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December 02, 2022, 05:00:09 AM
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I lost bet for this.
Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.
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As a result of Thursday's 0-0 draw with Croatia, Belgium was eliminated from the World Cup. Luka Modric leads Croatia, the runner-up from 2018, into the World Cup attempting a deep run. Belgium has a lot of club stars, but none of them are active internationally. It is a pity that this generation has left nothing behind, but perhaps their next generation will do better. There is a serious need for a reboot for teams like Belgium. This World Cup they looked rusty, a change of setup is needed. For them, the next four years will be crucial.

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December 02, 2022, 05:15:21 AM
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The reason of these surprises is the growth and improvement of African and Asian countries in football that's why they are competing and winning matches against strong European countries . This world cup has changed the shape and picture of football world  as new teams have emerged and made their places in football.
Exactly, several people have realized this.

It seems that over time these teams do not have a tradition in football are standing out, it is clear, with each passing year they are improving and have become competitive teams.
An example is Japan, I believe they surprised the whole world. Literally people speculated that he was going to be a weak team, but that didn't happen, Japan beat Germany and Spain who are classic teams and maybe even one of the best teams in the world.

I'll be following the game of Japan vs Croatia. I have no doubts that Japan will be able to win and advance in this world cup.

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December 02, 2022, 05:22:17 AM
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Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.

Why blame the older players? The one who missed the maximum chances is Romelu Lukaku. There is a meme-fest going on in Twitter, tagged #Lukaka (and quite deservingly so). Not saying that Kevin De Bruyne or Eden Hazard were any better, but as a whole the team failed to perform during this world cup. And the biggest joke is that a few months back, Belgium used to be the no.1 team as per the FIFA World Rankings. This also shows the inaccuracies within the ranking system. FIFA needs to work on this.

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December 02, 2022, 05:40:37 AM
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I lost bet for this.
Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.
Why blame the older players? The one who missed the maximum chances is Romelu Lukaku. There is a meme-fest going on in Twitter, tagged #Lukaka (and quite deservingly so). Not saying that Kevin De Bruyne or Eden Hazard were any better, but as a whole the team failed to perform during this world cup. And the biggest joke is that a few months back, Belgium used to be the no.1 team as per the FIFA World Rankings. This also shows the inaccuracies within the ranking system. FIFA needs to work on this.

Belgium's main weakness was the poor bonding between their players. Their match strategy was not good. The coach could not perform his duties properly. So the players as well as their coach are responsible for such a bad result of Belgium. At the same time, Lukaku can certainly be blamed for Belgium's poor performance. He missed an easy opportunity. Missing an easy chance in a do-or-die match makes winning the match difficult. One of the reasons for Belgium's performance today was the poor performance of the forward players.

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December 02, 2022, 07:27:08 AM
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The reason of these surprises is the growth and improvement of African and Asian countries in football that's why they are competing and winning matches against strong European countries . This world cup has changed the shape and picture of football world  as new teams have emerged and made their places in football.
Exactly, several people have realized this.

It seems that over time these teams do not have a tradition in football are standing out, it is clear, with each passing year they are improving and have become competitive teams.
An example is Japan, I believe they surprised the whole world. Literally people speculated that he was going to be a weak team, but that didn't happen, Japan beat Germany and Spain who are classic teams and maybe even one of the best teams in the world.

I'll be following the game of Japan vs Croatia. I have no doubts that Japan will be able to win and advance in this world cup.
Another reason Asian and African countries have managed to qualify for the round of the last 16 and managed to beat a strong European team is because they realize they are facing a very strong team, so they put all their energy and focus in every match, plus their fans are also aware of facing a European team very difficult, so the fans don't want to burden the players, the fans never criticize the players, even though they lost when they faced European teams, while European teams always looked at teams from Asia and Africa as weak, maybe because of that factor the European team was eliminated from the world cup.

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December 02, 2022, 08:11:26 AM
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I lost bet for this.
Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.
Croatia is a good team likewise Belgium. And I was thinking that Belgium would beat Croatia and fuck their style up but football is not what we think of it, the outcome in most times is the opposite. Best players also missed Penalties and best teams also loss. So betting became uncertainty. I was sorry for the lost.
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December 02, 2022, 08:16:34 AM
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I lost bet for this.
Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.
The world cup this time is difficult to predict and it is also difficult to choose the right bet. There were rumors that De Bruyne, Hazard and Vertonghen had argued and caused a commotion, as professional players they should have set a good example for the next generation of players, it looked like their mentality was very bad and they had no motivation to qualify for the next phase.

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The world cup this time is difficult to predict and it is also difficult to choose the right bet. There were rumors that De Bruyne, Hazard and Vertonghen had argued and caused a commotion, as professional players they should have set a good example for the next generation of players, it looked like their mentality was very bad and they had no motivation to qualify for the next phase.

These commotions normally happens when things doesn't go as per the plan. A few months ago, during the Euro Cup there was some infighting among the French players as well. But then, the team management makes sure that everything gets resolved quickly and the news doesn't get leaked in to the media. What happened this time is that some of the unhappy players leaked the information to the press. Even before their match against Croatia, there was disagreement within the Belgian camp regarding selection of some of the players.

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December 02, 2022, 11:31:22 AM
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The world cup this time is difficult to predict and it is also difficult to choose the right bet. There were rumors that De Bruyne, Hazard and Vertonghen had argued and caused a commotion, as professional players they should have set a good example for the next generation of players, it looked like their mentality was very bad and they had no motivation to qualify for the next phase.
World Cup ended for Belgium and those players and we must wait for a few weeks to get confirmation for the rumors. Because initially we only knew it is rumor, we should not believe rumor is true. It can be or can not be true and before having confirmation, we should consider it as piece of information.

Internal conflict or not, finally Belgium did not have a good World Cup and their team will havd big change which started a resignment of their coach. Not sure some star players will resign from their team too.

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December 02, 2022, 11:37:29 AM
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Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.

Belgium had problems within their team, there was some dissension within the Belgian squad and Roberto Martinez was unable to contain the discord. one of them is a statement from De Bruyne, that they side with old players who move slowly and lack motivation.

I don't agree with his statement, if he was a professional player he shouldn't have made that statement. almost all Belgian players play in the big European leagues, they don't have intense meetings, there is no strong bonding between the players, let alone chemistry. and how we see his two matches, against Canada and Morocco. Belgium's game pattern is really messy, without having a strong bond from the players. Likewise against Croatia, how they struggled in the first half, almost no shots on target, and how when Lukaku entered the second half in 46 minutes. Belgium had more chances, and unfortunately Lukaku couldn't convert every chance he had into a goal. so yes, it's natural that they don't have good coordination, the result is no solid teamwork. and in the end, Belgium came home early from this world cup.

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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.
Germany deserved to leave the tournament at the group stage. The German team is missing some key elements, in order to be competitive against France and Brazil, who are the big favorites for winning the World Cup.

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There were rumors that De Bruyne, Hazard and Vertonghen had argued and caused a commotion, as professional players they should have set a good example for the next generation of players, it looked like their mentality was very bad and they had no motivation to qualify for the next phase.
You could see that there was a problem between them, when Hazard play on second half and Bruyne gave the captain bracelet to Hazard he tried to communicate but Hazard immediately left him, made worse by Lukaku who missed some good chances it's a shame rare playing at the club has affected his performance so much, so we have to pay enough attention to all possibilities when betting on the World Cup this time but all bets like that will be unexpected.

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December 02, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.
Germany deserved to leave the tournament at the group stage. The German team is missing some key elements, in order to be competitive against France and Brazil, who are the big favorites for winning the World Cup.
I kind of believe what you’re saying about Spain losing on purpose. Because at halftime, the two central defenders for spain made at least 90 complete passes with over 100 touches of the ball. It appear to me Luiz Enrique didn't want to attack after the goal. Seems like he was avoiding a win. They’re simply avoiding to play Croatia. They want to play Morocco and with what I have seen so far, Morocco might shock them in the round of 16.
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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.
Germany deserved to leave the tournament at the group stage. The German team is missing some key elements, in order to be competitive against France and Brazil, who are the big favorites for winning the World Cup.
I kind of believe what you’re saying about Spain losing on purpose. Because at halftime, the two central defenders for spain made at least 90 complete passes with over 100 touches of the ball. It appear to me Luiz Enrique didn't want to attack after the goal. Seems like he was avoiding a win. They’re simply avoiding to play Croatia. They want to play Morocco and with what I have seen so far, Morocco might shock them in the round of 16.

Well, I never thought of that. As a Croatian I'm looking forward to my team not playing against Span. They kicked us out of the Euro 2020 and I didn't want to see that happening again. I'm not sure that Spain should be afraid of Croatia but who knows. Maybe you are right. However, Morocco is also a pretty good team. They beat Belgium 2-0 and rightfully won the group stage. If Spain lost intentionally, maybe it could backfire and they will lose to Morocco.

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December 02, 2022, 12:19:50 PM
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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.
Germany deserved to leave the tournament at the group stage. The German team is missing some key elements, in order to be competitive against France and Brazil, who are the big favorites for winning the World Cup.
but I don't think that they lost on purpose so they could face Morocco in the round of the last 16, of course all teams want to qualify as group winners and Spain really couldn't beat Japan who played superior in this match.
japan implemented the same strategy as in their initial match against Germany.

This will be difficult to predict in Japan's match against Croatia because in terms of quality Croatia is superior but Japan has now proven itself that they have developed and are much better, I think all possibilities are still possible to happen.
Likewise with Spain who will face Morocco, both of them have the same chance to qualify for the next round.



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December 02, 2022, 01:10:02 PM
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These commotions normally happens when things doesn't go as per the plan. A few months ago, during the Euro Cup there was some infighting among the French players as well. But then, the team management makes sure that everything gets resolved quickly and the news doesn't get leaked in to the media. What happened this time is that some of the unhappy players leaked the information to the press. Even before their match against Croatia, there was disagreement within the Belgian camp regarding selection of some of the players.

Yes, I have also heard about the news, fortunately the French players were able to quickly forget about this problem and focus on the main goal of competing in the world cup 2022 and in the end they progressed smoothly to the round of 16.

World Cup ended for Belgium and those players and we must wait for a few weeks to get confirmation for the rumors. Because initially we only knew it is rumor, we should not believe rumor is true. It can be or can not be true and before having confirmation, we should consider it as piece of information.

Internal conflict or not, finally Belgium did not have a good World Cup and their team will havd big change which started a resignment of their coach. Not sure some star players will resign from their team too.

The world cup this time is really the last for the Belgian golden generation and that also makes it the worst world cup they got. Even though there have been many out there who have favored Belgium to advance to the quarter-finals, but in fact that won't materialize and you have to go home early in the group stage.

You could see that there was a problem between them, when Hazard play on second half and Bruyne gave the captain bracelet to Hazard he tried to communicate but Hazard immediately left him, made worse by Lukaku who missed some good chances it's a shame rare playing at the club has affected his performance so much, so we have to pay enough attention to all possibilities when betting on the World Cup this time but all bets like that will be unexpected.


We can't avoid that moment is where they don't get along anymore. These Belgian players are no longer able to adapt together and I hope that the new coach will find a good solution for the Belgian Red Devils team. Lukaku was indeed very careless and could not take advantage of the opportunities that existed, it seems that when that happened De Bruyne was already getting frustrated with Lukaku's poor performance.

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December 02, 2022, 01:23:47 PM
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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.
Germany deserved to leave the tournament at the group stage. The German team is missing some key elements, in order to be competitive against France and Brazil, who are the big favorites for winning the World Cup.
I kind of believe what you’re saying about Spain losing on purpose. Because at halftime, the two central defenders for spain made at least 90 complete passes with over 100 touches of the ball. It appear to me Luiz Enrique didn't want to attack after the goal. Seems like he was avoiding a win. They’re simply avoiding to play Croatia. They want to play Morocco and with what I have seen so far, Morocco might shock them in the round of 16.
it was luiz enrique tactic in staring at opponents in the next round and it seems he succeeded in doing it because spain will face morocco in the round of 16.  but I didn't mention that Spain played unprofessionally, which means they gave in on purpose but Japan did look better in that match. even though spain dominated possession but they failed to make the final solution a goal. Morocco also cannot be underestimated in the round of 16 because they have been quite consistent in this world cup by managing to make big surprises. but in terms of the quality of the players, I think Spain will have an easy road in the round of 16.  For today's match, we will soon witness Portugal against South Korea, where in this match I support Portugal to be the winner.

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December 02, 2022, 01:39:54 PM
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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.

Spain didn't only avoid facing Croatia in the 16 round, they also avoided facing Brazil which is the biggest candidate to be the winner of this WC. Watching the table, if Spain surpassed Morocco, the most probable competitor in the quarter final is Portugal, while it is Brazil for Croatia in case they threw Japan out.

Morocco is also a pretty good team. They beat Belgium 2-0 and rightfully won the group stage. If Spain lost intentionally, maybe it could backfire and they will lose to Morocco.

I hope Morocco will do something against Spain, but their celebration after Canada's match implies they have reached their highest ambition by moving to the 16 round. However, this tournament looks to be full of surprises.

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December 02, 2022, 02:08:17 PM
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I lost bet for this.
Goodbye Belgium, their golden generation was over now. it's perfectly aligned like De bruyne said, that they were sided by old players who slowly move and don't have motivation. In fact, they are meet which team who filling up by the oldest player Modric, but they can't see that fact to be better, Now they are only perfect in their club but can't work together on a team. Maybe their next generation make it better, because a problem team is only coordination, the skill team is not different with another big team.
sorry for your loss, I already thought that the result of this match would be a draw and I won this match but in the second half I was worried that Belgium would score but unfortunately there were many opportunities that were not used properly from Lukaku's header and shot which almost scored and made me lost the bet, but thanks for that because I was able to win the bet in this match

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December 02, 2022, 02:21:17 PM
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Embarrassing game for Spain against Japan. Rumors say that the Spanish team lost deliberately, so that they could finish at the second place in their group and face Morocco at the round of 16. Shame on them. I really hope that Spain will be kicked out of the tournament at the quarterfinals. Croatia vs. Japan would be interesting, but I bet that the Croatian team would reach the quarterfinals.
Germany deserved to leave the tournament at the group stage. The German team is missing some key elements, in order to be competitive against France and Brazil, who are the big favorites for winning the World Cup.
I kind of believe what you’re saying about Spain losing on purpose. Because at halftime, the two central defenders for spain made at least 90 complete passes with over 100 touches of the ball. It appear to me Luiz Enrique didn't want to attack after the goal. Seems like he was avoiding a win. They’re simply avoiding to play Croatia. They want to play Morocco and with what I have seen so far, Morocco might shock them in the round of 16.

Well, I never thought of that. As a Croatian I'm looking forward to my team not playing against Span. They kicked us out of the Euro 2020 and I didn't want to see that happening again. I'm not sure that Spain should be afraid of Croatia but who knows. Maybe you are right. However, Morocco is also a pretty good team. They beat Belgium 2-0 and rightfully won the group stage. If Spain lost intentionally, maybe it could backfire and they will lose to Morocco.
Spain can't lose intentionally, and they are one of the best to win this year's world cup. From what I see so far, France, Brazil and Spain are my first three teams to play the semi-final, any other team could join to make it four. It is after this that I don't know how things would play out yet. And with the current fixture, Croatia will not meet Spain yet, but the team will do extra work for them to beat a strong team like Japan on Monday.

However, I should easily win a bet on Spain winning Morroco on Tuesaday. 

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