Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Whatever it was, but we need to go to peace. The losses are huge on all sides, but peace is needed on the basis of Ukraine's demands.

Really? And why Ukrainian and not Russian demands?
Peace was actually signed and established based on both countries demands,
but then Boris Johnson came to Kyiv.

And then as great Mahatma Gandhi said:

"If you see two fish argue at the bottom of the sea, there's probably a Briton nearby"

...and there goes the peace, out of window


And Victoria Nuland better prepare herself:

https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1831986406740148706

[BADecker]

^^^ Love it      


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It isn't the government of the US. It's the banks. Watch a few of the videos here - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=all+wars+are+banker%27s+wars - "All Wars are Banker's Wars."

[LTU_btc]

Of course it started in 2014 with Nuland cookies as Darude often reminds us, those Russians burned in Odessa got burned by "warm feelings"?

Oh, Odessa shashlik You're trying to pretend that some completely peaceful, innocent Russians were killed there. But this story isn't such one sided as you're trying to show. Both sides were throwing Molotov cocktails to each other. And even when fire these in the building refused to leave it. Some agreed and got their lifes saved. And somehow they weren't killed ''angry Ukrainian nazis'' outside the building.
On the side note I suggest you to study history of Russia a bit and how Putin is killing his citizens. There was 20th anniversary of Beslan tragedy few days ago. 334 people were killed offcially, in reality probably even more in this bloody operation. But offcourse it's nothing for you, yoou only care about what's happening in Ukraine.

You have a strange way of engaging with me by referring to events that happened two months ago (which apparently happened due to a Norwegian anti-aircraft missile falling on a children's hospital).

Oh shit, here we go again. When something similar happens in Ukraine, it's always Ukrainian air defence fault. Russia would never hit civilian objects as they're conducting this special operation with white gloves. Just check this out:
https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810686983506735555
https://x.com/bellingcat/status/1810692857415573668
I think it's stronger evidence than Zakharova or Nebenzya words.

[paxmao]

Seems like new reinforcements have arrived to Prokovsk and Vuheldar, so the offensive is stalled in those sections. Ruzzia has moved troops to Kurks, but a solution to the troops south of the Seim is very far at this point.

France has offered to train a full brigade for Ukraine.

Whatever it was, but we need to go to peace. The losses are huge on all sides, but peace is needed on the basis of Ukraine's demands.

Really? And why Ukrainian and not Russian demands?
Peace was actually signed and established based on both countries demands,
but then Boris Johnson came to Kyiv.

And then as great Mahatma Gandhi said:

"If you see two fish argue at the bottom of the sea, there's probably a Briton nearby"

...and there goes the peace, out of window


And Victoria Nuland better prepare herself:

https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1831986406740148706

I did not see Gandhi tearing apart all the British industrial legacy. Like for example nearly all the railway infrastructure? Why do they still use English in all their Universities? Why are there millions of Indian people living in the UK?  I wonder why they do not share your xenophobia to UK?

Your rants sound like AMLO in Mexico saying that Spain should apologize. but saying it in Spanish and by someone named Lopez Obrador, both very common Spanish family names.

Somehow it is always someone else who is creating the bad blood and the problems. It is the same in Iran, North Korea, ... anything that is wrong (or rather everything that is wrong) is because of the external influence.

Again, soldiers fight for many reasons, but they are not willing to die for no cause. You should by now understand that there is cause for this war, that is not related to an external enemy, that is similar to other situations around Ruzzia and that Nuland was not in Georgia, Osetia, Chechenia, Afghanistan... There is an obvious problem in Ruzzia's society and the way it is convinced of their racial superiority and their right to kill others around and use them for their own purposes like slaves.

And now Putin miscalculates grossly, Ukraine was ready to defend itself and all the sudden it is the US and the Brits and France and Germany... all are problem.

Get this into your head: Ruzzia invaded Ukraine. Ruzzia is bombing civil targets in Ukraine and this is only one of the many wars to come because there is something absolutely broken in the way the Ruzzia society is being lied to and mislead.

Why do you think people are publicly speaking of nuking here and there?? Do they understand what it means for them? Do they understand the consequences? No a chance, they have been told how great their are, how big and powerful is their nation and that they have the right to rule others "by the grace of God".

But yeah... it is about cookies sure...

[BADecker]

^^^ Youtube has a bunch of old Russian movies. Watch a few of them and you will see that the Bolsheviks wear Western-European-and-American-like suits and ties. Why? Because back at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, the Bolsheviks were supported by financiers from the US and Western Europe. So, they dressed like them.

Stalin put an end to the conquest of Russia by the US, back in the first half of the 1900's. But part of the reason why he killed something like 60 million of his own people was because he didn't know when a CIA-like group was covertly attacking him. He was being safe.

The country Stalin made strong has become too strong for modern CIA. So, they have taken over Ukraine in a bid on Ukraine's maybe-ability to weaken Russia enough to conquer them. The plan is failing badly.

[be.open]

You have a strange way of engaging with me by referring to events that happened two months ago (which apparently happened due to a Norwegian anti-aircraft missile falling on a children's hospital).

Oh shit, here we go again. When something similar happens in Ukraine, it's always Ukrainian air defence fault. Russia would never hit civilian objects as they're conducting this special operation with white gloves. Just check this out:
https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810686983506735555
https://x.com/bellingcat/status/1810692857415573668
I think it's stronger evidence than Zakharova or Nebenzya words.

Okay, two months ago some missile (possibly Russian) fell near a children's hospital and zero children died in that sad incident. It is impossible to remain silent in the face of such a horrific war crime by Russia, so let's talk about it again.

[Lucius]

]You have a strange way of engaging with me by referring to events that happened two months ago (which apparently happened due to a Norwegian anti-aircraft missile falling on a children's hospital)

Oh shit, here we go again. When something similar happens in Ukraine, it's always Ukrainian air defence fault. Russia would never hit civilian objects as they're conducting this special operation with white gloves. Just check this out:
https://x.com/FRHoffmann1/status/1810686983506735555
https://x.com/bellingcat/status/1810692857415573668
I think it's stronger evidence than Zakharova or Nebenzya words.

Okay, two months ago some missile (possibly Russian) fell near a children's hospital and zero children died in that sad incident. It is impossible to remain silent in the face of such a horrific war crime by Russia, so let's talk about it again.

Only monsters laugh when they shoot rockets at the children's hospitals - and you and others like you obviously have a lot of fun with it, but maybe it won't be when Putler declares a general mobilization and sends you to the front line.

Here, read once again how your "Russians in white gloves" think that war should be waged - now that you have killed entire families in one attack, you can drink your morning vodka with a big smile.

[BADecker]

My vagina almost grew while I was reading your pathetic whining. Dude, go fuck yourself and don't quote me anymore, you're not an interesting conversationalist.

Just show what kind of human trash you are, it's not like we didn't know, but you serve to shame all your fellow Russians who persistently show every day that they are the bottom of the human society. We people who have heart and soul sympathize with the victims, people like you celebrate and laugh.

Find and watch the movie "Archangel," - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426911/. There are still millions of Russians who want Stalin back... because they think that he made Russia strong. And, of course, even though he mistakenly killed off millions of his own, he literally DID make Russia strong.

[paxmao]

Some interesting news coming from Ukraine. The Kursk offensive is now in a more defensive phase. Ukraine still makes some advances but it seems that Ruzzia had to send troops there, despite trying to ignore the fact they were being invaded. I guess that it takes a while to assume that you country can also be invaded during a war.

The "thermite" drones have now been seen in action. I do not see these as short of wunderwaffen or superweapon, but they do have very good use cases in attack. They throw napalm or equivalent to an area of around 200 m2 for what I have seen and they burn everything in there. It is not just about the troops that have to deal with the fire, the smoke and the new threat, it is that all the equipment is destroyed, including lighter vehicles or I assume also the armoured ones to a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcKgVhiyIjE

Perhaps this is an anecdote compared to the delivery of anti-air by Germany and the commitment to supply Ukraine with a few hundred (yes, that is correct) of Linx Infantry Fighting Vehicles.

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There are still millions of Russians who want Stalin back... because they think that he made Russia strong. And, of course, even though he mistakenly killed off millions of his own, he literally DID make Russia strong.

Only a psychopath like you thinks that Stalin's regime killed millions by mistake. There was no mistake, there was genocide and targeted annihilation.

Only monsters laugh when they shoot rockets at the children's hospitals - and you and others like you obviously have a lot of fun with it, but maybe it won't be when Putler declares a general mobilization and sends you to the front line.

Here, read once again how your "Russians in white gloves" think that war should be waged - now that you have killed entire families in one attack, you can drink your morning vodka with a big smile.

My vagina almost grew while I was reading your pathetic whining. Dude, go fuck yourself and don't quote me anymore, you're not an interesting conversationalist.

Killing is not related to gender. Killing or willing to use violence does not make you more of a man, it just makes you violent and, to be honest, more stupid.

[BADecker]

Some interesting news coming from Ukraine. The Kursk offensive is now in a more defensive phase. Ukraine still makes some advances but it seems that Ruzzia had to send troops there, despite trying to ignore the fact they were being invaded. I guess that it takes a while to assume that you country can also be invaded during a war.

The "thermite" drones have now been seen in action. I do not see these as short of wunderwaffen or superweapon, but they do have very good use cases in attack. They throw napalm or equivalent to an area of around 200 m2 for what I have seen and they burn everything in there. It is not just about the troops that have to deal with the fire, the smoke and the new threat, it is that all the equipment is destroyed, including lighter vehicles or I assume also the armoured ones to a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcKgVhiyIjE

Perhaps this is an anecdote compared to the delivery of anti-air by Germany and the commitment to supply Ukraine with a few hundred (yes, that is correct) of Linx Infantry Fighting Vehicles.

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There are still millions of Russians who want Stalin back... because they think that he made Russia strong. And, of course, even though he mistakenly killed off millions of his own, he literally DID make Russia strong.

Only a psychopath like you thinks that Stalin's regime killed millions by mistake. There was no mistake, there was genocide and targeted annihilation.

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Well, thank you for the encouragement. Coming from you, it's gotta be a compliment. Lol.

I kinda like what you say, "The Kursk offensive is now in a more defensive phase." All that Russia wanted to do was 'spank' a naughty child. But the children wouldn't accept discipline. So, they died.

Not that it matters, much. Gotta go sometime, right?

[paxmao]

Some interesting news coming from Ukraine. The Kursk offensive is now in a more defensive phase. Ukraine still makes some advances but it seems that Ruzzia had to send troops there, despite trying to ignore the fact they were being invaded. I guess that it takes a while to assume that you country can also be invaded during a war.

The "thermite" drones have now been seen in action. I do not see these as short of wunderwaffen or superweapon, but they do have very good use cases in attack. They throw napalm or equivalent to an area of around 200 m2 for what I have seen and they burn everything in there. It is not just about the troops that have to deal with the fire, the smoke and the new threat, it is that all the equipment is destroyed, including lighter vehicles or I assume also the armoured ones to a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcKgVhiyIjE

Perhaps this is an anecdote compared to the delivery of anti-air by Germany and the commitment to supply Ukraine with a few hundred (yes, that is correct) of Linx Infantry Fighting Vehicles.

[...]
There are still millions of Russians who want Stalin back... because they think that he made Russia strong. And, of course, even though he mistakenly killed off millions of his own, he literally DID make Russia strong.

Only a psychopath like you thinks that Stalin's regime killed millions by mistake. There was no mistake, there was genocide and targeted annihilation.

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Well, thank you for the encouragement. Coming from you, it's gotta be a compliment. Lol.

I kinda like what you say, "The Kursk offensive is now in a more defensive phase." All that Russia wanted to do was 'spank' a naughty child. But the children wouldn't accept discipline. So, they died.

Not that it matters, much. Gotta go sometime, right?

More slogans, zero thought, more evidence of you mental illness.

[LTU_btc]

Okay, two months ago some missile (possibly Russian) fell near a children's hospital and zero children died in that sad incident. It is impossible to remain silent in the face of such a horrific war crime by Russia, so let's talk about it again.

Ok, I got your point. You would be more happy if there was 50 or 100 children killed. And FYI, there was at least 2 casualties confirmed, including one doctor, I'm not even talking about injured ones.
OK, let's say it was Ukrainian rocket,how it didn't killed dozens of children? Or implying that that hospital was empty, or it wasn't even hospital building. I don't get your flawed logic.

[be.open]

Okay, two months ago some missile (possibly Russian) fell near a children's hospital and zero children died in that sad incident. It is impossible to remain silent in the face of such a horrific war crime by Russia, so let's talk about it again.

Ok, I got your point. You would be more happy if there was 50 or 100 children killed. And FYI, there was at least 2 casualties confirmed, including one doctor, I'm not even talking about injured ones.
OK, let's say it was Ukrainian rocket,how it didn't killed dozens of children? Or implying that that hospital was empty, or it wasn't even hospital building. I don't get your flawed logic.

The fact that you continue to chew over this episode from two months ago with a tenacity worthy of a better cause clearly shows that this is not a typical event and cannot be extended to the entire manner of Russia's military operations in Ukraine.

If I show you a recent video of Ukrainian soldiers torturing Russian prisoners captured in the Kursk region with electric current, does that mean that all Ukrainian soldiers are war criminals? I don't think so. But some Ukrainians do commit war crimes. Probably some Russians, too. That is inevitable in armed conflicts of this scale and intensity.

[LTU_btc]

The fact that you continue to chew over this episode from two months ago with a tenacity worthy of a better cause clearly shows that this is not a typical event and cannot be extended to the entire manner of Russia's military operations in Ukraine.

If I show you a recent video of Ukrainian soldiers torturing Russian prisoners captured in the Kursk region with electric current, does that mean that all Ukrainian soldiers are war criminals? I don't think so. But some Ukrainians do commit war crimes. Probably some Russians, too. That is inevitable in armed conflicts of this scale and intensity.

Well, that's not me who started it. Everything started from ''shelling of Belgorod. Obviously that such moments like hitting children hospital stucks in memory for long.But do I really need to make list of hospitals, supermarkets or schools that Russia hitto show that's common thing for them.
When it comes to behaviour with POW's, it's a bit different thing than hitting civilian objects. IYes, it's war crime, no matter on what side it was made. And I only can guess what happens when cameras is turned off, probably only little part of these appears in public.

[paxmao]

Okay, two months ago some missile (possibly Russian) fell near a children's hospital and zero children died in that sad incident. It is impossible to remain silent in the face of such a horrific war crime by Russia, so let's talk about it again.

Ok, I got your point. You would be more happy if there was 50 or 100 children killed. And FYI, there was at least 2 casualties confirmed, including one doctor, I'm not even talking about injured ones.
OK, let's say it was Ukrainian rocket,how it didn't killed dozens of children? Or implying that that hospital was empty, or it wasn't even hospital building. I don't get your flawed logic.

The fact that you continue to chew over this episode from two months ago with a tenacity worthy of a better cause clearly shows that this is not a typical event and cannot be extended to the entire manner of Russia's military operations in Ukraine.

If I show you a recent video of Ukrainian soldiers torturing Russian prisoners captured in the Kursk region with electric current, does that mean that all Ukrainian soldiers are war criminals? I don't think so. But some Ukrainians do commit war crimes. Probably some Russians, too. That is inevitable in armed conflicts of this scale and intensity.

I cannot validate your claim, it may or may have not ever happened.

However, there is a pattern by Ruzzia of hitting civilians, there is a pattern in hitting schools and hospitals and shopping centres - it is not a one off. There is one guy called Andrew Perpetua. Him plus his reduced team has probably seen more videos of the war than anyone else. This person has stated many times that Ruzzians are systematically hitting civilian vehicles with drones, clearly not carrying anything but ordinary people for target practice in Kherson.

Iran reportedly has sent short range ballistics missiles to Ruzzia, in significant quantities. The US should accept the use of the same weapons for military targets in Ruzzia to make an equivalent non-escalatory move (now is no longer escalation).

The Kursk offensive, which I thought would reach a consolidation phase, is actually progressing towards the west of the current positions, to gain the territory south of the Seim River. Changes are now slower as Ruzzia, after loosing 1200 km2 of land decided to divert troop there. There are some signs of Ruzzia mobilising without actually announcing a mobilisation for obvious reasons.  No hurry, as the Ruzzians cannot resupply there - or just do it minimally. There is however massive drone activity in road from Kursk (city) to the area and often the equipment gets destroyed before reaching the front. Ukraine is serious about this front.

In the east, Ukraine was able to re-gain a locality (Niu York) and there are reinforcements being sent to the Donbas. Some other news in the are are less promising for Ukraine, but there is a reduction in the advance speed to the usual snail pace.

The other day I saw a guy comparing a snail crawling towards Ukraine for a year vs the Ruzzians invading for a year. Guess who covered more distance.

[tvbcof]

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The other day I saw a guy comparing a snail crawling towards Ukraine for a year vs the Ruzzians invading for a year. Guess who covered more distance.

The Russians obviously understand that territory is, in a lot of cases, a liability.  High cost in taking it, and ongoing cost in holding it in many situations.  The only time area really matters a lot is at the end of the conflict.

This is a pretty easy concept and I don't think that the reason it seems to escape the 'Ukrainians' is because it is difficult.  It's one of  the main supports for my hypothesis that the 'leadership' of Ukraine considers the loss of Ukrainian souls in this operation to be 'a feature, not a bug.'

Ukraine is focused on 2D (aka, area.)  Russia is focused on 3D (aka, volume as in 'gas in the tank'.)  Pokrovsk is a good illustration about how 'area' is very cheap and pretty much there for the taking when the enemy runs out of gas.  The goal is to get the enemy into a situation where they are completely out of gas and without options to get more so that they don't just run out of gas locally and as the result of an unforced error (Kursk <-> Pokrovsk).

[BADecker]

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The other day I saw a guy comparing a snail crawling towards Ukraine for a year vs the Ruzzians invading for a year. Guess who covered more distance.

The Russians obviously understand that territory is, in a lot of cases, a liability.  High cost in taking it, and ongoing cost in holding it in many situations.  The only time area really matters a lot is at the end of the conflict.

This is a pretty easy concept and I don't think that the reason it seems to escape the 'Ukrainians' is because it is difficult.  It's one of  the main supports for my hypothesis that the 'leadership' of Ukraine considers the loss of Ukrainian souls in this operation to be 'a feature, not a bug.'

Ukraine is focused on 2D (aka, area.)  Russia is focused on 3D (aka, volume as in 'gas in the tank'.)  Pokrovsk is a good illustration about how 'area' is very cheap and pretty much there for the taking when the enemy runs out of gas.  The goal is to get the enemy into a situation where they are completely out of gas and without options to get more so that they don't just run out of gas locally and as the result of an unforced error (Kursk <-> Pokrovsk).

But paxmao compares Russia to a snail. He just can't get it through his head that Russia isn't interested in taking Ukraine... that all Russia wants is what they have taken... and to get the US out of their part of the world, of course. paxmao intentionally and completely misses the picture of what is really going on. Why? I wonder. Is he that ignorant? Or is he really a warmonger who wants the war to keep on going just to kill off as many more Ukrainians as possible?


Milla Jovovich is a Kiev born, Moscow raised Ukrainian/Russian. She is a rather popular movie star in the US. Her new movie is coming out soon. It's called "Monster Hunter." Check out the trailers here https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=milla+jovovich%2C+monster+hunter.

Why do I mention this? Because it's really a kids' movie, designed to create excitement for war in children. The warmongering people in the West are training the next group of soldiers thru movies like this.

If Trump gets into office, and sees to it that the Ukraine-Russia war is shut down, he will only be there for 4 years. The warmongers have their sights on the distant future, starting as soon as Trump is gone. So, if you want peace, start preparing for beyond Trump, NOW, like the warmongers are.

[Branko]

So far according to the Russian MoD, this is how many HIMARS and M270 they got since the Kursk offensive.

"In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction the enemy lost more than 10400 military personnel, 81 tank, 41 infantry fighting vehicle, 74 armored personnel carrier, 599 armored combat vehicles, 339 cars, 76 artillery pieces, 24 multiple rocket launchers, including seven M142 HIMARS and five M270 MLRS manufactured in the USA, eight launchers of anti-aircraft missile systems two transport-charging machines, 19 electronic warfare stations, seven Counter-battery radar, two AIR DEFENSE RADAR, eight units of engineering equipment, incl. two engineering clearing machines and one mine clearance installation UR-77."

[be.open]

Okay, two months ago some missile (possibly Russian) fell near a children's hospital and zero children died in that sad incident. It is impossible to remain silent in the face of such a horrific war crime by Russia, so let's talk about it again.

Ok, I got your point. You would be more happy if there was 50 or 100 children killed. And FYI, there was at least 2 casualties confirmed, including one doctor, I'm not even talking about injured ones.
OK, let's say it was Ukrainian rocket,how it didn't killed dozens of children? Or implying that that hospital was empty, or it wasn't even hospital building. I don't get your flawed logic.

The fact that you continue to chew over this episode from two months ago with a tenacity worthy of a better cause clearly shows that this is not a typical event and cannot be extended to the entire manner of Russia's military operations in Ukraine.

If I show you a recent video of Ukrainian soldiers torturing Russian prisoners captured in the Kursk region with electric current, does that mean that all Ukrainian soldiers are war criminals? I don't think so. But some Ukrainians do commit war crimes. Probably some Russians, too. That is inevitable in armed conflicts of this scale and intensity.

I cannot validate your claim, it may or may have not ever happened.

However, there is a pattern by Ruzzia of hitting civilians, there is a pattern in hitting schools and hospitals and shopping centres - it is not a one off. There is one guy called Andrew Perpetua. Him plus his reduced team has probably seen more videos of the war than anyone else. This person has stated many times that Ruzzians are systematically hitting civilian vehicles with drones, clearly not carrying anything but ordinary people for target practice in Kherson.

Ahaha, that's great - ordinary people in wartime just go to target practice.

Tell me, was the recent strike by two Iskanders on a training center for UAV operators in Poltava with many casualties a correct operation or also a war crime?

[Branko]

Ahaha, that's great - ordinary people in wartime just go to target practice.

Tell me, was the recent strike by two Iskanders on a training center for UAV operators in Poltava with many casualties a correct operation or also a war crime?

Most western media renamed it to "hospital"