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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.5%)
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January 08, 2024, 06:56:30 PM
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Of course, Liverpool is not the only one affected by this. Still, leaving the team at a time like this would be damaging for Liverpool, which is competing for the title. They need Salah to become champions. He's a fantastic striker. He also plays great on the wing. Frankly, it is a privilege to have it. I hope he returns soon.

Mo Salah will prefer to win the AFCON with Egypt than the premier League with Liverpool. Mo Salah has been unlucky at AFCON, he hasn't won it despite been the best player in Africa and having a good teammate. They have reach some finals but always unlucky and Mo Salah wouldn't want to return soon

Liverpool can play well and win without Mo Salah. He's their best goal scorer but he's not a striker. Mo Salah is a winger and there are other good players that can play his position, Liverpool proved it against Arsenal in the FA cup by winning and knocking them out of the tournament.

J.Klopp is an experienced coach and he also has alot of players that he can rotate to bring victory to his team. Other premier league clubs are losing players for AFCON therefore other teams won't be playing at their peak and this give chance for any team to win.

The players going to play AFCON aren't going away for a long time so they won't be missing alot if their teams can hold on until they're back to continue from where they stopped to keep carrying their teams and winning games for them.

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January 08, 2024, 06:59:19 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.

I don't know how you judge the game play of a match, of course because I don't agree with your opinion. Both teams played well throughout the match and Arsenal had better form in the first half than in the second. Arsenal posed a threat to Liverpool's defense with several shots on target, but unfortunately they failed to score. In the second half Arsenal tried something better, but Liverpool were able to match it and lead the match until they finally won the match. Not boring at all, unless you bet on the wrong choice.

I personally watched the game and can say it was a tense one. Arsenal are not good at finishing, that was a problem before an own goal started Arsenal's defeat to Liverpool. So I don't agree with your assumption, because I enjoy their games.

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January 08, 2024, 07:08:37 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.
I don't know how you judge the game play of a match, of course because I don't agree with your opinion. Both teams played well throughout the match and Arsenal had better form in the first half than in the second. Arsenal posed a threat to Liverpool's defense with several shots on target, but unfortunately they failed to score. In the second half Arsenal tried something better, but Liverpool were able to match it and lead the match until they finally won the match. Not boring at all, unless you bet on the wrong choice.
I personally watched the game and can say it was a tense one. Arsenal are not good at finishing, that was a problem before an own goal started Arsenal's defeat to Liverpool. So I don't agree with your assumption, because I enjoy their games.

I would say we saw Arsenal's dominance in the first half. Liverpool played a defensive strategy in the first half. They don't try to attack too much. Perhaps Kopp tried to find the weaknesses in Arsenal's defence. Although Arsenal played well in the first half, Arsenal failed to dominate in the second half as Liverpool's players played very attacking. In the second half Liverpool players were able to make several great attacks. Also, the performance of Liverpool's players was very organized throughout the match. Arsenal lost due to their poor match tactics and weakness of attacking players.

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January 08, 2024, 07:30:23 PM

Now the first half has started and looking at the line-up that occurred in this match, I was actually quite surprised with what they played in this match because they almost lowered most of their core players for the match that occurred in round 3 today.
Even though the match in this competition is not too important but it seems like they are aware that this is not just about competition but there is a prestige that must be maintained considering this is a big match.

20 minutes of running time is now Arsenal who are more in control even though some of the kicks they try to do still miss the on Target but overall in these 20 minutes of possession and opportunities Arsenal dominate.


Arsenal was dominating the match against liverpool and it was creating two goal attempts. The performance of liverpool was very different without salah. Gakpo was filling salah's position but he can do nothing in this match. Liverpool has not yet made even a single goal attempt which is bad for the club.
Liverpool can lose against arsenal if the club keep try to play passively. Arsenal was always dominating the ball and attack compared to the liverpool. Counter attack could be the main solution for this but there was no salah who can do that as fast as possible.
Gakpo contributed nothing in this game and it proves that liverpool needs to buy a new right winger as a back up for salah. It was not as deadly as when salah was there. I must say liverpool's gameplay is so bad in this game.
Arsenal was leading the stat compared to the liverpool. It's very disappointed to see that klopp was always relied upon salah. Liverpool can still have a chance through diaz and nunez.
Let's see what will be going on soon. I expect a tough game till the last minute even for arsenal which is dominating the match.
Salah was not included in the line-up and was on the bench because he was preparing to defend his country in the African cup of Nations so he will definitely not be at Liverpool for some time and something like this also happened to several other clubs.

In the match between Arsenal and Liverpool in the second half I think everything was the same as in the first half because Arsenal were better in terms of performance it's just that at crucial moments Arsenal could not keep their concentration and it was immediately punished by Liverpool with 2 goals that were created even though 1 goal came from an own goal.
It's quite unfortunate for Arsenal because actually if the comparison for their performance is better than Liverpool in this match but of course when talking about the match then the victory must be scored through goals and Arsenal could not do that which made them have to be eliminated in the FA Cup this time.

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January 08, 2024, 07:34:47 PM

This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team. Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form. Aston Villa are also firing at the moment but I doubt they can maintain the momentum for too long. Liverpool also don’t look like much problem for Manchester City at the moment without Mo Salah. Guardiola obviously have an advantage in the race.
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January 08, 2024, 07:52:39 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.
This match was actually not too boring because both teams played very carefully, in fact I think this match was very interesting for both teams.

In the first half it wasn't that Arsenal didn't try to win the match but they were less effective even though Liverpool didn't perform well in the first half because the CB and fullback communication was not in sync plus the build up continued to fail because Arsenal played high press, luckily Liverpool had goalkeeper Alisson who was on fire.

Entering the second half, coach Klopp saw Arsenal's physical weakness due to playing fast in the first half. He started replacing players with young players, the results were very surprising. Liverpool managed to win with a convincing score. In my opinion, Klopp's strategy in this match was brilliant.
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January 08, 2024, 07:53:08 PM

This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team. Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form. Aston Villa are also firing at the moment but I doubt they can maintain the momentum for too long. Liverpool also don’t look like much problem for Manchester City at the moment without Mo Salah. Guardiola obviously have an advantage in the race.

If De Bruyne and Haaland perform well, Manchester City will become even stronger. Despite poor performances in a few matches and dropping points, City's performance is quite stable at the moment. However, the performance of Arsenal's players is now very erratic. The Arsenal team is now far behind in the points table after losing in the last 5 matches. If the players can't return to form yet and Arsenal drop points in a few more games then they will have to give up hope of winning the syrup. I think the two most worthy rivals for the Premier League title are Liverpool and Manchester City. Both these teams will likely continue to fight for the title till the end of the season.

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January 08, 2024, 08:14:50 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.
This match was actually not too boring because both teams played very carefully, in fact I think this match was very interesting for both teams.

In the first half it wasn't that Arsenal didn't try to win the match but they were less effective even though Liverpool didn't perform well in the first half because the CB and fullback communication was not in sync plus the build up continued to fail because Arsenal played high press, luckily Liverpool had goalkeeper Alisson who was on fire.

Entering the second half, coach Klopp saw Arsenal's physical weakness due to playing fast in the first half. He started replacing players with young players, the results were very surprising. Liverpool managed to win with a convincing score. In my opinion, Klopp's strategy in this match was brilliant.

I do not think Arsenal didn't want to win this match. I think Arsenal was just caught lacking by the coach of Liverpool as you said. And that also compared with Arsenal not performing very well right now, it has made Arsenal perform worse in my opinion. When young players are coming on for the other team, and you do not have gas left in the tank, it is going to be a problem to both attack and defend at the same time. That is the thing the Liverpool quotes exploited perfectly. Arsenal did try to win this match in my opinion. They were just unable to. I believe Arsenal is capable of performing better. They are just not in the best of form right now.

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January 08, 2024, 08:19:37 PM

This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team.

Let's hope Manchester City are back to their form. They now have a complete squad again. The player who caused the drop in their performance this season is back, which is De Bruyne. Since De Bruyne went on injury this season, Pep Guardiola hasn’t gotten a perfect replacement for him, which is really affecting the team. But he is back, and his performance was nice in their last match, which was in the FA Cup. He was able to make an assist in the match, which shows that he is back, and he is ready to improve Manchester City's performance. With the way Arsenal have begun to play poorly, I don’t think they will be able to face Manchester City.

Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form.

Arsenal's performance has dropped, and they are finding it difficult to score in most matches. Arsenal really depends on Saka, but as we can see, Saka's performance is not really good this season. His performance has dropped, and he is finding it difficult to score in most matches. His performance can’t be compared with last season. I think Saka should be given a rest. Arsenal really needs more experienced strikers.

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January 08, 2024, 08:36:45 PM

This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team. Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form. Aston Villa are also firing at the moment but I doubt they can maintain the momentum for too long. Liverpool also don’t look like much problem for Manchester City at the moment without Mo Salah. Guardiola obviously have an advantage in the race.
Mo Salah won't be away forever, he will prolly miss only two EPL games or so, except he picks up an injury during the AFCON. Liverpool are strong contenders, and i think they have a very good chance to be champions this season. Arsenal will get back to form, that's for sure, but they are not going to win the EPL, Arsenal players are yet to get the experience that's needed to become Premier League champions, their time will come, and they are getting closer, but it will not happen this season. If City don't win it (and i think they will), then Liverpool will be champions.
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I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.

You don't think Arsenal try to win that match was a sarcastic statement right but put yourself on their shoes, Arsenal aren't in the form like the way Liverpool is currently. They are Shakespeare right now, I once considered them as the best performing team this season but I think the way they are deteriorating across the table, they will end up badly and may even find it hard to get into.the next Champions League season because look at there last 3 matches, all were lost.

Liverpool has improved and I might consider looking at them for options on matches, they are doing well as of recent and can be rely on to get some good ways to gamble. They did exactly the opposite of what Arsenal has done in the last 3 matches, even Manchester City is struggling to meet them at the top of the table.

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January 08, 2024, 08:57:11 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.

I don't know how you judge the game play of a match, of course because I don't agree with your opinion. Both teams played well throughout the match and Arsenal had better form in the first half than in the second. Arsenal posed a threat to Liverpool's defense with several shots on target, but unfortunately they failed to score. In the second half Arsenal tried something better, but Liverpool were able to match it and lead the match until they finally won the match. Not boring at all, unless you bet on the wrong choice.

I personally watched the game and can say it was a tense one. Arsenal are not good at finishing, that was a problem before an own goal started Arsenal's defeat to Liverpool. So I don't agree with your assumption, because I enjoy their games.
That's very correct mate , it's like they have problem with goal scoring these past games because I reckon that the gunners have made close to 40 shots on trying to score in their last three games but all have resulted to no goal which is poor from their side because considering with their previous performance at the start of the season they ought to have been prepared to tackle such poor decline in goals attempt and finishing.

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January 08, 2024, 09:06:21 PM

This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team. Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form. Aston Villa are also firing at the moment but I doubt they can maintain the momentum for too long. Liverpool also don’t look like much problem for Manchester City at the moment without Mo Salah. Guardiola obviously have an advantage in the race.
Mo Salah won't be away forever, he will prolly miss only two EPL games or so, except he picks up an injury during the AFCON. Liverpool are strong contenders, and i think they have a very good chance to be champions this season. Arsenal will get back to form, that's for sure, but they are not going to win the EPL, Arsenal players are yet to get the experience that's needed to become Premier League champions, their time will come, and they are getting closer, but it will not happen this season. If City don't win it (and i think they will), then Liverpool will be champions.

Mohamed Salah will only be away from Liverpool for the AFCON, you are right. But isn't it a big problem for a team as big as Liverpool to be so dependent on one player? Gakpo and Darwin Nunez are good players but not good enough to make Liverpool champions. Mohamed Salah is one of the last of his kind. Liverpool fans should feel lucky to have him. He is top scorer and assists in the Premier League this season. Liverpool will lose a lot if he accepts the offers of Arab teams.

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I would say we saw Arsenal's dominance in the first half. Liverpool played a defensive strategy in the first half. They don't try to attack too much. Perhaps Kopp tried to find the weaknesses in Arsenal's defence. Although Arsenal played well in the first half, Arsenal failed to dominate in the second half as Liverpool's players played very attacking. In the second half Liverpool players were able to make several great attacks. Also, the performance of Liverpool's players was very organized throughout the match. Arsenal lost due to their poor match tactics and weakness of attacking players.
Arsenal were not weak in attack, but they were too poor at taking advantage of some of their big chances. Throughout the match, Arsenal recorded 5 chances, 5 of which failed to become goals, Liverpool only recorded 1 big chance. Arsenal also have 5 corners compared to Liverpool's 2, that could be the reason why I say Arsenal are not weak in attack.

On the other hand, Liverpool managed to block 5 Arsenal shots and Alison made 6 saves compared to Arsenal's 2 saves. Liverpool defended well throughout the match, they were also lucky that Arsenal failed to take advantage of their opportunities perfectly.

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This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team. Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form. Aston Villa are also firing at the moment but I doubt they can maintain the momentum for too long. Liverpool also don’t look like much problem for Manchester City at the moment without Mo Salah. Guardiola obviously have an advantage in the race.
Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp have something to take home this season, both coaches are extremely careful when dealing with their opponents, they wouldn't want a situation where they would worry over something that's just purely key. I'm so glad to watch the performances of these elite clubs becoming competitive and promising, these teams doesn’t. The teams that have risen surprise are Aston Villa and Westham United. They're strong enough to withstand the elite clubs, giving up is not an option. Manchester City and Liverpool are the main clubs that have strong fight for the EPL title this season.
It's one thing to say Liverpool and Man City are title contenders, but Aston Villa demands that their presence in the title race be taken into account. That means we have to add Unai Emery to the list on a par with Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp, but when it comes to maintaining balance and consistency, personally I have more confidence in Man City and Liverpool. The competition in the top four continues with a very small difference in points, a small mistake will have a huge impact on the position in the standings. Arsenal and Tottenham will pressure Man City from below, automatically Pep and his troops must be able to secure full points when they face Newcastle next week.

The teams competing in the top four of the standings temporarily face other challenges, some of their key players are carrying out duties to strengthen their respective national teams, but this will not reduce the tension of the Champions League zone competition itself. Injury factors play a role in other forms, I think De Bruyne return to Pep main squad is a blessing, but it feels less than ideal because Halaand now has to enter the treatment room.

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January 08, 2024, 09:30:37 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.
This agree or disagree? Huh

Arsenal must try to win the match, it shouldn't be debated.  Grin
If the players played poorly, it doesn't mean they have no intention to win the game/match. Arsenal players couldn't make a very serious threat, it is probably caused by the strong defense of Liverpool. Liverpool defenders tried to give no chance for Arsenal players to get good opportunities in scoring goals. We must appreciate what have done by Liverpool defenders, they were able to make Arsenal attackers feel frustrated.

The own goal was a lucky goal. But the second goal was a goal made by their efforts. You can't claim Liverpool won the game because of the luck factor.  Wink


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January 08, 2024, 09:31:10 PM

I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.

I don't agree that Arsenal didn't try to win that match. Arsenal and Liverpool tried from the start to win with the strategy they played. Both of them played well to score goals but Arsenal failed to take advantage of many opportunities.

The FA Cup round 3 match was very entertaining. For those who bet on this match, it was very exciting with the number of opportunities that both teams had in the first and second half.
I don't know how to evaluate the match so you think the match is boring.

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January 08, 2024, 09:47:03 PM

This is my take on the EPL at the moment. I think it would be more difficult for Arsenal to battle it out with Manchester City now that City have got all key players back in the team. Arsenal seem to be the ones who have lost their form. Aston Villa are also firing at the moment but I doubt they can maintain the momentum for too long. Liverpool also don’t look like much problem for Manchester City at the moment without Mo Salah. Guardiola obviously have an advantage in the race.
it is unfortunate Arsenal are involuntarily dropping from the EPL title race following their three consecutive games that they dropped points by losing to Westham, Fulham and drawing against Liverpool giving Liverpool a place at the top of the table. No disrespect to Aston Villa but we all know sooner or later they won't be able to face the heat of the position they currently occupy on the table as Manchester City are now bouncing back with the recovery of their key players KDB and Doku from injury with Haaland soonest. I even doubt if Liverpool will still be at the top by the end of February with the absence of Salah at the moment.

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January 08, 2024, 09:48:19 PM

The main thing that Arsenal should not be knocked out on the back of this defeat and not continue to lose in the EPL, because the statistics of their games does not look comforting, 4 points in the last 5 matches. This is terrible for their position in the table, as a 5 point gap from first place in such a difficult season is quite a big deal

If I refer to the statistics and line-up that Arteta fielded, I'm not sure they are really aiming for victory in the FA Cup match. the reason is, Arteta did not play his full core squad. whether intentionally or not, I really don't know what Arteta is thinking and planning. what is certain is that Arteta has made changes to the rotation of his players.  But let's just say that, if the Arsenal coach focuses his squad more on the Premier League. maybe that's why Arteta didn't play some of his main players, and I hope that's the scenario. or maybe Arteta is running out of ideas against Liverpool, but that conclusion seems unrealistic. so, the closest scenario is if Arsenal focuses more on the Premier League. after all, the course of this match was quite balanced based on statistics. in fact, in terms of opportunities, Arsenal is better. the first goal was a blunder by Jakub Kiwior, and Liverpool's second goal came in the 95th minute. well, let's see how Arsenal plays their match in the Premier League later. and I hope Arteta is able to get his squad back on the right track, because after all the opportunity is still wide open. after all, this competition still has quite a long match, and what is certain is that Arsenal cannot repeat the same mistakes as last season, which saw a decline as the competition neared the end.

Perhaps some players were not feeling well and he decided not to release them for the English Cup game, precisely because they are important place in the standings of their league, and that the players to the main games would be fully prepared both mentally and physically.

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January 08, 2024, 09:54:42 PM

Arsenal and Liverpool had a really early matchup in the FA Cup which was like a finale. Arsenal have said goodbye to the cup very early after this match. Actually Arsenal were pretty good in the first half but still couldn't score any goal. After that Liverpool started to recover and performed really well. Despite not having Salah Liverpool still won the match by 2-0 at Emirates.

I wasn't expecting to see Arsenal this desperate.  Sad  They could have scored a goal to make it more competitive at least. Their downfall still goes on these days.

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