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October 25, 2024, 10:44:45 AM
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I have not seen the US threaten the use of nuclear weapons. Their doctrine has stayed the same for decades and speaks of using nukes only in nukes are used against them or a credible launch of such is detected.



As usual, you're trailing the events, or maybe just outright lie...that's not true since at least Obama (although history shows us that USA have
no problems nuking civilians)

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/news/biden-policy-allows-first-use-nuclear-weapons

Branko, read your own sources and read the US nuclear doctrine. It has been there forever.

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As long as nuclear weapons exist, the fundamental role of U.S. nuclear weapons is to deter nuclear attack
on the United States, our allies, and partners. The U.S. would only consider the use of nuclear weapons in
extreme circumstances to defend the vital interests of the United States or its allies and partners.

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this might include nuclear use to deter enemy conventional, biological, chemical, and possibly cyberattacks.

US doctrine is:
- Launch on enemies launch detection.
- Use if other weapons of mass destruction are used (e.g. bioweapons) to a scales that impairs the US to defend itself.
- Use in case the capability to use the nuclear arsenal is under threat (e.g. a Cyberattack on the nuclear response systems)
- Use if a NATO country is under such circumstances.

The latter is the "nuclear umbrella". If missing, Europe would arm to the teeth with nukes.

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Any adversary use of nuclear weapons would fundamentally alter the nature of a conflict. We must therefore be
able to deter both large-scale and limited nuclear attacks from a range of adversaries. The capability to deter
limited nuclear attacks is critical given that some competitors have developed strategies for warfare that may rely
on the threat or actual employment of nuclear weapons in order to terminate a conflict on advantageous terms.

Some Allies and partners are particularly vulnerable to attacks with non-nuclear means that could produce
devastating effects. Given that the U.S. global alliance network is a military center of gravity, the United States
will continue to field flexible nuclear capabilities and maintain country-specific approaches that reflect our best
understanding of adversary decision-making and perceptions.


Please note that the case of using nukes to end a conflict in advantageous terms cannot get any more clear. Just try to be honest for once, Ruzzia is playing with the idea of nuking Ukraine and has said so publicly many times, not to mention the Ruzzian TV insisting over and over on how great idea that is.

Despite, US has said many times that an answer to the use of nukes by Ruzzia would be "devastating" but would use conventional weapons. Quite contained if you ask me.

And no, the US has no problem nuking civilians, but this calls for equivalent limited response. I do not know any country in the world that can use nukes selectively as not to touch civilians. They are what they are and should not be there at all.







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October 25, 2024, 10:05:37 PM
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How Putin fawns over his masters on the Brics. He tries to please everyone, especially China. I laugh to tears! Lavrov is galloping like a horse there.
There are no masters in BRICS, it is an equal partnership. But if you are interested, it was Russia that initiated its creation. And this year Russia is chairing BRICS, which is why the recent forum was held in Kazan, and why Putin received leaders from other countries as a host, and not the other way around.

An equal partnership LOLLLLLL. 96% of the world transactions happen in coins that are not in the BRICS. Seriously, would you like to get paid in Iran's money  Grin Grin So the first obstacle to all this is that the BRICS money is irrelevant.

The second, well, of the other roughly 4% of transactions, roughly the whole of them are in Remimbi (Chinesse), and 0.2% in Ruzzian Ruble.In my book that is 20 times more to China than Ruzzia So equal my ass  Grin But hey, I am not judging, the Euro is not an equal partnership either, Germany and France simply have more weight.

But it does not matter, the only countries that could be interested are those who need to evade sanctions, which are just a handful. I do not see Brazil accepting you to pay in "BRICScoins" if they can ask for USD.


Now, that's kinda funny. The thing that BRICS is all about is changing the amount of money NOT used in BRICS. They are the up-and-coming new world currency option. The reason why people and countries will change over to them is that they are more honest than the Western banking systems. It doesn't happen in a day. Consider that even 20 years ago the USD was far weaker than it is today. But, now it is collapsing. BRICS and BRICS nations are helping it to collapse.

You just gotta play around with things other than the war. And, that's understandable. You don't want the people of the forum to know just how much Ukraine and its military are collapsing... just like the USD as the world currency.

Don't get me wrong. The USD is part of the strength of the US, and the West. But it was built on bad and false principles. It has been stealing from Americans and the world for a long time. Presently Americans automatically get benefits from this stealing from the world, because the USD is their currency. But they don't really need this stealing, and neither do the Brits.


Ukrainian Troops Increasingly Refusing Orders, Desertion Rates Explode



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-troops-increasingly-refusing-orders-desertion-rates-explode
The Times of London reported data from the Ukrainian government showing that "51,000 criminal cases were initiated for desertion and abandonment of a military unit between January and September of this year."

El Pais previously noted that 45,000 Ukrainians were being prosecuted for desertion from the start of the year through August. Al-Jazeera says the number is at least 30,000 desertions.

At the start of the year, Kiev was estimated to have between 500,000 and 800,000 active-duty soldiers and an additional 300,000 reservists.

The Ukrainians have also sustained casualties fighting to defend from Russian advances and amid Kiev's Kursk invasion.

Kiev has struggled to fill its ranks with fresh soldiers, leading Ukraine to drop its conscription age from 27 to 25. As Kiev is still facing manpower shortages, American politicians are pushing Ukraine to drop draft age to 18. Responsible Statecraft has reported:

Despite no evidence of victory on the horizon, the Republican senator is urging Ukrainian lawmakers to pass a mobilization bill that would force more Ukrainian citizens to be drafted into the military. Currently, men under 27 are exempted from the draft. Graham has a problem with that.

...Graham told reporters, "I would hope that those eligible to serve in the Ukrainian military would join. I can't believe it's at 27. You're in a fight for your life, so you should be serving — not at 25 or 27."

"We need more people in the line," he said.

Ukraine has also resorted to allowing prisoners to leave jail if they join the military.

One Ukrainian who deserted told the Times that prison was a better option than the military because "at least in prison, you know when you will be able to leave."
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Russia, North Korea, and a Ukrainian conscript in Kursk:

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TsirpGYDmB8


Edit:  Man, those North Korean dudes are bad-ass!

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/AcckP1tezgTz


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October 26, 2024, 04:49:59 PM
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Russia, North Korea, and a Ukrainian conscript in Kursk:

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TsirpGYDmB8


Edit:  Man, those North Korean dudes are bad-ass!

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/AcckP1tezgTz



Just like Kursk was a "gift"?

https://youtu.be/avt1EJUNuGw

As of now Ruzzia seems unable to re-take Ruzzia. The North Koreans have been sent there but they do not have any better equipment, any better command and their morale will last until they are told they need to sacrifice themselves so that the Ruzzian soldiers can see where the Ukrainian positions are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6JxDvOQx-4

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October 26, 2024, 04:57:40 PM
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I read today that South Korea wants to introduce its soldiers into Ukraine, as well as supply offensive weapons. Naturally, it is necessary for the Northerners to fight back.
So far it's just talks, nothing serious:
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We would consider supplying weapons for defensive purposes as part of the step-by-step scenarios, and if it seems they are going too far, we might also consider offensive use
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/22/south-korea-mulls-aiding-ukraine-evidence-north-korea-involvement-war
We could, we might - as you can see, so far it's just early talks.
And so far we are talking about just few thousands North Korean troops sent to this war, difficult to see it as big deal. And somehow I'm not sure that they're ready and capable to send number of troops that would be really significant, considering tension with South Korea.

I don't know, I've already seen Ukrainian videos where they present camps for North Korean prisoners of war, so maybe, just maybe.
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October 26, 2024, 05:43:03 PM
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I read today that South Korea wants to introduce its soldiers into Ukraine, as well as supply offensive weapons. Naturally, it is necessary for the Northerners to fight back.

Lol, for what? To make WWIII? Honsense.
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October 26, 2024, 07:37:37 PM
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I read today that South Korea wants to introduce its soldiers into Ukraine, as well as supply offensive weapons. Naturally, it is necessary for the Northerners to fight back.

Lol, for what? To make WWIII? Honsense.

No! To wipe out the South Korea military so that NK can take the whole Korea over.

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October 27, 2024, 07:28:08 PM
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I don't know, I've already seen Ukrainian videos where they present camps for North Korean prisoners of war, so maybe, just maybe.
I guess you're talking about this video, I saw it too:
https://t.me/hochu_zhyt/2017
Well, I guess that for North Korean troops might be better idea than return to North Korea (if they will survive in war somehow) They will get to eat 3 times a day, what's probably is something what not everyone gets in North Korea.

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Not directly focused on the war, but the war included. Let Putin tell it straight for himself:


Last question for Putin at BRICS from BBC. - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/geopoliticsandempire_last-question-for-putin-at-brics-from-bbc-activity-7255641555862982658-ThzN/.


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I read today that South Korea wants to introduce its soldiers into Ukraine, as well as supply offensive weapons. Naturally, it is necessary for the Northerners to fight back.

Lol, for what? To make WWIII? Honsense.

No! To wipe out the South Korea military so that NK can take the whole Korea over.


Maybe Mr. Kim will put an Iskander of Kinzal on 'LG Chem - Life Sciences' so they will stop sending out 'vaccines' to poison the third-world infants on their first day of life.  That would hardly break my heart.  Vietnam ran LG out after finally complying with their own rules that Vietnamese infants cannot get dosed up with jabs that are not used in the country of manufacture.


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The news from the front in the South are not encouraging, but Ukraine is managing well north and east, to the point of recovering some positions from time to time. Today however the new are two new deep strikes inside Ruzzia, and this may be new, in Chechnya. A military training facility, which unsurprisingly contained plenty of ammo, got into the Ruzzian space programme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGOPeUdU26E

Oh, and there was another large hit in Luhanks, I may have a video later. Large explosions and all that on an ammo depot going boom.
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All these little Ukrainian games. Dead Ukraine.


Russia Is Experiencing Its "Fastest Economic Growth In The Last Decade"



https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/russia-experiencing-its-fastest-economic-growth-last-decade
In the wake of many Western companies leaving the country or suspending their operations due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, they were quickly replaced by Russian versions.

So, instead of Starbucks, they have Stars Coffee, instead of Zara, they have Maag, and instead of Coca-Cola, Dobry Cola.

Back in April, Doby reported that its 2023 earnings were quadruple the profits made in 2022.

Connolly says that sanctions have proven ineffective, essentially resulting in sanctions evasion becoming a sector in and of itself.

This means that banned Western goods are still entering the country, with Russians able to purchase most of the products they were able to buy before the war.

This includes cars such as Mercedes and Chrysler, which end up in Russia via third countries such as Georgia, Kazakhstan and China.

Their price is higher because of the tortuous import route, but wealthy Russians can afford them.

"Many Russian small businesses have an incentive to buy goods on foreign markets, bring them back to Russia and sell them at very good margins," Connolly says.

The expert notes that before the war, Russian investment in the economy was poor, but now Russia is experiencing its "fastest economic growth in the last decade."
...



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All these little Ukrainian games. Dead Ukraine.


Russia Is Experiencing Its "Fastest Economic Growth In The Last Decade"/



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In the wake of many Western companies leaving the country or suspending their operations due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, they were quickly replaced by Russian versions.

So, instead of Starbucks, they have Stars Coffee, instead of Zara, they have Maag, and instead of Coca-Cola, Dobry Cola.


https://apnews.com/article/russia-interest-rates-0fa1d7385be622fd98756a5b4e715262

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Russia’s central bank raises interest rate to 21% to fight inflation boosted by military spending


https://www.focus-economics.com/country-indicator/russia/inflation/#:~:text=Consumer%20price%20inflation%20in%20Russia,information%2C%20visit%20our%20dedicated%20page.
You better be growing reaaally fast if you have this rates and this inflation (13% in 2022 an getting there in 2024). This is real, this is about the Ruzzian families having to pay for their food at double and thinking how are they going to make it to the next month. I guess one option is to go fight for Putin, nothing could go wrong of course.

Ruzzia knows they cannot keep pushing forever... but the west can if so wants.

About the Kremlin Kola and StarsPutins... sure, go for it... I mean, if you can afford it.


Oh, seems like Ruzzia is smoking also in UK. More reasons to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqu1m349cy4
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^^^ You ignore that Russia was playing the West's game. How do we know? By the $billions that they had in Western banks with which to trade with the West.

Then the West broke a bunch of agreements with Russia - including that they would not push NATO further East. And when Russia retaliated to protect themselves, the West froze their money in the Western banks.

Now, Russia is pulling out of their losses, and becoming extremely powerful. And you don't like it because you were probably one of those who was screwing Russia all along, and lying to them.



Do you know how weak the West really is? Look at a map of Russia and Siberia. It's gigantic... way bigger than China, and maybe bigger than China and the US combined. NATO is tiny land-wise.

If the West had any strength, they would simply take the Russian land. But they can't because Russia is way too strong. Wake up and see that it is Russia's patience that is keeping you and all of the UK from being destroyed in WW3... WW3 that the US is pushing into being, and the UK that Russia would strike first in nuclear war.

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^^^ You ignore that Russia was playing the West's game. How do we know? By the $billions that they had in Western banks with which to trade with the West.

Then the West broke a bunch of agreements with Russia - including that they would not push NATO further East. And when Russia retaliated to protect themselves, the West froze their money in the Western banks.

Now, Russia is pulling out of their losses, and becoming extremely powerful. And you don't like it because you were probably one of those who was screwing Russia all along, and lying to them.



Do you know how weak the West really is? Look at a map of Russia and Siberia. It's gigantic... way bigger than China, and maybe bigger than China and the US combined. NATO is tiny land-wise.

If the West had any strength, they would simply take the Russian land. But they can't because Russia is way too strong. Wake up and see that it is Russia's patience that is keeping you and all of the UK from being destroyed in WW3... WW3 that the US is pushing into being, and the UK that Russia would strike first in nuclear war.

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I am not ignoring anything dumBAss, Ruzzia has an inflation that can be compared to third world countries, the interest rates are above anything you see in an industrialised country. If you are going to argue that Ruzzia is going well economically, you should have a look at all the numbers, not the ones that fit your bias.

All countries are playing what you call "the West game" because it is the only game worth playing. Iran, Ruzzia, China... they are led by force and there is no-one who will trust the shitcoins of these countries.

US and EU have blocked 250 billions of assets from Ruzzia. Any future peace agreement will have to consider what happens to those assets. I would not like to be sitting in from of Putin having to explain it when he figures out that is something that is going to be on the table when the talks begins.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-where-are-russias-300-billion-reserves-frozen-west-2023-12-28/

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The central bank has confirmed that about $300 billion worth of assets have been frozen in the West. Total Russian foreign currency and gold reserves totalled $612 billion at the time

To put it into context, is 50% of Ruzzias GDP. I guess everyone wants to get something back... Ukraine their country, Ruzzia their money.

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https://www.focus-economics.com/country-indicator/russia/inflation/#:~:text=Consumer%20price%20inflation%20in%20Russia,information%2C%20visit%20our%20dedicated%20page.
You better be growing reaaally fast if you have this rates and this inflation (13% in 2022 an getting there in 2024). This is real, this is about the Ruzzian families having to pay for their food at double and thinking how are they going to make it to the next month. I guess one option is to go fight for Putin, nothing could go wrong of course.

Ruzzia knows they cannot keep pushing forever... but the west can if so wants.

About the Kremlin Kola and StarsPutins... sure, go for it... I mean, if you can afford it.


Oh, seems like Ruzzia is smoking also in UK. More reasons to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqu1m349cy4


We have the same inflation in Croatia since we swapped national currency for Euro, yet not many people die from hunger

UK, though:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xeyx7x75eo.amp

"A record 9.3 million people - including one in five children - are facing hunger and hardship in the UK, according to an anti-poverty charity."

Those are 3rd world numbers
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^^^ You ignore that Russia was playing the West's game. How do we know? By the $billions that they had in Western banks with which to trade with the West.

Then the West broke a bunch of agreements with Russia - including that they would not push NATO further East. And when Russia retaliated to protect themselves, the West froze their money in the Western banks.

Now, Russia is pulling out of their losses, and becoming extremely powerful. And you don't like it because you were probably one of those who was screwing Russia all along, and lying to them.



Do you know how weak the West really is? Look at a map of Russia and Siberia. It's gigantic... way bigger than China, and maybe bigger than China and the US combined. NATO is tiny land-wise.

If the West had any strength, they would simply take the Russian land. But they can't because Russia is way too strong. Wake up and see that it is Russia's patience that is keeping you and all of the UK from being destroyed in WW3... WW3 that the US is pushing into being, and the UK that Russia would strike first in nuclear war.

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I am not ignoring anything dumBAss, Ruzzia has an inflation that can be compared to third world countries, the interest rates are above anything you see in an industrialised country. If you are going to argue that Ruzzia is going well economically, you should have a look at all the numbers, not the ones that fit your bias.

All countries are playing what you call "the West game" because it is the only game worth playing. Iran, Ruzzia, China... they are led by force and there is no-one who will trust the shitcoins of these countries.

US and EU have blocked 250 billions of assets from Ruzzia. Any future peace agreement will have to consider what happens to those assets. I would not like to be sitting in from of Putin having to explain it when he figures out that is something that is going to be on the table when the talks begins.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-where-are-russias-300-billion-reserves-frozen-west-2023-12-28/

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The central bank has confirmed that about $300 billion worth of assets have been frozen in the West. Total Russian foreign currency and gold reserves totalled $612 billion at the time

To put it into context, is 50% of Ruzzias GDP. I guess everyone wants to get something back... Ukraine their country, Ruzzia their money.


But the point is, Russia was doing standard business with the West. Suddenly they find that the West has lied to them, and then frozen their business assets.

The greedy West is trying to steal Russia and Siberia from Russia. And Russia fell for it. If they had been smart, they would have wiped the West out long ago.

But they played dumb... simply because they want to do business with other people and nations. But you can only play dumb for just so long. Then you have to stand up for your rights, like Russia finally is.

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November 01, 2024, 03:48:06 PM
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^^^ You ignore that Russia was playing the West's game. How do we know? By the $billions that they had in Western banks with which to trade with the West.

Then the West broke a bunch of agreements with Russia - including that they would not push NATO further East. And when Russia retaliated to protect themselves, the West froze their money in the Western banks.

Now, Russia is pulling out of their losses, and becoming extremely powerful. And you don't like it because you were probably one of those who was screwing Russia all along, and lying to them.



Do you know how weak the West really is? Look at a map of Russia and Siberia. It's gigantic... way bigger than China, and maybe bigger than China and the US combined. NATO is tiny land-wise.

If the West had any strength, they would simply take the Russian land. But they can't because Russia is way too strong. Wake up and see that it is Russia's patience that is keeping you and all of the UK from being destroyed in WW3... WW3 that the US is pushing into being, and the UK that Russia would strike first in nuclear war.

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I am not ignoring anything dumBAss, Ruzzia has an inflation that can be compared to third world countries, the interest rates are above anything you see in an industrialised country. If you are going to argue that Ruzzia is going well economically, you should have a look at all the numbers, not the ones that fit your bias.

All countries are playing what you call "the West game" because it is the only game worth playing. Iran, Ruzzia, China... they are led by force and there is no-one who will trust the shitcoins of these countries.

US and EU have blocked 250 billions of assets from Ruzzia. Any future peace agreement will have to consider what happens to those assets. I would not like to be sitting in from of Putin having to explain it when he figures out that is something that is going to be on the table when the talks begins.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-where-are-russias-300-billion-reserves-frozen-west-2023-12-28/

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The central bank has confirmed that about $300 billion worth of assets have been frozen in the West. Total Russian foreign currency and gold reserves totalled $612 billion at the time

To put it into context, is 50% of Ruzzias GDP. I guess everyone wants to get something back... Ukraine their country, Ruzzia their money.


But the point is, Russia was doing standard business with the West. Suddenly they find that the West has lied to them, and then frozen their business assets.

The greedy West is trying to steal Russia and Siberia from Russia. And Russia fell for it. If they had been smart, they would have wiped the West out long ago.

But they played dumb... simply because they want to do business with other people and nations. But you can only play dumb for just so long. Then you have to stand up for your rights, like Russia finally is.

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Nope, the point you were making is that the Ruzzia economy is going superb, and it is not the case. It has high inflation and awful interest rates.

Ruzzia was effective doing business as usual... except for two little tiny details: Annexing Crimea a waging a covert war in the Donbas.

Have you got any argument to say the US or other wanted to "steal Siberia" ... I mean, if that was even physically possible. Ruzzia did try to wipe "the West", they simply lost because it is not much of a country. They can cause trouble an misery, but not ever able to produce anything good for the world, just destruction.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/fall-of-communism
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November 01, 2024, 10:10:14 PM
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But the point is, Russia was doing standard business with the West. Suddenly they find that the West has lied to them, and then frozen their business assets.

The greedy West is trying to steal Russia and Siberia from Russia. And Russia fell for it. If they had been smart, they would have wiped the West out long ago.

But they played dumb... simply because they want to do business with other people and nations. But you can only play dumb for just so long. Then you have to stand up for your rights, like Russia finally is.

Cool

Nope, the point you were making is that the Ruzzia economy is going superb, and it is not the case. It has high inflation and awful interest rates.

Ruzzia was effective doing business as usual... except for two little tiny details: Annexing Crimea a waging a covert war in the Donbas.

Have you got any argument to say the US or other wanted to "steal Siberia" ... I mean, if that was even physically possible. Ruzzia did try to wipe "the West", they simply lost because it is not much of a country. They can cause trouble an misery, but not ever able to produce anything good for the world, just destruction.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/fall-of-communism

I most certainly like freedom the way we have it in the UK and the US. However, Russia is free, because they found out the hard way that enslaving people doesn't work. And they want their nation to work just as any government does.

When you search for it, you will find that the CIA has been infiltrating the Slavic nations - to say nothing about the rest of the world - to influence them against Russia. But the peoples of the Slavic nations understand this. Those nations that are strong enough throw the CIA influence out. And that's to say nothing about MI6 influence... which might be greater than the CIA even though it is more hidden.

Just curious. Are you MI6? To be fair, I'm not KGB, which Putin has resurrected to combat the CIA and MI6, just as the Russian military is wiping the Ukrainian military.

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November 02, 2024, 12:40:00 PM
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But the point is, Russia was doing standard business with the West. Suddenly they find that the West has lied to them, and then frozen their business assets.

The greedy West is trying to steal Russia and Siberia from Russia. And Russia fell for it. If they had been smart, they would have wiped the West out long ago.

But they played dumb... simply because they want to do business with other people and nations. But you can only play dumb for just so long. Then you have to stand up for your rights, like Russia finally is.

Cool

Nope, the point you were making is that the Ruzzia economy is going superb, and it is not the case. It has high inflation and awful interest rates.

Ruzzia was effective doing business as usual... except for two little tiny details: Annexing Crimea a waging a covert war in the Donbas.

Have you got any argument to say the US or other wanted to "steal Siberia" ... I mean, if that was even physically possible. Ruzzia did try to wipe "the West", they simply lost because it is not much of a country. They can cause trouble an misery, but not ever able to produce anything good for the world, just destruction.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/fall-of-communism

I most certainly like freedom the way we have it in the UK and the US. However, Russia is free, because they found out the hard way that enslaving people doesn't work. And they want their nation to work just as any government does.

When you search for it, you will find that the CIA has been infiltrating the Slavic nations - to say nothing about the rest of the world - to influence them against Russia. But the peoples of the Slavic nations understand this. Those nations that are strong enough throw the CIA influence out. And that's to say nothing about MI6 influence... which might be greater than the CIA even though it is more hidden.

Just curious. Are you MI6? To be fair, I'm not KGB, which Putin has resurrected to combat the CIA and MI6, just as the Russian military is wiping the Ukrainian military.

Cool

First things first. You are Ruzzia economy is going great, but you say nothing at a 21% rate.

Second you say the US wanted to steal Siberia, which is pretty much in the middle of the Ruzzian Federation and has nearly no possible physical link with US. You have provided vage allegations about the CIA. I am waiting for proof.

You are saying the CIA and MI6 has tried to infiltrate the Slavic nations and I say YES and not only those, also all Latin America, South East Asia, Central Europa and everywhere else. That is what secret services do. Just as the USSR and Ruzzia have infiltrated and keep infiltrating the Western nations and interfered with elections. Minus one point for everyone.

You say people of Slavic nations understand this. You mean, like Estonia, Lithuania, Letonia? Ask them if they'd like to be ruled from Moscow again: hint, they don't. There is no particularly good reason for Slavs to be ruled by Moscow in the interest of Moscow.

No you are not KGB, you at most could be FSB (and you are not either, you may be a Chinese Texan at most). Putin has not resurrected it, he IS the FSB and grew up in the ranks of the FSB, seriously you did not know that??

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