FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread

[hahay]

I'm not sure about Argentina now honestly. Because Croatia have the potential to do the same thing they did to Brazil. They can just park the bus and defend Argentina players hard. Croatia manager knows what is coming for them so there is no meaning for them to play an offensive game. Their defensive tactics are already working for now. Argentina will need to break the lock of their defense as fast as possible. If they get unlucky just as Brazil when they find big chances, then they might be in big trouble.

Match results are uncertain now with the "dark horses" making their way to the semi-finals. Croatia may well do what you're saying and wait for their time to counter. It's amazing how teams could keep the ball 70% to 80% of the time and still fail to score. Argentina may be a different team but who knows what's going to happen.

I honestly want either Croatia or Morocco win the Finals because that would be a historic moment for both countries and FIFA.

I think Croatia might have been a bit lucky because Brazil lowered their tempo when they already had a goal, even though there was still the second half in extra time but Brazil just played like it was just to kill time without any pressure being exerted. Therefore, when Brazil lost momentum, the Croatian players made a quick counterattack until they managed to score a goal in the end.
If Brazil still plays at the same tempo after having a goal then I'm sure Brazil will still win but unfortunately, it looks like Brazil might think because they dominated the match then they looked like they underestimated Croatia after having that one goal.

So, even though Croatia are playing very defensively, there will always be gaps to be converted into goals by Argentine players later.
Also, it looks like if the game is going to be decided on penalties again, I think the Argentinian squad have the better players to be able to score in penalties. So yes, I personally still believe that Argentina will win and advance to the final against France, at least that is also the result on paper. But if another surprise happens, then we will see Croatia or Morocco in the final but not both.

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[Agbe]

I'm not sure about Argentina now honestly. Because Croatia have the potential to do the same thing they did to Brazil. They can just park the bus and defend Argentina players hard. Croatia manager knows what is coming for them so there is no meaning for them to play an offensive game. Their defensive tactics are already working for now. Argentina will need to break the lock of their defense as fast as possible. If they get unlucky just as Brazil when they find big chances, then they might be in big trouble.

Even a 1-0 score advantage might not be enough for Argentina here. Because we all saw how great Croatia answered Brazil in extra time. I hope Messi shows another delightful performance to make things easier for his team.

I really agree with you for Croatia and Argentina , I have full support on Croatia team. Croatia players are good, they will beat Argentina the way they beat Brazil. Croatia defense is strong that was why Brazil could not just penetrate to score.

I think Croatia might have been a bit lucky because Brazil lowered their tempo when they already had a goal, even though there was still the second half in extra time but Brazil just played like it was just to kill time without any pressure being exerted. Therefore, when Brazil lost momentum, the Croatian players made a quick counterattack until they managed to score a goal in the end.
If Brazil still plays at the same tempo after having a goal then I'm sure Brazil will still win but unfortunately, it looks like Brazil might think because they dominated the match then they looked like they underestimated Croatia after having that one goal.

So, even though Croatia are playing very defensively, there will always be gaps to be converted into goals by Argentine players later.
Also, it looks like if the game is going to be decided on penalties again, I think the Argentinian squad have the better players to be able to score in penalties. So yes, I personally still believe that Argentina will win and advance to the final against France, at least that is also the result on paper. But if another surprise happens, then we will see Croatia or Morocco in the final but not both.

Penalty has nothing bro do with a team that has a better players oo. Because even the so call better players are the ones missing penalty in the tournament.

[Altryist]

I think Croatia might have been a bit lucky because Brazil lowered their tempo when they already had a goal, even though there was still the second half in extra time but Brazil just played like it was just to kill time without any pressure being exerted. Therefore, when Brazil lost momentum, the Croatian players made a quick counterattack until they managed to score a goal in the end.
If Brazil still plays at the same tempo after having a goal then I'm sure Brazil will still win but unfortunately, it looks like Brazil might think because they dominated the match then they looked like they underestimated Croatia after having that one goal.

So, even though Croatia are playing very defensively, there will always be gaps to be converted into goals by Argentine players later.
Also, it looks like if the game is going to be decided on penalties again, I think the Argentinian squad have the better players to be able to score in penalties. So yes, I personally still believe that Argentina will win and advance to the final against France, at least that is also the result on paper. But if another surprise happens, then we will see Croatia or Morocco in the final but not both.

At the stage of the quarter-final and semi-final, it is very dangerous to force game, so teams often try to play more carefully so as not to make a fatal mistake. Brazil was well aware that Croatia was a very dangerous opponent and therefore played cautiously, perhaps even too much. Against Argentina, Croatia will probably play defensively as well, and if everything goes to extra time and penalties again, I'm not sure that Argentina will have any advantage in this case, we have seen what Croatia is capable of, the chances will be equal.

[W Jr.]

I'm not sure about Argentina now honestly. Because Croatia have the potential to do the same thing they did to Brazil. They can just park the bus and defend Argentina players hard. Croatia manager knows what is coming for them so there is no meaning for them to play an offensive game. Their defensive tactics are already working for now. Argentina will need to break the lock of their defense as fast as possible. If they get unlucky just as Brazil when they find big chances, then they might be in big trouble.

Match results are uncertain now with the "dark horses" making their way to the semi-finals. Croatia may well do what you're saying and wait for their time to counter. It's amazing how teams could keep the ball 70% to 80% of the time and still fail to score. Argentina may be a different team but who knows what's going to happen.

I honestly want either Croatia or Morocco win the Finals because that would be a historic moment for both countries and FIFA.

If Croatia or Morocco win the cup, it will be a first in WC history. At the moment, both teams are seen as far from favorite options. By far everyone thinks that France and Argentina will reach the final. Underestimating Morocco could make France lose. As for why, Morocco managed to eliminate both Spain and Portugal. These achievements are a sign of how strong they are. For the finals, they will try to endure and win against France with all their might.

[Gozie51]

I'm not sure about Argentina now honestly. Because Croatia have the potential to do the same thing they did to Brazil. They can just park the bus and defend Argentina players hard. Croatia manager knows what is coming for them so there is no meaning for them to play an offensive game. Their defensive tactics are already working for now. Argentina will need to break the lock of their defense as fast as possible. If they get unlucky just as Brazil when they find big chances, then they might be in big trouble.

Even a 1-0 score advantage might not be enough for Argentina here. Because we all saw how great Croatia answered Brazil in extra time. I hope Messi shows another delightful performance to make things easier for his team.

I really agree with you for Croatia and Argentina , I have full support on Croatia team. Croatia players are good, they will beat Argentina the way they beat Brazil. Croatia defense is strong that was why Brazil could not just penetrate to score.

Croatia is a strong side no doubt and are really likely to win Argentina. We should remember that they did very well at the last world cup in Russia and not much has changed from the team since then. They are a compact side from the last 4 years, they beat England 2-1 at the semi finals before losing to France 4-2 at the finals. So they have a very good record and coming to this stage is not something new for them and they are going to play with that confidence. They have been consistent and are going to put all resistance against Argentina after all they sent Brazil home.

[RockBell]

Whenever they make it to the World Cup final four, Argentina has never lost and has always gone on to win the tournament. Just before they lost to Germany in the tournament's title game in 2014, they last participated in it. And I still have a bad feeling about Croatia playing Argentina since it may be Messi's last stop, just like it was for Ronaldo. Portugal never expected to lose to Morocco, and Morocco really played well after scoring one goal before switching to the defensive.

[kotwica666]

Whenever they make it to the World Cup final four, Argentina has never lost and has always gone on to win the tournament. Just before they lost to Germany in the tournament's title game in 2014, they last participated in it. And I still have a bad feeling about Croatia playing Argentina since it may be Messi's last stop, just like it was for Ronaldo. Portugal never expected to lose to Morocco, and Morocco really played well after scoring one goal before switching to the defensive.

I expect Argentina and France to reach the finals of the 2022 Qatar World Cup. Because they have enough potential to secure victory in the semi-finals. However, a France win against Morocco will be very easy to secure. On the other hand, it will be difficult for Argentina to secure a win against Croatia, as the team defeated Brazil and they have a lot of good players in their team.

[Unknown01]

I'm not sure about Argentina now honestly. Because Croatia have the potential to do the same thing they did to Brazil. They can just park the bus and defend Argentina players hard. Croatia manager knows what is coming for them so there is no meaning for them to play an offensive game. Their defensive tactics are already working for now. Argentina will need to break the lock of their defense as fast as possible. If they get unlucky just as Brazil when they find big chances, then they might be in big trouble.

Match results are uncertain now with the "dark horses" making their way to the semi-finals. Croatia may well do what you're saying and wait for their time to counter. It's amazing how teams could keep the ball 70% to 80% of the time and still fail to score. Argentina may be a different team but who knows what's going to happen.

I honestly want either Croatia or Morocco win the Finals because that would be a historic moment for both countries and FIFA.

I'm happy about the advancement of Croatia & Morocco. In general, football is evolving and even smaller nations have a chance to beat favorites like Brazil with modern strategies and tactics. I currently see all 4 candidates as having a chance of winning the World Cup and I would like the underdogs to win.

[rhomelmabini]

Whenever they make it to the World Cup final four, Argentina has never lost and has always gone on to win the tournament. Just before they lost to Germany in the tournament's title game in 2014, they last participated in it. And I still have a bad feeling about Croatia playing Argentina since it may be Messi's last stop, just like it was for Ronaldo. Portugal never expected to lose to Morocco, and Morocco really played well after scoring one goal before switching to the defensive.

Croatia was a former contender especially in the last World Cup in 2018, they're not to be ignored but my take this time will be for Argentina to win and reach Final to play with the former champion France. I believe these two has the potential to grab that trophy and if Messi do win it, what a great legacy to end his career.

[CLS63]

I'm really sad to see that England are out of the World Cup already now. I really believed in them to make it to the finale and I even bet on their championship at the end. It's still not coming home I'm afraid. They have a great squad full of talented players but they just can't make it. Kane's second penalty was really crucial for reviving their hopes. But it was such a bad shot going wide over the crossbar. Mbappe even laughed at it after the penalty.

It was a deserved win for France of course. They made a good effort. They didn't depend completely on Mbappe and this helped them stay solid as a team.

[sana54210]

We need to be realistic and admit that Brazil has the best players in the world, but they obviously don't have the best team.
Very good individuals don't necessarily make a very good team, and this has now been shown in the case of Brazil.
Brazil has been winning so far thanks to the great individual quality of its players, but against Croatia, for the first time, they encountered a worthy opponent, with a great midfield and good organization of the game, who found a way to stop their football dance.
In today's modern football, great individuals no longer win, but national teams that have a better organized team and team spirit, as well as a good organization and game plan.

That is very true, and very true for some clubs as well. We have seen teams who built amazing rosters and still lose a lot as well, because they didn't know what to do with all that superstars. Eventually if you keep them then you figure it out, like for example on early days of second los galacticos period of Real madrid where they got the pepes and ramos and ronaldo etc etc, they ended it with 3 UCL wins in a row right?

But the early days of that wasn't as good, Barcelona dominated them, from a team that they built from youth setup basically. This shows that great players all together do not go well together at all times, requires time and national teams don't have that time.

[Gozie51]

I'm really sad to see that England are out of the World Cup already now. I really believed in them to make it to the finale and I even bet on their championship at the end. It's still not coming home I'm afraid. They have a great squad full of talented players but they just can't make it. Kane's second penalty was really crucial for reviving their hopes. But it was such a bad shot going wide over the crossbar. Mbappe even laughed at it after the penalty.

It was a deserved win for France of course. They made a good effort. They didn't depend completely on Mbappe and this helped them stay solid as a team.

It was a well deserved winning for France and like everybody know that kane would have allowed other team mate to come for the kick but he went for it. Well I wasn't even expecting England to beat France. England have not had the opportunity to lift the world cup for a longtime despite the stars they come with to the world cup, so I'm not surprised that they are out of the world cup.

[lalabotax]

Sadly, Portugal was also beaten and Ronaldo could not realize his dream in the last World Cup for him. ...

There's no proof if Ronaldo have said this is his last World Cup, although he's currently at 37 years old and the next world cup he will turn be 41 years old, don't forget Ibrahimovic is still playing for AC Milan while he's currently 41 years old. Ronaldo has a strict lifestyle and he's trying to make his body strong everytime, actually he could join the next world cup since it's still possible.

Here it is:
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/fifa-world-cup/news/ronaldo-out-of-fifa-world-cup-qatar-2022-last-dream-ended-advisor-morocco-vs-portugal/article66252297.ece
This is what he said. We don't know that probably he will change his mind or not, but, this is what he said about Qatar World Cup.

Morocco's luck won't last long, it's similar like Saudi Arabia who can beat Argentina in the group phase. France will definitely win this match.

I am not sure that the victory of Marocco so far is only lucky. They have been here in the semi finals and this is not only about luck like what ahppen to Saudi Arabia against Argentina. If this is like what you said, Marocco should have been lost when on the group stage. This is not just a luck, this is the strong and big efforts that they have made so far. Maybe you also need to read this:

Morocco are yet to concede a goal from an opposing player in this tournament; the lone goal they conceded was an own goal vs Canada in the group stage.

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Can this be said as luck?
If this is related to the match between Marocco vs France later, this is still unpredictable. France is a very strong team and they are the previous defending World Cup champion. It will be a very tough game for any club against France. Moreover, they are strong on all lineups. And they always play consistently and are very excellent in every match. There is no doubt about their performance.

[crzy]

I'm really sad to see that England are out of the World Cup already now. I really believed in them to make it to the finale and I even bet on their championship at the end. It's still not coming home I'm afraid. They have a great squad full of talented players but they just can't make it. Kane's second penalty was really crucial for reviving their hopes. But it was such a bad shot going wide over the crossbar. Mbappe even laughed at it after the penalty.

It was a deserved win for France of course. They made a good effort. They didn't depend completely on Mbappe and this helped them stay solid as a team.

It was a well deserved winning for France and like everybody know that kane would have allowed other team mate to come for the kick but he went for it. Well I wasn't even expecting England to beat France. England have not had the opportunity to lift the world cup for a longtime despite the stars they come with to the world cup, so I'm not surprised that they are out of the world cup.

France is indeed the favorite team to win the title again so there’s no doubt about this and beside they play better against England and that penalty kick was not enough to beat France. Though both team did a great job, its just that France wanted this more and now they will face the unexpected team which might put them on another risk, France should double their hard work for the semis.

[DaNNy001]

Whenever they make it to the World Cup final four, Argentina has never lost and has always gone on to win the tournament. Just before they lost to Germany in the tournament's title game in 2014, they last participated in it. And I still have a bad feeling about Croatia playing Argentina since it may be Messi's last stop, just like it was for Ronaldo. Portugal never expected to lose to Morocco, and Morocco really played well after scoring one goal before switching to the defensive.

I expect Argentina and France to reach the finals of the 2022 Qatar World Cup. Because they have enough potential to secure victory in the semi-finals. However, a France win against Morocco will be very easy to secure. On the other hand, it will be difficult for Argentina to secure a win against Croatia, as the team defeated Brazil and they have a lot of good players in their team.

We all expected many things from the onset of the world cup and boy have we seen alot. The Qatar world cup has been a very surprising and special one in so many ways that we have enjoyed and am still expecting a lot of drama from the remaining games in this world cup. My only dissapointment is my goat going out in the quarter finals by the Moroccans and with all this experiences i dont think i am expecting any thing less from this world cup, we might actually see the likes of Morocco going all the way to the final and winning the trophy.

France are a good side and are the current world champions and they are also hoping to set a record by the winning the trophy back to back and with this current team they have they can actually do it but it won't easy same thing applies to the Argentina squad with messi hopping to securing the world cup to his great feat of personal achievements

[gagux123]

We need to be realistic and admit that Brazil has the best players in the world, but they obviously don't have the best team.
Very good individuals don't necessarily make a very good team, and this has now been shown in the case of Brazil.
Brazil has been winning so far thanks to the great individual quality of its players, but against Croatia, for the first time, they encountered a worthy opponent, with a great midfield and good organization of the game, who found a way to stop their football dance.
In today's modern football, great individuals no longer win, but national teams that have a better organized team and team spirit, as well as a good organization and game plan.

Yes, u are right!
I believe that Brazil only has Neymar as an elite player and one of the best in the world, another example, Portugal only has Cristiano Ronaldo.
It's not that Croatia is a team with hight quality like Brazil, the crucial point is that the whole Croatian team played well, it was the whole team, they had chemistry and knew how to manage the game and made few mistakes, we can say that they did what "basics" of football, but well done.

A few minutes after Neymar's goal, he shouted several times to his teammates, "don't move forward, let's pass the ball more and hold the game"

Some players did not listen what Neymar said,  several players from Brazil were on the attack, Croatia managed to intercept the ball and performed the counterattack, most of the players from Brazil were on the attack, they were unable to return and with that error, Croatia scored, tying the game

This was a grotesque mistake of brazilian team, and Croatia took advantage of this opportunity and managed to tie the game! Totally merit of the Croatian team.

Another example that illustrates very well what you said is the Germany team in the 2014 World Cup.
Brazil could have Neymar, Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo or Argentina could have Messi, but only Germany had a real team, in which the defense, midfield and attack worked very well and worked like a formidable team.

[decodx]

I really agree with you for Croatia and Argentina , I have full support on Croatia team. Croatia players are good, they will beat Argentina the way they beat Brazil. Croatia defense is strong that was why Brazil could not just penetrate to score.

Agbe bro, why don't you fix the poll in your thread then? You didn't include Croatia to play in the final. And, besides that, you put the option France vs Morocco, which is impossible because these two teams are playing each other in the semi-finals. Please fix it so we can vote properly.

[Hamza2424]

Probably there some other threads to relevant to the FIFA as far i know last week i did a post on some of the injuries report in thread that was something new but this thread is pretty active too. Well anyways in last few Matches there were too many yellow cards i don't know why refferes offer them on discount. Its coming to end up the tournament lets see what it brings.

[Tumanggor]

Really think it is difficult for football fans all over the world including England. England has performed well in this World Cup, all the players in the team have played with responsibility. Maybe England could have secured the semi-final, if Harry Kane had been able to score the second penalty goal.

it's really a shame that harry Kane didn't finish the second penalty he made well, but that's not something I should blame him for. as far as I see England doesn't have a good coach. I know Saka is an agile winger but it would be better if he put Sterling as a starter instead of Saka

this world cup is a valuable experience for England, they must be able to put good players where they should be

[JoyMarsha]

This was the last World Cup for Cristian Ronaldo, even the player left the field with very moving tears, I think the Portuguese coach was not quite right to include Cristian Ronaldo in the second half, consciously or not Seleccao das Quinas quite needed Cristian Ronaldo's presence on the field, because it has the potential to make opposing players will make a double defense to guard it.

The worst error Portugal's coach made was not playing Ronaldo during the first half. How could you start the game without starting Ronaldo when you know full well how his presence will affect Morocco's defense

Ronaldo has given Portugal's national team his all. We are aware of his prior contributions to their victories. He's not at his best right now since he's receiving criticism from people all over the world.

His decision to finish his football career in this way is very tragic. The effect he had and the history he contributed to football will go on forever.