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I heard about this mirror link, and I'm just curious why this casino has one. I've gambled on different sites like popular ones such as Sportsbet and Stake, and they only provided their main domain. With this mirror link, it might be a bit confusing since the terms are supposed to be written on the main website. But thanks for the answer, though. I created an account here, but maybe I didn’t notice I was already using a mirror link. Anyway, let's follow the development of this case.
I’m not really sure why they do this but I think it due to the legal issue. They might trying to open their casino on some restricted country by using mirror link so that their main brand that has license will not be subject to legal issue. Honestly, I really hate playing on mirror link since it’s prone to phishing if you didn’t notice that the mirror link you are using is not official. I still preferred playing in the casino main website alone. If that is to avoid legal issues, I don’t think it’s wise since regulators would still know they’re operating in the Philippines, especially since Manny Pacquiao was their promoter. Hiring him to promote a casino likely required a huge amount of money, so why not just take care of whatever is necessary to ensure gamblers can access the casino through a single domain name?
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ryzaadit
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September 01, 2024, 03:28:15 PM |
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Reading these cases, while in Vietname language. Based of my perspective and seeing these. I believe, these regarding the document you are submitted for the "KYC" is not because your country or resident is have restricted law regarding gambling. 1. Cause the lock is happening after you submit the "KYC", meaning there has somethings wrong with your document is being submitted 2. Vietname is not on the list restricted country based term & condition BK8. Now, I will waiting BK8 response side. But, I'm sure these regarding the document not because your law country regarding gambling.
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Thuytrang1987
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September 01, 2024, 11:39:33 PM |
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Reading these cases, while in Vietname language. Based of my perspective and seeing these. I believe, these regarding the document you are submitted for the "KYC" is not because your country or resident is have restricted law regarding gambling. 1. Cause the lock is happening after you submit the "KYC", meaning there has somethings wrong with your document is being submitted 2. Vietname is not on the list restricted country based term & condition BK8. Now, I will waiting BK8 response side. But, I'm sure these regarding the document not because your law country regarding gambling. They are scam site. If i loss. Nothing happen. That is all.
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BK8.Official (OP)
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September 02, 2024, 01:53:48 AM |
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Hi everyone,
As you already know, I was previously able to return users' deposits as long as the ToS violation wasn't too severe. This time, I also fought with the decision-makers to get what users wanted. However, this case is different. Here's what happened: - Our system detected suspicious transactions from the user in question. - Which we risk him for monitoring is due to his suspicious behavior, FTD a small amount by crypto then following with big deposit by bank (Fiat), hence we request KYC, but we found out KYC is fraud his suspicious level go high hence we suspend him according our procedure. - The user failed to provide valid documents; in fact, the images provided were either (1) fake documents or (2) doctored. I cannot provide more details about this due to privacy concerns and the sensitive nature of the documents*. - Therefore, we proceeded to terminate the account according to our ToS: "15.1 The Company reserves the right in its sole and absolute discretion to void any winnings, freeze and forfeit any balance in your account, and/or to deactivate your account without cause at any time including, without limitation, if: ... v. you have failed to provide the identification information upon request;"
We take KYC issues very seriously, as per regulations, and attempting to use false identification is a crime. The team is confident in their decision and won't make any adjustments, so I cannot support you further in this case.
*Since the evidence is covered by an NDA, I can't share it in public areas, but I will share it with DT members or trusted members in this forum via PM (if needed).
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Thuytrang1987
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September 02, 2024, 03:14:17 AM |
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Hi Every one. Let see this. As i said before. They are really scam site. I sent my documents. But they said my documents fake. That is not true. My document is legit. Can check by any way. BK8 allow deposit with cypto and bank. That is not problem. I can deposit any amount i want. And I play all game fair. My ID is approved by the Viet Nam Govement. And it not fake. It can be check. All BK8 said not true, and lies... They know players in VietNam cant do anything with them. They only give bullshits reason to take money from the players. So let stay away this fuck bookmaker: BK8 . Dont like me. Loss money and cant do anything to them. They know and understand that! BK8 is working with not license of goverment in VietNam. That is why they can lock and take money from Players. Stay away this scam site.! My warning send to all players in Asia . I reported to all Live casino group in VietNam about this fuck bookmaker. And Many players like me. They locked and took money from other players and share that money to their team. They have many reports in VietNam. But all players like me cant can anything to them. Only warning to other players
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ryzaadit
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September 02, 2024, 04:24:25 AM |
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Ouch, seems like you got the case "Fraud KYC" by following on the suspicious transaction. Just like I tough, your account got banned after you do "KYC" so might be have something wrong with the data you are submitted and seem like is right, Mostly the case BK8 we are seeing is just a simple "Sportbet" activity like arbitrage or abusing some promotion. Then, BK8 refunds the deposit and refuses the service to them. Now, we seeing the case "Fraud KYC" these one the first and only ones we see in your case. Based of the explanation, I think I prefer to believe on the "BK8" side since they are really want to show the proof because is under NDA. Maybe DT-1 member from Bitcointalk can verify the data, If they are true or not. On these specially case, I more prefer trusted the word from them since you have a really complicated explanation since the beginning.
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Thuytrang1987
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September 02, 2024, 06:00:27 AM |
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Ouch, seems like you got the case "Fraud KYC" by following on the suspicious transaction. Just like I tough, your account got banned after you do "KYC" so might be have something wrong with the data you are submitted and seem like is right, Mostly the case BK8 we are seeing is just a simple "Sportbet" activity like arbitrage or abusing some promotion. Then, BK8 refunds the deposit and refuses the service to them. Now, we seeing the case "Fraud KYC" these one the first and only ones we see in your case. Based of the explanation, I think I prefer to believe on the "BK8" side since they are really want to show the proof because is under NDA. Maybe DT-1 member from Bitcointalk can verify the data, If they are true or not. On these specially case, I more prefer trusted the word from them since you have a really complicated explanation since the beginning. No bro. My ID approved by VietNam goverment. Not fake. It can be check by anyway. They are scammers so all they said not true. They dont have license from VietNam goverment to work cause in VietNam , The goverment not allow for gamble. That is why i cant report them anywhere about them that they are scammers. Players dont have choice and the Law not protect for the players. The BK8 scammers know that. So they cant suspend any player who win with bullshit reason! You understand what i said?
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ryzaadit
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September 02, 2024, 06:05:16 AM |
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I'm not saying your ID. I'm saying about the data you're submitted. You could be edited, fake it, and using other data of other people and trying to KYC with it on BK8. That's fraud...... Do you think my country allowed Gambling ? No, Indonesia are quite restricted too about gambling we got some people arrested especially the house. That's why most of online casino who running their site in Indonesia using Kamboja server. Back to the topic, you probably fake it the data you're submitted. They (BK8) even dare to show DT-1 for the proof to check your data submitted cause they under NDA (cannot sharing any private information to the public).
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Thuytrang1987
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September 02, 2024, 06:59:08 AM |
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I'm not saying your ID. I'm saying about the data you're submitted. You could be edited, fake it, and using other data of other people and trying to KYC with it on BK8. That's fraud...... Do you think my country allowed Gambling ? No, Indonesia are quite restricted too about gambling we got some people arrested especially the house. That's why most of online casino who running their site in Indonesia using Kamboja server. Back to the topic, you probably fake it the data you're submitted. They (BK8) even dare to show DT-1 for the proof to check your data submitted cause they under NDA (cannot sharing any private information to the public). I bro. I use my self ID. Not edit, fake. They are the scammers. Stay away this fuck BK8. That is all!
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September 02, 2024, 07:09:23 AM |
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I tried withdraw 317$ about 8M Vietnamdong. And they didnt approve it. They required KYC my account. I sent documents to them for KYC. After 30 minutes they blocked my account and stolen all my money.
So basically they didn't approve your KYC*. See, I'm correct again... Failing KYC means being instantly banned in every casino I know, so it's not new. Determining whether the ID used in the KYC process is fake or not is outside my expertise, so I won't dig into it further. Anyway, to avoid this issue, users can try to get verified BEFORE depositing a significant amount of money. That's what I did in the past. I made sure my account was clean and eligible, and then I played -- not the other way around. You never know if your ID has already been used by a hacker or whatever. If you use a fake ID or Photoshop your photo, man, it will get caught easily. Nowadays, I rarely deposit big amounts and only play for fun, so I don't bother with KYC.
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September 02, 2024, 12:39:17 PM |
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I'm not saying your ID. I'm saying about the data you're submitted. You could be edited, fake it, and using other data of other people and trying to KYC with it on BK8. That's fraud...... Do you think my country allowed Gambling ? No, Indonesia are quite restricted too about gambling we got some people arrested especially the house. That's why most of online casino who running their site in Indonesia using Kamboja server. Back to the topic, you probably fake it the data you're submitted. They (BK8) even dare to show DT-1 for the proof to check your data submitted cause they under NDA (cannot sharing any private information to the public). I bro. I use my self ID. Not edit, fake. They are the scammers. Stay away this fuck BK8. That is all! If they didn't approve your documents then that means there's something wrong with what you present to them. So far you are the only one posting a negative claim against bk8 also you already got the word from their representative so maybe its best for you to provide what they ask. So what I think the best solution on your issue if you can provide another documents that can verify your identity. I didn't encounter this issue so maybe try to present another supporting documents that can validate that your ID presented is not fake.
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September 02, 2024, 02:08:14 PM |
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Hi bro. Dont trust this Scam sites. I dont fake identity. Cause Iam Vietnamese . I have no reason to do that. I deposite money by my bank account and crypto too. All the scammers said that is not true. If my account have problem. Why they notice immediatly. I played game 1 day. Then I make withdraw. No problem from me. They dont want pay for the winner. That is all My ID can be check or meet me anywhere . I think these scammers wont do that. I dont have free time to tell with all people here. . Only want play live casino with a trust bookmarker. But unlucky I met a scam site.!
Players cant cheat with bookmarkers. Live casino. Nerver.! I reported this scamsite to other groups in VietNam. There are many people like me. Mean Iam not a problem. They are Scammers
If they are trust and fairplay. They will notice to me about my account and refund my deposite money. But they dont >>>>>They are scammer and robbers
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Distinctin
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September 02, 2024, 04:23:40 PM |
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If they are trust and fairplay. They will notice to me about my account and refund my deposite money. But they dont >>>>>They are scammer and robbers
This is the problem that hasn't been solved. v. you have failed to provide the identification information upon request;"
We take KYC issues very seriously, as per regulations, and attempting to use false identification is a crime. The team is confident in their decision and won't make any adjustments, so I cannot support you further in this case.
*Since the evidence is covered by an NDA, I can't share it in public areas, but I will share it with DT members or trusted members in this forum via PM (if needed).
I guess there’s nothing you can do for now, as according to BK8, you haven’t submitted the correct requirements. Also, based on their statement, they are willing to share some information with the DT members, which suggests they are transparent and want a third party to verify it. If you want, you can also do the same—approach a DT member and let them evaluate your proof to see if it would support your case.
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Pandu Geddon
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September 02, 2024, 05:11:43 PM |
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If they are trust and fairplay. They will notice to me about my account and refund my deposite money. But they dont >>>>>They are scammer and robbers
your case is closed. no casino will be fair to cheaters. did you read the ToS? maybe your friends in the group you mentioned also gamble like you. sorry for your bad experience, maybe you should find another casino and play more wisely. read and understand the ToS in the future to avoid this kind of loss again.
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BK8.Official (OP)
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September 03, 2024, 04:17:13 AM |
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Hi Every one. Let see this. As i said before. They are really scam site. I sent my documents. But they said my documents fake. That is not true. My document is legit. Can check by any way. BK8 allow deposit with cypto and bank. That is not problem. I can deposit any amount i want. And I play all game fair. My ID is approved by the Viet Nam Govement. And it not fake. It can be check. All BK8 said not true, and lies... This is not about what game you play and cheating or not, but forging KYC documents is the main problem you can say I'm not telling the truth many times, but I have the eviden that your KYC is fake If you are a DT member, don't hesitate to ask I will send the proof via PM
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September 03, 2024, 09:36:36 AM Last edit: September 03, 2024, 12:16:50 PM by hilariousandco |
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Hi Every one. Let see this. As i said before. They are really scam site. I sent my documents. But they said my documents fake. That is not true. My document is legit. Can check by any way. BK8 allow deposit with cypto and bank. That is not problem. I can deposit any amount i want. And I play all game fair. My ID is approved by the Viet Nam Govement. And it not fake. It can be check. All BK8 said not true, and lies... This is not about what game you play and cheating or not, but forging KYC documents is the main problem you can say I'm not telling the truth many times, but I have the eviden that your KYC is fake If you are a DT member, don't hesitate to ask I will send the proof via PMEveryone let see! First their support said I cheat the live game to win. Now They change . Tell me fake KYC. LOL So who is scammer here? I dont fake KYC. No Fake ID. My ID is legit . Approved by VietNam goverment. It can be check by Zalo app or other app from the goverment. I have eviden my ID and KYC is legit. Dont tell lies. Do you want send a staff meet up with me and check my ID.? BK8 is a scam site or me ? only your scam site tell all not trust. I dont need the profit from the game. I want to my money back. If you site is fairplay and not scam. But I think Never . Bk8 in VietNam is scam site. BK8 is working without allow from VietNam goverment. And Scam the players. That is all! If they are trust and fairplay. They will notice to me about my account and refund my deposite money. But they dont >>>>>They are scammer and robbers
your case is closed. no casino will be fair to cheaters. did you read the ToS? maybe your friends in the group you mentioned also gamble like you. sorry for your bad experience, maybe you should find another casino and play more wisely. read and understand the ToS in the future to avoid this kind of loss again. I say again. I dont fake ID and fake KYC. All from Bk8 said are not true. My ID is legit approved by the goverment. And it can be check by many ways. I can meet up any one from Bk8 to check it. You understand? Nothing happend if I play game and loss. This happend here is i win. They dont want to pay for the winner. Cause They are working without license from the Goverment. And They can block account of any player win then take money from these account. That is all ! BK8 VietNam is scammers I will post ad BK8 VietNam is big scam in Facebook ad. Warning for all players in VietNam stay away this scam site.! Stolent my money and lock my account easy. But The gamblers will block your scam site in future. Many and many. ! Let wait! and see the Domino in VietNam. Nobody want join with the scam bookmarker like BK8
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September 03, 2024, 11:18:49 AM |
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Hi everyone,
As you already know, I was previously able to return users' deposits as long as the ToS violation wasn't too severe. This time, I also fought with the decision-makers to get what users wanted. However, this case is different. Here's what happened: - Our system detected suspicious transactions from the user in question. - Which we risk him for monitoring is due to his suspicious behavior, FTD a small amount by crypto then following with big deposit by bank (Fiat), hence we request KYC, but we found out KYC is fraud his suspicious level go high hence we suspend him according our procedure. - The user failed to provide valid documents; in fact, the images provided were either (1) fake documents or (2) doctored. I cannot provide more details about this due to privacy concerns and the sensitive nature of the documents*. - Therefore, we proceeded to terminate the account according to our ToS: "15.1 The Company reserves the right in its sole and absolute discretion to void any winnings, freeze and forfeit any balance in your account, and/or to deactivate your account without cause at any time including, without limitation, if: ... v. you have failed to provide the identification information upon request;"
We take KYC issues very seriously, as per regulations, and attempting to use false identification is a crime. The team is confident in their decision and won't make any adjustments, so I cannot support you further in this case.
*Since the evidence is covered by an NDA, I can't share it in public areas, but I will share it with DT members or trusted members in this forum via PM (if needed).
First of all, congratulations on your patience and transparency in this situation. It was good to see how you handled the situation, from showing which points served as a basis in the terms of service to making this decision. It was quite clear and there is no denying that you followed all the rules to make this decision.
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September 03, 2024, 02:42:59 PM |
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Hi everyone,
As you already know, I was previously able to return users' deposits as long as the ToS violation wasn't too severe. This time, I also fought with the decision-makers to get what users wanted. However, this case is different. Here's what happened: - Our system detected suspicious transactions from the user in question. - Which we risk him for monitoring is due to his suspicious behavior, FTD a small amount by crypto then following with big deposit by bank (Fiat), hence we request KYC, but we found out KYC is fraud his suspicious level go high hence we suspend him according our procedure. - The user failed to provide valid documents; in fact, the images provided were either (1) fake documents or (2) doctored. I cannot provide more details about this due to privacy concerns and the sensitive nature of the documents*. - Therefore, we proceeded to terminate the account according to our ToS: "15.1 The Company reserves the right in its sole and absolute discretion to void any winnings, freeze and forfeit any balance in your account, and/or to deactivate your account without cause at any time including, without limitation, if: ... v. you have failed to provide the identification information upon request;"
We take KYC issues very seriously, as per regulations, and attempting to use false identification is a crime. The team is confident in their decision and won't make any adjustments, so I cannot support you further in this case.
*Since the evidence is covered by an NDA, I can't share it in public areas, but I will share it with DT members or trusted members in this forum via PM (if needed).
First of all, congratulations on your patience and transparency in this situation. It was good to see how you handled the situation, from showing which points served as a basis in the terms of service to making this decision. It was quite clear and there is no denying that you followed all the rules to make this decision. No bro. You dont understand. BK8 in VietNam is a scamsite. You can see here. ! I use google translate . https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/03/9BmZd.jpeghttps://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/03/9BGpI.jpegFirst they accused me cheating to defeat their system. Here is VietNamese conversation https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/03/9BScb.jpeghttps://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/03/9BZ0v.jpegNow they said fake KYC. See and think that. They dont want to pay for the winner. Only want take money from the players. So they will give many reasons. But all are bullshit. And not true! That is all! Scam site
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ryzaadit
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September 06, 2024, 06:03:25 AM |
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Yooo @roycilik.
Do you realize, in BK8 promotion. Daily Login 5x wagering promotion is now missing ? I qualify for these promotion last month and getting distribution on 3rd September. I was realized, now the promotion is gone. Those promotion is my first & last time promotion ~LOL.
Any chance these promotion is coming back ? or perhaps is only for under Silver VIP.
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Thuytrang1987
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September 07, 2024, 02:46:55 AM |
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Yooo @roycilik.
Do you realize, in BK8 promotion. Daily Login 5x wagering promotion is now missing ? I qualify for these promotion last month and getting distribution on 3rd September. I was realized, now the promotion is gone. Those promotion is my first & last time promotion ~LOL.
Any chance these promotion is coming back ? or perhaps is only for under Silver VIP.
Dont play with this scamsite before too late bro. Choose another trust bookmarkers to play! See my case. ! Win up money. They locked and taken all my money
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