Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

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Search the Internet to see that even Ukraine is admitting that Oreshnik didn't carry explosives. https://kyivindependent.com/bild-russias-oreshnik-missile-that-targeted-dnipro-was-actually-modified-rubezh-missile/   Lots of sites say this.
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Not that you silly, the part where you go all creative about re-purposing the weapon.

That's what all the news is, that Russia repurposed Oreshnik from some other missiles that they had. Of course, they made some changes. Or explain what you mean by 're-purposing'.

You're losing it... grasping at straws so you don't look silly.

They did not re-purpose anything stupid. They simply used an ICMB full of decoys in exactly the same manner as it is intended to use. Again, this is technology from the 50's. There is no new threat, there is no economic way of re-purposing, it does not serve any military objective nor can help the war.

It is propaganda just for the internal Ruzzian public TV consumption and ... well, people like you... you know.

[BADecker]

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That's what all the news is, that Russia repurposed Oreshnik from some other missiles that they had. Of course, they made some changes. Or explain what you mean by 're-purposing'.

You're losing it... grasping at straws so you don't look silly.

They did not re-purpose anything stupid. They simply used an ICMB full of decoys in exactly the same manner as it is intended to use. Again, this is technology from the 50's. There is no new threat, there is no economic way of re-purposing, it does not serve any military objective nor can help the war.

It is propaganda just for the internal Ruzzian public TV consumption and ... well, people like you... you know.

Even if they took tech from 5,000 years ago, they obviously updated some of it, and it worked. If it was indeed old tech and old equipment, it would be updated to take out Europe if that is what Russia wanted to do.

Your talk that they can't manufacture is stupid. Why? Two reasons. Being old tech, they don't have to manufacture. They have a lot of it around that they can update - like repurpose - with the latest guidance systems. And with moves that Putin has made with China lately, China will be falling in line and supplying Putin with whatever he wants so that they don't even have to manufacture if they don't want

You have one good point in your favor. As long as you can talk yourself into feeling comfortable, you are probably safe. Once an Oreshnik takes you out along with a bunch of your bridge, you won't be feeling anything. So, feel good as long as you can feel. Life is more fun that way.

[paxmao]

Perhaps you can give some details on how that repurposing works? (hint: you can't, you do not have a clue of what you are talking about).

Meanwhile, this relatively simple technology called UAV AKA "drone" is actually doing something that does make an impact. 5% of the refining capacity of Ruzzia has now been taken in one single strike.

This is what happens when you say you have the best air defence, but you don't.

https://londonlovesbusiness.com/massive-drone-strike-blows-up-russian-oil-refinery-with-more-than-50-explosions/

This does something. See the difference?

Massive drone strike blows up Russian oil refinery with ‘more than 50 explosions’
written by Mark Channer, Political Journalist 24th Jan 25 11:46 am
Ukraine has launched a massive drone strike at the Russian, Ryazan oil refinery and at the Ryazan thermal power plant overnight.

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The oil refinery is one of Russia’s largest which produces 17 million metric tonnes of oil per annum, and in the devastating strike three oil depots were blown up, the Kyiv Independent reports. Thus, as a result of the strikes, fires broke out at the production facilities of the Ryazan Oil Refinery and at the Ryazan oil pumping station,”

[BADecker]

We are very close to Trump Putin talks. Putin is waiting for this to happen so that he can know which way to turn. If there was no potential advantage to Trump Putin talks for a fact, Ukraine would be destroyed by Oreshniks already easily.

A lifting of the sanctions by the US would benefit both nations greatly. Use of Oreshniks would destroy the possibilities for lifting the sanctions at this stage of the game.

Ukraine is getting a sort of funding simply by Putin waiting for the talks. If Putin wanted, he would simply wipe out Ukraine... probably with Oresjniks. Russia is easily 10 times stronger than Ukraine.

Who knows what Putin will do in response to the Recent Ukraine attacks? Anybody who answers 'nothing', hasn't looked at what Putin did he last two times.

Where do you really stand, paxmao? You seem to be saying that Oreshniks are simply ICBM's. Don't you realize that Russia has hundreds of them? If Russia has to weaken itself by using some of them on Ukraine, it might simply use them on Britain first. You don't seem to understand the thread that your peace is hanging on.

[Branko]

Perhaps you can give some details on how that repurposing works? (hint: you can't, you do not have a clue of what you are talking about).

Meanwhile, this relatively simple technology called UAV AKA "drone" is actually doing something that does make an impact. 5% of the refining capacity of Ruzzia has now been taken in one single strike.

This is what happens when you say you have the best air defence, but you don't.

https://londonlovesbusiness.com/massive-drone-strike-blows-up-russian-oil-refinery-with-more-than-50-explosions/

This does something. See the difference?

Massive drone strike blows up Russian oil refinery with ‘more than 50 explosions’
written by Mark Channer, Political Journalist 24th Jan 25 11:46 am
Ukraine has launched a massive drone strike at the Russian, Ryazan oil refinery and at the Ryazan thermal power plant overnight.

[...]

The oil refinery is one of Russia’s largest which produces 17 million metric tonnes of oil per annum, and in the devastating strike three oil depots were blown up, the Kyiv Independent reports. Thus, as a result of the strikes, fires broke out at the production facilities of the Ryazan Oil Refinery and at the Ryazan oil pumping station,”

All that is equal to mosquito bites...just go and read how much strategic bombing UK/USA had to do in WW2 to
put a dent into German oil supply. Its just propaganda, and you're falling for it (unless you're creator)

[BADecker]

^^^ Besides, gotta do it at night just to see it.

Maybe somebody's burn barrel in his backyard. 

[paxmao]

Perhaps you can give some details on how that repurposing works? (hint: you can't, you do not have a clue of what you are talking about).

Meanwhile, this relatively simple technology called UAV AKA "drone" is actually doing something that does make an impact. 5% of the refining capacity of Ruzzia has now been taken in one single strike.

This is what happens when you say you have the best air defence, but you don't.

https://londonlovesbusiness.com/massive-drone-strike-blows-up-russian-oil-refinery-with-more-than-50-explosions/

This does something. See the difference?

Massive drone strike blows up Russian oil refinery with ‘more than 50 explosions’
written by Mark Channer, Political Journalist 24th Jan 25 11:46 am
Ukraine has launched a massive drone strike at the Russian, Ryazan oil refinery and at the Ryazan thermal power plant overnight.

[...]

The oil refinery is one of Russia’s largest which produces 17 million metric tonnes of oil per annum, and in the devastating strike three oil depots were blown up, the Kyiv Independent reports. Thus, as a result of the strikes, fires broke out at the production facilities of the Ryazan Oil Refinery and at the Ryazan oil pumping station,”

All that is equal to mosquito bites...just go and read how much strategic bombing UK/USA had to do in WW2 to
put a dent into German oil supply. Its just propaganda, and you're falling for it (unless you're creator)

Branko, it is not a mosquito bite, this is 5% of Ruzzian capacity, but it is not only about oil. A refinery takes several years to build, requires parts with lead times of years, requires technologies an parts under sanctions. This one here is gone for good for a decade. The associated CAPEX loss is in the billions. Even a modest refinery - and the one in the picture is a huge one - costs several billions of USD.

It is quite easy to understand that this is happening several times a week now, you do not need to bomb a lot, you need to bomb the expensive stuff.

[LTU_btc]

Branko, it is not a mosquito bite, this is 5% of Ruzzian capacity, but it is not only about oil. A refinery takes several years to build, requires parts with lead times of years, requires technologies an parts under sanctions. This one here is gone for good for a decade. The associated CAPEX loss is in the billions. Even a modest refinery - and the one in the picture is a huge one - costs several billions of USD.

It is quite easy to understand that this is happening several times a week now, you do not need to bomb a lot, you need to bomb the expensive stuff.

If they hit refinery, that significant thing, especially if it's continuous proccess. You mentioned reasons why it's painful for Russia. Though, quite often I see that they hit not refinery but just oil storage. This is can be called as mosquito bit, but still, it's millions of $.

[BADecker]

We are very close to Trump Putin talks. Putin is waiting for this to happen so that he can know which way to turn. If there was no potential advantage to Trump Putin talks for a fact, Ukraine would be destroyed by Oreshniks already easily.

A lifting of the sanctions by the US would benefit both nations greatly. Use of Oreshniks would destroy the possibilities for lifting the sanctions at this stage of the game.

Ukraine is getting a sort of funding simply by Putin waiting for the talks. If Putin wanted, he would simply wipe out Ukraine... probably with Oresjniks. Russia is easily 10 times stronger than Ukraine.

Who knows what Putin will do in response to the Recent Ukraine attacks? Anybody who answers 'nothing', hasn't looked at what Putin did he last two times.

Where do you really stand, paxmao? You seem to be saying that Oreshniks are simply ICBM's. Don't you realize that Russia has hundreds of them? If Russia has to weaken itself by using some of them on Ukraine, it might simply use them on Britain first. You don't seem to understand the thread that your peace is hanging on.

Probably Trump is stalling the Putin talks, so that Russia becomes impatient and takes out Britain. That would be another thorn out of Trump's side. Besides, it might give him the excuse to attack Russia... one he wouldn't use right away. One he would use to corner NATO nations (essentially all of Europe) into bowing to him first. Then he gets Greenland without any trouble at all.

As an aside... Russian Forces Officially Seize Last Strategic City In Southern Donbas Region


Russian Casualties and the Russian Economy -- A Memo for President Donald Trump


https://ronpaulinstitute.org/russian-casualties-and-the-russian-economy-a-memo-for-president-donald-trump/
If you hope to realize your goal of opening negotiations with President Vladimir Putin to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, you must be equipped with the best information available.

You have been briefed that Russia has suffered devastating losses — as many as 800,000 casualties — and that Russia's economy is weak and fragile. Data from open sources paint a diametrically opposite picture.

One of the best open sources for information about Russian casualties is Mediazona:

Mediazona (Russian: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?) is a Russian independent media outlet focused on Anti-Putinist opposition that was founded by Maria Alyokhina and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, who are also co-founders of the protest group and band Pussy Riot. The outlet's editor-in-chief is Russian political journalist Sergey Smirnov.

Mediazona is an independent organization that is ideologically opposed to Vladimir Putin. It is the antithesis of a Russian propaganda outlet. Mediazona employs a multi-faceted methodology to track Russian casualties in the Ukraine war, which includes:

Open-source intelligence gathering: They monitor publicly available information from news agencies, social media platforms, official military reports, and local residents' groups.
Collaboration: Mediazona works closely with the BBC Russian Service to track and verify casualty reports.

Comprehensive database: They maintain a regularly updated casualty list, which currently contains over 44,600 names of Russian soldiers killed in action.
Probate Registry analysis: Mediazona combines their casualty list with data from the Probate Registry database to estimate the true mortality rate among Russian men.
Statistical modeling: They use a method that accounts for all excess male mortality up to age 50, considering factors such as social composition, delays in notary consultations, and death registration delays.
Cross-referencing: The team verifies information by cross-checking multiple sources and databases.
To see the real Russian manpower losses stats, click here.

[paxmao]

Branko, it is not a mosquito bite, this is 5% of Ruzzian capacity, but it is not only about oil. A refinery takes several years to build, requires parts with lead times of years, requires technologies an parts under sanctions. This one here is gone for good for a decade. The associated CAPEX loss is in the billions. Even a modest refinery - and the one in the picture is a huge one - costs several billions of USD.

It is quite easy to understand that this is happening several times a week now, you do not need to bomb a lot, you need to bomb the expensive stuff.

If they hit refinery, that significant thing, especially if it's continuous proccess. You mentioned reasons why it's painful for Russia. Though, quite often I see that they hit not refinery but just oil storage. This is can be called as mosquito bit, but still, it's millions of $.

The key point here is that there is economic pain and it happens everyday. It destroys assets that are very expensive, difficult to replace and cause long term economic damage to Ruzzia.

Why would this be important? Branko says that it does not affect the oil supplies, mosquito bites... etc. They are not, these are billions burning, but avobe all this is about Ruzzia understanding they do have something to loose.

Just put yourself into Putin's head for a moment (and try not to puke): I do not mind much about the number of soldiers I need to send there, I do not care if I run off all the old equipment, I do not care if I have to sell military secrets to North Korea to have even more soldiers and equipment... That I do not care about, so I could potentially continue the war foerever.

However, if every day Ruzzia is suffering billions in lost equipment, if this is going to cause permanent damage to the economy and it may potentially start creating oposition among the plutocrats, then I do have a reason to start thinking about closing this whole thing in the less painful way possible.

That is why Trump is saying that peace if a favour to Ruzzia.

[tvbcof]

In today's clown-world, the unit (155th) that was trained in France and implemented the time-honored French method of fighting (i.e., run away en-mass as soon as they hit the ground) are now being sent to the front line in handcuffs.  Lol!   As they say, you just cannot make this stuff up!

  https://rumble.com/v6erb7v-cold-war-ii-the-russians-enter-dachne-handcuffs-instead-of-freedom-military.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
 

[BADecker]

In today's clown-world, the unit (155th) that was trained in France and implemented the time-honored French method of fighting (i.e., run away en-mass as soon as they hit the ground) are now being sent to the front line in handcuffs.  Lol!   As they say, you just cannot make this stuff up!

  https://rumble.com/v6erb7v-cold-war-ii-the-russians-enter-dachne-handcuffs-instead-of-freedom-military.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
 

He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

[paxmao]

In today's clown-world, the unit (155th) that was trained in France and implemented the time-honored French method of fighting (i.e., run away en-mass as soon as they hit the ground) are now being sent to the front line in handcuffs. Â Lol! Â Â As they say, you just cannot make this stuff up!

 Â https://rumble.com/v6erb7v-cold-war-ii-the-russians-enter-dachne-handcuffs-instead-of-freedom-military.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
 

He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

dumBAss, if you do not have Ruzzian citizenship I think that it fits you perfectly. You can cite the Bible like a Christian Integrist but are obviously capable of thinking as the Chinese socipath you really are in the same day.

You are going to have to hope that it happens again, else... you can solve the following problem: how many decades does it take for a slimy snail to crawl 600,000 square kilometers.

This has been commented in Ukraine, a new unit was formed entirely of new recruits and obviously they lacked cohesion and got scared quite rapidly, as it was to be expected. That is war, lessons are learned and next time the new recruits will be mixed or trained with veterans or go first on lower intensity missions.

I have recently seen a video of Ruzzian soldiers being driven to the front in shackles. I wonder why?

Meanwhile, this month has been the worst ever in the war for the Ruzzian infrastructure, There has been a multi-million loss nearly every other day of the month on the infrastructure that Ruzzia requires to sustain its economy.

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/ukraines-near-daily-strikes-on-russian-military-targets-is-a-major-shift-in-drone-and-missile-development-5398

While Ruzzia is not only fighting the last war, but also negotiating the last war - crazily insisting in limiting Ukrainian troops when most of their losses come from the drones and it would be very easy to create an army, call it the Civilian Security Police and have them in reserve, keep the tanks in Poland,...

In the end the US plan is working quite well. Some sources state that Ruzzia has lost nearly 10.000 vehicles, the oil infrastructure will require billions in investment, they still have Putin (which they did not want to change), Ukraine is alive and ready for a proper reconstruction and becoming a land of opportunity and growth.

The loosers, as of today, the Ukranian that died, the Ruzzians that died, Putin and BTW Germany and Central Europe in economy - but at the same time is safer since Ruzzia has used up plenty of irreplaceable material.

The US is also happy to see that if they need (or when) go to war with China over Taiwan, they will not have 10000 ruzzian tanks appearing here and there.

[FillersENG]

In today's clown-world, the unit (155th) that was trained in France and implemented the time-honored French method of fighting (i.e., run away en-mass as soon as they hit the ground) are now being sent to the front line in handcuffs. Â Lol! Â Â As they say, you just cannot make this stuff up!

 Â https://rumble.com/v6erb7v-cold-war-ii-the-russians-enter-dachne-handcuffs-instead-of-freedom-military.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
 

He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

dumBAss, if you do not have Ruzzian citizenship I think that it fits you perfectly. You can cite the Bible like a Christian Integrist but are obviously capable of thinking as the Chinese socipath you really are in the same day.

You are going to have to hope that it happens again, else... you can solve the following problem: how many decades does it take for a slimy snail to crawl 600,000 square kilometers.

This has been commented in Ukraine, a new unit was formed entirely of new recruits and obviously they lacked cohesion and got scared quite rapidly, as it was to be expected. That is war, lessons are learned and next time the new recruits will be mixed or trained with veterans or go first on lower intensity missions.

I have recently seen a video of Ruzzian soldiers being driven to the front in shackles. I wonder why?

Meanwhile, this month has been the worst ever in the war for the Ruzzian infrastructure, There has been a multi-million loss nearly every other day of the month on the infrastructure that Ruzzia requires to sustain its economy.

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/ukraines-near-daily-strikes-on-russian-military-targets-is-a-major-shift-in-drone-and-missile-development-5398

While Ruzzia is not only fighting the last war, but also negotiating the last war - crazily insisting in limiting Ukrainian troops when most of their losses come from the drones and it would be very easy to create an army, call it the Civilian Security Police and have them in reserve, keep the tanks in Poland,...

In the end the US plan is working quite well. Some sources state that Ruzzia has lost nearly 10.000 vehicles, the oil infrastructure will require billions in investment, they still have Putin (which they did not want to change), Ukraine is alive and ready for a proper reconstruction and becoming a land of opportunity and growth.

The loosers, as of today, the Ukranian that died, the Ruzzians that died, Putin and BTW Germany and Central Europe in economy - but at the same time is safer since Ruzzia has used up plenty of irreplaceable material.

The US is also happy to see that if they need (or when) go to war with China over Taiwan, they will not have 10000 ruzzian tanks appearing here and there.

You're right. The motivation of the Russian military is very low, they fight only for the sake of money.

[tvbcof]

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He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

True.  The Little Green Goblin can 're-hypothecate' his troops and continue his grift until all of his sponsors are broke (or run out of office although as Romania shows us, it isn't going to happen by voting.)  Much of Ukraine is now owned by Western financial kinkpins like Larry Fink and they have extensive experience with rehypothecation.

Sadly for Fink, the cherry on top of his grift - the creme de la creme - was going to be that 'Ukraine' was to receive multi-trillion dollars in 'reconstruction' funds to rebuild his newly purchased property at Western taxpayer expense.  Now nobody has much interest in doing so except a handful of WEF 'young global leader' puppets playing prime minister roles in the Collective West countries.  And their ranks are rapidly shrinking as people finally wake up to their games.

[nutildah]

Sounds like Trump is giving Putin an option to end the war in a way which Russia can still hold their head high and proclaim victory. Good, its been too long already. We need peace and more stability if we want our bitcoin and crypto bags to really fly high.

[paxmao]

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He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

True. Â The Little Green Goblin can 're-hypothecate' his troops and continue his grift until all of his sponsors are broke (or run out of office although as Romania shows us, it isn't going to happen by voting.) Â Much of Ukraine is now owned by Western financial kinkpins like Larry Fink and they have extensive experience with rehypothecation.

Sadly for Fink, the cherry on top of his grift - the creme de la creme - was going to be that 'Ukraine' was to receive multi-trillion dollars in 'reconstruction' funds to rebuild his newly purchased property at Western taxpayer expense. Â Now nobody has much interest in doing so except a handful of WEF 'young global leader' puppets playing prime minister roles in the Collective West countries. Â And their ranks are rapidly shrinking as people finally wake up to their games.

Investing is not giving away. Europe and the US are always looking for the right place to invest. It is usually a win-win, Ukraine gets proper development, has higher level of independence and get to actually vote, employment gets much much better and obviously "the West" as you call some countries have the expectations of a return.

All this is very basic, but we are all going to see the difference... 100 meters from where Ukraine ends, there will lay a devastated unpopulated land where Ruzzia will do... nothing, they first have to re-build their own oil industry for decades to come.

[DaRude]

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He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

True. Â The Little Green Goblin can 're-hypothecate' his troops and continue his grift until all of his sponsors are broke (or run out of office although as Romania shows us, it isn't going to happen by voting.) Â Much of Ukraine is now owned by Western financial kinkpins like Larry Fink and they have extensive experience with rehypothecation.

Sadly for Fink, the cherry on top of his grift - the creme de la creme - was going to be that 'Ukraine' was to receive multi-trillion dollars in 'reconstruction' funds to rebuild his newly purchased property at Western taxpayer expense. Â Now nobody has much interest in doing so except a handful of WEF 'young global leader' puppets playing prime minister roles in the Collective West countries. Â And their ranks are rapidly shrinking as people finally wake up to their games.

Investing is not giving away. Europe and the US are always looking for the right place to invest. It is usually a win-win, Ukraine gets proper development, has higher level of independence and get to actually vote, employment gets much much better and obviously "the West" as you call some countries have the expectations of a return.

All this is very basic, but we are all going to see the difference... 100 meters from where Ukraine ends, there will lay a devastated unpopulated land where Ruzzia will do... nothing, they first have to re-build their own oil industry for decades to come.

Ah yes, because desperate poor countries selling the only thing they have left, the rights to their resources to multinational corporations, never get exploited. That's why European/US investments in African resources worked so great for Africans? Wondering if there were people convincing Africans how selling their rights to their resources was somehow a win-win for Africa too. Also, then why is EU/US is so against Chinas belt and road initiative? You funny, as usual

[paxmao]

It seems that what the west is no willing to do in full, Ukraine is managing to do on its own. "Sanctions" have now been applied by effect of a few drones in the port of Ust-Luga, not far from the Letonian border. The port has suspended all operations with gas and oil.

Also, and it is not longer news but it is there... another Lukoil refinery hit.

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He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

True. Â The Little Green Goblin can 're-hypothecate' his troops and continue his grift until all of his sponsors are broke (or run out of office although as Romania shows us, it isn't going to happen by voting.) Â Much of Ukraine is now owned by Western financial kinkpins like Larry Fink and they have extensive experience with rehypothecation.

Sadly for Fink, the cherry on top of his grift - the creme de la creme - was going to be that 'Ukraine' was to receive multi-trillion dollars in 'reconstruction' funds to rebuild his newly purchased property at Western taxpayer expense. Â Now nobody has much interest in doing so except a handful of WEF 'young global leader' puppets playing prime minister roles in the Collective West countries. Â And their ranks are rapidly shrinking as people finally wake up to their games.

Investing is not giving away. Europe and the US are always looking for the right place to invest. It is usually a win-win, Ukraine gets proper development, has higher level of independence and get to actually vote, employment gets much much better and obviously "the West" as you call some countries have the expectations of a return.

All this is very basic, but we are all going to see the difference... 100 meters from where Ukraine ends, there will lay a devastated unpopulated land where Ruzzia will do... nothing, they first have to re-build their own oil industry for decades to come.

Ah yes, because desperate poor countries selling the only thing they have left, the rights to their resources to multinational corporations, never get exploited. That's why European/US investments in African resources worked so great for Africans? Wondering if there were people convincing Africans how selling their rights to their resources was somehow a win-win for Africa too. Also, then why is EU/US is so against Chinas belt and road initiative? You funny, as usual

Shall we talk about how the Ruzzian multinationals and the Ruzzian pressence in Africa is affecting the countries that DID NOT choose to have them there?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2024)757654

Russia's expanding influence in Africa also plays out through non official channels, such as the use of private military companies (such as the Wagner Group) and information manipulation campaigns. Russia has concluded military cooperation agreements with 43 African countries, and is a major, though declining, arms supplier to Africa. This cooperation is not linked to democratic pledges, and in multiple African countries hit by coups, Russia has continued or strengthened its military cooperation.

So... yeah... the Western capitalism so bad, just takes and does not give... All those multinationals are so terrible but...



How is it that growth arrives when Ruzzia leaves?

[BADecker]

It seems that what the west is no willing to do in full, Ukraine is managing to do on its own. "Sanctions" have now been applied by effect of a few drones in the port of Ust-Luga, not far from the Letonian border. The port has suspended all operations with gas and oil.

Also, and it is not longer news but it is there... another Lukoil refinery hit.

...
He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

The trick is fighting or running in shackles. If they ain't gonna fight, why waste the upkeep on them. Execute them. You can always sell their remains and make good money off them... as the Zelensky team seems to be doing long time now.

True. Â The Little Green Goblin can 're-hypothecate' his troops and continue his grift until all of his sponsors are broke (or run out of office although as Romania shows us, it isn't going to happen by voting.) Â Much of Ukraine is now owned by Western financial kinkpins like Larry Fink and they have extensive experience with rehypothecation.

Sadly for Fink, the cherry on top of his grift - the creme de la creme - was going to be that 'Ukraine' was to receive multi-trillion dollars in 'reconstruction' funds to rebuild his newly purchased property at Western taxpayer expense. Â Now nobody has much interest in doing so except a handful of WEF 'young global leader' puppets playing prime minister roles in the Collective West countries. Â And their ranks are rapidly shrinking as people finally wake up to their games.

Investing is not giving away. Europe and the US are always looking for the right place to invest. It is usually a win-win, Ukraine gets proper development, has higher level of independence and get to actually vote, employment gets much much better and obviously "the West" as you call some countries have the expectations of a return.

All this is very basic, but we are all going to see the difference... 100 meters from where Ukraine ends, there will lay a devastated unpopulated land where Ruzzia will do... nothing, they first have to re-build their own oil industry for decades to come.

Ah yes, because desperate poor countries selling the only thing they have left, the rights to their resources to multinational corporations, never get exploited. That's why European/US investments in African resources worked so great for Africans? Wondering if there were people convincing Africans how selling their rights to their resources was somehow a win-win for Africa too. Also, then why is EU/US is so against Chinas belt and road initiative? You funny, as usual

Shall we talk about how the Ruzzian multinationals and the Ruzzian pressence in Africa is affecting the countries that DID NOT choose to have them there?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2024)757654

Russia's expanding influence in Africa also plays out through non official channels, such as the use of private military companies (such as the Wagner Group) and information manipulation campaigns. Russia has concluded military cooperation agreements with 43 African countries, and is a major, though declining, arms supplier to Africa. This cooperation is not linked to democratic pledges, and in multiple African countries hit by coups, Russia has continued or strengthened its military cooperation.

So... yeah... the Western capitalism so bad, just takes and does not give... All those multinationals are so terrible but...



How is it that growth arrives when Ruzzia leaves?

Ukraine isn't doing war on their own. Big business, especially big banking, is financing them where the US and NATO stopped. Big banking gets its money from screwing the people, especially the Western people, before they give it to Ukraine. Let the people make Bitcoin work for them and get rid of the banking.

How is it that growth arrives when Russia leaves? Two ways:
1. Good chart makers;
2. Russia gave them strength; then left so they could be strong on their own.