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August 17, 2022, 01:39:40 PM
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I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 
We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

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August 17, 2022, 01:45:09 PM
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I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 
We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

There's probably a rematch clause on the contract and it depends on how things turn out in the first fight and the purse split could be very much different from the purse split in their first fight, I just feel it should be 50/50 as they are both champions but Spence having three belts is a big reason why he should have the edge and about the A-side, they are both on the A side but after the fight one of them will not be.

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August 17, 2022, 05:50:07 PM
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Ennis name though is cropping up, at least I heard Crawford talk about him, meaning he is all aware of what is going on in his division and maybe looking at the threat outside already, good sign of a well IQ boxer.

Because PBC is grooming Ennis as its next welterweight star. He is a good fighter with an excellent record of 29-0-27 but I feel like PBC is babying him. Unlike Butaev and Stanionis who only got 14 and 15 fights only but they already held the WBA regular belt and fought each other too. Vergil and Spence used to be friends as both came from Texas but there was a time that they had beef a few years ago but was settled later on. There were also talks about Vergil Ortiz and Bud Crawford before but it didn't materialize. I believe these 4 young stars will beat Thurman and maybe Crawford and Spence too after a year or two. That's why Bud and Spence should really fight this year and then they can move up in weight in order to fight the other big names.

Thanks for this info mate, seems to me that you are one of the walking vocabularies in boxing on this forum  Smiley.

I also think that Top Rank also has be blamed for why Crawford has not faced other big names in the welterweight division as for me they are babying him and not rushing him to fight the likes of Spence or Thurman but on the other hand, it might also have some advantages as hyping fighters will make more money in the end.

I noticed that too, @inthelongrun is really good when it comes to sports news in this forum as he always knows the latest trend or news. Grin

Bob Arum was the brainchild behind Crawford's situation because Bob indeed babysit the latter for quite a long time that's why Crawford just managed to grab one belt in the welterweight division but I'm also thinking that if I were Bob, maybe I did the same thing he did because maintaining your cow is really one of the best decision to do to keep the cash flowing but for the boxer's side, they always want legacy.

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August 17, 2022, 06:36:06 PM
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I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 
We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

There's probably a rematch clause on the contract and it depends on how things turn out in the first fight and the purse split could be very much different from the purse split in their first fight, I just feel it should be 50/50 as they are both champions but Spence having three belts is a big reason why he should have the edge and about the A-side, they are both on the A side but after the fight one of them will not be.

Both camps are intelligent enough to include a rematch clause in their deal because this is an undisputed fight and a once in a blue moon mega fight, also a rematch will only be interested to see if the fight will end up in a fair decision but if it's dominated by Spence or Crawford then I think that clause won't be enough to sell the fight big again. I really think that Crawford is already comfortable in his 40% share because of the facts that has been said above and Spence can bring more food to the table.

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August 17, 2022, 10:47:51 PM
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I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 
We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

There's probably a rematch clause on the contract and it depends on how things turn out in the first fight and the purse split could be very much different from the purse split in their first fight, I just feel it should be 50/50 as they are both champions but Spence having three belts is a big reason why he should have the edge and about the A-side, they are both on the A side but after the fight one of them will not be.

For sure there could be a rematch clause, because this is all for the belts, so at least the other party can have a chance to get back his belt. And the thing is, this fight is a mega-fight, so there could be bigger money for the rematch as well or even if there is a need for trilogy, then it's also possible. There could only be one A-side in this fight and that will be Spence.
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August 17, 2022, 11:34:26 PM
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We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

As far as the previous article I posted here, it was stated that the public will not know the exact details of the split.

I don't know why or any reason why they won't disclose it to the public but regardless, then so be it.

What matter is that we will now see Spence and Crawford facing each other in the ring officially and not just in papers.

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August 18, 2022, 01:37:05 AM
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We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

As far as the previous article I posted here, it was stated that the public will not know the exact details of the split.

I don't know why or any reason why they won't disclose it to the public but regardless, then so be it.

What matter is that we will now see Spence and Crawford facing each other in the ring officially and not just in papers.

Yes, numbers are not usually released in public unless some insider released the number itself. They are not releasing it for confidentially for this fighter.

So we could speculate as what will be the split, maybe it could be in favor of Spence. But I agree that this fight should be made, although there are new updates, we as boxing fans are waiting for the official release.

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August 18, 2022, 02:01:38 AM
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I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 
We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

There's probably a rematch clause on the contract and it depends on how things turn out in the first fight and the purse split could be very much different from the purse split in their first fight, I just feel it should be 50/50 as they are both champions but Spence having three belts is a big reason why he should have the edge and about the A-side, they are both on the A side but after the fight one of them will not be.

Both camps are intelligent enough to include a rematch clause in their deal because this is an undisputed fight and a once in a blue moon mega fight, also a rematch will only be interested to see if the fight will end up in a fair decision but if it's dominated by Spence or Crawford then I think that clause won't be enough to sell the fight big again. I really think that Crawford is already comfortable in his 40% share because of the facts that has been said above and Spence can bring more food to the table.

That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

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We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

As far as the previous article I posted here, it was stated that the public will not know the exact details of the split.

I don't know why or any reason why they won't disclose it to the public but regardless, then so be it.

What matter is that we will now see Spence and Crawford facing each other in the ring officially and not just in papers.

Yes, numbers are not usually released in public unless some insider released the number itself. They are not releasing it for confidentially for this fighter.

So we could speculate as what will be the split, maybe it could be in favor of Spence. But I agree that this fight should be made, although there are new updates, we as boxing fans are waiting for the official release.

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      [(b) Any information contained in a medical record of such an applicant, if the information is not relevant to the Commission in determining whether to grant a license to the applicant;

      (c) Any information relating to the financial records of an applicant or licensee;] and

      [(d)] (c) Any information required to be submitted or disclosed to the Commission and kept confidential pursuant to federal law.

      2.  The Commission shall reveal the information set forth in subsection 1:

      (a) Upon the lawful order of a court of competent jurisdiction;

      (b) To any person upon the request of the person who is the subject of the information; and

      (c) In the course of the necessary administration of this chapter.

      3.  The Commission may reveal the information set forth in subsection 1 to an authorized agent of an agency of the United States Government, a state, a political subdivision of a state, a foreign government or a political subdivision of a foreign government responsible for regulating unarmed combat in the jurisdiction of the authorized agent.

      4.  A person seeking an order of a court of competent jurisdiction for the disclosure of information described in subsection 1 must submit a motion in writing to the court requesting the information. At least 10 days before submitting the motion, the person must provide notice to the Commission, the Attorney General and all persons who may be affected by the disclosure of the information. The notice must:

      (a) Include, without limitation, a copy of the motion and all documents in support of the motion that are to be filed with the court; and

      (b) Be delivered in person or by certified mail to the last known address of each person to whom notice must be provided.

      Sec. 8.  NRS 467.107 is hereby amended to read as follows:

      467.107  1.  In addition to the payment of any other fees and money due under this chapter, every promoter, except as otherwise provided in subsection 3, shall pay a license fee of 8 percent of the total gross receipts from admission fees , if any, to the live contest or exhibition of unarmed combat, exclusive of any federal tax or tax imposed by any political subdivision of this state, without any deductions for commissions, brokerage fees, distribution fees, advertising, contestants’ purses or any other expenses or charges.

      2.  One-fourth of the total gross receipts from admission fees collected pursuant to subsection 1 must be deposited with the State Treasurer for credit to the Athletic Commission’s Agency Account created by NRS 467.080.

      3.  A corporation organized pursuant to NRS 81.550 to 81.660, inclusive, which promotes an amateur contest or exhibition of unarmed combat whose net proceeds are to be spent entirely in this state, for the purposes for which the corporation is organized, is exempt from the fees payable under this section.


https://www.leg.state.nv.us/Statutes/80th2019/Stats201907.html#Stats201907page1254

But how come we get this data in public, PPV numbers and or live gates and how much the fighters are receiving, (purse split), leaked by boxing journalist like Dan Rafael?

It's because we have the "Muhammad Ali" act, promoters are then required to send all data to athletic commissions. So everyone see the details, boxing promoters, the boxers themselves, their managers and the commission. So somewhere along the way, either of those entities can leaked the numbers to the public or to those boxing journalist as they are very close to all people concern. It may or may not accurate, but we can get a good estimates.



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August 18, 2022, 09:11:44 AM
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That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

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That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

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That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

Of course, they are not new to this business, it's the promoters job, and once the contract is signed, that rematch is already mandatory, otherwise a lawsuit is going to happen. What I'm concern about this fight now is that it will be officially announce as that will ensure it will happen this year.

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That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

The promoters are fully aware of that, they have it taken care of, it's easy to make a rematch than the first fight because everything is on clause and if both fighters cannot back out they will need to pay the other party if he back outs a rematch is already a done deal when it comes to revenue sharing, so in case the fight is close people are going to expect a rematch if it's lopsided then both parties can agree not to pursue the rematch.

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I'm still waiting for the announcement if they have already reached an agreement. It's been weeks but still no report from the media. I hope they will reach an agreement soon, perhaps this coming ber months. I don't why Terence Crawford is hard to get regarding the percentage of the money. If I'm Crawford I'll humbly ask 40-60 of the money, beat the shit out of Spence, demand a rematch then appeal for a 70-30 on the contract, ez money. 
We have seen the updates already, although not official, but it is a reliable and good source as where the negotiations is heading. It not Terrence Crawford that is trying to 'hard to get', in my opinion it is Spence, because he has 3 belts and he believed he is the A-side, between the two. And all have been speculating that the money split is 60-40 in favor of Spence, and Crawford is ok with that 40. But then again, we might never know that real split until the fight is made, and the numbers goes public.

For now, let's leave it like that, the fight could happen in the second or third week of November and Spence getting the biggest share of the pot. The data might not be available, although I reckon that if the venue is on Las Vegas, the Nevada Athletic Commission might release the numbers after the fight, so we will see. But if it's true that Crawford is willing to accepting the 40% and then maybe look for a bigger purse if there is a rematch.

There's probably a rematch clause on the contract and it depends on how things turn out in the first fight and the purse split could be very much different from the purse split in their first fight, I just feel it should be 50/50 as they are both champions but Spence having three belts is a big reason why he should have the edge and about the A-side, they are both on the A side but after the fight one of them will not be.

For sure there could be a rematch clause, because this is all for the belts, so at least the other party can have a chance to get back his belt. And the thing is, this fight is a mega-fight, so there could be bigger money for the rematch as well or even if there is a need for trilogy, then it's also possible. There could only be one A-side in this fight and that will be Spence.

For sure and there is no doubt at all that Spence is at the A-side as he has more belt to offer than Crawford who only have one belt but that could change soon in the rematch if Crawford will dominate this match. I don't doubt that there will be a rematch as long as the fight won't end in TKO/KO because a rematch clause will be written in their contract as this is an undisputed fight and all belts is at stake, so a chance to avenge will be given to the defeated boxer soon.

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They have to finalize it so both fighters can go for serious training and promoters can promote and writers can write about the fight and we fans start discussing the fight, right now all we can do is speculate,

Both fighters are surely doing serious training now, at least.

These boxers won't just start their respective training after the fight will officially deal.  Since there's progress and might end up in a successful deal, they are doing some training now so that they won't have to rush their conditioning.

For sure, our speculation will soon come true.

Just hang in there as this fight will be materialized for real.

That's for sure, they are the ones inside who knows the news and all every detail of it so if both camps are almost reaching a deal then I guess that's an enough reason for them to start reviewing tapes and do trainings for their upcoming fight even before they announce it. This will be a mega-fight in the process and this will be an entertaining fight to see as well as Crawford and Spence is known to be a heavy hitter who wants to have a blow-by-blow fights.

They have been eyeing each other for many years now, even watches each other fight live so for sure they have an idea already on the style of each other and no need to watch tapes to prepare for their fight. Or at least not spend so much time about it..

If the smoke came from Dan Rafael, then there could be very well true that the fight has somewhat been made and only the boxers in the under card that they are looking to fulfill and the venue itself.

I think they already know that one way or the other, it's inevitable for the both of them to go up against each other because they both know that they will be the ones left in the end so a fight will be needed to see who's more stronger and the right to be the undisputed boxer in welterweight division. Nice to hear that they are now in a finalizing stage where they are choosing the undercards as these fighters are also a key to sell the fight even more.

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August 18, 2022, 03:56:55 PM
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That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

Even a rematch clause will be another story as we don't know who will be on the A-side in their rematch, it could be Spence and it could be Crawford, we don't really know. One thing is for sure, there will be a rematch as long as the fight ends in a decision because if the fight ends in TKO or KO then I guess they will struggle to sell the rematch fight because it's already clear who's more dominant. But yes, I'd say that this will be much interesting if their rivalry will reach trilogy.
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That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

Of course, they are not new to this business, it's the promoters job, and once the contract is signed, that rematch is already mandatory, otherwise a lawsuit is going to happen. What I'm concern about this fight now is that it will be officially announce as that will ensure it will happen this year.

Both are a title holders champ, so we can assume that both parties are going to seek for a rematch whoever losses

the fight, it might be included from the contract that they are negotiating now, we should talk about the trilogy after the rematch
as we can't assume what will be the outcome of this fight.

Moving forward, looking to see further updates in regard to the schedule if there's already a finalization of the fight.
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Both are a title holders champ, so we can assume that both parties are going to seek for a rematch whoever losses

the fight, it might be included from the contract that they are negotiating now, we should talk about the trilogy after the rematch
as we can't assume what will be the outcome of this fight.

Moving forward, looking to see further updates in regard to the schedule if there's already a finalization of the fight.

It's important it's in the contract so no more negotiation of rematch after the fight. It would be more interesting if the first fight result is close like a split decision as that will create some hype since speculation will come out that judges are biased and fans would want to see the rematch.



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Maybe they are also on the process or discussion on how to maximize their profits and make the fight bigger than mega-fight as an undisputed fight is really rare to happen in the boxing industry, also, I happen to read somewhere that Spence's camp is asking for Crawford's camp to help Spence sell and market the fight as he couldn't carry all the load even if he is the king of PPV. Don't know if it's really true but both of them should really try to sell the fight even if they know that their fight is much anticipated.

They share the obligation but I'm curious since both fighters are top calibers and their names already have market value.

I don't see any needs of selling as in one formal announcement of this possible fight fans will be there to support, especially the gambling industry

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

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Maybe they are also on the process or discussion on how to maximize their profits and make the fight bigger than mega-fight as an undisputed fight is really rare to happen in the boxing industry, also, I happen to read somewhere that Spence's camp is asking for Crawford's camp to help Spence sell and market the fight as he couldn't carry all the load even if he is the king of PPV. Don't know if it's really true but both of them should really try to sell the fight even if they know that their fight is much anticipated.

They share the obligation but I'm curious since both fighters are top calibers and their names already have market value.

I don't see any needs of selling as in one formal announcement of this possible fight fans will be there to support, especially the gambling industry

Exerting more effort into the marketing will help them sell more, more PPV and gate entrance means more money, and probably more sponsorship as well. This is an anticipated fight and it could only happen once, so they have to take this opportunity to make more money.

Trash talking and other form of taunting especially on social media is I think enough for them to gather hype for this match, they are big star already and for sure many of their fans would provably watch this fight because for sure many are interested to see on which of them is the more dominant fighter. Provably there are still ongoing negotiation for this fight to happen and maybe there promoter just want more people to talk about this fight so that they can also get huge revenue for this match up.

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