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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
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July 30, 2023, 07:42:55 PM
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I think Hojlund is a good signing and Ten Hag probably thought it was too risky to sign Harry Kane from Tottenham. In terms of quality, Kane is indeed better than Hojlund, but spending up to 100 million euros for players who are entering the age of 30 is not the right move. Kane could have stayed at his best playing level for the next three seasons, but on condition that he didn't get injured. Of course this is what underlies Ten Hag not insisting on recruiting him because Kane cannot make a contribution in the long term.

On the other hand, Hojlund who is only 20 years old, is cheaper than Kane and has better development potential. And of course the risk of losing in recruiting him is not comparable to Kane, if Hojlund cannot live up to expectations United can easily let him go to another club.
But I think 75 Million Euros (plus 10 Million Euros Add-ons) is quite high for a Rasmus Hojlund. Atalanta knows very well that Man United really needs a striker and coincidentally Ten Hag has an interest in Hojlund. This condition is like a golden opportunity for Atalanta because they have a chance to push the transfer value higher than it should be. I hope it won't be a blunder and Rasmus Hojlund can contribute a lot to Man United because, with that high price, the expectation is definitely very high.
The transfer value is too crazy so far it often doesn't even match the quality of the player. Atalanta have clearly benefited greatly by selling Rasmus Hojlund to Manchester United, it has allowed them to buy several other players who are half as valuable. I honestly don't think the transfer fee Manchester United agreed for Rasmus Hojlund was a great deal, but it seems Ten Hag has reasons as to why he was so adamant about signing him.

As one of the most expensive signings, I think Rasmus Hojlund will have great support from Ten Hag next season. Rasmus Hojlund will also come under pressure from fans if he doesn't manage to adapt quickly to Manchester United, that will clearly be a problem for the player.

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July 30, 2023, 07:48:11 PM
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LIf anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool.

As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.

PSG and Liverpool are said to be in talks for Mbappe to play the last year of his contract at Liverpool on loan. But I do not understand how they can interest him in such an option. Liverpool isn't even in the Champions League. As we saw with the rejected proposal from the Saudis, Mbappe is no longer simply lured with money.

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July 30, 2023, 08:00:40 PM
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I have watched liverpool vs leicester city. There's no improvement happened with leicester city. Liverpool is leading the game now with 4-0 score. There are some new players came from liverpool's academy. It's quite entertaining to see how liverpool was humiliating leicester city like it was nothing rather than a mediocre football club. Leicester city's performance has been decreasing a lot. Leicester city becomes even worse than before. I think that if it's the time for leicester city to stay in the championship forever. This is only a friendly match and i can't measure properly how strong liverpool is right now. It's caused by it was only facing the garbage team.

It seemed to me if leicester city will never ever able promoted to the EPL again. The era for leicester city already gone. The club must have started from the bottom again. Leicester city has sold many its important players.

Liverpool's performance is quite good at this moment.



I did not have the chance to watch the game but looking at the stats, it shows Liverpool were completely dominant in the game against Leicester City. They recorded 26 shots against 8, 63 against 37 ball possession and 645 passes against 397. The stats shows how poor Leicester City performed in this game, this is not the level of performance I expect from a team who have something to prove. If this is the way they will perform next season then I don’t see them returning to the EPL next year.

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July 30, 2023, 08:20:18 PM
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PSG and Liverpool are said to be in talks for Mbappe to play the last year of his contract at Liverpool on loan. But I do not understand how they can interest him in such an option. Liverpool isn't even in the Champions League. As we saw with the rejected proposal from the Saudis, Mbappe is no longer simply lured with money.
It is not as if Mbappe is not lured by money, of course money plays an important role in how footballers make decisions regarding their career. Mbappe was never going to move to Saudi Arabia because he is very young and one of the best players in the world, he is also already one of the highest paid footballers in the world in PSG and he also earns a huge amount in loyalty bonuses.

Liverpool can't even afford to pay Mbappe's wages for one year, thus there is no chance in hell that he is going to Anfield, Mbappe is either staying in PSG or moving to Real Madrid, i don't think there are any other feasible options.

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July 30, 2023, 08:24:36 PM
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Honestly Osimen should have been a better option for Man Utd though Osimen might cost them more than $100M, however he is a profilic striker who had already proved his worth in Seria A and UCL respectively he will deliver for Man Utd better than Hojlund who joined Atalanta in August last year and had only 10 goals to his credit, can he cope with the standard of EPL? well time will tell, I hope his signing wouldn't be another waste of fund by the club for an untested striker probably Man Utd wanted another striker in shape of Halaand of Man City because of their height he is 6 ft 3 in while Halaand  is 6 ft 4 in.

Yes I’m also of the opinion that Osimhen would have been the best man to fill in as centre forward for Manchester United but after considering the cost of acquiring Victor Osimhen and the possibility that Napoli might not be interested in selling, the club decided to opt for other alternatives for that position and decided on signing Hojlund as the player to lead their attack next season

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July 30, 2023, 08:27:40 PM
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LIf anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool.

As a lifelong Liverpool fan I can confirm. There is absolutely zero chance our cheap ass owners facilitate a deal for Mbappe. It is never going to happen.

He will either sign a new deal with PSG or go on a free transfer next season to Real Madrid.

I think we have had enough signs from him that he’s not going to sign a new contract with PSG. Either he is leaving after the contract is over. He is going to be sold now. If he is sold now by PSG, they are going to get a good amount of money for him. But if he is not sold right now and he does not sign the contract extension. I think that is going to be a bad news for PSG.

And I absolutely agree with you. There is no chance for Liverpool to actually spend that much money for him. Even though they know that if they do spend that money it is probably going to be worth it for them. And I also do not think that it is like they absolutely cannot afford to spend such money. They can spend their money if they want to. They are just too stupid to do it.



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July 30, 2023, 08:32:22 PM
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It is not as if Mbappe is not lured by money, of course money plays an important role in how footballers make decisions regarding their career. Mbappe was never going to move to Saudi Arabia because he is very young and one of the best players in the world, he is also already one of the highest paid footballers in the world in PSG and he also earns a huge amount in loyalty bonuses.

Liverpool can't even afford to pay Mbappe's wages for one year, thus there is no chance in hell that he is going to Anfield, Mbappe is either staying in PSG or moving to Real Madrid, i don't think there are any other feasible options.

I also don't expect Kylian Mbappe to move to the Arab Pro League when his career is as good as it is now. Liverpool have the possibility of getting Mbappe's services, but the chances are very low if we look at how Liverpool pay the salaries of their players. Liverpool and PSG might be able to come to an agreement like the wages are shared, but I think that's too bad for PSG.

PSG don't have many options in Mbappe's situation, if they can't extend Mbappe's contract then they have to sell him, loan him, or release him to another team on a free transfer at the end of next season. At the moment several approaches are possible, so as long as it will benefit PSG then they will probably find a deal.

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July 30, 2023, 09:00:56 PM
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Is it up to five out of the several old players you believe Chelsea still has? There are currently only four older players left: Thiago Silva, James, Kepa, and Chilwell. When Pocchetino took over as Chelsea's coach, many were sold.
Inasmuch as Pocchetino has let go of so many old players, I don't think it's a risky move. He is simultaneously bringing in new players and letting go of old players, To balance the equation
There are more than 5 players on the squad already joined Chelsea since the last season. You can count it yourself here https://www.transfermarkt.co.id/fc-chelsea/kader/verein/631. Old players doesn't mean they already spend many years, they are old players if they already joined since the last season. Please understand this first, dude!!

Sure, we all know that Pocchetino has sold many players. We can check them here https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/transfers/verein/631. Note that on the list includes the loan players.

I don't say it is a risky move. But if they sold all the old players, it may bother the squad balance. New players need time for adaptation, it is not easily to perform with their best in a short time.


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July 30, 2023, 09:01:33 PM
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I also don't expect Kylian Mbappe to move to the Arab Pro League when his career is as good as it is now. Liverpool have the possibility of getting Mbappe's services, but the chances are very low if we look at how Liverpool pay the salaries of their players. Liverpool and PSG might be able to come to an agreement like the wages are shared, but I think that's too bad for PSG.

PSG don't have many options in Mbappe's situation, if they can't extend Mbappe's contract then they have to sell him, loan him, or release him to another team on a free transfer at the end of next season. At the moment several approaches are possible, so as long as it will benefit PSG then they will probably find a deal.

If Kylian Mbappe is loaned to Liverpool or another club it means letting him go for free, what PSG needs to do is extend the contract after that PSG can do anything
After all there is no point in linking Mbappe to Liverpool because right now Liverpool don't have enough money even to bring in new players Liverpool have to wait for Ittihad to pay Fabinho release fee, Liverpool have already spent enough money this season so there is no budget for Mbappe the only way to get a budget is to let one of the players go first.

By the way have you guys noticed Liverpool's last 3 matches? they scored 12 goals in 3 matches 4 goals each in each match which means their attacks are getting more intense, yeah even though it's a pre season match but it's good, some new players can adapt quickly.

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July 30, 2023, 09:15:49 PM
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Yes I’m also of the opinion that Osimhen would have been the best man to fill in as centre forward for Manchester United but after considering the cost of acquiring Victor Osimhen and the possibility that Napoli might not be interested in selling, the club decided to opt for other alternatives for that position and decided on signing Hojlund as the player to lead their attack next season

I thought Osimhen deal outside Inter is unacceptable by Napoli president, he had an incredible contribution In Seria A which has been one of the best time of his career, it will be unwise decision to abandon the club when he has only achieve a little on that region, additional year in Seria A will be better before coming to any Premier League team, he will be more valuable and if they can build another tension in the upcoming Champions League, he will be double valuable than how much he is worth right now and the debate of him not surviving in Premier League will quench for good.

With the way Pre-season matches results are shown and displayed by teams, it is becoming unclear how some teams are going to perform this season, Manchester City couldn't beat minor team outside Premier League, I understand that they are friendly but the ending of this match is weird, my  confidence on Arsenal and Manchester City to repeat their position in the standing this season still stand though.

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Erik Ten Hag has transformed the team into competitors and challengers at his arrival. I must admit that he has made efforts to put together a tough team who today we can say are league competitors and one of the top teams in Europe. Hojlund’s addition to the team this summer will certainly improve them and give the team a better attacking force, they would wish kane was the name been mentioned today but unfortunately that seems unrealistic and will have to welcome the signing of Hojlund.

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July 30, 2023, 09:33:06 PM
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If anyone is actually thinking that Liverpool might be able to get Mbappé in the team, I think they are just too naive. There is no way Mbappé is going to Liverpool. And there is no way PSG is going to let Mbappé go for only a 100 million. Real Madrid is the only actual destination for Mbappé in my opinion. Oh and there is no way psg is actually going to let him go for anything less than 180. When someone like Harry Kane is actually going to be sold for 180 million I think PSG is not wrong for asking you that much money for Mbappé.

It is known that Mbappe wants to transfer to Real Madrid. On the other hand, it is known that Real Madrid want to transfer Mbappe for free. PSG naturally want two things, either to sign Mbappe on a new contract or to get a fee from the sale of Mbappe. The equation is clear. But the determinant of this equation is Mbappe. He will not sign a new contract with PSG and will reject offers from teams other than Real Madrid. In this case, PSG do not have many alternatives. They will lose Mbappe at the end of the season without earning a fee. I think Liverpool could have tried to put Mane on their agenda. I think it would have been a more coherent transfer attempt for them in every aspect.

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July 30, 2023, 09:36:52 PM
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I have watched liverpool vs leicester city. There's no improvement happened with leicester city. Liverpool is leading the game now with 4-0 score. There are some new players came from liverpool's academy. It's quite entertaining to see how liverpool was humiliating leicester city like it was nothing rather than a mediocre football club. Leicester city's performance has been decreasing a lot. Leicester city becomes even worse than before. I think that if it's the time for leicester city to stay in the championship forever. This is only a friendly match and i can't measure properly how strong liverpool is right now. It's caused by it was only facing the garbage team.

It seemed to me if leicester city will never ever able promoted to the EPL again. The era for leicester city already gone. The club must have started from the bottom again. Leicester city has sold many its important players.

Liverpool's performance is quite good at this moment.



I did not have the chance to watch the game but looking at the stats, it shows Liverpool were completely dominant in the game against Leicester City. They recorded 26 shots against 8, 63 against 37 ball possession and 645 passes against 397. The stats shows how poor Leicester City performed in this game, this is not the level of performance I expect from a team who have something to prove. If this is the way they will perform next season then I don’t see them returning to the EPL next year.
We have often said here, don't take this friendly match seriously because this match is only for testing new players or as a warm-up match for new player.
We can't compare Liverpool to Leicester just by today match because indeed from the previous year Leicester was not very good and lacked quality players to keep performing well in the premier league.
So for me if Leicester lose against Liverpool it is very natural because maybe they don't have the best strategy in this friendly match.
But all of that does not guarantee Leicester future because it could be that in the Premier League match later, surprisingly, Leicester will get the best strategy and improve the performance of their players so that they can get the best position in the Premier League.
Remembering Leicester past has had its glory and this season their chance to prove if they can rise again

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Honestly Osimen should have been a better option for Man Utd though Osimen might cost them more than $100M, however he is a profilic striker who had already proved his worth in Seria A and UCL respectively he will deliver for Man Utd better than Hojlund who joined Atalanta in August last year and had only 10 goals to his credit, can he cope with the standard of EPL? well time will tell, I hope his signing wouldn't be another waste of fund by the club for an untested striker probably Man Utd wanted another striker in shape of Halaand of Man City because of their height he is 6 ft 3 in while Halaand  is 6 ft 4 in.

Assessment of players must have been done already by the coach and the staffs on players who supports the project for the future.
The Danish Hojlund is talented but still young and has what it takes to move to the highest level. Ten Hag transformed Rashford and the same can happen with Hojlund. He should not be compared with Haaland at the moment. Osimhen has been appreciated by the coach and his team of staffs but final decision has been made. Osimhen should also leave the Seria A for a better league.

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July 30, 2023, 10:11:09 PM
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Previously, Manchester City managed to get consecutive wins in two pre-season games and today, in the third match of the pre-season, they had to lose against Atletico Madrid with a score of 1-2. Actually I didn't watch this match, but if I look at the match statistics, both teams performed the same as their main squad and in the second half all the players were replaced by second-tier players. But it seems that in this match Atletico Madrid can slightly outperform Manchester City and this narrow defeat isn't too bad either.

I think Pep Guardiola will not worry too much about this because on August 6 they have to focus on the Community Shield final against Arsenal. If manchester city can win this title then they will get 4 trophies before the 23/24 competition starts.
Preseason games cannot be used as a benchmark to evaluate which teams will succeed in the new seasons because historically teams do well in the preseason games and don’t even make it to top four position at the end of the season. Regardless of this fact, it is necessary that clubs play friendly matches to help managers prepare and also evaluate the team’s progress before the season kicks off every season. Judging from Arsenal’s progress so far in the preseasons I can say that the team is improving everyday and gradually developing into real challengers in European football.

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July 30, 2023, 10:25:17 PM
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We have often said here, don't take this friendly match seriously because this match is only for testing new players or as a warm-up match for new player.
We can't compare Liverpool to Leicester just by today match because indeed from the previous year Leicester was not very good and lacked quality players to keep performing well in the premier league.
So for me if Leicester lose against Liverpool it is very natural because maybe they don't have the best strategy in this friendly match.
But all of that does not guarantee Leicester future because it could be that in the Premier League match later, surprisingly, Leicester will get the best strategy and improve the performance of their players so that they can get the best position in the Premier League.
Remembering Leicester past has had its glory and this season their chance to prove if they can rise again


Kyle Walker had good skill and technique,So he will be key player of Saudi Arabia Club.So Walker and Mbappe was going to join the Saudi Arabia.So we are going to watch a wonderful game in this Saudi Arabia League session.Walker is not going to retire from the Football game,because still Saudi Arabia ready to give maximum offer to him.Being a sportsman only for the health issue,he may retire from the game.Other than health problem,he will join Saudi Arabia Club and earn more to current salary in the short period of time.Mbappe and Walker had good luck because of their past games.Most of the players ready to join the Saudi Arabia Clubs, but many get rejected by the Saudi Arabia Club.Very eager to watch the performance of Walker and Mbappe in a same team.
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July 30, 2023, 10:36:51 PM
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Honestly Osimen should have been a better option for Man Utd though Osimen might cost them more than $100M, however he is a profilic striker who had already proved his worth in Seria A and UCL respectively he will deliver for Man Utd better than Hojlund who joined Atalanta in August last year and had only 10 goals to his credit, can he cope with the standard of EPL? well time will tell, I hope his signing wouldn't be another waste of fund by the club for an untested striker probably Man Utd wanted another striker in shape of Halaand of Man City because of their height he is 6 ft 3 in while Halaand  is 6 ft 4 in.

I'm not sure why Osimehn hasn't been linked to any of these major teams. He's a fantastic striker who will be an excellent fit for these top teams in need of a prolific striker. Is it possible that his current club has already made him a greater offer to stay in Serie A? He's on a fantastic club that has won the league title at least once. With his current age, he might think about entering other leagues to add to his trophy and career accomplishments before he gets older.

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July 30, 2023, 10:44:04 PM
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I also don't expect Kylian Mbappe to move to the Arab Pro League when his career is as good as it is now. Liverpool have the possibility of getting Mbappe's services, but the chances are very low if we look at how Liverpool pay the salaries of their players. Liverpool and PSG might be able to come to an agreement like the wages are shared, but I think that's too bad for PSG.

PSG don't have many options in Mbappe's situation, if they can't extend Mbappe's contract then they have to sell him, loan him, or release him to another team on a free transfer at the end of next season. At the moment several approaches are possible, so as long as it will benefit PSG then they will probably find a deal.

If Kylian Mbappe is loaned to Liverpool or another club it means letting him go for free, what PSG needs to do is extend the contract after that PSG can do anything
After all there is no point in linking Mbappe to Liverpool because right now Liverpool don't have enough money even to bring in new players Liverpool have to wait for Ittihad to pay Fabinho release fee, Liverpool have already spent enough money this season so there is no budget for Mbappe the only way to get a budget is to let one of the players go first.

By the way have you guys noticed Liverpool's last 3 matches? they scored 12 goals in 3 matches 4 goals each in each match which means their attacks are getting more intense, yeah even though it's a pre season match but it's good, some new players can adapt quickly.
There's no way Paris Saint Germaine can extend the contract of player who has openly made his decision to leave the club known to not just the management of PSG but to the football world at large.
Liverpool's interest to get Kylian Mbappe signed or loaned to them I think wouldn't come to fruition considering the player's interest on which club he should play for after leaving the Spanish capital and I don't expect anything to change that decision at the moment. Real Madrid to Kylian Mbappe is the one and only next destination and he wouldn't accept any other club apart from the Spanish giants

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July 30, 2023, 11:44:33 PM
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Arsenal are said to be interested in Kvaratskhelia and Kudus both. But I don't know if they are still willing to spend much more money now. Especially Kvaratskhelia's cost would be very high for them. Both of them are really skilled players so transferring even one of them would be quite beneficial for Arsenal.

I think Napoli's demand for Kvaratskhelia will be very high. There is no release clause for him and I think they would want 100 million euros minimum for him. Therefore going for Kudus might be better if they don't want to splurge on a player again like they did with Rice.

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July 30, 2023, 11:53:23 PM
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Chelsea's squad becomes even more mature even though most players were still very young. The quality of the club becomes better and better. It's likely chelsea is ready to compete for UCL spot next season.
Chelsea may not get EPL spot due to strong opponents like Manchester City, but I believe they can secure a spot in the UCL next season. The competition becomes far stricter since newcastle is also joining to be one of big club in EPL.

I saw that chelsea was winning the game against fulham with good score. Chelsea made so many goals from a few games in EPL summer series which has been proving if its opponent shall try to consider it as a threat upcoming season.
Pochettino is not yet stopping in adding more and more talented players to the club. I saw that if he is still pursuing some names to be added into the club before the gone of summer transfer season.

I do like how he was maintaining its positive vibe in the club. Chelsea slowly moves to the right place.

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