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September 15, 2024, 11:04:31 AM
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Well, you are kinda right. When you are ruler of the world like Putin is, there isn't much more to want.

Peace is the reason Russia went into Ukraine in the first place. Ukraine had been messing with Russia since at least 2014. Russia finally stopped it in 2022. Peace at last now that Ukraine has finally used up all its troops.
[...]

Peace is the reason why Ruzzia sent 250 thousand troops with tanks, aviation, anti-air and all the required means to fight into a foreign country? You can repeat the lie over and over, but it remains a visible lie. Should Putin be about peace, he has all the tools required to create that peace right here and right now.

But alas, as usual, the explanation is far simpler: Putin wants more territory, more power and if possible rebuild the USSR under Moscow's rule. Simply think that this is his objective and you will see that all his actions make sense. Think he wants peace and you will see all his actions do not make sense.

I know, I know... you are not about logic and trying to be logic is beyond your capabilities. Ask a friend to do it for you.

BTW BA, I think most of this newbies writing here are probably AI generated content, but sure, feel free to use them to serve your conspiracies.

When you have a joker country killing people and destroying property on your borders like Ukraine was doing to Russia for a couple of decades, finally you get fed up, and do what it takes to stop it. Even sending in 250,000 troops and loads of armament... simply to enforce peace that wouldn't come other ways.

You can see this all over the Internet, but all you want to hear is how innocent your little Ukraine baby is.

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September 15, 2024, 01:56:31 PM
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Still alive, he he, still killing invaders in astronomic numbers.

.........

We doing both. Destroying facilities with long range drones and killing russian units on battlefield.
Our company kills in average 10 orcs and wound 10 more. So like 20 orcs in a day in average. Sometimes more (when they trying to assault) sometimes less.

Still alive, if someone here still remember me  Smiley

A lot of stories, but very few time to write them here.
And now, because of a lot of green (foliage, tall grass) it's a little bit complicated to destroy russian assault teams, but doing our best. Killed and wounded few dozens of russians with an fpv

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September 15, 2024, 02:38:03 PM
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^^^ Give a monkey a typewriter, and he will certainly type a word sometime. So, you're still alive. Bravo!

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Still alive, he he, still killing invaders in astronomic numbers.

.........

We doing both. Destroying facilities with long range drones and killing russian units on battlefield.
Our company kills in average 10 orcs and wound 10 more. So like 20 orcs in a day in average. Sometimes more (when they trying to assault) sometimes less.

Still alive, if someone here still remember me  Smiley

A lot of stories, but very few time to write them here.
And now, because of a lot of green (foliage, tall grass) it's a little bit complicated to destroy russian assault teams, but doing our best. Killed and wounded few dozens of russians with an fpv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtjBqJ4NxA


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Last edit: September 15, 2024, 10:07:19 PM by BADecker
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Only Boots on the Ground reports from viewers...My friend from Russia called me. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGGfyXvGQ7o.


Americans Can't Hide From Nuclear War, Moscow Warns As West Mulls Escalation



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/americans-cant-hide-nuclear-war-moscow-warns-west-mulls-escalation#google_vignette
Both the UK and Canada are on board, we reported earlier, and British Prime Minister Ken Starmer is visiting Washington where he's directly lobbying Biden to jump on board and grant Zelensky's urgent request to lift all restrictions on Western weaponry.

However, The New York Times suggests that saner minds are prevailing at this point. "President Biden's deliberations with Prime Minister Keir Starmer of Britain about whether to allow Ukraine to attack Russia with long-range Western weapons were fresh evidence that the president remains deeply fearful of setting off a dangerous, wider conflict," the publication writes.

Let's hope this is the case, given this is arguably the most dangerous moment and decision-point of the war to date. Pentagon leadership has recently stressed that granting the permission for long-range strikes will do little strategically to change the battlefield, where Russian momentum has continually gained in eastern Ukraine.

Russian Ambassador to the US Anatoly Antonov on Friday added to prior Kremlin warnings, telling Rossiya 24 channel that he fears American leadership and the people are under "illusion".

He said they seem to think that "if there is a conflict, it will not spread to the territory of the United States of America."

Antonov continued by stressing that Americans can't hide from nuclear war if this unthinkable happens. "I am constantly trying to convey to them one thesis that the Americans will not be able to sit it out behind the waters of this ocean. This war will affect everyone, so we constantly say – do not play with this rhetoric," Antonov stated according to state media translation.
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September 15, 2024, 10:41:34 PM
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Well, you are kinda right. When you are ruler of the world like Putin is, there isn't much more to want.

Peace is the reason Russia went into Ukraine in the first place. Ukraine had been messing with Russia since at least 2014. Russia finally stopped it in 2022. Peace at last now that Ukraine has finally used up all its troops.
[...]

Peace is the reason why Ruzzia sent 250 thousand troops with tanks, aviation, anti-air and all the required means to fight into a foreign country? You can repeat the lie over and over, but it remains a visible lie. Should Putin be about peace, he has all the tools required to create that peace right here and right now.

But alas, as usual, the explanation is far simpler: Putin wants more territory, more power and if possible rebuild the USSR under Moscow's rule. Simply think that this is his objective and you will see that all his actions make sense. Think he wants peace and you will see all his actions do not make sense.

I know, I know... you are not about logic and trying to be logic is beyond your capabilities. Ask a friend to do it for you.

BTW BA, I think most of this newbies writing here are probably AI generated content, but sure, feel free to use them to serve your conspiracies.

When you have a joker country killing people and destroying property on your borders like Ukraine was doing to Russia for a couple of decades,[...]

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That is a false claim.
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September 15, 2024, 11:37:42 PM
Last edit: September 15, 2024, 11:55:53 PM by BADecker
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When you have a joker country killing people and destroying property on your borders like Ukraine was doing to Russia for a couple of decades,[...]

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That is a false claim.

Like you, I wasn't there either. But if Putin offered 250 acres of Ukraine farmland as a homestead, I just might take him up on it, and join the Russian military for that land. Odds are he won't make that offer. He isn't interested in conquering Ukraine. Only keeping Nato out. And the Black Sea Corridor.


Double Standards Reveal the True Western Strategy



https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/double-standards-reveal-the-true-western-strategy/
The first is France's compromising of democracy in the appointment of a new prime minister; the second is Turkey's application for membership in BRICS.

In August, President Nicolás Maduro declared that he had won re-election in Venezuela by a vote of 51.95% to 43.18%. The United States was quick to ride in as the champion of democracy. White House National Security Communications Advisor John Kirby told a press conference that "we have serious concerns that the result as announced does not reflect the will and the votes of the Venezuelan people." Secretary of State Antony Blinken declared that "the announcement of results by the Maduro-controlled National Electoral Council (CNE) were deeply flawed, yielding an announced outcome that does not represent the will of the Venezuelan people."

The American insistence that democratic elections represent the will of the people fits admirably with the narrative of the United States as the global defender of democracy. Its silence when France's elections fail to do so fits less admirably. And the difference between the vociferous response to a rival's election and the silence in the face of an ally's reveals the double standard. And the double standard reveals that the strategy is less about the defense of democracy than about the defense of the U.S. alliance.

After the party of French President Emmanuel Macron was dealt a shocking and crushing defeat by the far-right National Rally Party of Marine Le Pen in the European Parliamentary elections in June, Macron called elections in France. Those elections were won by the left wing New Popular Front (NPF) with 180 seats. Macron's party, who forged a front with the left against the party of Le Pen, came second with 159 seats. National Rally came third with 142 seats, and Michel Barnier's center-right Les Republicains came last with a mere 39 seats.

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The war in Ukraine, State Department spokesman Ned Price explained early on, “is a war that is in many ways bigger than Russia, it’s bigger than Ukraine.” What is bigger than Ukraine for the United States, and worth letting Ukrainians die for, is “the principle that each and every country has a sovereign right to determine its own foreign policy, has a sovereign right to determine for itself with whom it will choose to associate in terms of its alliances, its partnerships.”

But when Turkey applied for membership in BRICS, the European Union expressed concern.

BRICS is neither an alliance nor a bloc. BRICS opposes blocs and is not against the United States. Indeed, some of its members, like India, have good relations with the United States. But BRICS is a large international organization whose primary purpose is to balance U.S. hegemony in a new multipolar world. Its founding members are Russia, China, India, Brazil, and South Africa. Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, and the United Arab Emirate recently joined.
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September 16, 2024, 07:28:16 AM
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The Russian navy is withdrawing ships from Krasnodar, probably worried about the missiles that will soon fly there.
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September 16, 2024, 05:27:20 PM
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^^^ The interesting thing is that in the Russian dictatorship, the people might overthrow Putin for not acting decisively enough. The people want results. But Putin wants peace to grow his country. So, he is taking his time with Ukraine in the hopes that Zelensky will cave in, and he can start trade with a REAL Ukraine. If only the Russian people can figure this out. Putin is the best deal they ever had... at least since Stalin.

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What kind of world? Putin doesn't want anything! I would like peace, I would not start this mess. Peace... I laughed!

Well, you are kinda right. When you are ruler of the world like Putin is, there isn't much more to want.

Peace is the reason Russia went into Ukraine in the first place. Ukraine had been messing with Russia since at least 2014. Russia finally stopped it in 2022. Peace at last now that Ukraine has finally used up all its troops.
[...]

Peace is the reason why Ruzzia sent 250 thousand troops with tanks, aviation, anti-air and all the required means to fight into a foreign country? You can repeat the lie over and over, but it remains a visible lie. Should Putin be about peace, he has all the tools required to create that peace right here and right now.

But alas, as usual, the explanation is far simpler: Putin wants more territory, more power and if possible rebuild the USSR under Moscow's rule. Simply think that this is his objective and you will see that all his actions make sense. Think he wants peace and you will see all his actions do not make sense.

I know, I know... you are not about logic and trying to be logic is beyond your capabilities. Ask a friend to do it for you.

BTW BA, I think most of this newbies writing here are probably AI generated content, but sure, feel free to use them to serve your conspiracies.

And by your logic, peace is the reason why the "west" initiated the coup detat in Ukraine and then planned and stuffed Ukraine with so many US weapons before Russia even sent in those 250 thousand troops to stop them? And then we all act surprised as if madman Putin just randomly decided to invade because Russia just needs more territory?  Roll Eyes

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September 16, 2024, 10:21:13 PM
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^^^ More territory, more power and rebuild the Ruzzian domains. If you are going to argue do it correctly.
I do not see Ukrainians massively taking the streets in favour of Putin's puppet, so there must be some reason why - who knows, maybe they are absolutely ok with getting rid of Moscow and what you call a coup is simply the people taking over their own destiny into their own hands? Maybe is not about cookies after all, but about having  a future?

Your whole philosophy is built on the people of Ukraine not having an opinion nor a will of their own and that is being proven wrong.

Meanwhile the situation in Kursk is extremely fluid, with a contingent of Ruzzians near encirclement after a failed counter-attack.
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Good news. Borki in Kursk region has been completely cleared of enemies.

https://t.me/intelslava/66515


Results of an ambush against a Ukrainian convoy in the Kursk region.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMEbpiRo3yE


UK army fast disarming itself:

https://x.com/ForcesNews/status/1835332748157890611


Ukrainians fleeing in panic in Kursk region:

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/76986


NATO Powerless as Ukraine's Kursk Offensive Collapses – Catastrophic Losses!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/pTnaMJ7SNviB
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September 17, 2024, 04:29:46 AM
Last edit: September 17, 2024, 05:51:07 AM by DaRude
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^^^ More territory, more power and rebuild the Ruzzian domains. If you are going to argue do it correctly.
I do not see Ukrainians massively taking the streets in favour of Putin's puppet, so there must be some reason why - who knows, maybe they are absolutely ok with getting rid of Moscow and what you call a coup is simply the people taking over their own destiny into their own hands? Maybe is not about cookies after all, but about having  a future?

Your whole philosophy is built on the people of Ukraine not having an opinion nor a will of their own and that is being proven wrong.

Meanwhile the situation in Kursk is extremely fluid, with a contingent of Ruzzians near encirclement after a failed counter-attack.

It's refreshing to see that even you don't consider people in Crimea and Donbas as Ukrainians now, this is a great indication for me that there's a good chance that negotiations can happen by November.

Yes people taking their own destiny into their own hands, while a third top senior US politician just happened to give out cookies to them that day while saying "Fuck the EU", and then more javilins magically showed up per square meter in Ukraine than in any other place on earth, which were enough to stop Russian initial offense of 250k soldiers. It's as if they planned this all along and were actually expecting the Russian offense, and armed Ukraine to the teeth with all they could after giving out those cookies. But guess you're going to try and convince everyone that it's all just a coincidence, right?

Your whole philosophy conveniently disregards the roll US played in all of this from the very beginning. You base your arguments on absolutes, totally disregarding the realities of this world and double standards. I'm yet to hear a reason why Ukrainians should be able to take destiny into their own hands while Cubans are not allowed to?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Edit:
Wondering why more people don't voice their opposing positions, it's not like someone is oppressing them from even speaking in their mother tongue, and now to this... 
The city of Ivano-Frankivsk in western Ukraine is to be patrolled by “language inspectors” tasked with limiting the use of Russian while simultaneously promoting the use of Ukrainian among its residents, Mayor Ruslan Martsinkiv announced on Monday.

Martsinkiv attributed the decision to introduce language inspectors to the increasing frequent use of Russian in the city, which he described as a problem for Ukraine that would be solved by “introducing a public initiative”.

“Because, unfortunately, the Russian language is being spoken more in Ivano-Frankivsk, and this is a problem for our country and for our city in particular,” he added.


Nothing says freedom like "language inspectors"  Roll Eyes


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September 17, 2024, 08:24:25 AM
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Good news. Borki in Kursk region has been completely cleared of enemies.

https://t.me/intelslava/66515


Results of an ambush against a Ukrainian convoy in the Kursk region.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMEbpiRo3yE


UK army fast disarming itself:

https://x.com/ForcesNews/status/1835332748157890611


Ukrainians fleeing in panic in Kursk region:

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/76986


NATO Powerless as Ukraine's Kursk Offensive Collapses – Catastrophic Losses!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/pTnaMJ7SNviB

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Well I am seeing lots of very concerning news coming out of G7 countries media. Seems the UK & EU are potentially backing the use of serious weapons against Russia. An escalation in this war is not a good idea, Russia is not a power to be messed with. I would really prefer if we all stayed out of this war.
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Thanks, I laughed heartily from these headlines Grin
I read z-bloggers, they have chaos, so you have a lie.

I'm glad you liked it, here's some more:


Captured Maxxpro in Kursk area
https://t.me/voenacher/71827

Another two captured in the same area:
https://t.me/voenacher/71811

Ukrainian column faces heavy attack by Russian FPVs from Group North.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/77097

KA-52 Aligator scores a kill in Kursk region
https://t.me/HersonVestnik/33672
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Front update: Ruzzia has slowed down the already slow advance in the East, while there are signs of Ukraine succeeding at getting more Pow at Kursk.

On the rumours side, the conscripts that surrendered to Ukraine and are exchanged are sent back to the front (I am not sure how they expect a different result?) and the Tik-tok army of Ahmad is saying that they are not interested in recovering captured soldiers. So... I guess they pow from Chechenia need to apply for Ukrainian citizenship.

^^^ More territory, more power and rebuild the Ruzzian domains. If you are going to argue do it correctly.
I do not see Ukrainians massively taking the streets in favour of Putin's puppet, so there must be some reason why - who knows, maybe they are absolutely ok with getting rid of Moscow and what you call a coup is simply the people taking over their own destiny into their own hands? Maybe is not about cookies after all, but about having  a future?

Your whole philosophy is built on the people of Ukraine not having an opinion nor a will of their own and that is being proven wrong.

Meanwhile the situation in Kursk is extremely fluid, with a contingent of Ruzzians near encirclement after a failed counter-attack.

It's refreshing to see that even you don't consider people in Crimea and Donbas as Ukrainians now, this is a great indication for me that there's a good chance that negotiations can happen by November.

Yes people taking their own destiny into their own hands, while a third top senior US politician just happened to give out cookies to them that day while saying "Fuck the EU", and then more javilins magically showed up per square meter in Ukraine than in any other place on earth, which were enough to stop Russian initial offense of 250k soldiers. It's as if they planned this all along and were actually expecting the Russian offense, and armed Ukraine to the teeth with all they could after giving out those cookies. But guess you're going to try and convince everyone that it's all just a coincidence, right?

Your whole philosophy conveniently disregards the roll US played in all of this from the very beginning. You base your arguments on absolutes, totally disregarding the realities of this world and double standards. I'm yet to hear a reason why Ukrainians should be able to take destiny into their own hands while Cubans are not allowed to?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Edit:
Wondering why more people don't voice their opposing positions, it's not like someone is oppressing them from even speaking in their mother tongue, and now to this...  
The city of Ivano-Frankivsk in western Ukraine is to be patrolled by “language inspectors” tasked with limiting the use of Russian while simultaneously promoting the use of Ukrainian among its residents, Mayor Ruslan Martsinkiv announced on Monday.

Martsinkiv attributed the decision to introduce language inspectors to the increasing frequent use of Russian in the city, which he described as a problem for Ukraine that would be solved by “introducing a public initiative”.

“Because, unfortunately, the Russian language is being spoken more in Ivano-Frankivsk, and this is a problem for our country and for our city in particular,” he added.


Nothing says freedom like "language inspectors"  Roll Eyes



why are you so eager for peace? Is anything not going plan?

I consider people in all the regions Ukrainians under a military invasion by Moscow. Are you trying to imply that the fake referendums are anything but a mockery of democracy? I am not surprised, as said you mind does not accept free people taking decisions. They have to be under a tyrant - you probably justify it to yourself in terms of that's how it works or it is all the same or most likely, I do not care. Is like a medieval world and it is the reason why Ukraine wants to move on from it.

And here we go again with the narrative that Putin is going to protect Ruzzians, that they were mistreated, bla bla bla... Not a single part of it is true and we have gone through it a million times.

Regarding peace:

a) I do not see Putin accepting only the taken terriotories. I do not see Ukraine accepting the statu=quo on the terrain as permanent.
b) I do not see Ukraine accepting to be neutral to wait for the next invasion, I do not see Putin accepting Ukraine in NATO.
c) I do not see Ruzzia being able impose the stated objectives (4 regions) by force. I do not see Ukraine stopping to create economic pain and stiff resistance.
d) I do not see the US loosing anything by keeping the fight ongoing.

Too many things to solve in just a couple of months.
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Thanks, I laughed heartily from these headlines Grin
I read z-bloggers, they have chaos, so you have a lie.

I'm glad you liked it, here's some more:


Captured Maxxpro in Kursk area
https://t.me/voenacher/71827

Another two captured in the same area:
https://t.me/voenacher/71811

Ukrainian column faces heavy attack by Russian FPVs from Group North.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/77097

KA-52 Aligator scores a kill in Kursk region
https://t.me/HersonVestnik/33672

Why bothered trawling through all these links, let alone wasting time finding them in the first place? Just a time waste. You must have plenty of time on your hands. Too much time.

As I mentioned before, if you want a good indication how Russia's invasion is progressing, just monitor how much puffing and blowing is coming out of the Kremlin.
Last week, after (their Trump) bungled the debate panicking the Kremlin, the nonsense really cranked up to another hysterical level. Nuclear this, nuclear that, don't do this, you do that....... blah, blah... etc...  Roll Eyes

It's all telling. Very, very telling.
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Thanks, I laughed heartily from these headlines Grin
I read z-bloggers, they have chaos, so you have a lie.

I'm glad you liked it, here's some more:


Captured Maxxpro in Kursk area
https://t.me/voenacher/71827

Another two captured in the same area:
https://t.me/voenacher/71811

Ukrainian column faces heavy attack by Russian FPVs from Group North.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/77097

KA-52 Aligator scores a kill in Kursk region
https://t.me/HersonVestnik/33672

Why bothered trawling through all these links, let alone wasting time finding them in the first place? Just a time waste. You must have plenty of time on your hands. Too much time.

As I mentioned before, if you want a good indication how Russia's invasion is progressing, just monitor how much puffing and blowing is coming out of the Kremlin.
Last week, after (their Trump) bungled the debate panicking the Kremlin, the nonsense really cranked up to another hysterical level. Nuclear this, nuclear that, don't do this, you do that....... blah, blah... etc...  Roll Eyes

It's all telling. Very, very telling.


USA used same rhetoric during Cuban crisis...what was it telling to you back then, or, in retrospective, today?
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USA used same rhetoric during Cuban crisis...what was it telling to you back then, or, in retrospective, today?

It's telling us that you're desperately coping.

No, Putin will not come to liberate you from your horrible slavery of democracy. You're doomed to suffer the rest of your vatnik life trolling the system that is allowing you said trolling capabilities.
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Front update: Ruzzia has slowed down the already slow advance in the East, while there are signs of Ukraine succeeding at getting more Pow at Kursk.

On the rumours side, the conscripts that surrendered to Ukraine and are exchanged are sent back to the front (I am not sure how they expect a different result?) and the Tik-tok army of Ahmad is saying that they are not interested in recovering captured soldiers. So... I guess they pow from Chechenia need to apply for Ukrainian citizenship.

^^^ More territory, more power and rebuild the Ruzzian domains. If you are going to argue do it correctly.
I do not see Ukrainians massively taking the streets in favour of Putin's puppet, so there must be some reason why - who knows, maybe they are absolutely ok with getting rid of Moscow and what you call a coup is simply the people taking over their own destiny into their own hands? Maybe is not about cookies after all, but about having  a future?

Your whole philosophy is built on the people of Ukraine not having an opinion nor a will of their own and that is being proven wrong.

Meanwhile the situation in Kursk is extremely fluid, with a contingent of Ruzzians near encirclement after a failed counter-attack.

It's refreshing to see that even you don't consider people in Crimea and Donbas as Ukrainians now, this is a great indication for me that there's a good chance that negotiations can happen by November.

Yes people taking their own destiny into their own hands, while a third top senior US politician just happened to give out cookies to them that day while saying "Fuck the EU", and then more javilins magically showed up per square meter in Ukraine than in any other place on earth, which were enough to stop Russian initial offense of 250k soldiers. It's as if they planned this all along and were actually expecting the Russian offense, and armed Ukraine to the teeth with all they could after giving out those cookies. But guess you're going to try and convince everyone that it's all just a coincidence, right?

Your whole philosophy conveniently disregards the roll US played in all of this from the very beginning. You base your arguments on absolutes, totally disregarding the realities of this world and double standards. I'm yet to hear a reason why Ukrainians should be able to take destiny into their own hands while Cubans are not allowed to?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

Edit:
Wondering why more people don't voice their opposing positions, it's not like someone is oppressing them from even speaking in their mother tongue, and now to this...  
The city of Ivano-Frankivsk in western Ukraine is to be patrolled by “language inspectors” tasked with limiting the use of Russian while simultaneously promoting the use of Ukrainian among its residents, Mayor Ruslan Martsinkiv announced on Monday.

Martsinkiv attributed the decision to introduce language inspectors to the increasing frequent use of Russian in the city, which he described as a problem for Ukraine that would be solved by “introducing a public initiative”.

“Because, unfortunately, the Russian language is being spoken more in Ivano-Frankivsk, and this is a problem for our country and for our city in particular,” he added.


Nothing says freedom like "language inspectors"  Roll Eyes



why are you so eager for peace? Is anything not going plan?

I consider people in all the regions Ukrainians under a military invasion by Moscow. Are you trying to imply that the fake referendums are anything but a mockery of democracy? I am not surprised, as said you mind does not accept free people taking decisions. They have to be under a tyrant - you probably justify it to yourself in terms of that's how it works or it is all the same or most likely, I do not care. Is like a medieval world and it is the reason why Ukraine wants to move on from it.

And here we go again with the narrative that Putin is going to protect Ruzzians, that they were mistreated, bla bla bla... Not a single part of it is true and we have gone through it a million times.

Regarding peace:

a) I do not see Putin accepting only the taken terriotories. I do not see Ukraine accepting the statu=quo on the terrain as permanent.
b) I do not see Ukraine accepting to be neutral to wait for the next invasion, I do not see Putin accepting Ukraine in NATO.
c) I do not see Ruzzia being able impose the stated objectives (4 regions) by force. I do not see Ukraine stopping to create economic pain and stiff resistance.
d) I do not see the US loosing anything by keeping the fight ongoing.

Too many things to solve in just a couple of months.

"slowed down the already slow advance" is that just another way of saying still advancing?

I'm "eager for peace" because...well because war is bad, people dying/suffering is bad, is that not obvious to everyone? Now why don't you want peace?

Russia didn't close borders, people are free to leave when they wish to. Do you see mass exodus of people from Crimea coming into Ukraine through other countries? What would Ukrainian "language inspectors" even do with all those people that don't even speak Ukrainian? Want to look up statistic on the population of Crimea?

"fake referendums are anything but a mockery of democracy" oh you mean like the Kosovo independence precedent?
‘For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law’

Would you mind going through your justification for "language police inspectors" one more time? I must've missed you explaining how democratic and freedom loving that is.

a) I do not see Putin accepting only the taken terriotories. I do not see Ukraine accepting the statu=quo on the terrain as permanent.
-Well yeah. Russia is on record saying that this is not about the territory, Russia must have neutral Ukraine and without " language inspectors"
b) I do not see Ukraine accepting to be neutral to wait for the next invasion, I do not see Putin accepting Ukraine in NATO.
-It's really close now, but poll trends indicate it changing anytime now. Plus what are the alternatives you'd recommend to Ukraine? To go into the winter without electricity, with reduced aid from Germany and possible no aid from US? Because you honestly see less people in Ukraine accepting to be neutral coming out of the winter and going into spring in 2025? Same end result but with more suffering.
c) I do not see Ruzzia being able impose the stated objectives (4 regions) by force. I do not see Ukraine stopping to create economic pain and stiff resistance.
-Russia is on the offensive. And mostly has been for almost 3 years now. Do you see financial support for Ukraine from US/Germany reducing or increasing in 2025? And now, do you see financial support for Russia from China reducing or increasing in 2025? Follow the money  Roll Eyes
d) I do not see the US loosing anything by keeping the fight ongoing.
-It's in US's interest to keep solidarity in EU. EU collapsing would not benefit US in long term. They must do all they can to stop the spread of ultra rights in EU, this must become a top priority for US policy above all else. The question if they can actually stop ultra-rights from spreading is another matter.

Zelenskyy is being squeezed financially, and it's hard to gauge Ukraines manpower shortages after this Kursk fiasco ends. It's not what he wants to do, but what he can do, and whether waiting will improve or worsen his situation coming out of winter.

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