverpool - 12 (15.2%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.8%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.1%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
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July 30, 2023, 03:40:20 PM
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Man United has already signed Rasmus Hojlund, so it can be assumed they won't be going after Harry Kane anymore. His performance will indeed be questioned because he is not yet considered a world-class striker and competition in the Premier League is clearly much different from Serie A. But I think Ten Hag must have had a reason for being so insistent on bringing Hojlund to Old Trafford.

Rasmus Hojlund did not record an impressive performance in Serie A but this player can be relied upon in European competition last season he scored one goal in 2 matches in the Champions League Qualifying and his best achievement was when he played for Denmark scored 6 goals from 6 matches, based on these statistics Ten Hag knew what he had to do to improve Rasmus Hojlund performance. Indeed, in the first season we can't expect much from him because he definitely needs adaptation the same thing when he played in Serie A.

Imagine if Ten Hag managed to polish this player maybe he can become Haaland competitor because he has almost the same criteria based on posture and he still has a long way to go at 20 years old. At first I thought €70 million was too much for this player but in the end I realized his talent.

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July 30, 2023, 03:53:21 PM
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Man United has already signed Rasmus Hojlund, so it can be assumed they won't be going after Harry Kane anymore. His performance will indeed be questioned because he is not yet considered a world-class striker and competition in the Premier League is clearly much different from Serie A. But I think Ten Hag must have had a reason for being so insistent on bringing Hojlund to Old Trafford.
Of course Ten Hag had good reasons why he really wanted Hojlund to be in the squad he led, as a coach he could see something valuable in Hojlund so his presence was really needed in the Manchester United squad. Actually Kane is a good choice for Manchester United, he has been tested in the Premier League and did not take long to adapt to the new environment at Manchester United. Players from outside the Premier League need to adapt to a fast style of play that relies more on physicality, hopefully Ten Hag won't make a blunder like Klopp who brought Nunez to Liverpool.

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July 30, 2023, 03:53:31 PM
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Previously, Manchester City managed to get consecutive wins in two pre-season games and today, in the third match of the pre-season, they had to lose against Atletico Madrid with a score of 1-2. Actually I didn't watch this match, but if I look at the match statistics, both teams performed the same as their main squad and in the second half all the players were replaced by second-tier players. But it seems that in this match Atletico Madrid can slightly outperform Manchester City and this narrow defeat isn't too bad either.
Not that bad because Atletico Madrid use all of their best eleven players, while Manchester City still not use their best eleven players, especially Alvarez was always being a super subs and now he forced to replace Kevin De Bruyne's position. He also playing for full time, he's not yet comfortable to play so that long.
However what we can see in Manchester City's three friendly matches is Kovacic can't replace Gundongan's position.

Manchester City's squad was very strong and stable. The team was not dependent on any particular player. But Guardiola can now understand Gundagan's absence very well. Manchester City lost 2-1 against Atletico Madrid in today's match. I expected more organized gameplay from Manchester City. But today we did not get the expected good performance from Manchester City. They attacked a lot. Even then Manchester City team could not win. However, Guardiola is experienced enough. I think he needs to solve the internal problems of the team before the start of the season.

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July 30, 2023, 03:58:54 PM
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Have rumor with Liverpool bid offer above 180 million euro for signing Mbappe, but want to play for Liverpool not participants in Champion League? I don't think have excited for Mbappe although more expensive payment fees offer from Liverpool because can't play in Champion League competition is not interested for Mbappe. I have predicting about Mbappe future and seems accurate due he has denied with several offering from Saudi Pro League until Liverpool, he wants play with teams who participant in Champion League and have bigger chance become the winner, prefer he want stay one year left with  PSG until his contract over and becoming free agent is an easy way for Mbappe choosing his future team.

I would like to see Liverpool sign Mbappe. But Liverpool were inconsistent last season. It is not clear what they will do this season. For this reason, Mbappe would not prefer Liverpool in my opinion. But Salah, Mbappe and Nunez would make a great offensive line. On the other hand, Paris Saint-Germain will lose Mbappe without a transfer fee. This will be a huge handicap and a huge loss of prestige for them. They might have to leave Mbappe out of the squad for the whole season. If they can't sell him to another team, that's the best punishment they can give him. And I think they should do this.

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July 30, 2023, 04:29:08 PM
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Man United has already signed Rasmus Hojlund, so it can be assumed they won't be going after Harry Kane anymore. His performance will indeed be questioned because he is not yet considered a world-class striker and competition in the Premier League is clearly much different from Serie A. But I think Ten Hag must have had a reason for being so insistent on bringing Hojlund to Old Trafford.
I think Hojlund is a good signing and Ten Hag probably thought it was too risky to sign Harry Kane from Tottenham. In terms of quality, Kane is indeed better than Hojlund, but spending up to 100 million euros for players who are entering the age of 30 is not the right move. Kane could have stayed at his best playing level for the next three seasons, but on condition that he didn't get injured. Of course this is what underlies Ten Hag not insisting on recruiting him because Kane cannot make a contribution in the long term.

On the other hand, Hojlund who is only 20 years old, is cheaper than Kane and has better development potential. And of course the risk of losing in recruiting him is not comparable to Kane, if Hojlund cannot live up to expectations United can easily let him go to another club.

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July 30, 2023, 04:29:35 PM
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Previously, Manchester City managed to get consecutive wins in two pre-season games and today, in the third match of the pre-season, they had to lose against Atletico Madrid with a score of 1-2. Actually I didn't watch this match, but if I look at the match statistics, both teams performed the same as their main squad and in the second half all the players were replaced by second-tier players. But it seems that in this match Atletico Madrid can slightly outperform Manchester City and this narrow defeat isn't too bad either.
Not that bad because Atletico Madrid use all of their best eleven players, while Manchester City still not use their best eleven players, especially Alvarez was always being a super subs and now he forced to replace Kevin De Bruyne's position. He also playing for full time, he's not yet comfortable to play so that long.

However what we can see in Manchester City's three friendly matches is Kovacic can't replace Gundongan's position.
Naturally, if Alvarez took De Bruyne's position even though it was not his original position. I think Pep Guardiola is trying something new and with this result he will definitely evaluate all the players' performance, including giving an optional position when needed in the team. Maybe Kovacic still needs to adapt to his colleagues and does need time to replace the important role that has been left by Gundogan. Of course, Manchester City doesn't want to be like last season, which had bad results in the midst of competition with Arsenal, and they are very good at fixing the problem so they can win the EPL title again.
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July 30, 2023, 04:56:23 PM
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Every single season people look at other teams and get hyped with a possibility of City losing, and every year City ends up winning it in the end. I keep telling people, distribute these players all of them to other teams, and I mean like really good last 16 of UCL type of teams, and you will see over half of them will lose most of their value within first 2 years, sure there are some like De Bruyne and Haaland who would be good anywhere unless they are used terribly by some terrible manager, they are good anywhere, but the worth of that team comes from Pep, and his magic.

They do not even worth a billion dollars really, maybe 600-700 million at most, but when Pep puts them together, they are the best team in the world.
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July 30, 2023, 06:14:03 PM
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If they succeed in bringing in Osimhen, then it is certain that Manchester United will have perfect strength, because as we know, his quality is no longer in doubt on the pitch, and he is the best option for competition next season. But the thing is, I'm not sure Ten Hag will be able to meet Napoli's price clause which is in excess of $100 million. Meanwhile for Hojlund I would not expect more, because this is indeed a ridiculous deal that has been done by Manchester United. If we look at his performance last year at his previous club, there really wasn't anything impressive about him. I don't know what was the reason why Manchester United wanted to sign him. But really, let's see in the next season, if there will be something interesting from his performance.

Maybe yes, maybe not, because we don't know how Osimhen did when playing in the Premier League. for me Osimhen has not yet tested his toughness, he must first prove whether he is worthy or not. even so, after all at least this Napoli player has a strong character to become a bigger star. maybe, with Manchester United Osimhen will be much greater. but if only, if Man United were acquired by Qatar, to bring Osimhen to Old Trafford is not a serious problem.
for me, Kane is the most perfect choice. apart from knowing very well the characteristics of the league competition, Kane was able to quickly adapt to The Red Devils. unfortunately, Spurs are not going to let him go to their rivals if United have the funds to bring him to Old Trafford.

Speaking of Hojlund, I don't really know the characteristics of Serie A players. but if I had to guess and judge Ten Hag's decision, it seems that there is no ideal choice for him with a limited budget. Kane, Osimhen, were too expensive, and the alternative choice fell on the Atalanta striker.  at least, he is young and his talent can still be honed. so, Ten Hag is not fixated on always relying on Marcus Rashford.  thus, for now United's main problem has been solved. now, we are just waiting to see how Hojlund will play under Erik Ten Hag. we'll see, if this is the right purchase, or if he needs time to develop.

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July 30, 2023, 06:17:40 PM
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It's not about who has made the offer and who has not. Can Liverpool buy him if they make PSG a bid below or 100m? I don't think so... PSG value him at least more than 150m Euro and they want to get back that value out of his sale. Until they get that amount I don't think so that they are going to sell Mbappe. Can Liverpool match that? - is a big question but given so far how much they have spent, I don't think Mbappe is in their plans (I could be wrong though).

Also even if they match that value they also have to convince the player so that's another thing they have to work on. I am inclined towards Mbappe to Madrid right now but not in this transfer window and maybe next year.
Have rumor with Liverpool bid offer above 180 million euro for signing Mbappe, but want to play for Liverpool not participants in Champion League? I don't think have excited for Mbappe although more expensive payment fees offer from Liverpool because can't play in Champion League competition is not interested for Mbappe. I have predicting about Mbappe future and seems accurate due he has denied with several offering from Saudi Pro League until Liverpool, he wants play with teams who participant in Champion League and have bigger chance become the winner, prefer he want stay one year left with  PSG until his contract over and becoming free agent is an easy way for Mbappe choosing his future team.
Yes, I agree with that, regardless of the big offer from Liverpool, but now we also have to think realistically that Mbappe is one of the best players in the world, of course he will really take care of his career to be able to continue to improve while Liverpool is currently a team that is in a slump and even they will not play in the UCL next season, it is really very unlikely for Mbappe to want to play at Liverpool in my opinion.

If anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool. And there is no way PSG is going to let Mbappé go for only a 100 million. Real Madrid is the only actual destination for Mbappé in my opinion. Oh and there is no way psg is actually going to let him go for anything less than 180. When someone like Harry Kane is actually going to be sold for 180 million I think PSG is not wrong for asking you that much money for Mbappé.

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Man United has already signed Rasmus Hojlund, so it can be assumed they won't be going after Harry Kane anymore. His performance will indeed be questioned because he is not yet considered a world-class striker and competition in the Premier League is clearly much different from Serie A. But I think Ten Hag must have had a reason for being so insistent on bringing Hojlund to Old Trafford.
Rasmus Højlund had good performances with Atalanta last season, but he is not very well known due to his age and career. Rasmus Højlund is still very young and has good potential to continue to develop into a great striker. He's only 20 years old and maybe Ten Hag really understands how to develop his skills again with Manchester United.

Rasmus Højlund may not be worth the comparison to Hary Kane, but this young striker has the potential to become a world-class striker for Manchester United. Rasmus Højlund scored 9 goals and 2 assists in 32 appearances for Atalanta in Serie A last season, so maybe that's why Ten Hag are interested in bringing him to Old Trafford.

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July 30, 2023, 06:25:41 PM
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It's not about who has made the offer and who has not. Can Liverpool buy him if they make PSG a bid below or 100m? I don't think so... PSG value him at least more than 150m Euro and they want to get back that value out of his sale. Until they get that amount I don't think so that they are going to sell Mbappe. Can Liverpool match that? - is a big question but given so far how much they have spent, I don't think Mbappe is in their plans (I could be wrong though).

Also even if they match that value they also have to convince the player so that's another thing they have to work on. I am inclined towards Mbappe to Madrid right now but not in this transfer window and maybe next year.
Have rumor with Liverpool bid offer above 180 million euro for signing Mbappe, but want to play for Liverpool not participants in Champion League? I don't think have excited for Mbappe although more expensive payment fees offer from Liverpool because can't play in Champion League competition is not interested for Mbappe. I have predicting about Mbappe future and seems accurate due he has denied with several offering from Saudi Pro League until Liverpool, he wants play with teams who participant in Champion League and have bigger chance become the winner, prefer he want stay one year left with  PSG until his contract over and becoming free agent is an easy way for Mbappe choosing his future team.
Yes, I agree with that, regardless of the big offer from Liverpool, but now we also have to think realistically that Mbappe is one of the best players in the world, of course he will really take care of his career to be able to continue to improve while Liverpool is currently a team that is in a slump and even they will not play in the UCL next season, it is really very unlikely for Mbappe to want to play at Liverpool in my opinion.

If anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool. And there is no way PSG is going to let Mbappé go for only a 100 million. Real Madrid is the only actual destination for Mbappé in my opinion. Oh and there is no way psg is actually going to let him go for anything less than 180. When someone like Harry Kane is actually going to be sold for 180 million I think PSG is not wrong for asking you that much money for Mbappé.
I personally understand Kylian Mbappé is under a lot of pressure. Can't leave PSG to join another club and doesn't feel comfortable at PSG. However, if Kylian Mbappe leaves PSG, the situation of the PSG team will deteriorate.

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July 30, 2023, 06:31:59 PM
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If anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool. And there is no way PSG is going to let Mbappé go for only a 100 million. Real Madrid is the only actual destination for Mbappé in my opinion. Oh and there is no way psg is actually going to let him go for anything less than 180. When someone like Harry Kane is actually going to be sold for 180 million I think PSG is not wrong for asking you that much money for Mbappé.
We can expect some big offers from the Saudi Arabian teams, but it looks like Mbappe doesn't want to play in their league. As for Liverpool, they are in talks with PSG about leasing Mbappe for one season, but it is not clear whether this will be of interest to PSG, because after this season Mbappe will become a free agent and leave the team, such an outcome is unlikely to be of interest to PSG, they realized that Mbappe wants to leave the team and definitely want to get a good money for him.

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July 30, 2023, 06:36:11 PM
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If anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool. And there is no way PSG is going to let Mbappé go for only a 100 million. Real Madrid is the only actual destination for Mbappé in my opinion. Oh and there is no way psg is actually going to let him go for anything less than 180. When someone like Harry Kane is actually going to be sold for 180 million I think PSG is not wrong for asking you that much money for Mbappé.
That's right, when I heard rumors that Liverpool were interested in signing Mbappe at that moment I started laughing quite loudly. I think that from a financial point of view Liverpool will not be able to reach Mbappe's price which is above 100 million euros and even that seems to be forcing it. However, even if Liverpool have that much money, it is not certain that Mbappe will accept his offer, considering that he will only be interested in Real Madrid. So yes, I think this news feels like entertainment and doesn't need to be taken too seriously. In the end, Liverpool will still provide quite an interesting fight in the EPL next season with their current recruits.
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LIf anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool.

As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.

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As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.
I don't know, but maybe you're right. I have heard so many complaints about the Liverpool management that it is always difficult to spend a lot of money to build a squad with expensive players. I even agree Liverpool don't need to bring in expensive players every season, but some players need to be brought in to improve and give them a better chance of winning titles.

Liverpool needs to change its tranger habits/policies if it wants to compete with Manchester City and other top teams. Even if they can win titles with the players they are now, Klopp certainly expects him to have a squad that can actually implement his plans every season well. Kylian Mbappe is good for Liverpool, but I agree with your assumption that Liverpool will not sign him from PSG.

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As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.
I don't know, but maybe you're right. I have heard so many complaints about the Liverpool management that it is always difficult to spend a lot of money to build a squad with expensive players. I even agree Liverpool don't need to bring in expensive players every season, but some players need to be brought in to improve and give them a better chance of winning titles.

Liverpool needs to change its tranger habits/policies if it wants to compete with Manchester City and other top teams. Even if they can win titles with the players they are now, Klopp certainly expects him to have a squad that can actually implement his plans every season well. Kylian Mbappe is good for Liverpool, but I agree with your assumption that Liverpool will not sign him from PSG.

Two questions that one who are convinced about Mbappe to Liverpool deal should ask themselves:

Are Liverpool in position to sign Mbappe (no offence to Liverpool fans. And secondly, even if they are then is Mbappe interested in joining Liverpool? To me answer to both is no but majority of those who find Mbappe can still sign for Liverpool will see that there is bit of hurdle if we see for clear.
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I think Hojlund is a good signing and Ten Hag probably thought it was too risky to sign Harry Kane from Tottenham. In terms of quality, Kane is indeed better than Hojlund, but spending up to 100 million euros for players who are entering the age of 30 is not the right move. Kane could have stayed at his best playing level for the next three seasons, but on condition that he didn't get injured. Of course this is what underlies Ten Hag not insisting on recruiting him because Kane cannot make a contribution in the long term.

On the other hand, Hojlund who is only 20 years old, is cheaper than Kane and has better development potential. And of course the risk of losing in recruiting him is not comparable to Kane, if Hojlund cannot live up to expectations United can easily let him go to another club.
But I think 75 Million Euros (plus 10 Million Euros Add-ons) is quite high for a Rasmus Hojlund. Atalanta knows very well that Man United really needs a striker and coincidentally Ten Hag has an interest in Hojlund. This condition is like a golden opportunity for Atalanta because they have a chance to push the transfer value higher than it should be. I hope it won't be a blunder and Rasmus Hojlund can contribute a lot to Man United because, with that high price, the expectation is definitely very high.

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July 30, 2023, 07:27:48 PM
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Two questions that one who are convinced about Mbappe to Liverpool deal should ask themselves:

Are Liverpool in position to sign Mbappe (no offence to Liverpool fans. And secondly, even if they are then is Mbappe interested in joining Liverpool? To me answer to both is no but majority of those who find Mbappe can still sign for Liverpool will see that there is bit of hurdle if we see for clear.
For now I don't think Liverpool will come for Mbappe, nor about Mbappe. So far I only think that Kylian Mbappe will still accept PSG's offer and extend his contract, but for the second option PSG will sell him to interested parties who are willing to pay a high price.

Everyone also knows that Real Madrid is one of the teams Kylian Mbappe has been interested in so far. Real Madrid have the opportunity to sign Mbappe regardless of whether they have to pay a fee or sign him for free, that's a possibility in my mind. Of course I haven't given the latest news regarding Mbappe and any teams he has been linked with, but Liverpool are unlikely to sign him.

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July 30, 2023, 07:31:48 PM
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As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.

Oops, you look down on your team owners so much that you’re so sure they can’t be able to afford Mbappe. But that’s certainly the fact about the whole thing. But even if Mbappe will join a premier league side, it will either be Manchester City or Manchester United. Asides those two teams, I don’t see any team he would feel comfortable to play for in the premier league. We don’t know how this Mbappe and PSG drama is going to end, but at the end, it’ll favour one side and the other side has to just take heart.

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July 30, 2023, 07:42:48 PM
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As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.

Oops, you look down on your team owners so much that you’re so sure they can’t be able to afford Mbappe. But that’s certainly the fact about the whole thing. But even if Mbappe will join a premier league side, it will either be Manchester City or Manchester United. Asides those two teams, I don’t see any team he would feel comfortable to play for in the premier league. We don’t know how this Mbappe and PSG drama is going to end, but at the end, it’ll favour one side and the other side has to just take heart.

I can't come up with a single reason why Mbappe would end up playing for Manchester United. Who was the last player of that category that ended up playing for Manchester United? To be exact there are really only two options that are in line for an Mbappe transfer and that is, as you mentioned, Manchester City and then Real Madrid. Every other club is not what Mbappe wants and also will not surprise is with some magical offer acing out the offers from the two aforementioned clubs. He will either go to La Liga or the Premier League, which means that any good club from another league is out. In La Liga Barcelona will never be able to do it, which leaves Real Madrid only, which is his preferred club as he has said in the past. In the Premier League it is City only in my opinion as it is the only team that has this extra class that Mbappe is looking for.

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