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July 07, 2022, 11:48:02 PM
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not just some matches, if you think some are fixed then I would assume most of them are, it's like they gave Italy the Euro but they had to not qualify for the world cup, anyways the final you mentioned with Portugal and German seems tough to happen, I'm expecting a Latin team to win the world cup this year since it's been 19 years when the last one won it which was Brazil, they are the favourites for me unless Argentina made a surprise.

Last time (2018), the world cup was held in Russia and none of the CONMEBOL teams managed to qualify to the semi-finals. France, Belgium, Croatia and England managed to find a spot in the semis and all these teams were from the UEFA (Brazil and Uruguay were kicked out during the QF stage). It is clear that weather played its part in 2018. But this time, that won't be the case, since the weather in Qatar will be very mild during November-December. Also, both Brazil and Argentina have the momentum at this point.

@Rabi3 without any substantial proof we can only speculate about matches being fixed, but coming back to reality I do agree that Brazil has a big chance of winning this World Cup. @Sithara007 I feel that Argentina may not reach the finals, because they’re going to rely heavily on Messi and after shifting to PSG he isn’t performing like he used to when he was playing for Barcelona.
If I would ever get a chance to ask from world famous Messi or Ronaldo than the only question would be -- do you know all the Soccer fans want you to play like super heros in every match. Do you have that on your mind while playing and how do you cope up when you are unable to perform well in an match. After all they are human too. Smiley

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July 08, 2022, 12:14:07 AM
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If I would ever get a chance to ask from world famous Messi or Ronaldo than the only question would be -- do you know all the Soccer fans want you to play like super heros in every match. Do you have that on your mind while playing and how do you cope up when you are unable to perform well in an match. After all they are human too. Smiley

We are talking about two of the most experienced footballers and I don't think that they can be put under pressure. They have been playing at the highest level for almost two decades and by now they can handle pressure better than anyone else. But the expectation from fans will be there as a burden. These players do have superhuman status in front of the eyes of football fans and sometimes people forget that they are human and are prone to making mistakes. But this tournament is very important for them, because it is going to be the last world cup for both these players.

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We are talking about two of the most experienced footballers and I don't think that they can be put under pressure. They have been playing at the highest level for almost two decades and by now they can handle pressure better than anyone else. But the expectation from fans will be there as a burden. These players do have superhuman status in front of the eyes of football fans and sometimes people forget that they are human and are prone to making mistakes. But this tournament is very important for them, because it is going to be the last world cup for both these players.
And I believe both of them would give their best in this tournament - they would want to end their sports carrier on a good note. For a top player what an idea end of the career if the they end it by winning a world cup. Ronaldo and Messi both are rock stars - - Best of luck to both of them. Let's see which of them picks up the trophy.

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And I believe both of them would give their best in this tournament - they would want to end their sports carrier on a good note. For a top player what an idea end of the career if the they end it by winning a world cup. Ronaldo and Messi both are rock stars - - Best of luck to both of them. Let's see which of them picks up the trophy.

Winning the world cup for their homelands is not going to be easy at this point, when they are about to retire. But I am sure that both the players will give their best. Messi is more fortunate, as he is in a well balanced team. That is not the case with Ronaldo. His team is overdependent on him and there will be a lot of pressure. But still, I would love to see either Messi or Ronaldo winning the world cup for their respective teams. These two are legendary players and they deserve the trophy this time. But only one team can be the winner. 

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Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run.
I disagree with this, Netherlands have not been excellent for a long time now and i do not consider them to have made any big progress nor to have any potential in the world cup this year, they do not have any chance of winning it, as for a successful run, i doubt that too, they will surely make it out of the group stage having being paired in the same group with hosts Qatar, Ecuador and Senegal, but after the group stages and into the round of 16, i feel Netherlands would crash out at that stage.

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July 08, 2022, 08:28:15 PM
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Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run.
I disagree with this, Netherlands have not been excellent for a long time now and i do not consider them to have made any big progress nor to have any potential in the world cup this year, they do not have any chance of winning it, as for a successful run, i doubt that too, they will surely make it out of the group stage having being paired in the same group with hosts Qatar, Ecuador and Senegal, but after the group stages and into the round of 16, i feel Netherlands would crash out at that stage.
We all know in last few years few European teams are on decline, and they are not competing fully in World cup but still with their quality and skills we can expect challenge from them for strong contenders in this world cup. Even I am also not sure about The Netherlands chance of wining this event but still they can give us very good entertainment because they have few very good players and their performance is also increasing.

Their group is not strong enough so most chances they could be in top 16 after this can they go through or crashed this is big question but no one can ignore them, and they are capable of reaching into last four.

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July 08, 2022, 09:26:54 PM
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Netherlands seem like a team that have made big progress in time now. They have a nice potential in the World Cup. Maybe they wouldn't be the winner of the title at the end but they would still have a successful run.
I disagree with this, Netherlands have not been excellent for a long time now and i do not consider them to have made any big progress nor to have any potential in the world cup this year, they do not have any chance of winning it, as for a successful run, i doubt that too, they will surely make it out of the group stage having being paired in the same group with hosts Qatar, Ecuador and Senegal, but after the group stages and into the round of 16, i feel Netherlands would crash out at that stage.

Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best

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Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best

Surprising.. IMO, Netherlands deteriorated during the recent years. They were one of the top teams during the time of Frank Rijkaard, Patrick Kluivert, Edwin van der Sar, Frank de Boer and Marc Overmars. A few years later they had Ruud van Nistelrooy, Rafael van der Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Arjen Robben and Robin van Persie. Now they don't have any player of that calibre. They didn't even qualified for the world cup in 2018. And in terms of FIFA ranking, Netherlands have been outside top-10 ever since 2014.

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Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best

Surprising.. IMO, Netherlands deteriorated during the recent years. They were one of the top teams during the time of Frank Rijkaard, Patrick Kluivert, Edwin van der Sar, Frank de Boer and Marc Overmars. A few years later they had Ruud van Nistelrooy, Rafael van der Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Arjen Robben and Robin van Persie. Now they don't have any player of that calibre. They didn't even qualified for the world cup in 2018. And in terms of FIFA ranking, Netherlands have been outside top-10 ever since 2014.
But the Netherlands even though it still doesn't have big names like its predecessors, but the Netherlands is starting to develop now. At least now the Netherlands has names like Matthijs de Ligt, Virgil van Dijk, Steven Bergwijn, Daley Blind, Georginio Wijnaldum, Frenkie de Jong and also Memphis Depay. Although their quality is still not as good as their senior players in the Netherlands but at least, the Netherlands has managed to recover and of course I believe that the Netherlands will be a great team in the world cup.

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yes you are right, the performance of the netherlands has declined from year to year until the time of robin van persie, the netherlands have never won the world cup title. It's a shame, even though I really idolized this team from the days of Dennis Bergkamp and Van Nistelrooy. None of the prestigious events have been won by the Netherlands, as far as I remember the Netherlands was last entered in the 2010 final and was awarded the title of champion without a crown. (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't expect many Dutch squads to qualify for the semi-finals in the Qatar Cup.

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yes you are right, the performance of the netherlands has declined from year to year until the time of robin van persie, the netherlands have never won the world cup title. It's a shame, even though I really idolized this team from the days of Dennis Bergkamp and Van Nistelrooy. None of the prestigious events have been won by the Netherlands, as far as I remember the Netherlands was last entered in the 2010 final and was awarded the title of champion without a crown. (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't expect many Dutch squads to qualify for the semi-finals in the Qatar Cup.

2010 FIFA World Cup at South Africa right ? ( Giggling ) They gave it them all, but Spain Triumph over Dutch National squad. One good thing I can recall was Andrea Inesta of the Spanish side taking of he's jersey to celebrate he's goal and afterwards carded ( Yellow Card ).
 That's the only game I watched during that World Cup.

2014 FIFA World Cup was pay back time ain't it ? ( Lmfao ) Sergio Ramos, most offensive and aggressively known defending player was embarrassed by Arjen Robben and couple with a blind pass from a blind player ( Daley Blind ) which he teed Robin Van Persie up for that Astonishing headed, Glorious ain't it ?

Ronald Koeman not good enough, they was Subpar during he's time as head Coach of the Dutch National team.

Louis Van Gaal! Currently head Coach of Netherland squad they're all youngins but haven't seen that zeal and ambition France had when they won the last FIFA World Cup. Football Is Beautiful 🥰

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July 09, 2022, 11:50:31 AM
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If I would ever get a chance to ask from world famous Messi or Ronaldo than the only question would be -- do you know all the Soccer fans want you to play like super heros in every match. Do you have that on your mind while playing and how do you cope up when you are unable to perform well in an match. After all they are human too. Smiley

We are talking about two of the most experienced footballers and I don't think that they can be put under pressure. They have been playing at the highest level for almost two decades and by now they can handle pressure better than anyone else. But the expectation from fans will be there as a burden. These players do have superhuman status in front of the eyes of football fans and sometimes people forget that they are human and are prone to making mistakes. But this tournament is very important for them, because it is going to be the last world cup for both these players.

I'm not so sure about that.
It's not the same to play for Barcelona, Real, Juve or PSG, where you play with the best footballers in the world and everyone can solve the game, or to play in the national team where you have weaker teammates and everyone is waiting for you to do something on your own and solve the game.
Also, it's not the same to play for a club or for your national team, when you represent your nation.
I think that even Messi has a special pressure because all the fans in Argentina compare him to Maradona and until Argentina finally wins the title of world champion, Maradona will always be considered better and bigger than him.

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Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best
Most of the people in the forum trust that Brazil will pick up the trophy. While many members are vouching on Argentina.
However once the preliminary matches will start - people will get a clear picture of what shape the teams are in and it will be easy to decide where to make the bets.

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July 11, 2022, 11:59:54 AM
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If I would ever get a chance to ask from world famous Messi or Ronaldo than the only question would be -- do you know all the Soccer fans want you to play like super heros in every match. Do you have that on your mind while playing and how do you cope up when you are unable to perform well in an match. After all they are human too. Smiley

We are talking about two of the most experienced footballers and I don't think that they can be put under pressure. They have been playing at the highest level for almost two decades and by now they can handle pressure better than anyone else. But the expectation from fans will be there as a burden. These players do have superhuman status in front of the eyes of football fans and sometimes people forget that they are human and are prone to making mistakes. But this tournament is very important for them, because it is going to be the last world cup for both these players.

I'm not so sure about that.
It's not the same to play for Barcelona, Real, Juve or PSG, where you play with the best footballers in the world and everyone can solve the game, or to play in the national team where you have weaker teammates and everyone is waiting for you to do something on your own and solve the game.
Also, it's not the same to play for a club or for your national team, when you represent your nation.
I think that even Messi has a special pressure because all the fans in Argentina compare him to Maradona and until Argentina finally wins the title of world champion, Maradona will always be considered better and bigger than him.
There is definitely a difference when a player plays for a club and when a player plays for his country, and in matches and meetings the players are closer, and also play more in the club than the national team. And also can make a solid team and also understand each other's game.
and what i see with Messi when he plays for club and country has differences like lack of enthusiasm and also not good unlike at his club due to some factors, limited meetings and training and also there must be some players who are weak and this must be experienced by all country. In contrast to players who have the spirit of nationalism they will continue to play very well and defend their country.

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July 11, 2022, 12:45:58 PM
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There is definitely a difference when a player plays for a club and when a player plays for his country, and in matches and meetings the players are closer, and also play more in the club than the national team. And also can make a solid team and also understand each other's game.
and what i see with Messi when he plays for club and country has differences like lack of enthusiasm and also not good unlike at his club due to some factors, limited meetings and training and also there must be some players who are weak and this must be experienced by all country. In contrast to players who have the spirit of nationalism they will continue to play very well and defend their country.

Much depends on the status of the tournament. As the Nations Cup has shown, even star teams like France or England can act like they don't care at all about the outcome of games if the tournament isn't important.
As for Messi, in the last year in the national team, he looked better than in the club. Perhaps the environment (Barcelona) played a key role in his achievements. But football is a team game, so one cannot be completely sure of such conclusions.
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July 11, 2022, 02:22:46 PM
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Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best
Most of the people in the forum trust that Brazil will pick up the trophy. While many members are vouching on Argentina.
However once the preliminary matches will start - people will get a clear picture of what shape the teams are in and it will be easy to decide where to make the bets.
Here you have valid point right now we can't predict about any result because we have to wait for another four months and European soccer season is going to start after few weeks which can bring some good changes in many teams like injury or any other problem with player can play a key change in teams performance here right now with the talk about few teams we all believe Brazil is very strong team, and they have good chance to win this year's trophy but few teams which are not looking good can give shocking results as they have few quality players and this is big point for all teams and players.

With most of the talk look like European teams are enough strong and can dominant again this event like we are watching them in last two decades but for practical results we have to wait some time.

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July 11, 2022, 08:43:07 PM
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Here you have valid point right now we can't predict about any result because we have to wait for another four months and European soccer season is going to start after few weeks which can bring some good changes in many teams like injury or any other problem with player can play a key change in teams performance here right now with the talk about few teams we all believe Brazil is very strong team, and they have good chance to win this year's trophy but few teams which are not looking good can give shocking results as they have few quality players and this is big point for all teams and players.

With most of the talk look like European teams are enough strong and can dominant again this event like we are watching them in last two decades but for practical results we have to wait some time.
But the weather condition in Qatar will be very different from Europe. The weather is hot and dry and also that being an Islamic state will have so many bans particular on gambling, sex and alcohol. I am not sure if the players are allowed to consume alcohol but for the other people coming from far off countries it will be a challenge.

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July 11, 2022, 09:15:21 PM
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Netherlands might not win the title but they have improved for sure over the last 5-10 years. They werent seen on any big stage and now we can see them on World cup with a pretty solid team honestly. They score a lot of goals and their attack seems to be on of the best
Most of the people in the forum trust that Brazil will pick up the trophy. While many members are vouching on Argentina.
However once the preliminary matches will start - people will get a clear picture of what shape the teams are in and it will be easy to decide where to make the bets.
Here you have valid point right now we can't predict about any result because we have to wait for another four months and European soccer season is going to start after few weeks which can bring some good changes in many teams like injury or any other problem with player can play a key change in teams performance here right now with the talk about few teams we all believe Brazil is very strong team, and they have good chance to win this year's trophy but few teams which are not looking good can give shocking results as they have few quality players and this is big point for all teams and players.
With most of the talk look like European teams are enough strong and can dominant again this event like we are watching them in last two decades but for practical results we have to wait some time.

I believe we are talking about the World Cup. I think in this World Cup France is again going to have the superior squad as well as the highest chance of winning the trophy. Even though a lot of people are saying Argentina and Brazil will have a good chance, I honestly don't think that is the case. There are a few more strong teams compared to Argentina and Brazil. We obviously cannot forget about Croatia as well, because they were the finalist of the last World Cup. Even though the squad of Croatia has become a little old, I think they will be able to play just fine.

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July 11, 2022, 10:25:44 PM
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There is definitely a difference when a player plays for a club and when a player plays for his country, and in matches and meetings the players are closer, and also play more in the club than the national team. And also can make a solid team and also understand each other's game.
and what i see with Messi when he plays for club and country has differences like lack of enthusiasm and also not good unlike at his club due to some factors, limited meetings and training and also there must be some players who are weak and this must be experienced by all country. In contrast to players who have the spirit of nationalism they will continue to play very well and defend their country.
Much depends on the status of the tournament. As the Nations Cup has shown, even star teams like France or England can act like they don't care at all about the outcome of games if the tournament isn't important.
As for Messi, in the last year in the national team, he looked better than in the club. Perhaps the environment (Barcelona) played a key role in his achievements. But football is a team game, so one cannot be completely sure of such conclusions.

Any match is going to depend on the status of the tournament if that match is part of the tournament obviously. England and France did not take it seriously at all because I have no idea why they should be. I am sure that they will be able to play perfectly fine in the actual world cup and have no issue.

This is probably going to be the last World cup for Lionel Messi and I really want to see Argentina play well in this world cup. I really wanted to see a world cup in the hands of Lionel Messi but I know right now that is probably a little too much to ask for. so I am going to be realistic and not ask for the World Cup from Argentina but I would really like to see them at least reach the semi-finals.

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July 11, 2022, 10:48:14 PM
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Here you have valid point right now we can't predict about any result because we have to wait for another four months and European soccer season is going to start after few weeks which can bring some good changes in many teams like injury or any other problem with player can play a key change in teams performance here right now with the talk about few teams we all believe Brazil is very strong team, and they have good chance to win this year's trophy but few teams which are not looking good can give shocking results as they have few quality players and this is big point for all teams and players.

With most of the talk look like European teams are enough strong and can dominant again this event like we are watching them in last two decades but for practical results we have to wait some time.
But the weather condition in Qatar will be very different from Europe. The weather is hot and dry and also that being an Islamic state will have so many bans particular on gambling, sex and alcohol. I am not sure if the players are allowed to consume alcohol but for the other people coming from far off countries it will be a challenge.
Yeah ... this is the first time a world cup held in a strict islamic state right?

There would be a lot of different things that usually in a world cup the fans get their 100% entertainment through a sex pleasure and a direct gamble thing , it's pretty prohibited.
Unlike in the previous world cup series where casino are available to fill the spare time during the world cupa matchdays. Well it's a tough one for european .

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