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May 30, 2014, 11:46:03 AM
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Both GAW and Zeus have updated the Power Consumption. Falcon is now at 1040?Huh?

That is not going to fly.

Hoping for the new FW upgrade as well.
The change from 640 to 740 was OK, but with the 1040watt i'm hoping my new 1000W PSU manages until the promised FW upgrade that will get it to the advertised 740w. (Or at least below 850w as most will have a 850-1000w PSU)
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May 30, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
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I finally got around to playing with my 2 Fury's.

Thoughts:

1. DHL did a security check on the package, and it looks like they opened / tapped it shut. Luckily nothing was missing, and the package arrived within two days of shipping from Hong Kong. So kudos for DHL.

2. The Fury are packaged really nicely in solid white boxes; lots of protecting foam. The fans are unplugged from the Fury inside of the packaging, but it's easy to plug the fan power cable into the Fury.

3. The power supply (Brick type) is the definition of "no-name". There isn't a company listed on either the all white box it came in / on the power supply itself. I wouldn't put much faith in the CE / FCC symbols listed on the bottom. The brick also would get pretty toasty; more then it should be.  Wink

4. The Fury itself feels solid, but light. This makes sense because the board itself that contains the chips is pretty small, and the heatsink appears to be made out of aluminum. The fan seems to be decent quality, and they used 4 bolts / screws to attach the fan to the heatsink. I believe the Blizzard from Zeus only uses 2 screws to hold the fan grill on.

5. I found this to be a little funny / GAW might want to contact the manufacture. The silkscreen on the heatsink that says GAWminers The Fury is upside-down when the miner is sitting on its feet. Looks a bit odd due to this. Doesn't affect anything performance wise, but cheapens the look a bit. Sad

6. The two included USB cables are very flexible and white colored. NOTE: Both USB cables were a really tight to fit in the USB socket's on the Fury miner's. Please be careful when plugging them in; you don't want to snap the port off.

7. The fan on the Fury is quieter then the fan on a GridSeed 5 chip. This is really good news; I was worried about running these in a bedroom.

8. Blue LED's illuminate when the software miner has connected to the Fury, and this lets you know it's hashing.

9. The cgminer that is available seems like it needs some work. I was having some issues with the cgminer sitting on shares for almost 30 seconds, and then dumping it as stale. The number of HW errors and rejects is also pretty high. I'm going to try it on my laptop and the Zenminer eventually.

10. At 328 Freq. I was seeing around ~1.3MH but I can't say for certain due to the cgminer issues I was experiencing. The average hashrate would drop during these issues; I'm going to try another pool.

11. The included power brick is most likely not going to last a year. I remember reading that GAW was offering a one year (looks like it's 6 months now) warranty on all of these miners. I really hope the power brick is included in that warranty. I'm going to place the brick's behind the Fury to try and catch some of the airflow.

12. The Fury itself does get slightly warm on the side of the heatsink. This makes sense seeing how it's dissipating about 40w of power. The good news is that the included fan / heatsink is able to keep it cool.

13. Having issues getting Zenminer to work; was able to setup the miner, but after logging out I couldn't log back in. In contact with Zenminer trying to fix this.

TLDR:Fury looks nice, includes everything you need to hash, power brick gets toasty hot, ~1.3MH, cgminer is a bit wonky on the computer I tried it on. I'll try it on my laptop and let you guys know if there's a difference in performance. Also, GAW did everything they said they'd do and the product is hashing faster then advertised. I just wish the power brick was better quality. Maybe in future shipments they might want to change it out; reduce warranty issues.  Cool
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May 30, 2014, 12:06:42 PM
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Falcon - Ghash - MultiPool. 1 Hour



1 hour ?

2000 A 138R and 143H

is it well?
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May 30, 2014, 12:07:03 PM
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I finally got around to playing with my 2 Fury's.

Thoughts:

1. DHL did a security check on the package, and it looks like they opened / tapped it shut. Luckily nothing was missing, and the package arrived within two days of shipping from Hong Kong. So kudos for DHL.

2. The Fury are packaged really nicely in solid white boxes; lots of protecting foam. The fans are unplugged from the Fury inside of the packaging, but it's easy to plug the fan power cable into the Fury.

3. The power supply (Brick type) is the definition of "no-name". There isn't a company listed on either the all white box it came in / on the power supply itself. I wouldn't put much faith in the CE / FCC symbols listed on the bottom. The brick also would get pretty toasty; more then it should be.  Wink

4. The Fury itself feels solid, but light. This makes sense because the board itself that contains the chips is pretty small, and the heatsink appears to be made out of aluminum. The fan seems to be decent quality, and they used 4 bolts / screws to attach the fan to the heatsink. I believe the Blizzard from Zeus only uses 2 screws to hold the fan grill on.

5. I found this to be a little funny / GAW might want to contact the manufacture. The silkscreen on the heatsink that says GAWminers The Fury is upside-down when the miner is sitting on its feet. Looks a bit odd due to this. Doesn't affect anything performance wise, but cheapens the look a bit. Sad

6. The two included USB cables are very flexible and white colored. NOTE: Both USB cables were a really tight to fit in the USB socket's on the Fury miner's. Please be careful when plugging them in; you don't want to snap the port off.

7. The fan on the Fury is quieter then the fan on a GridSeed 5 chip. This is really good news; I was worried about running these in a bedroom.

8. Blue LED's illuminate when the software miner has connected to the Fury, and this lets you know it's hashing.

9. The cgminer that is available seems like it needs some work. I was having some issues with the cgminer sitting on shares for almost 30 seconds, and then dumping it as stale. The number of HW errors and rejects is also pretty high. I'm going to try it on my laptop and the Zenminer eventually.

10. At 328 Freq. I was seeing around ~1.3MH but I can't say for certain due to the cgminer issues I was experiencing. The average hashrate would drop during these issues; I'm going to try another pool.

11. The included power brick is most likely not going to last a year. I remember reading that GAW was offering a one year (looks like it's 6 months now) warranty on all of these miners. I really hope the power brick is included in that warranty. I'm going to place the brick's behind the Fury to try and catch some of the airflow.

12. The Fury itself does get slightly warm on the side of the heatsink. This makes sense seeing how it's dissipating about 40w of power. The good news is that the included fan / heatsink is able to keep it cool.

13. Having issues getting Zenminer to work; was able to setup the miner, but after logging out I couldn't log back in. In contact with Zenminer trying to fix this.

TLDR:Fury looks nice, includes everything you need to hash, power brick gets toasty hot, ~1.3MH, cgminer is a bit wonky on the computer I tried it on. I'll try it on my laptop and let you guys know if there's a difference in performance. Also, GAW did everything they said they'd do and the product is hashing faster then advertised. I just wish the power brick was better quality. Maybe in future shipments they might want to change it out; reduce warranty issues.  Cool

Thank you for the nice review.
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May 30, 2014, 12:23:54 PM
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How is everyone's "Discarded" shares looking on the zenminer page?  After running overnight mine are double the accepted shares.



The poolside hashrates seem to be fairly accurate though.

Honestly, I'm not sure what that number actually means.  The option "no-submit-stale" is not enabled, so I don't think it has anything to do with locally discarding shares that are determined to be stale.  Thoughts?
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May 30, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
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What kind of usb cable does the falcon use? USB A- B? or a USB A to mini B like the furry and gridseeds?
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May 30, 2014, 12:30:04 PM
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What kind of usb cable does the falcon use? USB A- B? or a USB A to mini B like the furry and gridseeds?


A to B (not mini)
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May 30, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
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Falcon - Ghash - MultiPool. 1 Hour

http://s8.postimg.org/62kbp0orp/multipool_1hour.png

1 hour ?

2000 A 138R and 143H

is it well?

Sorry guys. Turned the falcon off. Can't stand the HW errors any longer.
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May 30, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
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Been running the Fury for ~18 hours @328mhz.

ICA0                | (5s):1.318M (avg):1.335Mh/s | A:5440 R:43 HW:283 U:0.0/m

Dropped it down to 320 .. Still seeing errors @ ~1.25MH/s... Going to let it run for a bit. Then try 300mhz. Sad
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May 30, 2014, 12:41:32 PM
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1) the fury  runs at   1.3mh   with 40 watts  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529093.msg7007242#msg7007242  from _____TR________

question to _____TR______ what is your power source a brick or an atx PSU with some pcie adapter cords?

I ask because watts  WITH A BRICK would be much higher then with a plat atx psu.  So 40 watts is good if it is a brick  .  Since I think a plat psu with pcie adapters would do 32-35 watts


PSU: Corsair HX750 ATX PSU was used for testing.

Now with setup below Fury is using 45watts avg. at 1.329MH/s avg. When Fury is unplugged power meter shows 342watts

Same PSU now running three Blades, six 5-chips, and one Fury. Add two powered USB hubs and one Raspberry Pi with a total avg. of 387 watts at wall.
Total of 20.746MH/s

Watts measured with a 'Kill A Watt P3' meter.

Software for Blades and Fury running on a PC not connected to power meter



2) the widow

3) the falcon

4) the war machine

5)zen controller

so please quote and add info to the 5 above.

we can use this to organize  a support thread.
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May 30, 2014, 12:44:27 PM
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It's morning in GAW's headquarters, I'm sure an update is coming.

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May 30, 2014, 12:45:55 PM
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Been running the Fury for ~18 hours @328mhz.

ICA0                | (5s):1.318M (avg):1.335Mh/s | A:5440 R:43 HW:283 U:0.0/m

Dropped it down to 320 .. Still seeing errors @ ~1.25MH/s... Going to let it run for a bit. Then try 300mhz. Sad

Adjusting the frequency, won't change the HW 's believe me I tried. Best to shut it off and wait for firmware update. And with btc going over 615 today very sad.
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May 30, 2014, 12:52:18 PM
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I understand it is more important to get less speed when having less hardware errors.
I have not received my unit (week two) but I'm worried.

If you get 1 Mhs, for that, you can not have so many errors.
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May 30, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
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Been running the Fury for ~18 hours @328mhz.

ICA0                | (5s):1.318M (avg):1.335Mh/s | A:5440 R:43 HW:283 U:0.0/m

Dropped it down to 320 .. Still seeing errors @ ~1.25MH/s... Going to let it run for a bit. Then try 300mhz. Sad

Adjusting the frequency, won't change the HW 's believe me I tried. Best to shut it off and wait for firmware update. And with btc going over 615 today very sad.

I don't think the HW errors hurt anything other than your bottom line and pissing off your pool.... My Difficulty bounces between 32-256 like crazy. My Gridseeds on the same pool are firm at 512. Sad

Interestingly tho, HW errors are a solid 5% still after dropping to 320. So hopefully you're right, and this is a simple firmware update.
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May 30, 2014, 01:09:28 PM
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Both GAW and Zeus have updated the Power Consumption. Falcon is now at 1040?Huh?

That is not going to fly.

And WOW!  What an update.  Zeus has more than doubled their power estimate/MH, in one case almost tripling it - and they recommend 20+% higher wattage power supplies than their specs.

Good news:  GAW is whipping Zeus on the price of the Fury vs. Blizzard (which appear to be identical boxes or nearly so).  Zeus also appears to have rather seriously revamped their product offering, dropping several models, varying a few others...  Black Widow looks like its going to need a price adjustment to stay in line.

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May 30, 2014, 01:15:06 PM
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I personally don't care or worry a bout HW errors as long as the pools side has rate looks good. That is a gauge of real work being done. I am also only seeing about .008% rejects pool side with is great.
That being said I see a decent amount of HW errors on my Fury compared to my gridseeds but its doing 1.3+ poolside so I could care less Smiley
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May 30, 2014, 01:16:11 PM
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Anyone know why they chose to use cgminer 3.1.1 instead of later releases? 3.1.1 is very primitive and could be why these thing draw so much power and hashrate suffers?

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May 30, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
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anyone else get stuck paying for shipping. I had to pay the DHL guy 20 dollars to get mine

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May 30, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
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How is everyone's "Discarded" shares looking on the zenminer page?  After running overnight mine are double the accepted shares.



The poolside hashrates seem to be fairly accurate though.

Honestly, I'm not sure what that number actually means.  The option "no-submit-stale" is not enabled, so I don't think it has anything to do with locally discarding shares that are determined to be stale.  Thoughts?

Be nice to get the HW error count as well.

Oh, by the way, for those of you who don't see your pool stats - log cycle.  I was showing a friend the setup last night and log cycled and voila! There were SOME pool stats (not HW errors).

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May 30, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
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anyone else get stuck paying for shipping. I had to pay the DHL guy 20 dollars to get mine

It not a shipping charge. If you're in Canada, we have the joy of paying import fees.

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