Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[DaRude]

What a silly claim, and how much are you going to put where your mouth is? When is anything current Ukrainian president/government promised going to happen? Any timelines on the bridge, Crimea, or 1991 borders? Any bets on how long that UA law about no negotiations with Putin will stand? Bottom line is Russia continues to take more land everyday, and the only comeback to that is, why so slow?

Why so slow, or....

Russia was so confident that they'd be able to steam roll Ukraine, take Kyiev, kill Zelensky, etc. that before they invaded in Feb, they had already planned a parade for that May and even packed special uniforms to wear in the parade.

They even made it illegal to call it a war.  It was just a special operation.  No big deal.  The global general consensus was maybe it would take 3 weeks for Kiev to fall, probably two though.

Imagine if you could go back in time and tell Russians that in 2024, Putin would travel to North Korea to beg for weapons and rumors of a second mobilization were starting to spread
The Orc army could have chosen

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How confident are you that when US staged coup detat/regime change in Ukraine that they just didn't know that it would breach on Russia's national interests, and they just miscalculated? Or do you think they knew pretty well what they were doing by giving out cookies and saying Fuck the EU, and this is all is just a collateral damage in a bigger plan?

You mean exactly the same reasons why US and NATO didn't call any of their military "operations" wars, in the past 60 years?

If Cuba was an existential threat to US, Ukraine is definitely an existential threat to Russia. Russia loosing Ukraine would follow with a loss of Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Belarus... Without it's sphere of influence, it would seize to be a regional power and would collapse once again.

Imagine if you could travel back in time to Ukraine in 2013 when everything was fine and educate these people about the Judas kiss and tell them not to accept these cookies. How many Ukrainians would you save by not sending them to be pawns in a larger global conflict?

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Re Zelensky's "political suicide", the person is not that relevant. A true peace that leaves Ukraine with means of defence and most of the territory intact, with access to sea, is not ideal, but there is still a country named "Ukraine" with all the means required to be a viable nation.

Again, peace itself is desirable, but the question is what peace. A good peace gets statues of Zelensky in the city square and peace for decades, a bad peace gets you another war in 5 years.

Can't say i'm surprised that you won't put your money where you mouth is. But really nice to see you start accepting the reality and pivoting from "1991 borders". Now comes the hard part, do you really think that such end result for Ukraine, couldn't be reached without loosing so many Ukrainian lives? What do you think was in that written response in 2021 before all this started? Would you want Russia to declassify and publicize it? Because i doubt the US would do it in the next 50 or so years.

January 2022
The United States has delivered a written response to Russia addressing Moscow’s security demands, Secretary of State Antony
Blinken announced on Wednesday, as Washington continues to pursue diplomacy aimed at diverting a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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U.S. Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan delivered to Moscow, was “fully coordinated” with Ukraine and European allies, Blinken said, and it “sets out a serious diplomatic path forward, should Russia choose it.”

Please, state your bet. And make sure it is about something I have said little liar.

There is nothing to discuss about the borders - whatever was internationally recognised before Ruzzia invaded is what should be and whatever comes from a negotiation - if there is one ever - is what we will have to live with. I leave you to your theories on why somehow invading a sovereign country is OK if it suits your interests.

Your are overusing the picture about cookies. Would you like to try convincing us that Ruzzia is a corruption free country with no "cookies"? You have a hard task ahead.

Are you really sure you want to go that way?

Blowing the Nord Stream II looks like the RF army doing to kind of "make a point" on regards to EU aid and aligns well with a country that is under a Junta. In my view, this is an act of war. The Orc army could have chosen any other target right? A bridge in France, a factory in Germany... Why do you think they would hit NS II? The answer is very simple: it is not in NATO territory and does not grant a NATO mobilisation which would end any expectation of even a technical "victory" in the invasion

Meanwhile, the disconnect between the RF army chief Psychos and the diplomatic and civil side of the government is show again in the terrorist attacks against Nord Stream II.

as the RF has destroyed the Nord Streams "outside NATO territory".

The Nord Stream was mainly a RF doing...Bottomline, as it is now, it looks like international terrorism from Adolf Putin's Psychos and the Chief Orcs.

Let's see how things are going with that as of 15.07.2024

Nord Stream attack is said to have been planned ten years ago
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WELT AM SONNTAG now has new information. The focus: a Ukrainian group.
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The attack on the two Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea is said to have been planned by a Ukrainian group before Russia occupied Crimea in 2014. WELT AM SONNTAG learned this from German investigators. Accordingly, such considerations did not only arise with Russia's war of aggression. This is indicated by the results of investigations by German and foreign authorities, which also included intelligence information.
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Denmark and Sweden have closed the investigations. Only in Germany are the Federal Police and the Federal Criminal Police Office investigating the background to the act of sabotage on behalf of the Federal Prosecutor General. "The investigations are still ongoing," the Federal Prosecutor's Office said.
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The energy project had been publicly rejected by Ukraine time and again. Former Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, for example, had voiced criticism. "This project is anti-Ukrainian and anti-European," he warned in September 2015.
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The focus of the German investigation is a sailing yacht called "Andromeda" that was chartered in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania at the time of the attack. The six-person crew is said to have been in Ukraine before and after the attack. New evidence has since emerged that strengthens the suspicion that the attack on the pipelines was carried out by the ship's crew, said an official familiar with the investigation.
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A week before the explosions, the "Andromeda" was checked by border guards in Kolberg, Poland. According to security circles in Warsaw, the visit on board was not a random act; a secret service tip had apparently been received in Poland shortly beforehand. Agents from the USA were also said to have been on site.

In addition, video recordings of the ship and the crew are said to be available. In Warsaw, it was reportedly initially considered making the images available to German investigators. But no handover took place. One reason is said to be that the recordings may not only show the "Andromeda" crew, but also Polish and American agents.
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Meanwhile, there is growing concern among the opposition that the investigations are coming to nothing. CDU foreign policy expert Roderich Kiesewetter fears that no result will be achieved or that it will not be published for reasons of state security. "I do not see any real interest in finding out the truth in the Chancellery, which is the only one with a complete overview of the investigation results of the services and the Federal Prosecutor General," said Kiesewetter.

So how much are you willing to bet on this claim of yours that "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams"? With the rise of the right party, doubt Germany will be able to conceal/classify or hold out from releasing the findings for much longer But Xal0lex has been censoring me on this, so fully expect he'll delete this post just as he did with my previous posts on this topic.

[paxmao]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

Meanwhile Ukraine has shut the oil pipe that was supplying Ruzzian oil to Hungary. Orban may be under a little bit of pressure now I am guessing.

[DaRude]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

[paxmao]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

I do not trust a report from Germany, they have their interests and may want to recover the costs, which will never happen if they say it was Ruzzia. Any other brilliant idea or are you finally going to understand that there will probably never be a convincing evidence of who and why?

If your read my posts I usually "likely" or "I believe"... far different from asserting.

But we could look into some of your claims in the past? Interested?

[DaRude]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

I do not trust a report from Germany, they have their interests and may want to recover the costs, which will never happen if they say it was Ruzzia. Any other brilliant idea or are you finally going to understand that there will probably never be a convincing evidence of who and why?

If your read my posts I usually "likely" or "I believe"... far different from asserting.

  you funny, let's try it again big man.

How much do you want to bet and how do you propose we settle the bet on your claim that "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams".

Simple question no?

[paxmao]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

I do not trust a report from Germany, they have their interests and may want to recover the costs, which will never happen if they say it was Ruzzia. Any other brilliant idea or are you finally going to understand that there will probably never be a convincing evidence of who and why?

If your read my posts I usually "likely" or "I believe"... far different from asserting.

  you funny, let's try it again big man.

How much do you want to bet and how do you propose we settle the bet on your claim that "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams".

Simple question no?

I am not sure of what you find funny or not - not that I care.

Please, read what's written: It is not possible to settle that claim. There is a reason why secret ops are called secret.

There may be circumstantial evidence, a suspicion here or there or those newspaper articles you like to link... but a picture of the guy setting the bomb wearing full Ruzzian camouflage with a check signed by Vladimir or whatever... that's not going to be there. There may be a degree of "evidence" but nothing conclusive. I think that I cannot say anything more clearly.

However my offer remains open...would you like to go over some of your past claims? They may be much easier to fact check?

Meanwhile, I hope you do not need to refill your tank in Hungary. I think Ukraine if giving them a taste of what means to be out of the EU's umbrella.

Also, do not go on vacation to the Morozov airfield. There seems to be people smoking in the wrong place every week or so.

[DaRude]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

I do not trust a report from Germany, they have their interests and may want to recover the costs, which will never happen if they say it was Ruzzia. Any other brilliant idea or are you finally going to understand that there will probably never be a convincing evidence of who and why?

If your read my posts I usually "likely" or "I believe"... far different from asserting.

  you funny, let's try it again big man.

How much do you want to bet and how do you propose we settle the bet on your claim that "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams".

Simple question no?

I am not sure of what you find funny or not - not that I care.

Please, read what's written: It is not possible to settle that claim. There is a reason why secret ops are called secret.

There may be circumstantial evidence, a suspicion here or there or those newspaper articles you like to link... but a picture of the guy setting the bomb wearing full Ruzzian camouflage with a check signed by Vladimir or whatever... that's not going to be there. There may be a degree of "evidence" but nothing conclusive. I think that I cannot say anything more clearly.

However my offer remains open...would you like to go over some of your past claims? They may be much easier to fact check?

Meanwhile, I hope you do not need to refill your tank in Hungary. I think Ukraine if giving them a taste of what means to be out of the EU's umbrella.

How it started:
Please, state your bet. And make sure it is about something I have said little liar.

Whats funny is how you're trying to wiggle your way out of this. So now you're saying that there's no independent third party you would trust to make a binary judgement call on your claims? What do you think your claims are worth after this?

[BADecker]

Russia is advancing. But Latvia sent drones to Ukraine. Do you think drones will help?

Latvia Sends 1st Batch of Over 500 Drones to Ukraine - Defense Ministry - https://sputnikglobe.com/20240723/latvia-sends-1st-batch-of-over-500-drones-to-ukraine---defense-ministry-1119466679.html


Russia Continues Advancing In Ukraine and Donbas


https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/russia-continues-advancing-in-ukraine-and-donbas
Russia’s troops have continued to advance into Ukraine and Donbas, while the West is hypnotized by the current election theatre. Russian forces have also liberated the town of Rozovka in the Lugansk People’s Republic and captured Pestchanoye Nizhneye in Ukraine’s Kharkiv Region, the defense ministry in Moscow reported on Sunday.

As Ukraine’s losses mount, the U.S. slave class doubles down on its desire to be ruled over. In just the past 24 hours, the Ukrainian military has suffered more than 1,500 casualties in various hotspots along the frontline, losing multiple artillery guns, including US-made M777 howitzers, Russian military officials asserted.

According to a report by RT, Russia’s advancements do not stop there. Seven Ukrainian ammunition depots have been struck in various areas, according to the ministry’s statement. The Russian Ministry of Defense said its troops have improved their positions in a number of areas in the Donetsk People’s Republic.
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[Branko]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

Meanwhile Ukraine has shut the oil pipe that was supplying Ruzzian oil to Hungary. Orban may be under a little bit of pressure now I am guessing.

That's very wise move by Ukraine, who get 42% of its electricity from Hungary...simply brilliant

https://www.reuters.com/world/hungary-slovakia-ask-european-commission-mediate-with-ukraine-over-lukoil-2024-07-22/

[paxmao]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

I do not trust a report from Germany, they have their interests and may want to recover the costs, which will never happen if they say it was Ruzzia. Any other brilliant idea or are you finally going to understand that there will probably never be a convincing evidence of who and why?

If your read my posts I usually "likely" or "I believe"... far different from asserting.

  you funny, let's try it again big man.

How much do you want to bet and how do you propose we settle the bet on your claim that "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams".

Simple question no?

I am not sure of what you find funny or not - not that I care.

Please, read what's written: It is not possible to settle that claim. There is a reason why secret ops are called secret.

There may be circumstantial evidence, a suspicion here or there or those newspaper articles you like to link... but a picture of the guy setting the bomb wearing full Ruzzian camouflage with a check signed by Vladimir or whatever... that's not going to be there. There may be a degree of "evidence" but nothing conclusive. I think that I cannot say anything more clearly.

However my offer remains open...would you like to go over some of your past claims? They may be much easier to fact check?

Meanwhile, I hope you do not need to refill your tank in Hungary. I think Ukraine if giving them a taste of what means to be out of the EU's umbrella.

How it started:
Please, state your bet. And make sure it is about something I have said little liar.

Whats funny is how you're trying to wiggle your way out of this. So now you're saying that there's no independent third party you would trust to make a binary judgement call on your claims? What do you think your claims are worth after this?

There is nothing more to say about this. There is no way of settling a result on the bet you propose.

But, again, we can go over all the statements you have made on this thread and choose something that can be easily fact-checked. Or are you trying to wiggle your way out of everything you have written here?

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

Meanwhile Ukraine has shut the oil pipe that was supplying Ruzzian oil to Hungary. Orban may be under a little bit of pressure now I am guessing.

That's very wise move by Ukraine, who get 42% of its electricity from Hungary...simply brilliant

https://www.reuters.com/world/hungary-slovakia-ask-european-commission-mediate-with-ukraine-over-lukoil-2024-07-22/

Please, do not oversize the images so much, you can make your point equally well.

Ukraine can choose from where to get the electricity in the future, there is enough connectivity. Obviously, they already thought of it. At this moment seems like Ukraine has simply taken a sovereign decision and apply "sanctions" to Ruzzia oil. I wonder if Orban is going to try for the EU to help him

https://www.german-economic-team.com/en/newsletter/ukraines-electricity-grid-synchronisation-with-the-eu-2/#:~:text=On%2016%20March%202022%2C%20the,for%202023%20at%20the%20earliest.

In the current electricity situation in Ukraine, which Ukrainian companies Ukrenergo and DTEK (producers, distribution grid operators) report on daily, the demand for electricity is very low due to the war: only 12-13 GW are currently being demanded of the approximately 53 GW of installed capacity.

[BADecker]

Gee, paxmao. Did you give up trying to get me to bet with you that the Russian Black Sea corridor through what was formerly Ukraine land doesn't exist?

[Violatoor]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

Meanwhile Ukraine has shut the oil pipe that was supplying Ruzzian oil to Hungary. Orban may be under a little bit of pressure now I am guessing.

That's very wise move by Ukraine, who get 42% of its electricity from Hungary...simply brilliant

https://www.reuters.com/world/hungary-slovakia-ask-european-commission-mediate-with-ukraine-over-lukoil-2024-07-22/

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/452311298_3514317315533517_929285732353764931_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_eui2=AeGr9ML-KREBe1jn864eKA_lC6Rklt-abPULpGSW35ps9cm_Qr_4lou5LjvtMBsiFDD35hGAa5pSBWAXTWftr1ek&_nc_ohc=vbXgDyTK8pEQ7kNvgFv2Zgr&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=00_AYBRHKHmWqoLRGi4hH72PUZPEbNopqGeD82EnFdcGLPTzg&oe=66A5B071

I hope Ukraine will be helped properly, but what next? Will she pull off another year of war?

[paxmao]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

Meanwhile Ukraine has shut the oil pipe that was supplying Ruzzian oil to Hungary. Orban may be under a little bit of pressure now I am guessing.

That's very wise move by Ukraine, who get 42% of its electricity from Hungary...simply brilliant

https://www.reuters.com/world/hungary-slovakia-ask-european-commission-mediate-with-ukraine-over-lukoil-2024-07-22/

I hope Ukraine will be helped properly, but what next? Will she pull off another year of war?

It depends. At this point many options are possible, including one or more years of war.

[Branko]

"The poll found that 32 percent of Ukrainians said they would accept ceding territory to "achieve peace and preserve independence,"
compared to 26 percent in February this year. It was 9 percent in February 2023."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-support-for-ceding-territory-surges/ar-BB1qupjG

[tvbcof]

"The poll found that 32 percent of Ukrainians said they would accept ceding territory to "achieve peace and preserve independence,"
compared to 26 percent in February this year. It was 9 percent in February 2023."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-support-for-ceding-territory-surges/ar-BB1qupjG

The population is suffering a die-off and it's dis-proportionally impacting the suicidal/retarded who don't see how the game is being played and who would fight and die for the current power structures who are molding Ukraine's demographics as we speak.  Russia is just being used as a tool for the project.

Maybe it isn't such a good idea to beat up a large contingent of one's population if they are heard speaking their mother tongue.  Unless, of course, problems are exactly what the leadership/owners want.  As the pain of the war drags on and intensifies, what is left of the more historic Ukrainian population is increasingly willing to accept any fate offered to them by the technocrats.  It's not clear that that would have been the case absent a significant trauma.

[BADecker]

"The poll found that 32 percent of Ukrainians said they would accept ceding territory to "achieve peace and preserve independence,"
compared to 26 percent in February this year. It was 9 percent in February 2023."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-support-for-ceding-territory-surges/ar-BB1qupjG

The population is suffering a die-off and it's dis-proportionally impacting the suicidal/retarded who don't see how the game is being played and who would fight and die for the current power structures who are molding Ukraine's demographics as we speak.  Russia is just being used as a tool for the project.

Maybe it isn't such a good idea to beat up a large contingent of one's population if they are heard speaking their mother tongue.  Unless, of course, problems are exactly what the leadership/owners want.  As the pain of the war drags on and intensifies, what is left of the more historic Ukrainian population is increasingly willing to accept any fate offered to them by the technocrats.  It's not clear that that would have been the case absent a significant trauma.

Besides, unlike in the US, when the wrong people were in office in Ukraine, millions migrated elsewhere. These people are still Ukrainians. When you take their vote of migration into account, the overwhelming majority wants peace... didn't even want the war in the first place... didn't even want the current regime at all... didn't want Zelensky. That's the majority of Ukrainians because half a million Ukrainians have died in the war.

Bring peace to Ukraine, and these Ukrainians just might come back.


Watch: Russia Mounts Ballistic Missile Strike On Western Arms Depot In Ukraine


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-russia-mounts-ballistic-missile-strike-western-arms-depot-ukraine
The Russian Defense Ministry on Tuesday published footage purporting to show the destruction of a large warehouse filled with US-supplied weapons, specifically including a HIMARS multiple rocket launcher system. The depot was destroyed by a Russian ballistic missile, with the video showing an extensive building engulfed in huge flames.

Russian media details that the US-supplied HIMARS system was "discovered by a surveillance drone and was tracked to a hangar in the village of Novopetrovka, in Ukraine's Nikolayev Region."

"The location was hit by a ballistic missile fired by an Iskander-M system, the Russian military reported on Monday, adding that the HIMARS and its crew had been destroyed," the report continues. The destruction and aftermath was then filmed by Russian surveillance drones.

Meanwhile, Ukraine launched its own attack, this time sending drones to Russia's Krasnodar Region's Kavkaz port, which lies on the eastern side of Kerch Strait.

It was a rare moment that Ukraine attacked a ferry, resulting in a handful of casualties and one death.

"The Kiev regime has once again attempted to carry out a terrorist act on the territory of the Krasnodar Region. This morning the drones attacked a ferry in the port of Kavkaz. Unfortunately, there are casualties and a fatality among the crew members and port employees," the region's governor wrote on Telegram.

A fire also resulted after the rare attack on the ferry as it was in operation. However, reports suggest the ferry was not carrying large groups of civilians at the time it was struck.

Ukraine has not backed off its frequent cross-border drone strikes on Russian territory. Moscow has at the same time stepped-up its targeting of Western assets and weapons inside Ukraine, in a continued escalation spiral.
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[DaRude]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

I propose we get an independent third party to hold the bet, and that party should make a judgement call once Germany officially releases its findings and conclusions, if "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams". How do you propose we do it?

I do not trust a report from Germany, they have their interests and may want to recover the costs, which will never happen if they say it was Ruzzia. Any other brilliant idea or are you finally going to understand that there will probably never be a convincing evidence of who and why?

If your read my posts I usually "likely" or "I believe"... far different from asserting.

  you funny, let's try it again big man.

How much do you want to bet and how do you propose we settle the bet on your claim that "RF has destroyed the Nord Streams".

Simple question no?

I am not sure of what you find funny or not - not that I care.

Please, read what's written: It is not possible to settle that claim. There is a reason why secret ops are called secret.

There may be circumstantial evidence, a suspicion here or there or those newspaper articles you like to link... but a picture of the guy setting the bomb wearing full Ruzzian camouflage with a check signed by Vladimir or whatever... that's not going to be there. There may be a degree of "evidence" but nothing conclusive. I think that I cannot say anything more clearly.

However my offer remains open...would you like to go over some of your past claims? They may be much easier to fact check?

Meanwhile, I hope you do not need to refill your tank in Hungary. I think Ukraine if giving them a taste of what means to be out of the EU's umbrella.

How it started:
Please, state your bet. And make sure it is about something I have said little liar.

Whats funny is how you're trying to wiggle your way out of this. So now you're saying that there's no independent third party you would trust to make a binary judgement call on your claims? What do you think your claims are worth after this?

There is nothing more to say about this. There is no way of settling a result on the bet you propose.

But, again, we can go over all the statements you have made on this thread and choose something that can be easily fact-checked. Or are you trying to wiggle your way out of everything you have written here?

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Step1: Make a ridiculous claim.
Step2: Call me a liar, ask for a bet on something you you previously said.
Step3: Dismiss all unfavorable sources. And claim that burden of proof on your claim is unattainable to all humankind.

Are all of the claims that you make impossible to prove? So you just make up whatever? If not please list few which you feel should be resolved in the near future in favor of current UA leadership.

[nakitalk]

Again and again your favourite topic. Seriously when are you going to read today's news??

To the bet, how do you propose to find out who won the bet? I am guessing you intend to use one of your "sources"?

Meanwhile Ukraine has shut the oil pipe that was supplying Ruzzian oil to Hungary. Orban may be under a little bit of pressure now I am guessing.

That's very wise move by Ukraine, who get 42% of its electricity from Hungary...simply brilliant

https://www.reuters.com/world/hungary-slovakia-ask-european-commission-mediate-with-ukraine-over-lukoil-2024-07-22/

I hope Ukraine will be helped properly, but what next? Will she pull off another year of war?

It depends. At this point many options are possible, including one or more years of war.

But Ukraine does not have such resources, especially human ones.

[BADecker]

Note that the freezing of Russian funds that are held in US banks, etc., is a breach of trust by the US. Russia did not do anything against the US. Rather, the US has been 'messing' with Russia for decades. This is simply another way.

Be careful how you trust the US. She ain't trustworthy.


Russia promises a response to the West’s “theft” of its assets as EU plans to send interest earned on Russian funds to Ukraine


https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-07-24-russia-promises-response-theft-assets-eu.html
The European Union has announced its intention to send over the first tranche of interest earned by frozen Russian funds to Kiev next month, and Russia has vowed to respond to what it maintains is theft.

The European Commission's Josep Borrell announced on Monday that the $1.5 billion in interest will be sent to Ukraine during the first week of August to help the country cover its arms purchases.

A spokesman for the Kremlin, Dmitry Peskov, said that there will be retaliation against the West for expropriating the assets, with legal proceedings in the works against the entities that they believe stole roughly $282 billion worth of Russian assets. The money in question is still frozen.
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[paxmao]

[..]

Step1: Make a ridiculous claim.
Step2: Call me a liar, ask for a bet on something you you previously said.
Step3: Dismiss all unfavorable sources. And claim that burden of proof on your claim is unattainable to all humankind.

Are all of the claims that you make impossible to prove? So you just make up whatever? If not please list few which you feel should be resolved in the near future in favor of current UA leadership.

Would you like to have a bet on some of the easy to fact=check claims you have made? I am asking again because you seem to repeat over and over the same line, but do not answer this simple question.

Yes, in favour of the UN recognised nation of Ukraine, I would like to predict that Ruzzia is going to be hit with more drone attacks in oil and gas facilities costing millions and making this war more and more expensive.

For example, today Ruzzia is minus one ferry in Kerch. "Slavyanin" was the name of the ship that has now become a habitat for seafood and coraline especies. Would you like to see some evidence of this or would you like to take my word for it? (it is a trick question, do not walk into it).

Also, there has been another hit in Tuapse. No wonder, it is quite large and apparently not very well protected. There is plenty of millions of Roubles to be destroyed in there. This is a veery expensive short and long term war