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June 13, 2022, 06:28:17 PM
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Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

That's likely the case on why there's still no update about them, I know that both camps have agreed to have the fight at Las Vegas, Nevada where it's neutral for the both camps but this is still not sure as long as there's no official announcement and its details. Also, the date is very crucial to pick and both sides would have to agree with the specific month and exact day. As for money talks, I believe Crawford will take the 40% cut just to make the fight happen.

Anyway, aside from that, I found an article while browsing at the internet. Seems like the Legendary Mike Tyson is siding with Terence Crawford because of his experience and his IQ in the ring and also, he was basing his pick on how Crawford defeated Shawn Porter by a TKO while Spence finds himself with a 12 full round fight and won by SD.

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June 13, 2022, 11:56:32 PM
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Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

I agree with you. I even think this fight is now almost a deal but just a few things are being properly fixed before the official announcement.

In the first place, there's no other boxer that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence should fight but between the two of them. Even the majority of boxing analysts and known personalities are throwing their respective opinion that the fight should happen no matter what.

This is a fight that has no excuses or reason to delay or what. We will surely see this fight happening this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe they are not planning to hold it close to the date of one of the biggest fights also this year, the trilogy between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.

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June 14, 2022, 05:16:23 PM
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Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

I agree with you. I even think this fight is now almost a deal but just a few things are being properly fixed before the official announcement.

In the first place, there's no other boxer that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence should fight but between the two of them. Even the majority of boxing analysts and known personalities are throwing their respective opinion that the fight should happen no matter what.

This is a fight that has no excuses or reason to delay or what. We will surely see this fight happening this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe they are not planning to hold it close to the date of one of the biggest fights also this year, the trilogy between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.

There's no any near boxers near their league in Welterweight, people and the fans of the respective boxers have anticipated for this and now it's about to happen, just few more weeks and maybe we will see any updates or final announcement about its date and place. I reckon this fight will be the most interesting fight this year, two heavy boxers with clean record will fight to be the undisputed champion.

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June 15, 2022, 01:44:20 PM
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Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

I agree with you. I even think this fight is now almost a deal but just a few things are being properly fixed before the official announcement.

In the first place, there's no other boxer that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence should fight but between the two of them. Even the majority of boxing analysts and known personalities are throwing their respective opinion that the fight should happen no matter what.

This is a fight that has no excuses or reason to delay or what. We will surely see this fight happening this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe they are not planning to hold it close to the date of one of the biggest fights also this year, the trilogy between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.

There's no any near boxers near their league in Welterweight, people and the fans of the respective boxers have anticipated for this and now it's about to happen, just few more weeks and maybe we will see any updates or final announcement about its date and place. I reckon this fight will be the most interesting fight this year, two heavy boxers with clean record will fight to be the undisputed champion.
Yes, they are just above any of the Welterweight right now, Spence though has defeated a lot of top tier Welter and we can say that he has almost clean up the division except for one fighter and that is Crawford.

And so this is the biggest fight in this division, since the Floyd vs Manny, but the circumstances are different. And perhaps this could be the biggest fight of the year in terms of PPV numbers and the money being generated, maybe close with GGG vs Canelo.

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June 15, 2022, 03:46:28 PM
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And so this is the biggest fight in this division, since the Floyd vs Manny, but the circumstances are different. And perhaps this could be the biggest fight of the year in terms of PPV numbers and the money being generated, maybe close with GGG vs Canelo.

I'm not sure if it will be bigger than GGG vs Canelo fight, although this fight is way better than the latter, I think Canelo is very popular and could generate a lot of money for their fight. However, I believe it will still earn a decent revenue since Spence Jr. has a good number of PPV in his previous fights, and since it's an anticipated fight, that will surely improve.

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June 15, 2022, 04:15:17 PM
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Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

I agree with you. I even think this fight is now almost a deal but just a few things are being properly fixed before the official announcement.

In the first place, there's no other boxer that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence should fight but between the two of them. Even the majority of boxing analysts and known personalities are throwing their respective opinion that the fight should happen no matter what.

This is a fight that has no excuses or reason to delay or what. We will surely see this fight happening this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe they are not planning to hold it close to the date of one of the biggest fights also this year, the trilogy between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.

There's no any near boxers near their league in Welterweight, people and the fans of the respective boxers have anticipated for this and now it's about to happen, just few more weeks and maybe we will see any updates or final announcement about its date and place. I reckon this fight will be the most interesting fight this year, two heavy boxers with clean record will fight to be the undisputed champion.
Yes, they are just above any of the Welterweight right now, Spence though has defeated a lot of top tier Welter and we can say that he has almost clean up the division except for one fighter and that is Crawford.

And so this is the biggest fight in this division, since the Floyd vs Manny, but the circumstances are different. And perhaps this could be the biggest fight of the year in terms of PPV numbers and the money being generated, maybe close with GGG vs Canelo.

Can't deny about that, not perhaps because this will really be the biggest fight of the year and in terms of PPV revenue, this fight will indeed be grossing high after the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight and the venue will surely full packed by the fans of the respective boxers.

Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

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June 15, 2022, 07:49:06 PM
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And so this is the biggest fight in this division, since the Floyd vs Manny, but the circumstances are different. And perhaps this could be the biggest fight of the year in terms of PPV numbers and the money being generated, maybe close with GGG vs Canelo.

I'm not sure if it will be bigger than GGG vs Canelo fight, although this fight is way better than the latter, I think Canelo is very popular and could generate a lot of money for their fight. However, I believe it will still earn a decent revenue since Spence Jr. has a good number of PPV in his previous fights, and since it's an anticipated fight, that will surely improve.

There's a possibility that Spence-Crawford will be the biggest fight of this year, sure the trilogy of Canelo-GGG is also worth to watch but the interest of the fans were much lesser as time passed by and it's quite too late for this fight to have but since it will happen this September then for sure there's still some decent revenue coming from this fight but I believe not as much from Spence-Crawford PPV's combined and this is also an anticipated fight.

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Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

That is because  Terence Crawford never had a chance to compete with big names under Top Rank promotions which he always requested. Also, the fact that Spence is dodging Crawford because the latter thinks it's not worth his time. Spence on the other hand always got his preferred fight and make sure he will win all his title fights and that's what he is today claiming 3 Championship belts under WBC, IBF, and WBA as you have mentioned.

In Terence Crawford's fight history, the expected fight against Spence will be the biggest fight in his career. If he was able to unify all the Welterweight titles beating Spence if ever, Crawford will now begin to move up weight to extend some good credentials on his career. He has lots of targets if successfully defeated Spence in the process.
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And so this is the biggest fight in this division, since the Floyd vs Manny, but the circumstances are different. And perhaps this could be the biggest fight of the year in terms of PPV numbers and the money being generated, maybe close with GGG vs Canelo.

I'm not sure if it will be bigger than GGG vs Canelo fight, although this fight is way better than the latter, I think Canelo is very popular and could generate a lot of money for their fight. However, I believe it will still earn a decent revenue since Spence Jr. has a good number of PPV in his previous fights, and since it's an anticipated fight, that will surely improve.

I guess the argument for this is that we have been waiting for the two to fight. As compare to GGG vs Canelo which is the trilogy already, and then others says that GGG is way past his prime already.

But in this case, it's prime for prime boxers, no losses, and then a unification fight. I can't recall when is the last time we have a unification fight in the Welterweight division.

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Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

That is because  Terence Crawford never had a chance to compete with big names under Top Rank promotions which he always requested. Also, the fact that Spence is dodging Crawford because the latter thinks it's not worth his time. Spence on the other hand always got his preferred fight and make sure he will win all his title fights and that's what he is today claiming 3 Championship belts under WBC, IBF, and WBA as you have mentioned.

In Terence Crawford's fight history, the expected fight against Spence will be the biggest fight in his career. If he was able to unify all the Welterweight titles beating Spence if ever, Crawford will now begin to move up weight to extend some good credentials on his career. He has lots of targets if successfully defeated Spence in the process.

+1 on this, this is so true, Spence had the better opportunity to face champions because they all worked under the powerful boxing promoter in Al Haymon.

While Crawford is on the Top Rank banner and obviously can't make a decent fight because all of the good WW are under Al Haymon. But since he has separated from Top Rank, now we see that this fight can be made.

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Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

That is because  Terence Crawford never had a chance to compete with big names under Top Rank promotions which he always requested. Also, the fact that Spence is dodging Crawford because the latter thinks it's not worth his time. Spence on the other hand always got his preferred fight and make sure he will win all his title fights and that's what he is today claiming 3 Championship belts under WBC, IBF, and WBA as you have mentioned.

In Terence Crawford's fight history, the expected fight against Spence will be the biggest fight in his career. If he was able to unify all the Welterweight titles beating Spence if ever, Crawford will now begin to move up weight to extend some good credentials on his career. He has lots of targets if successfully defeated Spence in the process.

That's also why he decides to leave and didn't re-sign under the roof of the Top Rank Promotions after he fought and won against Shawn Porter. Bob Arum was just milking him too much without understanding his boxers as they too have boxers in my mind to help them in climbing the ladder. Now that he's a free agent, he can decide anything and will earn more without giving some cut to his promoters.

Are there any updates about this fight? Hopefully, they can announce it before the end of June.

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Bob Arum was just milking him too much without understanding his boxers as they too have boxers in my mind to help them in climbing the ladder. Now that he's a free agent, he can decide anything and will earn more without giving some cut to his promoters.

Great fighters like Crawford should leave promoters like Arum, look at what happened to Canelo he is on his own and can fight anybody, Crawford's road to greatness is to have a legacy fight like the Spence fight, he miss this chance, and he'll regret this for the rest of his lie.


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Are there any updates about this fight? Hopefully, they can announce it before the end of June.

I'm also hoping that we finally have a date and venue so we can stop speculating and erase our doubts that these two fighters are just taking us for a ride.

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Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

That is because  Terence Crawford never had a chance to compete with big names under Top Rank promotions which he always requested. Also, the fact that Spence is dodging Crawford because the latter thinks it's not worth his time. Spence on the other hand always got his preferred fight and make sure he will win all his title fights and that's what he is today claiming 3 Championship belts under WBC, IBF, and WBA as you have mentioned.

In Terence Crawford's fight history, the expected fight against Spence will be the biggest fight in his career. If he was able to unify all the Welterweight titles beating Spence if ever, Crawford will now begin to move up weight to extend some good credentials on his career. He has lots of targets if successfully defeated Spence in the process.

That's also why he decides to leave and didn't re-sign under the roof of the Top Rank Promotions after he fought and won against Shawn Porter. Bob Arum was just milking him too much without understanding his boxers as they too have boxers in my mind to help them in climbing the ladder. Now that he's a free agent, he can decide anything and will earn more without giving some cut to his promoters.

Are there any updates about this fight? Hopefully, they can announce it before the end of June.

I remember that time when Terence Crawford dropped a bomb to Bob Arum that he's moving forward with his career without him. Good for him that he addressed the issue in a live interview after the fight with Shawn Porter. Hopefully the fight will push through accordingly without any excuses before the fight.

I'm also waiting for the update of their match, hopefully, it should be targeted this 4th quarter of the year.
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Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

That is because  Terence Crawford never had a chance to compete with big names under Top Rank promotions which he always requested. Also, the fact that Spence is dodging Crawford because the latter thinks it's not worth his time. Spence on the other hand always got his preferred fight and make sure he will win all his title fights and that's what he is today claiming 3 Championship belts under WBC, IBF, and WBA as you have mentioned.

In Terence Crawford's fight history, the expected fight against Spence will be the biggest fight in his career. If he was able to unify all the Welterweight titles beating Spence if ever, Crawford will now begin to move up weight to extend some good credentials on his career. He has lots of targets if successfully defeated Spence in the process.

That's also why he decides to leave and didn't re-sign under the roof of the Top Rank Promotions after he fought and won against Shawn Porter. Bob Arum was just milking him too much without understanding his boxers as they too have boxers in my mind to help them in climbing the ladder. Now that he's a free agent, he can decide anything and will earn more without giving some cut to his promoters.

Are there any updates about this fight? Hopefully, they can announce it before the end of June.
Well that's what promoters did before Crawford, Bob Arum milk the hell out of Manny and when he lost, Manny has an excused not to sign with him.

And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all we are the one bringing the money for this top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

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And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all, we are the one bringing the money for these top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

We missed the 80's and 90's boxing where the best only meet the best now fighters within the same promotion are the ones fighting each other and they don't care about boxers from the other side, like what's happening to UFC and WWE where you cannot fight fighters from other promotions, that is bad for boxing, the boxing organizations should step and allow inter promotions so the best fighter will only fight the best.

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And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all, we are the one bringing the money for these top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

We missed the 80's and 90's boxing where the best only meet the best now fighters within the same promotion are the ones fighting each other and they don't care about boxers from the other side, like what's happening to UFC and WWE where you cannot fight fighters from other promotions, that is bad for boxing, the boxing organizations should step and allow inter promotions so the best fighter will only fight the best.

Inter promotion fights are not common these days unlike the 80's and 90's. The Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire fight was an inter promotion fight. They say Terrence Crawford have no promoter, this is an Errol Spence promoter opportunity to make a substantial offer.

There are positive and negative sides in today's boxing compared to UFC. Today's boxing popular boxers are receiving millions of dollars per fight unlike the UFC champions. But due to promotional matters there are struggles with inter promotion fights unlike the UFC where Dana White can decide everything accordingly.

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June 16, 2022, 07:13:08 PM
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Spence has the 3 belts (WBC, IBF, and WBA recently from defeating Ugas) so he has done more cleaning in this division than Crawford did because he only got the WBO belt since 2018.

That is because  Terence Crawford never had a chance to compete with big names under Top Rank promotions which he always requested. Also, the fact that Spence is dodging Crawford because the latter thinks it's not worth his time. Spence on the other hand always got his preferred fight and make sure he will win all his title fights and that's what he is today claiming 3 Championship belts under WBC, IBF, and WBA as you have mentioned.

In Terence Crawford's fight history, the expected fight against Spence will be the biggest fight in his career. If he was able to unify all the Welterweight titles beating Spence if ever, Crawford will now begin to move up weight to extend some good credentials on his career. He has lots of targets if successfully defeated Spence in the process.

That's also why he decides to leave and didn't re-sign under the roof of the Top Rank Promotions after he fought and won against Shawn Porter. Bob Arum was just milking him too much without understanding his boxers as they too have boxers in my mind to help them in climbing the ladder. Now that he's a free agent, he can decide anything and will earn more without giving some cut to his promoters.

Are there any updates about this fight? Hopefully, they can announce it before the end of June.
Well that's what promoters did before Crawford, Bob Arum milk the hell out of Manny and when he lost, Manny has an excused not to sign with him.

And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all we are the one bringing the money for this top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

I feel bad for Crawford because Bob Arum denied him to have a good future and legacy like Spence had experienced that's why the latter is holding 3 belts and Crawford has only one in his possession because of Arum being overprotective so that Crawford will always win to milk him as always. Top Rank Promotions is not as good anymore and they will be avoided by other boxers because they already know what Arum could bring and certainly that's not legacy.

On Davis part, he's already a freelancer after that fight against Romero. Tank managed to decide much earlier while he is still at his prime because he knows that his talent will be put to waste if he will be just with Mayweather.

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June 16, 2022, 09:04:35 PM
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And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all, we are the one bringing the money for these top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

We missed the 80's and 90's boxing where the best only meet the best now fighters within the same promotion are the ones fighting each other and they don't care about boxers from the other side, like what's happening to UFC and WWE where you cannot fight fighters from other promotions, that is bad for boxing, the boxing organizations should step and allow inter promotions so the best fighter will only fight the best.

Yes, that was a bad ass era, lots of great boxers facing each other without any question because of their machismo, they want to proved who is the best. But time has change, boxing is now control by few promoters and networks that they can control which fight is going to happen. And unless there are millions in the table, they are not willing to put the best boxers against each other.
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June 16, 2022, 09:22:33 PM
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And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all, we are the one bringing the money for these top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

We missed the 80's and 90's boxing where the best only meet the best now fighters within the same promotion are the ones fighting each other and they don't care about boxers from the other side, like what's happening to UFC and WWE where you cannot fight fighters from other promotions, that is bad for boxing, the boxing organizations should step and allow inter promotions so the best fighter will only fight the best.
Yes, that was a bad ass era, lots of great boxers facing each other without any question because of their machismo, they want to proved who is the best. But time has change, boxing is now control by few promoters and networks that they can control which fight is going to happen. And unless there are millions in the table, they are not willing to put the best boxers against each other.

That's true, especially if both fighters are popular just like these two boxers, this deserves millions of revenue. We all know that boxing is a business and entertainment, so we cannot just easily see a fight we wanted if the promoter does not see a potential to give him the income he expected.

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June 16, 2022, 09:34:27 PM
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And it seems this is also the way Tank Davis is going with his career, not to sign with Floyd and be a freelancer so that he can make his own fight. Fight that we fans deserved, after all, we are the one bringing the money for these top boxers so they understand if we didn't get the fight we wanted.

We missed the 80's and 90's boxing where the best only meet the best now fighters within the same promotion are the ones fighting each other and they don't care about boxers from the other side, like what's happening to UFC and WWE where you cannot fight fighters from other promotions, that is bad for boxing, the boxing organizations should step and allow inter promotions so the best fighter will only fight the best.
Yes, that was a bad ass era, lots of great boxers facing each other without any question because of their machismo, they want to proved who is the best. But time has change, boxing is now control by few promoters and networks that they can control which fight is going to happen. And unless there are millions in the table, they are not willing to put the best boxers against each other.

That's true, especially if both fighters are popular just like these two boxers, this deserves millions of revenue. We all know that boxing is a business and entertainment, so we cannot just easily see a fight we wanted if the promoter does not see a potential to give him the income he expected.

At least though, when Crawford decided to go out of Top Rank, this fight has been made. And there are no excuses, because we've heard that Arum doesn't want to have him fight Spence or Spence is afraid of Crawford or at least doesn't deserved a huge payment. But here we are, maybe in next month we will hear the fight's official announcement. As far as revenue goes, yes, this is the biggest fight, bigger than GGG vs Canelo.

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