Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Complete Disaster💥 Russians Have Broken Through Several Defensive Belts🎖 Military Summary 2024.09.21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvzUl5X8yYA

[paxmao]

There seems to be a clear indication of a new major mobilisation in Ruzzia. I will link just one of the sources, but there are others. You need to feed 1200 to 1400 Ruzzians every day to the meatgrinder to keep the war going, so...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/19/7475805/

The Wall Street Journal reports that the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defence continues to put pressure on Russian leader Vladimir Putin to announce a new wave of mobilisation to bring in additional troops and compensate for the Kremlin's losses on the battlefield in Ukraine.

Ruzzian losses are now reaching 700.000 soldiers, it seem like Putin wants a round number?

Ukraine has hit 2 more extra-large ammunition depots according to several reports, it is likely that others will blow up along the next few nights. Seems Ukraine is achieving some degree of success as Ruzzia does simply not have enough air defence to cover all critical objectives. Sources note that the ammo destroyed is 3 months worth of supplies.

Ruzzia is ready to blow the dams near Belgorod in case Ukraine decides to "Kursk it".

Complete Disaster💥 Russians Have Broken Through Several Defensive Belts🎖 Military Summary 2024.09.21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvzUl5X8yYA

Browse back in Military Summary - well know pro-Ruzzian - according to this guy Ruzzia is breaking through and winning the war every day, Kursk is a "Ruzzian victory".... It is good to listen to the guy if you want (or if you need) to get the "Ruzzian High Sugar" version of the news for any reason.

[damnrancho]

Congratulations to the Ukrainians, they destroyed 2 more warehouses, then more!

[DaRude]

There seems to be a clear indication of a new major mobilisation in Ruzzia. I will link just one of the sources, but there are others. You need to feed 1200 to 1400 Ruzzians every day to the meatgrinder to keep the war going, so...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/19/7475805/

The Wall Street Journal reports that the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defence continues to put pressure on Russian leader Vladimir Putin to announce a new wave of mobilisation to bring in additional troops and compensate for the Kremlin's losses on the battlefield in Ukraine.

Ruzzian losses are now reaching 700.000 soldiers, it seem like Putin wants a round number?

Ukraine has hit 2 more extra-large ammunition depots according to several reports, it is likely that others will blow up along the next few nights. Seems Ukraine is achieving some degree of success as Ruzzia does simply not have enough air defence to cover all critical objectives. Sources note that the ammo destroyed is 3 months worth of supplies.

Ruzzia is ready to blow the dams near Belgorod in case Ukraine decides to "Kursk it".

Complete Disaster💥 Russians Have Broken Through Several Defensive Belts🎖 Military Summary 2024.09.21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvzUl5X8yYA

Browse back in Military Summary - well know pro-Ruzzian - according to this guy Ruzzia is breaking through and winning the war every day, Kursk is a "Ruzzian victory".... It is good to listen to the guy if you want (or if you need) to get the "Ruzzian High Sugar" version of the news for any reason.

In what language "continues to put pressure" translate to "a clear indication of a new major mobilisation in Ruzzia"? Instead of making stuff up, lets take a look at what WSJ actually says

Putin Is Under Pressure to Call Up More Troops for War of Attrition
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Putin dismissed the idea, saying he wanted to use only those who were voluntarily signing military contracts, the person said.
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Now, Ukraine’s continuing incursion into Russia is further straining Russia’s manpower, underscoring chronic problems and leading the country’s military leaders to press for mobilization again, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
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Dmitry Peskov said the recruitment of contract soldiers and volunteers is happening at a rapid pace. “This satisfies the needs of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation,” Peskov said in an email.
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To be sure, Russia has a manpower advantage over Ukraine, which has a population less than one-quarter of the size of its giant neighbor.
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“Russia didn’t take the bait in sending crucial front-line soldiers to Kursk, but given their constraints, they’ve been forced to take troops from Kherson and Zaporizhzhia where they’re less needed,” said Rob Lee, senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, a U.S. foreign-policy think tank.

Troops that have been sent to the Kursk region include units from the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade based in Crimea, the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade and the 56th Airborne Regiment, which had been fighting in Zaporizhzhia, said a report from the Institute for the Study of War, a think tank based in Washington, D.C.
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The Institute for the Study of War said the reshuffling of troops “avoided declaring general mobilization or another round of partial mobilization, both of which would be incredibly unpopular among Russian society.”
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At the meeting with Putin earlier this year, Defense Ministry officials said the president should use his inauguration, and attendant boost in political support, to make the case for a mobilization.
Putin declined to do so, with memories of the unrest that followed the 2022 mobilization still fresh. Protests gripped some of Russia’s biggest cities, recruitment offices were attacked, and border crossings were choked with men fleeing.
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“People want to continue their lives, which for them are peaceful. It’s dangerous for the Kremlin to carry out another partial or full mobilization,” said Andrei Kolesnikov, an independent Russia analyst, based in Moscow.

Summary: Russia did not fall for the Kursk's suicide mission, so lets just pretend like it did, because that's how wars are won on forums?  

Totally objective and neutral interpretation of the article that it's a "clear indication of a new major mobilisation" and not just another cheap propaganda attempt on the ignorant people who cannot read themselves, while totally discrediting whatever has remained of your reputation.

Why not just post maps of Kursk offensive from a US think tank like you were doing before? Oh, i see why...

[paxmao]

^^ Zoom out a bit, you are missing the part in which Ukraine is opening a new sector. Yes as expected Ruzzia sent troops to Kursk, what is yet to decide is if these will get encircled or simply fighting around.

[...]

So, in your view, is there a mobilisation either ongoing or about to be? Because some sources says that there is one, just not announced, going on since at least March, while other sources say that they are about to try recruit 300k more souls to send to the meatgrinder.

Ruzzia has not really stopped the recruiting ever, but it is about to get forcible and bigger I think. Probably there will not be a public announcement, but it will leak.

what do you make of the latest strikes in ammo depots? Some sources claim the size of the explosions registered in seismic sensors far away and are comparable to small-ish nukes.

https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2024C24/

How Russia Is Recruiting for the Long War
Deutsch
Covertly Mobilising Volunteers While Preparing for a New Round of Compulsory Mobilisation

SWP Comment 2024/C 24, 27.06.2024, 8 Seiten
doi:10.18449/2024C24

[...]
Covert mobilisation
In the third recruitment phase – which is ongoing – the Kremlin is focusing on so‑called “covert mobilisation”. This term refers to the continuous recruitment of “volunteers”, who fall into two categories: kontraktniki and fighters from a broad range of volunteer formations. The Kremlin’s calculation is that the potential for dis­content in society is lower under “covert mobilisation” than under a second round of compulsory mobilisation. That is because those who go off to fight are formally cat­egorised as volunteers even if they have been recruited through the exploitation of power imbalances or through the use of deception or coercion.

There have been some accusations around foreign workers signing a contract to work in construction and similar activities that, after arriving in Ruzzia, found out they were now volunteer soldiers. That's how Ruzzia is playing the war -  it requires plenty of meat, quality is not a problem.

[DaRude]

^^ Zoom out a bit, you are missing the part in which Ukraine is opening a new sector. Yes as expected Ruzzia sent troops to Kursk, what is yet to decide is if these will get encircled or simply fighting around.

[...]

So, in your view, is there a mobilisation either ongoing or about to be? Because some sources says that there is one, just not announced, going on since at least March, while other sources say that they are about to try recruit 300k more souls to send to the meatgrinder.

Ruzzia has not really stopped the recruiting ever, but it is about to get forcible and bigger I think. Probably there will not be a public announcement, but it will leak.

what do you make of the latest strikes in ammo depots? Some sources claim the size of the explosions registered in seismic sensors far away and are comparable to small-ish nukes.

https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2024C24/

How Russia Is Recruiting for the Long War
Deutsch
Covertly Mobilising Volunteers While Preparing for a New Round of Compulsory Mobilisation

SWP Comment 2024/C 24, 27.06.2024, 8 Seiten
doi:10.18449/2024C24

[...]
Covert mobilisation
In the third recruitment phase – which is ongoing – the Kremlin is focusing on so‑called “covert mobilisation”. This term refers to the continuous recruitment of “volunteers”, who fall into two categories: kontraktniki and fighters from a broad range of volunteer formations. The Kremlin’s calculation is that the potential for dis­content in society is lower under “covert mobilisation” than under a second round of compulsory mobilisation. That is because those who go off to fight are formally cat­egorised as volunteers even if they have been recruited through the exploitation of power imbalances or through the use of deception or coercion.

There have been some accusations around foreign workers signing a contract to work in construction and similar activities that, after arriving in Ruzzia, found out they were now volunteer soldiers. That's how Ruzzia is playing the war -  it requires plenty of meat, quality is not a problem.

Zoom out to where? Where is that new sector you're talking about? If you're talking about Vesele, that front is actually in the second picture in the lower left box with Novyi Put labeled.

"Because some sources says..."


I can't predict future like you, but there is definitely no forced mobilization of people currently happening in Russia. As the WSJ article you cited said "It’s dangerous for the Kremlin to carry out another partial or full mobilization". 'Not announced mobilization" is just impossible in current situation, we all saw the effects of the last mobilization in Russia, millions of videos, lawsuits, lines to Kazakhstan, sold out tickets out of Russia etc... This was the goal of the Kursk operation, but clearly currently it's not happening, so instead of just admitting that Kursk offensive was a complete failure, we get these amusing comments pretending as if Kursk offensive is working and there's now mobilization in Russia.

recruiting is not forced mobilization, don't act dumb. Just because you might think that aliens are coming doesn't mean you can claim that "there seems to be a clear indication of" aliens in Russia. Even if another partial mobilization will begin in Russia, you and all major media will be covering it within minutes, until then stop spreading propaganda.

I've been hearing that Russia is about to run out of missiles any day now since 2022. The fact that RU could store so many weapons at a single site, even spilling to above ground storage, hints at the scale of Russia's current missile production levels. Sword and shield, now RU will just have to adapt, and decentralize storage more.

"Mobilising Volunteers" they are called contractors and is not forced mobilization by definition! Stop making up stuff, Kursk is a failure and didn't bring mobilization in Russia as was expected.

[Leadersquada]

There seems to be a clear indication of a new major mobilisation in Ruzzia. I will link just one of the sources, but there are others. You need to feed 1200 to 1400 Ruzzians every day to the meatgrinder to keep the war going, so...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/19/7475805/

The Wall Street Journal reports that the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defence continues to put pressure on Russian leader Vladimir Putin to announce a new wave of mobilisation to bring in additional troops and compensate for the Kremlin's losses on the battlefield in Ukraine.

Ruzzian losses are now reaching 700.000 soldiers, it seem like Putin wants a round number?

Ukraine has hit 2 more extra-large ammunition depots according to several reports, it is likely that others will blow up along the next few nights. Seems Ukraine is achieving some degree of success as Ruzzia does simply not have enough air defence to cover all critical objectives. Sources note that the ammo destroyed is 3 months worth of supplies.

Ruzzia is ready to blow the dams near Belgorod in case Ukraine decides to "Kursk it".

Complete Disaster💥 Russians Have Broken Through Several Defensive Belts🎖 Military Summary 2024.09.21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvzUl5X8yYA

Browse back in Military Summary - well know pro-Ruzzian - according to this guy Ruzzia is breaking through and winning the war every day, Kursk is a "Ruzzian victory".... It is good to listen to the guy if you want (or if you need) to get the "Ruzzian High Sugar" version of the news for any reason.

In what language "continues to put pressure" translate to "a clear indication of a new major mobilisation in Ruzzia"? Instead of making stuff up, lets take a look at what WSJ actually says

[Suspicious link removed]j.com/world/russia/putin-troops-pressure-russia-ukraine-war-5f242a1c]
Putin Is Under Pressure to Call Up More Troops for War of Attrition
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Putin dismissed the idea, saying he wanted to use only those who were voluntarily signing military contracts, the person said.
...
Now, Ukraine’s continuing incursion into Russia is further straining Russia’s manpower, underscoring chronic problems and leading the country’s military leaders to press for mobilization again, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
...
Dmitry Peskov said the recruitment of contract soldiers and volunteers is happening at a rapid pace. “This satisfies the needs of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation,” Peskov said in an email.
...
To be sure, Russia has a manpower advantage over Ukraine, which has a population less than one-quarter of the size of its giant neighbor.
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“Russia didn’t take the bait in sending crucial front-line soldiers to Kursk, but given their constraints, they’ve been forced to take troops from Kherson and Zaporizhzhia where they’re less needed,” said Rob Lee, senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, a U.S. foreign-policy think tank.

Troops that have been sent to the Kursk region include units from the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade based in Crimea, the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade and the 56th Airborne Regiment, which had been fighting in Zaporizhzhia, said a report from the Institute for the Study of War, a think tank based in Washington, D.C.
...
The Institute for the Study of War said the reshuffling of troops “avoided declaring general mobilization or another round of partial mobilization, both of which would be incredibly unpopular among Russian society.”
...
At the meeting with Putin earlier this year, Defense Ministry officials said the president should use his inauguration, and attendant boost in political support, to make the case for a mobilization.
Putin declined to do so, with memories of the unrest that followed the 2022 mobilization still fresh. Protests gripped some of Russia’s biggest cities, recruitment offices were attacked, and border crossings were choked with men fleeing.
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“People want to continue their lives, which for them are peaceful. It’s dangerous for the Kremlin to carry out another partial or full mobilization,” said Andrei Kolesnikov, an independent Russia analyst, based in Moscow.

Summary: Russia did not fall for the Kursk's suicide mission, so lets just pretend like it did, because that's how wars are won on forums?  

Totally objective and neutral interpretation of the article that it's a "clear indication of a new major mobilisation" and not just another cheap propaganda attempt on the ignorant people who cannot read themselves, while totally discrediting whatever has remained of your reputation.

Why not just post maps of Kursk offensive from a US think tank like you were doing before? Oh, i see why...

https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/UAF%20Kursk%20Incursion%20August%2020%2C%202024.pnghttps://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/UAF%20Kursk%20Incursion%20September%2021%2C%202024.png
[/quote]

How is it now? Is Ukraine losing territories in the Kursk region?

[be.open]

How is it now? Is Ukraine losing territories in the Kursk region?

It looks like Ukraine is losing Ugledar.

[Spitogatos]

How is it now? Is Ukraine losing territories in the Kursk region?

It looks like Ukraine is losing Ugledar.

I looked at the map, everything is fine, they are coming from the flanks, but the situation is under control.

[paxmao]

This is the aftermath of the Ukrainian attacks a day ago or so. Perhaps 75% of the locations in the depot area seem to have been effectively been blasted. This is a big one.

https://youtu.be/2LmZKYwu_rk

There seems to be some Ukrainian advances in Kursk. I was expecting the opposite, but mappers are saying the opposite: Ruzzia has not advanced in the las 24 hours, while Ukraine was able to take one more settlement.

^^ Zoom out a bit, you are missing the part in which Ukraine is opening a new sector. Yes as expected Ruzzia sent troops to Kursk, what is yet to decide is if these will get encircled or simply fighting around.

[...]

So, in your view, is there a mobilisation either ongoing or about to be? Because some sources says that there is one, just not announced, going on since at least March, while other sources say that they are about to try recruit 300k more souls to send to the meatgrinder.

Ruzzia has not really stopped the recruiting ever, but it is about to get forcible and bigger I think. Probably there will not be a public announcement, but it will leak.

what do you make of the latest strikes in ammo depots? Some sources claim the size of the explosions registered in seismic sensors far away and are comparable to small-ish nukes.

https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2024C24/

How Russia Is Recruiting for the Long War
Deutsch
Covertly Mobilising Volunteers While Preparing for a New Round of Compulsory Mobilisation

SWP Comment 2024/C 24, 27.06.2024, 8 Seiten
doi:10.18449/2024C24

[...]
Covert mobilisation
In the third recruitment phase – which is ongoing – the Kremlin is focusing on so‑called “covert mobilisation”. This term refers to the continuous recruitment of “volunteers”, who fall into two categories: kontraktniki and fighters from a broad range of volunteer formations. The Kremlin’s calculation is that the potential for dis­content in society is lower under “covert mobilisation” than under a second round of compulsory mobilisation. That is because those who go off to fight are formally cat­egorised as volunteers even if they have been recruited through the exploitation of power imbalances or through the use of deception or coercion.

There have been some accusations around foreign workers signing a contract to work in construction and similar activities that, after arriving in Ruzzia, found out they were now volunteer soldiers. That's how Ruzzia is playing the war -  it requires plenty of meat, quality is not a problem.

Zoom out to where? Where is that new sector you're talking about? If you're talking about Vesele, that front is actually in the second picture in the lower left box with Novyi Put labeled.

"Because some sources says..."


]I can't predict future like you, but there is definitely no forced mobilization of people currently happening in Russia. As the WSJ article you cited said "It’s dangerous for the Kremlin to carry out another partial or full mobilization". 'Not announced mobilization" is just impossible in current situation, we all saw the effects of the last mobilization in Russia, millions of videos, lawsuits, lines to Kazakhstan, sold out tickets out of Russia etc... This was the goal of the Kursk operation, but clearly currently it's not happening, so instead of just admitting that Kursk offensive was a complete failure, we get these amusing comments pretending as if Kursk offensive is working and there's now mobilization in Russia.

recruiting is not forced mobilization, don't act dumb. Just because you might think that aliens are coming doesn't mean you can claim that "there seems to be a clear indication of" aliens in Russia. Even if another partial mobilization will begin in Russia, you and all major media will be covering it within minutes, until then stop spreading propaganda.

I've been hearing that Russia is about to run out of missiles any day now since 2022. The fact that RU could store so many weapons at a single site, even spilling to above ground storage, hints at the scale of Russia's current missile production levels. Sword and shield, now RU will just have to adapt, and decentralize storage more.

"Mobilising Volunteers" they are called contractors and is not forced mobilization by definition! Stop making up stuff, Kursk is a failure and didn't bring mobilization in Russia as was expected.

It is actually visible in the small map. Ukraine has taken land East of the Ruzzian positions near Tektino.

But you have predicted the future many times in this thread! For example, you predicted clearly that Ukraine will be in Kursk "just for a few days". Do you not remember? Are you telling me that you did not know what you were talking about?? I guess there must be different people posting under this user... and it seems I am today with the guy that cannot answer without a picture.

If you ask me, the level of losses for Ruzzia is impossible to hold without 30 to 35k more people sent to the frontline per month, so... this is not an exercise of prediction, but rather of analysis.

To the topics of interest: If you send the conscripts to fight in Kursk (and it is undeniable they have, because many were captured and then sent back to the same place by Ruzzia) it is not "voluntary". It is part of the current target of Ruzzia to make up the numbers they want in the army.

Again... you are saying there is no mobilisation in Ruzzia or are you saying there is mobilisation but not forced? What is is then?

[Mariannalik]

They write that there was a breakthrough of the russian army at ugledar, we wish good luck to Ukraine.

[BADecker]

They write that there was a breakthrough of the russian army at ugledar, we wish good luck to Ukraine.

Looks like whatever breakthrough you are talking about was Russian forces breaking through Ukrainian forces... or is that what you meant. As Ukraine throws her manpower away like this, she comes closer to total collapse.


The Russian army is close to victory in the two-year battle for Ugledar


https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/09/24/the-russian-army-is-close-to-victory-in-the-two-year-battle-for-ugledar
The area of the city of Ugledar (DPR), which is still under the control of Kiev, has been the scene of hostilities for two years. The moment has come when the city can come under the control of the Russian army.

Currently, the Russian military continues to advance, covering Ugledar from two sides. They approached Novoukrainka and occupied an area more than 3 km long from the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-3 mine to the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-1 mine.
...

[tvbcof]

They write that there was a breakthrough of the russian army at ugledar, we wish good luck to Ukraine.

Looks like whatever breakthrough you are talking about was Russian forces breaking through Ukrainian forces... or is that what you meant.


The Russian army is close to victory in the two-year battle for Ugledar


https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/09/24/the-russian-army-is-close-to-victory-in-the-two-year-battle-for-ugledar
The area of the city of Ugledar (DPR), which is still under the control of Kiev, has been the scene of hostilities for two years. The moment has come when the city can come under the control of the Russian army.

Currently, the Russian military continues to advance, covering Ugledar from two sides. They approached Novoukrainka and occupied an area more than 3 km long from the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-3 mine to the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-1 mine.
...

They say that Ukraine pulled the good troops out of Ugledar and stuffed it full of toothless territorial defense with instructions to fight to the death.  One can guess that the yanked Zionazis were re-assigned to their customary anti-retreat force duty back in 'more secure defensive positions'.  Zelenski the coke-head just wants to hold Ugledar for a few more days for PR reasons while he is in DC among all his Ziocon friends/tribe-members.

[BADecker]

They write that there was a breakthrough of the russian army at ugledar, we wish good luck to Ukraine.

Looks like whatever breakthrough you are talking about was Russian forces breaking through Ukrainian forces... or is that what you meant.


The Russian army is close to victory in the two-year battle for Ugledar


https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/09/24/the-russian-army-is-close-to-victory-in-the-two-year-battle-for-ugledar
The area of the city of Ugledar (DPR), which is still under the control of Kiev, has been the scene of hostilities for two years. The moment has come when the city can come under the control of the Russian army.

Currently, the Russian military continues to advance, covering Ugledar from two sides. They approached Novoukrainka and occupied an area more than 3 km long from the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-3 mine to the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-1 mine.
...

They say that Ukraine pulled the good troops out of Ugledar and stuffed it full of toothless territorial defense with instructions to fight to the death.  One can guess that the yanked Zionazis were re-assigned to their customary anti-retreat force duty back in 'more secure defensive positions'.  Zelenski the coke-head just wants to hold Ugledar for a few more days for PR reasons while he is in DC among all his Ziocon friends/tribe-members.

Well, at least this 2.5-year thorn in Russia's side will be done with in a few days.

[tvbcof]

They say that Ukraine pulled the good troops out of Ugledar and stuffed it full of toothless territorial defense with instructions to fight to the death.  One can guess that the yanked Zionazis were re-assigned to their customary anti-retreat force duty back in 'more secure defensive positions'.  Zelenski the coke-head just wants to hold Ugledar for a few more days for PR reasons while he is in DC among all his Ziocon friends/tribe-members.

Well, at least this 2.5-year thorn in Russia's side will be done with in a few days.

True that.  I have to admit that this was one of the battles where the Ukrainians genuinely impressed me, and I'm guessing a fair number of Russians as well.  Kreminia forest and South of that was another.  Marienka as well.  Now that I think of it, they faced the Chechens in each of these, and genuinely won.  There were other places where Ukraine fought well enough, but for stupid PR things with no value, no hope, and no military significance.   Krinky comes to mind.

[BADecker]

They say that Ukraine pulled the good troops out of Ugledar and stuffed it full of toothless territorial defense with instructions to fight to the death.  One can guess that the yanked Zionazis were re-assigned to their customary anti-retreat force duty back in 'more secure defensive positions'.  Zelenski the coke-head just wants to hold Ugledar for a few more days for PR reasons while he is in DC among all his Ziocon friends/tribe-members.

Well, at least this 2.5-year thorn in Russia's side will be done with in a few days.

True that.  I have to admit that this was one of the battles where the Ukrainians genuinely impressed me, and I'm guessing a fair number of Russians as well.  Kreminia forest and South of that was another.  Marienka as well.  Now that I think of it, they faced the Chechens in each of these, and genuinely won.  There were other places where Ukraine fought well enough, but for stupid PR things with no value, no hope, and no military significance.   Krinky comes to mind.

But now it's the Ukrainian kids. The old fighters, if they lose their lives, well, they were old. But the boys and girls who are dying for this ridiculous cause... its a tragic shame. And all because some super-rich bankers want to conquer and exploit Russian and Siberian lands.

[Branko]

Why not just post maps of Kursk offensive from a US think tank like you were doing before? Oh, i see why...

How is it now? Is Ukraine losing territories in the Kursk region?
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Using your maps, yes, it is losing territory there

[paxmao]

Using your maps, yes, it is losing territory there

It is loosing territory (which was under some degree of control, but there is a push west of that pressing the flank and rear of the Ruzzians. It is a classic defensive situation for Ukraine, but it is a risk of encirclement for the Ruzzian troops involved. This map is usually acceptably correct, but will not tell you about the positional war happening. Firstly it is very fluid and secondly, Ukraine is not divulging information.

In any case, Ruzzia eventually had to diver troops, but it is also true that they did not stop the vector trying to encircle Vuhledar. Ruzzia has tried direct attacks during the last couple of years and finally decided that they may have a chance going around it. It may happen that they take it.

Still, Kursk was beneficial for Ukraine for many reasons (e.g. getting PoWs exchanged) and there may be still surprises in that front. For now, the troops diverted from the Volgorod sector have allowed Ukraine some advances there.

[BADecker]

^^^ You are so silly. If Russia loses a little territory because it is to their strategic advantage in a particular situation, all you need to do is look at the Black Sea Corridor they took from Ukraine without Ukraine being able to do anything  at all to stop them.

Russia is simply playing, a bit, regarding what they can do when they decide they have really had enough of Ukraine's nonsense.


Key Ukrainian Stronghold About To Fall To Russia As Zelensky Touts 'Victory Plan' In D.C.


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/key-ukrainian-stronghold-about-fall-russia-zelensky-touts-victory-plan-dc
He said in an ABC News interview published Tuesday, "I think that we are closer to peace than we think." But he caveated this by saying this will only be assured if Ukraine comes from a "strong position" with the help of Western backers.

He described his so-called victory plan as not being focused on seeking to negotiate with Russia, but rather it is "a bridge to a diplomatic way out, to stop the war."

"We just have to be very strong, very strong," Zelensky said, and this is largely dependent on the "quick decisions". He has also of late said that "bold" decisions must be made by Washington, in reference to the request for NATO to greenlight long-range missiles strikes on Russia.

"Everybody's looking up to [Biden], and we need this to defend ourselves," he told ABC, in an obvious effort to increase pressure on a somewhat hesitant White House. Ukraine also wants a firm path to NATO membership.

He further said his plan is about "the strengthening of Ukraine, Ukrainian army and Ukrainian people. Only in the strong position we can push [Russian President Vladimir] Putin to stop the war - diplomatic way." He emphasized: "That is why we are asking our friend."

Despite this optimism about Ukraine's battlefield chances from Zelensky, Reuters on Tuesday has more bad news for Kiev, centering on rapid gains in Donetsk as another key town is about to fall.
...

[be.open]

They write that there was a breakthrough of the russian army at ugledar, we wish good luck to Ukraine.

Looks like whatever breakthrough you are talking about was Russian forces breaking through Ukrainian forces... or is that what you meant.


The Russian army is close to victory in the two-year battle for Ugledar


https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/09/24/the-russian-army-is-close-to-victory-in-the-two-year-battle-for-ugledar
The area of the city of Ugledar (DPR), which is still under the control of Kiev, has been the scene of hostilities for two years. The moment has come when the city can come under the control of the Russian army.

Currently, the Russian military continues to advance, covering Ugledar from two sides. They approached Novoukrainka and occupied an area more than 3 km long from the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-3 mine to the Yuzhnodonbasskaya-1 mine.
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They say that Ukraine pulled the good troops out of Ugledar and stuffed it full of toothless territorial defense with instructions to fight to the death.  One can guess that the yanked Zionazis were re-assigned to their customary anti-retreat force duty back in 'more secure defensive positions'.  Zelenski the coke-head just wants to hold Ugledar for a few more days for PR reasons while he is in DC among all his Ziocon friends/tribe-members.

They say the 72nd Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was waiting for an order to withdraw from Ugledar, but it never came. I think Zelensky decided to sacrifice it to look better in Washington.