Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025

[FanEagle]

Sancho should realize that he is not in a club that is managed properly and act accordingly. I get that he is not the reason why the management at United sucks, but being a child and acting like this he is lowering his value. Look at bruno Fernandes, he has been playing at a mismanaged club for years now and still kept his value up.

If Sancho wants to leave one day, he needs to keep his value up, shut up about it and go out and play your best game and constantly get the best out of yourself, if they do not decide to play you, play whenever you are given minutes and as soon as your contract is up, stop playing and go to another club for free to get more minutes, could be better team, could be worse team, just get your minutes for free in another club.

[JeffBrad12]

The good news is that Antony will return to training. Antony has not been named as a suspect and has been arrested either in Britain or Brazil. Antony has provided some evidence to support his statement. But even though he is back with United after more than 4 weeks and has not played in 4 games, it seems that he will not play against Crystal Palace. Man United seem to need his manpower and the management continues to monitor the progress of the case.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66960103

The news about Antony returning to training with the team is a welcomed one. The article stated he wasn’t placed on any restrictions after having spoken to the police about the allegations. It seemed the evidence he provided seems solid enough for the police at this point.
It also seems it’s enough for the club as he’s expected to be back training with the team. Although when he would be actually be on the squad for a game is yet unknown. Manchester United do need his presence and expertise in their games.

Finally, he's coming. The club's right winger has returned. it makes Mu feel better, although Antony was questioned by Manchester police for five hours.
MU has allowed him to train again with his teammates, which is really good. I hope that antony's problem is already sorted out and he can play some important matches without any burden.

MU has found another best starting line up but having antony in this line up was making it even better than before.
I can't even wait to see him use his special skill. People are also waiting for his action in the field too.

[borovichok]

Fulham is much better than Chelsea this season and also in terms of points scored although the two are not much different but I think Fulham will be the favorite in this match and it will be a golden opportunity for Fulham to beat Chelsea at home.
Even so I hope you don't bet too much on Fulham winning because this match is difficult for us to predict even though Chelsea is experiencing bad conditions, but I think Chelsea will try their best in this match.

Fulham is better but winning the blues would be difficult, Pochettino made it clear about the condition of the team, they're doing good, the only challenge they face is critical injuries hitting important players and also having difficulty in scoring goals. Everyone keep underrated deformed Chelsea because of their previous terrible performance last season. This season is different, though the blues recorded few loses this season but they have good chances of bouncing back to winning ways, afterall they do record a tremendous winning against Brighton in the Carabao Cup which served as a surprised victory to everyone. I keep emphasizing on this, let Chelsea give Mauricio Pochettino time, he will definitely bring out the best from these new players, just time range.

[BITCOIN4X]

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Manchester City's performance surprised me this season all their attacks on clubs they have played against are massive and the exciting part is that they are not going soft on any club,  since the premier league started this season they have won all the matches they did not spare any cheese on the table. anybody they meet is always goals. there is no two ways about it Manchester City will still win the trophy. for some period of time, Manchester City will be dominant in winning the premier league and even Arsenal is not serious this season compared to last season maybe because my expectation was too high on them, thinking that since they tested glory they would want to be the best this season but the reverse is the case.

Sometimes wolves can be dangerous themselves, but there is not that will be difficult for Manchester City to handle at this point in time, if they play over a defensive game then it won't favor them, there should be a balance in both attacking and defending. and Chelsea against Fulham it will be difficult for Chelsea to win in their condition.

Manchester City is the only team that is still able to maintain its unbeaten trend until week 6 of the Premier League. Their defense is too strong for their opponents to score many goals, but maybe they haven't found comparable opponents like Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool or Manchester United.

I don't think Wolves will be a surprise even though Manchester City have just suffered a defeat against Newcastle in the EFL Cup competition. Wolves have conceded 12 goals and that is a sign that there are problems in their defense that Manchester City can exploit. I think it's hard to stop Manchester City's current winning streak if a team doesn't really focus on defense and take advantage of every opportunity, so Wolves don't seem to be an obstacle for Pep Guardiola's players.

[BALIK]

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Manchester City's performance surprised me this season all their attacks on clubs they have played against are massive and the exciting part is that they are not going soft on any club,  since the premier league started this season they have won all the matches they did not spare any cheese on the table. anybody they meet is always goals. there is no two ways about it Manchester City will still win the trophy. for some period of time, Manchester City will be dominant in winning the premier league and even Arsenal is not serious this season compared to last season maybe because my expectation was too high on them, thinking that since they tested glory they would want to be the best this season but the reverse is the case.
Sometimes wolves can be dangerous themselves, but there is not that will be difficult for Manchester City to handle at this point in time, if they play over a defensive game then it won't favor them, there should be a balance in both attacking and defending. and Chelsea against Fulham it will be difficult for Chelsea to win in their condition.

Manchester City is the only team that is still able to maintain its unbeaten trend until week 6 of the Premier League. Their defense is too strong for their opponents to score many goals, but maybe they haven't found comparable opponents like Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool or Manchester United.
I don't think Wolves will be a surprise even though Manchester City have just suffered a defeat against Newcastle in the EFL Cup competition. Wolves have conceded 12 goals and that is a sign that there are problems in their defense that Manchester City can exploit. I think it's hard to stop Manchester City's current winning streak if a team doesn't really focus on defense and take advantage of every opportunity, so Wolves don't seem to be an obstacle for Pep Guardiola's players.

As good as Manchester City have been, I don't think a team like Wolves will be able to stop City from winning. Defeat against Newcastle will not affect the match against Wolves. However, Rodri, De Bruyne and Silva will not be in the City squad for this match. City's midfield will be somewhat shaky in this match.

Manchester City have won their last 6 matches against Wolves. And most of the matches they won by big margins. In these 6 matches, City scored 19 goals and conceded only 4 goals. So against Wolves, City are capable of playing well and their luck is good. On the other hand, Wolves team is not in good form. Out of 6 matches this season they have won only 1 match and lost 4 matches. I'd say unless a miracle happens City won't drop a point in this match.

[lizarder]

Victory over Brighton should be a good start for Chelsea's revival. Even though it was only in an EFL match, it really helped raise the team's morale to look forward to the next match. Chelsea really has to take advantage of other competitions besides the Premier League, because logically it might be very difficult for the Blues to compete again at the top of the standings. Therefore, Pochettino must be wise in seeing the opportunities that exist and he is required to be able to bring Chelsea to achieve success again.

If Chelsea wants to qualify for the Champions League next season Pochettino's focus should be much greater on the Premier League because this route is one way for them to play in the Champions League. Of course, it is not an easy matter to finish in the top four of the standings because there are many other clubs that appear much more consistent than Chelsea at the moment. This victory was the start of a comeback for Chelsea and if Pochettino can make better use of this, it can certainly bring them back to getting positive results in every match.

So let's see how Chelsea can produce good results when playing in the next match. Chelsea will face some big games in the premier league and Pochettino will be faced with a much bigger focus on getting Chelsea back to winning ways. Even though it is difficult he must remain focused on give good results because management will definitely demand more satisfying results.

[tusandii]

For tomorrow match after win with scores 3-0 at Carabao Cup Manchester United will met Crystal Palace again today on Premier League and the latest result from both teams could be an indicator Manchester United had good chances to repeat that result again and most likely Ten Hag will used similar strategy with putting Amrabat as the defender and this is very affective because Manchester United defensive lines is more solid and besides that played Maguire not always bad because last match he can able to performing well

It seems that Erik Ten Hag must be able to pick the right main squad, stating several players who contributed to the victory in the Carabao Cup. It is not impossible that the cooperation that we have seen will be brought to life again in this match. Crystal Palace must have learned from their mistakes in that match, to minimize Manchester United movements when building attacks. Amrabat, Casemiro, Garnacho, Pellistri, Mount, and Varane should be in better condition. Bruno will be part of the attack to be sharper.

Another match that I am highlighting is Newcastle against Burnley because the big victory achieved by Eddie Howe's troops over Sheffield United motivated them to make the same record again. This is very likely to happen, Newcastle must step on the gas and take advantage of weak opponents to get maximum points.

This weekend I will focus more on this match to make a profit from betting on Newcastle against Burnley.
Without us analyzing and predicting strongly from a logical point of view, it can be seen that Newcastle will be superior because we all know Newcastle is one of the strong clubs in the premier league and Burnley is a weak club that is at the bottom of the current points table which is only able to get 1 point. and it looks like this will be a bigger score like when Newcastle beat Sheffield United by a very big score and it will happen again tomorrow.
Everyone will definitely bet confidently to choose Newcastle without any doubt that this club will win the match to get another 3 additional points.

[ShowOff]

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If Chelsea wants to qualify for the Champions League next season Pochettino's focus should be much greater on the Premier League because this route is one way for them to play in the Champions League. Of course, it is not an easy matter to finish in the top four of the standings because there are many other clubs that appear much more consistent than Chelsea at the moment. This victory was the start of a comeback for Chelsea and if Pochettino can make better use of this, it can certainly bring them back to getting positive results in every match.

The problem is, I'm not sure Pochettino is capable of bringing Chelsea through to the Champions League next season. The team's performance is still poor and they always find it difficult to win game after game, so of course there are big doubts about Chelsea's chances of getting to the Champions League next season.

I certainly can't say for sure what will happen to Chelsea throughout this season, but Pochettino basically has a big challenge to build on the quality and mentality of the team that is currently missing. Chelsea is like a team that has lost its identity, but I hope Pochettino can improve it defensively if he gets the full trust of management.

[Sakanwa]

Sancho should realize that he is not in a club that is managed properly and act accordingly. I get that he is not the reason why the management at United sucks, but being a child and acting like this he is lowering his value. Look at bruno Fernandes, he has been playing at a mismanaged club for years now and still kept his value up.

If Sancho wants to leave one day, he needs to keep his value up, shut up about it and go out and play your best game and constantly get the best out of yourself, if they do not decide to play you, play whenever you are given minutes and as soon as your contract is up, stop playing and go to another club for free to get more minutes, could be better team, could be worse team, just get your minutes for free in another club.

Sancho is a good player who is supposed to do well at United,but because of the way the club plays football,maybe I think it doesn't really suit the style of United's play.Sancho is a very good player,and I expected him to be one of the main figures at United,but it's unfortunate that he hasn't been able to make a very good impact on the team, I prefer to use Antony than to play Sancho because Antony really knows how to dribble,and he is also very pacy,which makes so many defenders scared of him.However,the combination of the two in one team isn't bad, but they aren't really functioning the way I expected them to function at those wings.

[shinratensei_]

Strangely Ten Hag is changing the line up, Rashford and Bruno will play as wingers, but Mount is still playing as attacking midfielder. If Mount can contribute an assist or goal again, it's already clear Ten Hag isn't understand the player he have. Mount is playing in this position, but he changed as a defensive midfielder.

Manchester United is heavy favorite in this match.

I don't think Bruno Fernandez will playing well when his position moving to be winger because his real position as attacking midfielder, actually between Mason Mount and Bruno Fernandez have the same position as attacking midfielder and not good ideas when put each other in winger position side, but Manchester United have many attacking or holding midfielder right now and less position in winger. After Jadon Sancho withdrew from main squad only have Marcus Rashford as real winger position but he still on the top performance right now.

It sounds a non sense thing to put brune as a winger as his actual positon was as midfielder. I meant if put a player off from his actual position will be giving very bad impact to the club. MU needs to see what chelsea doing to some of its players. The club were putting some players off from their actual positions and that decision greatly affected the performance from the club. Antony is coming back again and he will be filling the right winger position. There's no need to do another stupid thing like put bruno as winger. It's a non sense thing.

Upcoming match in Premier League, Manchester United will face Crystal Palace again after winning in EFL Cup and seems not difficult for United get another positive result and three points achievement.

As long as united will always be putting amrabat and casemiro as starting line up and there is no need to feel worry about that. I meant if we must also take a look at how amrabat and casemiro dominated palace's players.
MU needs to put antony in and it will be so good. Im not willing to see manchester united does another blunder again by putting brona as a winger.

[QueenVera]

This weekend I will focus more on this match to make a profit from betting on Newcastle against Burnley.
Without us analyzing and predicting strongly from a logical point of view, it can be seen that Newcastle will be superior because we all know Newcastle is one of the strong clubs in the premier league and Burnley is a weak club that is at the bottom of the current points table which is only able to get 1 point. and it looks like this will be a bigger score like when Newcastle beat Sheffield United by a very big score and it will happen again tomorrow.
Everyone will definitely bet confidently to choose Newcastle without any doubt that this club will win the match to get another 3 additional points.

Eddie Howe's team is back in a good shape and they even won against Manchester City in the EFL tournament I think winning against a big team and removing them from the tournament would boost their confidence level and also bring happiness to the dressing room, their next EPL match would be very easy for them cause they're playing against a weaker team that's yet to win any matches.

 Burnley are still at the bottom of the table and would find it very difficult to win against Newcastle, they even lost their Last match in the EFL tournament and could still lose against Newcastle, Burnley plays good football and could suprisenly dominate the match like they did against City and United but the problem with  them is that they lack experienced finisher to help them score goals which is a big advantage for Newcastle.

[ndutndut]

The good news is that Antony will return to training. Antony has not been named as a suspect and has been arrested either in Britain or Brazil. Antony has provided some evidence to support his statement. But even though he is back with United after more than 4 weeks and has not played in 4 games, it seems that he will not play against Crystal Palace. Man United seem to need his manpower and the management continues to monitor the progress of the case.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66960103

The news about Antony returning to training with the team is a welcomed one. The article stated he wasn’t placed on any restrictions after having spoken to the police about the allegations. It seemed the evidence he provided seems solid enough for the police at this point.
It also seems it’s enough for the club as he’s expected to be back training with the team. Although when he would be actually be on the squad for a game is yet unknown. Manchester United do need his presence and expertise in their games.

Finally, he's coming. The club's right winger has returned. it makes Mu feel better, although Antony was questioned by Manchester police for five hours.
MU has allowed him to train again with his teammates, which is really good. I hope that antony's problem is already sorted out and he can play some important matches without any burden.

MU has found another best starting line up but having antony in this line up was making it even better than before.
I can't even wait to see him use his special skill. People are also waiting for his action in the field too.

Yes, that's right, it seems like Man United knew from the start that the accusations against Antony were pointless. Now with Antony returning to training with Man United, the composition of the players will be complete and good, but there are still shortcomings because the players are still selfish and lack solidity. Hopefully against Crystal Palace they will be more solid, aggressive, disciplined in defense and attack. and in the end we can conclude that most of Man United's main squad is starting to be fit and available again. Just need Sancho to apologize and Varane can remain injury-free for the rest of the season since he returns next month.

Players should need protection because football is a short career. If he is innocent, it would be unfair for him to be dismissed from his job due to an investigation that could take a long time.

[bering]

After suffering a defeat in the League Cup, Mnchester City will travel to Wolves headquarters for a week 7 match. In the English premier league, they are the only club that has managed to wipe out all the wins, with the opponents they will face at this time, their chances of continuing the winning streak in the Premier League are wide open. Wolves fc themselves are in a state of experiencing a series of negative results, and the 6 matches they have played they can only collect 4 points from 1 win and 1 draw, while 4 other matches ended in defeat.

Fulham vs Chelsea, will be a different story, to be honest I am skeptical of Chelsea and I don't know what Chelsea will be able to do in this match. Fulham will be the hosts, and that is an advantage for them in this match.

Since last season Wolves performance was never getting better because since that time they have to hard struggle to avoiding relegation zone and their poor performance also were resumes this season and 1 win from 6 matches make Wolves have to occupy 16th place and actually both teams has been eliminated by their opponents yesterday but the loses from Newcastle won't have any affect for Manchester City performance in Premier league this because they give their priority to this competition than at Carabao Cup and some players just like Halland or Ederson who didn't played while Manchester City lose from Newcastle possibly will be played tomorrow and i think this could be an easy match for Manchester City

[Huppercase]

Manchester united's performance was very poor at the start of the previous season . But gradually Ten Hag was able to stabilize the team . At the end of the season  the team's performance was quite stable and they managed to qualify for the champions league. This is why we had high expectations from Manchester united this season.  But at the beginning of this season  the performance of the team is very poor. Manchester united have won 3 out of 6 matches and lost 3.  United won against burnley after defeats against arsenal, brighton and bayern munich. There is no way to say for sure whether United will win today's match against Crystal Palace. The performance of the team is very erratic. And so I won't bet United to win today.

The situation right now is different from Previous season. Check again and see for yourself how Rashford was hot cake despite the inconsistency in the beginning, he later turned to a high branded leaf but that was after demise of Ronaldo from the club, I think things turnout well when Ronaldo left because of the misunderstandings and the reef of been sub off from matches but after that phase wear off, they fought to finish among the top 3 buy today, which excuse are they going to use for not doing well? Onana? Mason greenwood? Erik Hag is the problem of the club and he should adjust how he treat players, learnt he had dinner with them already.

I want to see if Erik is going to reorganize and shuffle his defenders, I want to see Maguire off the pitch for the time being or maybe even see a therapist because I'm not sure if his condition is because the Media bully him or because he is having low self esteem in the field, he is wearing off and I don't think any club will put money on the  line to buy him even if it is cheap, they should have left him for Wolves that were interested back then; I doubt if there is going to be any servous club that want such guy to defend his team.

[nara1892]

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If Chelsea wants to qualify for the Champions League next season Pochettino's focus should be much greater on the Premier League because this route is one way for them to play in the Champions League. Of course, it is not an easy matter to finish in the top four of the standings because there are many other clubs that appear much more consistent than Chelsea at the moment. This victory was the start of a comeback for Chelsea and if Pochettino can make better use of this, it can certainly bring them back to getting positive results in every match.

The problem is, I'm not sure Pochettino is capable of bringing Chelsea through to the Champions League next season. The team's performance is still poor and they always find it difficult to win game after game, so of course there are big doubts about Chelsea's chances of getting to the Champions League next season.

I certainly can't say for sure what will happen to Chelsea throughout this season, but Pochettino basically has a big challenge to build on the quality and mentality of the team that is currently missing. Chelsea is like a team that has lost its identity, but I hope Pochettino can improve it defensively if he gets the full trust of management.

True, with Chelsea's position and performance now in my opinion it is almost impossible and will not even be possible to qualify for the Champions League next season. The Blues' performance is now much worse than last season and obviously many expectations were broken which initially said that this season Chelsea would be able to rise from the slump last season, but it turns out that even though Todd has spent a lot of money to bring in players they consider quality, the facts that occur cannot be denied, now this team is still slumping and there is not even the slightest progress from them. Therefore I think it is only natural that many people place a lot of doubts, now Chelsea is in 14th place in the standings and to reach the top five it is very far away.

On the other hand the season is still quite long but with how they are performing now in my opinion it is very difficult for them to be able to reach the top five positions to qualify for the Champions League next season, agree with you here Pochettino's responsibility is indeed very big, how could the comprehensive overhaul he has done not have a good impact or progress on this squad. So in my opinion Pochettino must really think of something for the next time that might have a positive impact on his squad, however they have to build progress with whatever it is even though slowly.

[Jody.Drummer]

Fulham vs Chelsea, will be a different story, to be honest I am skeptical of Chelsea and I don't know what Chelsea will be able to do in this match. Fulham will be the hosts, and that is an advantage for them in this match.

Im feeling that too. Chelsea's previous games made me doubt their abilities, but I think they can win against Fulham if they use the same strategy as the match against Brighton.
You know that if palmer was a key in helping jackson scoring for chelsea. Pochettino shall have stopped to use gallagher as this guy was a non creative midfielder. He was always doing backpass anytime, which is crazy.

Pochettino needs to explore another option like palmer which was offering better performance than gallgher. The key was on palmer. Chelsea will benefit from having him and Maatsen, but I'm curious why Pochettino kept putting Gallagher and Enzo in the starting lineup instead of them.I will not blame pochettino if he was using the same strategy like the previous match but poch out should surround if he keeps use gallagher as starting line up.

Poch is too obsessed with giving gallagher regular time to play.

Usually the opponent will see the strategy used by his potential opponent before the match. And I myself still don't believe that even if they apply a strategy like in the previous match it will help them. So far what Chelsea have shown is still far from what is expected, I don't mean to underestimate them, but maybe the victory is a luck for them.
Now they must focus on this match and finish well. Don't let this match become a burden, because if that happens then their game will never be able to develop,

[Mame89]

If Chelsea wants to qualify for the Champions League next season Pochettino's focus should be much greater on the Premier League because this route is one way for them to play in the Champions League. Of course, it is not an easy matter to finish in the top four of the standings because there are many other clubs that appear much more consistent than Chelsea at the moment. This victory was the start of a comeback for Chelsea and if Pochettino can make better use of this, it can certainly bring them back to getting positive results in every match.

From the moment he came to Chelsea there was nothing about Poch that suggested to me that he could win the Premier League this season, because he needed to. But if you're just talking about making the top four it's possible. Chelsea is the same as Newcestil, the same as Man United, they will not be able to fight for the EPL title because I don't see it. Realistically, looking at Chelsea's current opportunities, they can only target the top four positions so they can return to the UCL league next season.

So let's see how Chelsea can produce good results when playing in the next match. Chelsea will face some big games in the premier league and Pochettino will be faced with a much bigger focus on getting Chelsea back to winning ways. Even though it is difficult he must remain focused on give good results because management will definitely demand more satisfying results.

Chelsea just need time and it's true that in the next few matches Chelsea have to play big matches, this is where Poch has to test the players' mentality so that they have a higher fighting spirit. I hope Chelsea don't repeat the same mistake because of their impatience, if you remember Chelsea's mistake from the past, namely that they often don't give playing time to players who haven't shined, but instead often give playing minutes to classy players, so there are many great players like M. Salah. ,Kevin De Bruyne is actually shining at another club than at Chelsea.

[DaNNy001]

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If Chelsea wants to qualify for the Champions League next season Pochettino's focus should be much greater on the Premier League because this route is one way for them to play in the Champions League. Of course, it is not an easy matter to finish in the top four of the standings because there are many other clubs that appear much more consistent than Chelsea at the moment. This victory was the start of a comeback for Chelsea and if Pochettino can make better use of this, it can certainly bring them back to getting positive results in every match.

The problem is, I'm not sure Pochettino is capable of bringing Chelsea through to the Champions League next season. The team's performance is still poor and they always find it difficult to win game after game, so of course there are big doubts about Chelsea's chances of getting to the Champions League next season.

I certainly can't say for sure what will happen to Chelsea throughout this season, but Pochettino basically has a big challenge to build on the quality and mentality of the team that is currently missing. Chelsea is like a team that has lost its identity, but I hope Pochettino can improve it defensively if he gets the full trust of management.

The thing is that the owner of Chelsea will just have to give him the benefit of doubt because Chelsea as a whole was already scattered during the end of their last season performance so it's still a building phase for pochettino and although the club is having it hard to win game but their is still potential in the gameplay so given him time to balance up the whole squad.

[Bobrox]

As long as united will always be putting amrabat and casemiro as starting line up and there is no need to feel worry about that. I meant if we must also take a look at how amrabat and casemiro dominated palace's players.
MU needs to put antony in and it will be so good. Im not willing to see manchester united does another blunder again by putting brona as a winger.

Amrabat said he will play what ever position put him by Erik ten Hag, I don't think problem with nice performance on debut match with Manchester United and he will play as holding midfielder or Manchester United tactician can use him as defender to make solid defense area. For holding midfielder have many choose for Erik ten Hag but in defender still confused because some player not on the top level and still inconsistency performance.

Have good news with Antony return to the team squad, he has been in training center and potential will be in the list player name for upcoming match against Crystal Palace, now ten Hag not confused with right winger position and automatically Antony will fill that position, for left winger I think not bad ideas giving another chance for Rashford and Rasmus Højlund have put as center forward.

[Mr.right85]

The problem is, I'm not sure Pochettino is capable of bringing Chelsea through to the Champions League next season. The team's performance is still poor and they always find it difficult to win game after game, so of course there are big doubts about Chelsea's chances of getting to the Champions League next season.

I certainly can't say for sure what will happen to Chelsea throughout this season, but Pochettino basically has a big challenge to build on the quality and mentality of the team that is currently missing. Chelsea is like a team that has lost its identity, but I hope Pochettino can improve it defensively if he gets the full trust of management.

Champions league you say!
I think the likely European qualification for Chelsea through the season would be Europa. That should be the goal for Chelsea this season as Champions League looks out of there rich with the performances of various teams as we have it already. Manchester City is in a perfect start for the Season and with the Carabao cup gone to them, they’ve got just Champions League and Premier League to be centered on.

If Pochettino could help his team archive the Europa this season, it would be a major win for the club. He really needs to get his boys to believe in what they can do and not just try. The team is basically one that comes to the pitch with hopes on what can be archived and not really believing they could actually come and take the win.