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July 04, 2022, 11:46:07 PM
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I agree, Italy didn't deserve to play in the world cup because they played badly in the world cup qualifiers.
In their matches, there were a lot of bad luck, unused penalties, missed opportunities to score, but in the end, if you can't achieve the desired result, you don't deserve success.
They were excellent at the last European Championship and became European champions, but it seems that their magic has been lost since then  Grin
The time has probably come for the rejuvenation of the Italian national team and a new beginning.
In that case it might be true, they need to make Regeneration now.
Even though some of them are young players, there are still some who in my opinion are too old for them, such as Chielini and several other players who are over 31 years old and above.
Even if their performance still shows something good but still this will only make them complacent and inhibit regeneration there.
I believe some matches are fixed and some things are already decided. Even Italy played bad in qualifying rounds but they are managing to play the tournament.
But let's see how they play the important matches. But I believe portugal and Germany will reach the final.
not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

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July 05, 2022, 01:36:57 AM
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~snip~
I believe some matches are fixed and some things are already decided. Even Italy played bad in qualifying rounds but they are managing to play the tournament.
But let's see how they play the important matches. But I believe portugal and Germany will reach the final.
not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.
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Messi will clearly want to win this world cup, so I'm sure Argentina will be playing their A game. But Brazil has a great team and they're just so good that it's hard not to see them in the final or at least semi finals really...

But then you also have Germany, and Spain, which are just fantastic teams. Man, it's going to be an amazing world cup. Such a shame that Italy didn't manage to qualify. But that's soccer, you never know what will happen.

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July 05, 2022, 02:58:32 AM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.

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July 05, 2022, 07:19:35 AM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.

@Rabi3 without any substantial proof we can only speculate about matches being fixed, but coming back to reality I do agree that Brazil has a big chance of winning this World Cup. @Sithara007 I feel that Argentina may not reach the finals, because they’re going to rely heavily on Messi and after shifting to PSG he isn’t performing like he used to when he was playing for Barcelona.
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July 05, 2022, 07:23:42 AM
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For me actually, it is not a very big surprise because Italy has not been doing well recently and I am not going to say that there did not deserve to play in the world cup but they have also not been playing like a team that deserves to play in the world cup. And I also agree that they have been really unlucky in some cases. But whatever you say they cannot just concede a goal at that time of the match against Macedonia.
I agree, Italy didn't deserve to play in the world cup because they played badly in the world cup qualifiers.
In their matches, there were a lot of bad luck, unused penalties, missed opportunities to score, but in the end, if you can't achieve the desired result, you don't deserve success.
They were excellent at the last European Championship and became European champions, but it seems that their magic has been lost since then  Grin
The time has probably come for the rejuvenation of the Italian national team and a new beginning.
Italy was out of last world cup which was surely disappointing for millions but as they fight back in UEFA and won there were hopes now things are going positive for them, and they could be able to fight back, and we will have them in this world cup, but sadly we miss again them with their poor performance and some bad luck as well because they were no able to perform good against few teams and lost their spot second time in a row which is surely another big disappointment for their fans around the world.

Surely they are missing their magic with having some good performance in UEFA but poor in World Cup Qualifiers which are giving them shock again and again now it's good time for them to start their program for next qualifier and try to join because it's surely good and entertaining for all soccer fans.

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July 05, 2022, 09:06:41 AM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.

@Rabi3 without any substantial proof we can only speculate about matches being fixed, but coming back to reality I do agree that Brazil has a big chance of winning this World Cup. @Sithara007 I feel that Argentina may not reach the finals, because they’re going to rely heavily on Messi and after shifting to PSG he isn’t performing like he used to when he was playing for Barcelona.


last season messi didn't stand out so much playing for PSG this time maybe it's different even though messi didn't carve a champion league trophy for SPG but he will totally play with argentina maybe this is his last game in the world cup event. Same thing as Brazil I think these two countries will rely heavily on the two mega stars Messi and Neymar, what's interesting is Germany I think Germany will qualify for the semifinals seeing some of their strikers are very sharp in scoring goals.

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July 05, 2022, 12:40:09 PM
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last season messi didn't stand out so much playing for PSG this time maybe it's different even though messi didn't carve a champion league trophy for SPG but he will totally play with argentina maybe this is his last game in the world cup event. Same thing as Brazil I think these two countries will rely heavily on the two mega stars Messi and Neymar, what's interesting is Germany I think Germany will qualify for the semifinals seeing some of their strikers are very sharp in scoring goals.

It's too much pressure for Messi, I don't think he will manage to do it.

Last chance to win the World Cup pretty much. He has done an amazing career, but still hasn't been able to win the world cup. And I'm not sure he'll be able to deliver this time. He's not Maradona.

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July 05, 2022, 01:02:59 PM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.
Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
In Europe, we have serious trouble with weather for many teams specially from South America which give good advantage to European teams, and they were able to qualify for semi-finals without any team from South America but now here in Qatar no advantage for any team as most probably weather conditions are going to favor all teams or may be more suitable for South America instead of Europeans so here competition is tough and Argentina and Brazil both can do much better than Russia 2018.

Currently, mostly European teams are unpredictable and have no momentum which is going with Brazil and Argentina, so I am feeling these two and France and Germany can go into last four.
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July 05, 2022, 01:59:57 PM
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In that case it might be true, they need to make Regeneration now.
Even though some of them are young players, there are still some who in my opinion are too old for them, such as Chielini and several other players who are over 31 years old and above.
Even if their performance still shows something good but still this will only make them complacent and inhibit regeneration there.
I believe some matches are fixed and some things are already decided. Even Italy played bad in qualifying rounds but they are managing to play the tournament.
But let's see how they play the important matches. But I believe portugal and Germany will reach the final.
What do you mean by playing a tournament? Italy have now been knocked out of the world cup competition and they will only be spectators for now.
Germany and Portugal are good teams but I don't understand why you are so sure about this especially for now there are still some big teams and more likely to have big chances like Brazil there.
Portugal in their qualifiers are so difficult that indeed if they are in a tough group then it will be difficult for them.

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last season messi didn't stand out so much playing for PSG this time maybe it's different even though messi didn't carve a champion league trophy for SPG but he will totally play with argentina maybe this is his last game in the world cup event. Same thing as Brazil I think these two countries will rely heavily on the two mega stars Messi and Neymar, what's interesting is Germany I think Germany will qualify for the semifinals seeing some of their strikers are very sharp in scoring goals.

It's too much pressure for Messi, I don't think he will manage to do it.

Last chance to win the World Cup pretty much. He has done an amazing career, but still hasn't been able to win the world cup. And I'm not sure he'll be able to deliver this time. He's not Maradona.
No World Cup can ever be won by relying on one player. So I think if Argentina rely on Messi alone, they will have to give up the hope from the World Cup. Everyone's concentration is needed there. Everyone has to play well. There is a lot of pressure on those who are good players. In that case, most of the time the result will not be good if those players are given extra pressure.

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July 05, 2022, 11:16:44 PM
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No World Cup can ever be won by relying on one player. So I think if Argentina rely on Messi alone, they will have to give up the hope from the World Cup. Everyone's concentration is needed there. Everyone has to play well. There is a lot of pressure on those who are good players. In that case, most of the time the result will not be good if those players are given extra pressure.

I think that's why Maradona is still called D10S (God). It was probably one of the few players in the history of football that actually could win a world cup on his own.

Messi doesn't have that level. We'll see what happens in this world cup, it's probably his last chance to show the world that he can actually do it. It's only a matter of time to see it now.

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July 06, 2022, 12:35:41 AM
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No World Cup can ever be won by relying on one player. So I think if Argentina rely on Messi alone, they will have to give up the hope from the World Cup. Everyone's concentration is needed there. Everyone has to play well. There is a lot of pressure on those who are good players. In that case, most of the time the result will not be good if those players are given extra pressure.

True, I still don't understand why people are talking so much about one or another player as if they were responsible for winning the Fifa cup.
In the case of Argentina, this is even more "relevant".

This year I'm very confident in Brazil, as they achieved extraordinary results in the rankings playing with a team of new players, still unknown and with different formations in each game, all without Neymar.

A good team is the one who will win this cup, I hope.

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last season messi didn't stand out so much playing for PSG this time maybe it's different even though messi didn't carve a champion league trophy for SPG but he will totally play with argentina maybe this is his last game in the world cup event. Same thing as Brazil I think these two countries will rely heavily on the two mega stars Messi and Neymar, what's interesting is Germany I think Germany will qualify for the semifinals seeing some of their strikers are very sharp in scoring goals.

It's too much pressure for Messi, I don't think he will manage to do it.

Last chance to win the World Cup pretty much. He has done an amazing career, but still hasn't been able to win the world cup. And I'm not sure he'll be able to deliver this time. He's not Maradona.
Maradona was not Messi either. The most important cup missing in Messi's career is the World Cup, and a Messi who will do his best to win it will be a player we will see in this tournament. This tournament will also be important for Messi and Ronaldo. They will both participate in this tournament as the last tournament and both of them want to win this cup more than enough. I must say that Argentina has a better squad than Portugal. If I had a choice between the two, it would be Argentina.

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July 06, 2022, 06:04:20 AM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
Brazil and Argentina have good momentum only on their continent. Nobody knows how they will play against European teams. I watched the qualifiers and these two favourites are definitely good, but the other teams have shown poor quality football. I think it might be a consequence of the pandemic. That's why Argentina and Brazil are only good on paper so far.

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July 06, 2022, 08:54:12 PM
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Maradona was not Messi either. The most important cup missing in Messi's career is the World Cup, and a Messi who will do his best to win it will be a player we will see in this tournament. This tournament will also be important for Messi and Ronaldo. They will both participate in this tournament as the last tournament and both of them want to win this cup more than enough. I must say that Argentina has a better squad than Portugal. If I had a choice between the two, it would be Argentina.
There is no doubt Messi is a great player, and he needs to win World Cup but sadly right now their team is still missing few things which are more important to win World Cup only one player can't do this with this right now Argentina is having not enough firepower which is needed for title.

If I have choice then surely I am not going with them for this world cup because we have more teams which are enough tough and have better firepower to win this year's title specially Brazil is also having good lineup with Germany and France are also strong enough even it's all having some good time but with current situation I have feeling Messi is going to retire from soccer without this prestigious title.

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July 06, 2022, 08:58:41 PM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
Brazil and Argentina have good momentum only on their continent. Nobody knows how they will play against European teams. I watched the qualifiers and these two favourites are definitely good, but the other teams have shown poor quality football. I think it might be a consequence of the pandemic. That's why Argentina and Brazil are only good on paper so far.

It is only a matter of time before Argentina becomes world champion. I have to say that that is only possible if Messi is part of the team. I don't see a potential successor waiting for him. What many people forget is that Argentina was close in 2014, when they reached the final of the world championship but lost to Germany. And the Netherlands? They have already reached the final 3 times and lost every time. France and Brazil will surely feel a lot of pressure, especially Brazil because the last World Cup title dates back to 2002. 20 years ago.

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July 07, 2022, 02:31:34 PM
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Here are the groups for the World Cup:



The Final will have one team from the top row and one from the bottom row.

This means that the final for the World Cup 2022 can actually be Brazil vs Argentina, both teams have been defeated zero times so far.

That would be an incredible final.

Yes, I am sure that many predictions, many parlays will have those finals that will be heart-stopping, it is possible that this is the case, because both teams are very well prepared, and want to make history, also everyone thinks of Messi, of CR7, but very few they are acknowledging what Neymar Jr does, and this player cannot go unnoticed, he is a very complete player, in addition to everything that has happened, it is possible that he already has a very professional maturity and commitment to his team, it was discussed a lot of him when he was at Santos in Brazil, after he went to Barcelona the fever towards him decreased, it is said that Real Madrid contacted him by his manager and the call with Florentino Pérez lasted less than 1 minute, so they speculate through the networks, if this player surprises, I think that Brazil will continue to be the King.

not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.
Brazil and Argentina have good momentum only on their continent. Nobody knows how they will play against European teams. I watched the qualifiers and these two favourites are definitely good, but the other teams have shown poor quality football. I think it might be a consequence of the pandemic. That's why Argentina and Brazil are only good on paper so far.

It is only a matter of time before Argentina becomes world champion. I have to say that that is only possible if Messi is part of the team. I don't see a potential successor waiting for him. What many people forget is that Argentina was close in 2014, when they reached the final of the world championship but lost to Germany. And the Netherlands? They have already reached the final 3 times and lost every time. France and Brazil will surely feel a lot of pressure, especially Brazil because the last World Cup title dates back to 2002. 20 years ago.
I would like to see the Netherlands reach the final and win it, the closest that was to achieve it was Roben, and I remember how the clockwork orange was giving everything, but I think that what the Netherlands has lacked is a lot of luck It would be something new and deserving for them, but one thing is what they deserve and another thing is that they achieve it, we cannot forget the other teams that have an arsenal and are very good and come out eager to succeed.

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July 07, 2022, 02:39:31 PM
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I would like to see the Netherlands reach the final and win it, the closest that was to achieve it was Roben, and I remember how the clockwork orange was giving everything, but I think that what the Netherlands has lacked is a lot of luck It would be something new and deserving for them, but one thing is what they deserve and another thing is that they achieve it, we cannot forget the other teams that have an arsenal and are very good and come out eager to succeed.
The Netherlands currently has a very high motivation here, especially now that it looks like they are back to finding their long lost form.
In the qualification they looked like a team that was really ready in any case, they even established themselves as the most productive team in the 2022 World Cup qualification for the European zone with 33 goals there, so there is a big chance for them to be in the world cup this time.

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Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run. European teams might be seen as bigger favourites for the title too but this time I expect Argentina and Brazil both to be very competitive. One of them has the potential of making it to the final match. That one is likely to be Brazil for me.
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Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run. European teams might be seen as bigger favourites for the title too but this time I expect Argentina and Brazil both to be very competitive. One of them has the potential of making it to the final match. That one is likely to be Brazil for me.
Now they are trying to bounce back after on several occasions they were never able to play well in the world cup and a big chance emerged with their performance which was quite good in qualifying
But the problem is that even if they are seeded, there are always doubts for them at the World Cup, especially with a qualified squad they always fail to win there.

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