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July 15, 2022, 01:59:22 AM
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So to answer @Sithara007, CONMEBOL teams have a chance of 63.3% of qualifying to World Cup which is x2 European teams chances and x3.5 at least the rest of the world chances which is ridiculous and unfair imo regarding that this competition is dintended to allow most countries of the world get a chance to qualify and play internationally vs other teams in different continents. Otherwise, UEFA could pick 22 best teams + 10 CONMEBOL ones and they form Bi-Continental Cup that would way better to watch than current World Cup.
What makes WC (World Cup Roll Eyes ) good is when you see surprises and weaker teams advance instead of favourite bigger ones.

It is unfair to the CONMEBOL teams given their quality. They are a hundred times better than any of the AFC or CAF teams. Do you really think that the top teams from AFC, such as Saudi Arabia, China and South Korea would stand a chance against the weakest teams from CONMEBOL (Bolivia, Venezuela.etc)? Anyway, I am OK with the current allocation, in which 6 teams come from CONMEBOL and 16 from the UEFA. Other confederations still have 26 slots between them and there is no point in complaining.

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July 15, 2022, 12:36:00 PM
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If I remember correctly, the expansion of the number of participants is carried out mainly not by increasing the number of teams from Europe, but by increasing the number of teams from other regions. Therefore, although the situation will improve, there will still be a chance that several very strong teams from Europe will not get into the final part. And the fact that interest in the tournament is falling is obvious to everyone except officials. There is no point in watching most group games, they are completely pointless.

Europe's representation is being increased by +3. So you can't really say that UEFA is being ignored during the expansion. A total of 16 new slots are created and out of that 3 is from Europe. I believe that it is fair. But CONMEBOL got a very unfair deal. They are the strongest confederation out there and for them, the increase is just +1.5. For the 2026 World Cup, there will be 6 teams from CONMEBOL. I would have liked at least 7 teams from that confederation. Everytime, a number of strong teams from South America miss out on qualification. 

I don’t see anything fair in this (adding Europe 3 teams while the rest of the world gets 13), the situation will become even worse than it was - the last team from Europe (which did not make it to the championship, roughly 17th in strength) will still be stronger than all the teams from some regions (which did make it to the championship). That's bullshit. I want to see the final part of the World Championship as a serious competition and not as an international festival.
And I also hate the format of the qualifying tournament in Africa when the teams are forced to play a knockout match. This guarantees that 50% of the strongest teams will be eliminated from the tournament. I think the selection system should be changed here.

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July 15, 2022, 07:12:22 PM
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The team that I hope a lot is from Japan, I don't know but since Japan had those legendary players I really liked their way of playing, I don't know if they remember Nakata, and from that spectacular World Cup that was in France 98, in fact they had such star players at the time that they made the iconic Nike commercial.

Japan may not have much chance against giants like Germany or Spain, but anything is possible in football. Despite never advancing past the Round of 16 at a World Cup, Japan is a strong contender to go one step further this time. And with players with Premier League experience, like Takumi Minamino and Takehiro Tomiyasu, Japan may have a chance.

The World Cup has produced many of the most enduring football heroes of the modern era, and Japan's Minamino or Tomiyasu may well join them.

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July 15, 2022, 07:23:49 PM
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For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.

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July 15, 2022, 09:33:19 PM
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The team that I hope a lot is from Japan, I don't know but since Japan had those legendary players I really liked their way of playing, I don't know if they remember Nakata, and from that spectacular World Cup that was in France 98, in fact they had such star players at the time that they made the iconic Nike commercial.
Japan may not have much chance against giants like Germany or Spain, but anything is possible in football. Despite never advancing past the Round of 16 at a World Cup, Japan is a strong contender to go one step further this time. And with players with Premier League experience, like Takumi Minamino and Takehiro Tomiyasu, Japan may have a chance.

The World Cup has produced many of the most enduring football heroes of the modern era, and Japan's Minamino or Tomiyasu may well join them.
In recent time we have good development in Japan but still they are not good enough for competing against tough teams from Europe and South America because recently I was watching one match against Costa Rica which they lost badly because they were far ahead from them in quality but still good things happening, and they are taking good experience from UEFA clubs and many players are giving their best with in next world cup they are in tough group where they have few chances but still as we all know any result is possible on match day.

In last few years, we have only two teams which are on well development in AFC and these are Japan and South Korea, third is Australia, but these all need some good time for having good future in this game.

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July 15, 2022, 09:40:56 PM
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For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.
In this World Cup, it is clear that Brazil is one of the favorite countries again after several times they have always been excluded.
Their performance was absolutely insane in the qualifiers which made them the top seed and I also actually give high hopes to Brazil considering that with their current players the performance they aim for in the qualifiers will add to their popularity in the title contenders.

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July 16, 2022, 12:54:43 AM
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For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.

In fact, I'm also rooting for a final between Brazil and a European team... there are several interesting candidates, but I'd like to see him face France, Portugal or England.
Of course, a final between Brazil and Argentina would be classic and very interesting, but Brazil lost to Argentina in the Conmebol America Cup, and I wouldn't like to see that happen again in the FIFA world cup.

Finally... I hope Brazil doesn't face Germany, because the memory of him losing 7x1 still gives me nightmares.

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July 16, 2022, 03:39:27 AM
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I don’t see anything fair in this (adding Europe 3 teams while the rest of the world gets 13), the situation will become even worse than it was - the last team from Europe (which did not make it to the championship, roughly 17th in strength) will still be stronger than all the teams from some regions (which did make it to the championship). That's bullshit. I want to see the final part of the World Championship as a serious competition and not as an international festival.
And I also hate the format of the qualifying tournament in Africa when the teams are forced to play a knockout match. This guarantees that 50% of the strongest teams will be eliminated from the tournament. I think the selection system should be changed here.

Well.. somewhere you need to find a balance. Both the factors need to be considered. Stronger teams needs to qualify, and at the same time there should be adequate representation from all the geographies. In my previous posts, one of the options that I put forward was to have a global qualifying system for the second phase, rather than the confederation-based tournaments. The first set of 32 teams can be selected from the region-based qualifiers. But for the remaining 16 teams, there should be a global qualifier tournament. This will make sure that only the stronger teams get qualification.

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July 16, 2022, 12:08:21 PM
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For the World Cup title, I wonder how much Brazil and Argentina are going to determined. I have a big expectation from Brazil especially. They have started to impress me quite a lot. They have one of the best squads in this tournament. The thing they need the most is having a solid game plan for the biggest tournament in the world. It would be nice to see them in the final playing against a European team for the title.
In this World Cup, it is clear that Brazil is one of the favorite countries again after several times they have always been excluded.
Their performance was absolutely insane in the qualifiers which made them the top seed and I also actually give high hopes to Brazil considering that with their current players the performance they aim for in the qualifiers will add to their popularity in the title contenders.
Brazil is always favorite in World Cup even they are having not good performance in last 2 decades, so maybe this is trap or bookmakers tactics like we have from them in Champions League every year three teams at top with hot favorite tag even these teams not reaching into final, but they are eating good money for this all.

There is no doubt Brazil is one of the most amazing team in soccer history, and they produced few extraordinary players in this game, but recently they are having no class like past which is surely a concern for them but now in this event too much talk happening about them which is having something special about them with most chances European are going to dominant in last two decades and this year again they have few good teams.

Brazil and Argentina are tough challengers for them and from these two any team can reach into final and won this event its possibility.

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July 16, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
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Brazil and Argentina are tough challengers for them and from these two any team can reach into final and won this event its possibility.

Brazil seems to come this year with a good squad. although it is very difficult to see Brazil's past performances return. because football is growing quite rapidly in Europe and Asia.
this year my favorite is still Brazil. because I've always been a Brazil fan. although disappointed in the form a few events ago. but in Qatar, they bring great hope.


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July 16, 2022, 12:56:45 PM
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I don’t see anything fair in this (adding Europe 3 teams while the rest of the world gets 13), the situation will become even worse than it was - the last team from Europe (which did not make it to the championship, roughly 17th in strength) will still be stronger than all the teams from some regions (which did make it to the championship). That's bullshit. I want to see the final part of the World Championship as a serious competition and not as an international festival.
And I also hate the format of the qualifying tournament in Africa when the teams are forced to play a knockout match. This guarantees that 50% of the strongest teams will be eliminated from the tournament. I think the selection system should be changed here.

Well.. somewhere you need to find a balance. Both the factors need to be considered. Stronger teams needs to qualify, and at the same time there should be adequate representation from all the geographies. In my previous posts, one of the options that I put forward was to have a global qualifying system for the second phase, rather than the confederation-based tournaments. The first set of 32 teams can be selected from the region-based qualifiers. But for the remaining 16 teams, there should be a global qualifier tournament. This will make sure that only the stronger teams get qualification.

Do you mean an all-against-all tournament with the possibility that, for example, all these 16 places will be occupied by teams from Europe (if they are better than the rest of the teams)? Maybe it would be a good compromise and I would follow such a tournament with more interest than the final part.

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July 16, 2022, 01:22:08 PM
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Brazil and Argentina are tough challengers for them and from these two any team can reach into final and won this event its possibility.

Brazil seems to come this year with a good squad. although it is very difficult to see Brazil's past performances return. because football is growing quite rapidly in Europe and Asia.
this year my favorite is still Brazil. because I've always been a Brazil fan. although disappointed in the form a few events ago. but in Qatar, they bring great hope.

I assume you are referring to Brazil's very poor performance at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and the disastrous loss to Germany in the semi-finals or the fact that Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years?
Personally, I see Brazil, along with France, as the main favorite for the title at the world championship in Qatar.
However, at this world championship, there are still plenty of high-quality and strong national teams such as England, Germany, Belgium, Argentina etc. and a very uncertain competition awaits us.
The team that is most ready to withstand a very difficult and strenuous competition will win.

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Brazilians and the world Cup are five and six.
They have always taken the tournament very very serious.
I see it's the reason why they have won more of it than anyone.
The current squad are ready and determined to win. Argentina also wants to do it for Messi.
France are also having a solid squad but they won't get the world Cup

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July 16, 2022, 02:49:05 PM
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Brazilians and the world Cup are five and six.
They have always taken the tournament very very serious.
I see it's the reason why they have won more of it than anyone.
The current squad are ready and determined to win. Argentina also wants to do it for Messi.
France are also having a solid squad but they won't get the world Cup
Yes Brazil have good record in winning the world,  they have done very well in the past. But this time I don't think Brazil can win the world the Cup , not even Argentina. This time if care is not taking it might go for England,  the England team have strong tough squad to won the world cup.
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July 16, 2022, 03:29:36 PM
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Brazil and Argentina are tough challengers for them and from these two any team can reach into final and won this event its possibility.

Brazil seems to come this year with a good squad. although it is very difficult to see Brazil's past performances return. because football is growing quite rapidly in Europe and Asia.
this year my favorite is still Brazil. because I've always been a Brazil fan. although disappointed in the form a few events ago. but in Qatar, they bring great hope.

I assume you are referring to Brazil's very poor performance at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and the disastrous loss to Germany in the semi-finals or the fact that Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years?
Personally, I see Brazil, along with France, as the main favorite for the title at the world championship in Qatar.
However, at this world championship, there are still plenty of high-quality and strong national teams such as England, Germany, Belgium, Argentina etc. and a very uncertain competition awaits us.
The team that is most ready to withstand a very difficult and strenuous competition will win.

It is natural that no team can win the title for three or four consecutive years because the World Cup itself is only held once every four years, so even though Brazil have not won a World Cup title in the last 20 years it is something that is natural. Even so far only Italy and Brazil can win the World Cup title in two successive World Cup titles, but about the Qatar World Cup I think there are several teams that have a chance to win the title and it's not only Brazil. Because the previous title winning team France still has a good squad too in this World Cup, so yes Brazil is not the only best team at this moment.

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July 16, 2022, 03:58:31 PM
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I assume you are referring to Brazil's very poor performance at the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and the disastrous loss to Germany in the semi-finals or the fact that Brazil has not been a world champion for 20 years?
Personally, I see Brazil, along with France, as the main favorite for the title at the world championship in Qatar.
However, at this world championship, there are still plenty of high-quality and strong national teams such as England, Germany, Belgium, Argentina etc. and a very uncertain competition awaits us.
The team that is most ready to withstand a very difficult and strenuous competition will win.



Brazil's crushing defeat of Germany in the 2014 World Cup certainly shocked football lovers. By the way, the World Cup which will be held in Qatar in terms of quality, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, will be the group winners on paper. although in the match later all teams have the potential to beat the big teams. Brazil is a superior team with many quality players, but I have another perspective, I believe Brazil will be knocked out in the semi-finals, I prefer Argentina to meet France in the final.  This is just a prediction, it doesn't determine what will happen, we can enjoy every match that will be held later while betting.

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July 16, 2022, 04:58:03 PM
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Brazilians and the world Cup are five and six.
They have always taken the tournament very very serious.
I see it's the reason why they have won more of it than anyone.
The current squad are ready and determined to win. Argentina also wants to do it for Messi.
France are also having a solid squad but they won't get the world Cup

From this 3 teams that you said France is the best by far by quality . For me they are one of the main favorites i dont think that either Argentina or Brazil will reach the final. Brazil might have won the title most of the times but that dosent mean they are favorites always.

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July 16, 2022, 07:22:25 PM
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Brazilians and the world Cup are five and six.
They have always taken the tournament very very serious.
I see it's the reason why they have won more of it than anyone.
The current squad are ready and determined to win. Argentina also wants to do it for Messi.
France are also having a solid squad but they won't get the world Cup
From this 3 teams that you said France is the best by far by quality . For me they are one of the main favorites i dont think that either Argentina or Brazil will reach the final. Brazil might have won the title most of the times but that dosent mean they are favorites always.
Here I agree with you about France they are at their best and can defend their title without any big trouble but with it's very long time for CONMEBOL not having any good result and this time their both teams are also in very strong shape which is going to create some trouble for European contenders because both are going at place where weather is also not problem for them even this can create problem for Europeans specially Central European countries.

But, most of the other continent teams will be in good shape because this all is favoring them as well which is also big advantage for them with this most chances Brazil and Argentina can perform better and can go through for title.

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July 16, 2022, 08:19:35 PM
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Brazilians and the world Cup are five and six.
They have always taken the tournament very very serious.
I see it's the reason why they have won more of it than anyone.
The current squad are ready and determined to win. Argentina also wants to do it for Messi.
France are also having a solid squad but they won't get the world Cup

From this 3 teams that you said France is the best by far by quality . For me they are one of the main favorites i dont think that either Argentina or Brazil will reach the final. Brazil might have won the title most of the times but that dosent mean they are favorites always.
In this case, even though France are quite good in terms of players at the moment, in my opinion it is still quite risky. We can see their poor performance in the league of nations although many people say that this is not a reference but still this can still be used as a benchmark, especially with their strategy which I think currently Deschamps still can't find a good formula there.

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July 16, 2022, 09:14:15 PM
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France and Brazil are the absolute favorites among the bookmakers. In any case, France has achieved something in recent years by becoming world champions. But Brazil? They haven't done anything for a long time. At least not at the World Cup. The last overall victory dates back to 2002! 20 years ago already. The final must have been around this time today. It is clear that Brazil still has great players. But you often see that they do not function fully as a team and you see that more and more in other countries. Brazil is so strong individually that you don't always have to be good as a team. Players like Neymar can decide matches on their own.

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