[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[inthelongrun]

These two boxers have a combined record of 66-0. At this point, Terence Crawford is a slight favorite with betting odds of 1.89, while Errol Spence Jr. is at 2.10. On top of that, the prediction from Mike Tyson is that Crawford will beat Spence, but I am not putting too much importance to it. For me, both the boxers have equal chances and it is very risky to pick one side for this match. I won't be making a bet for this one. Will be risking some money on Golovkin, so can't take anymore risk at this point of time.  

Good to hear Tyson's opinion or any other boxer for that matter. What I don't like is hearing from some boxing analyst who doesn't have the experienced and then telling us some bulls**t reasons that A boxer will win because of this and that.

Anyhow, the fight is still far though, you might have a chance of heart and bet who you think is more likely to win. If that is the ML odd, then definitely, it's already good.

I also like Iron Mike making predictions. He's honest and he doesn't care about people getting affected by his words.

Boxers can be very bias too when making predictions. They can favor boxers with their own fighting styles, or race or something personal deep inside like their egos. We have guys like Johnny Nelson who always favor fellow British fighters; and world champion Jessica McCaskill who seem to hate her former conqueror Katie Taylor. Carl Froch is so far the worst I don't like to hear. He will try to connect everything to him that will end up glorifying himself. I prefer boxers commentating or giving their opinions like Tim Bradley and Shawn Porter.  

HBO during its days used to hire most commentators that aren't boxers or former boxers. Jim Lampley was a very good one. Personally, I noticed hardcore non boxing followers tend to become less bias than actual boxers or non boxers that are working directly with boxers.

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[goinmerry]

HBO during its days used to hire most commentators that aren't boxers or former boxers. Jim Lampley was a very good one. Personally, I noticed hardcore non boxing followers tend to become less bias than actual boxers or non boxers that are working directly with boxers.

It's good that we getting lots of views and opinions about the fight regardless if they are biased or not. It's still a good reference.

As long as their predictions and speculations are backed with good analysis and technical aspects, then we can say that was a good read and not totally pure biased. There are analysis that is just commenting on things out of their favoritism.

If predictions will be like for example, Stephen A. Smith in basketball where no analysis is involved and just predicting things, that was a total BS and can't help us with the analysis we are making before placing a bet.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Agree with. This fight has no reason why should it not happen.

Spence already mentioned that he will fight Crawford before deciding to moved-up weight. The same goal also to Crawford before deciding to move-up weight. These boxers have the same goal - to unify the Welterweight division titles and that is something difficult to achieve.

If only these boxers was in the same with Pacquiao, I think they won't even stand a chance to become a unified champion.

I hope both parties already agreed on the split of revenue because I read that that's the main problem why this fight might not happen. Spence is trying to get a higher percentage because he has more belts while Crawford wants a 50/50 share, I don't know but if they will not agree then this fight will remain on paper only.

Someone will have to give an inch and I think this will be Crawford so that the fight is going to happen. We don't have to hear so many excuses, Crawford try to eliminate the first hurdle by not signing with Top Rank again and then Spence Jr, holding his move up in weight at 154 lbs and challenge Charlo.

If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

Without a doubt, Crawford should give in, in fact, in such a case, if I were Crawford, I would accept even less in order to do the great deed, I would not worry much about the money, what I would worry about would be beating Spence, beating him I think I would have the doors open to the best, more fights will come and with much more opportunity to win, even if he loses with Spence he will not leave empty handed, I think that before walking he needs to crawl, and sometimes the desire to have a lot of money blinds anyone, I think that for now you should prepare very well, win and then whatever has to come comes, there are more options.

[Kemarit]

These two boxers have a combined record of 66-0. At this point, Terence Crawford is a slight favorite with betting odds of 1.89, while Errol Spence Jr. is at 2.10. On top of that, the prediction from Mike Tyson is that Crawford will beat Spence, but I am not putting too much importance to it. For me, both the boxers have equal chances and it is very risky to pick one side for this match. I won't be making a bet for this one. Will be risking some money on Golovkin, so can't take anymore risk at this point of time. 

Good to hear Tyson's opinion or any other boxer for that matter. What I don't like is hearing from some boxing analyst who doesn't have the experienced and then telling us some bulls**t reasons that A boxer will win because of this and that.

Anyhow, the fight is still far though, you might have a chance of heart and bet who you think is more likely to win. If that is the ML odd, then definitely, it's already good.

I also like Iron Mike making predictions. He's honest and he doesn't care about people getting affected by his words.

Boxers can be very bias too when making predictions. They can favor boxers with their own fighting styles, or race or something personal deep inside like their egos. We have guys like Johnny Nelson who always favor fellow British fighters; and world champion Jessica McCaskill who seem to hate her former conqueror Katie Taylor. Carl Froch is so far the worst I don't like to hear. He will try to connect everything to him that will end up glorifying himself. I prefer boxers commentating or giving their opinions like Tim Bradley and Shawn Porter. 

HBO during its days used to hire most commentators that aren't boxers or former boxers. Jim Lampley was a very good one. Personally, I noticed hardcore non boxing followers tend to become less bias than actual boxers or non boxers that are working directly with boxers.

Who would forget Lampley's bang, bang, bang, LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DpIzr5bTQ

Froch though has a good commentaries on Amir Khan but it seems thought that it was personal. But we all know that Khan is already done years ago because of his weak chin.

I prefer Shawn Porter over Bradley by a mile, I mean most of the time Bradley has exaggerate things. But who can't blame him, this is already his career.

[TravelMug]

Agree with. This fight has no reason why should it not happen.

Spence already mentioned that he will fight Crawford before deciding to moved-up weight. The same goal also to Crawford before deciding to move-up weight. These boxers have the same goal - to unify the Welterweight division titles and that is something difficult to achieve.

If only these boxers was in the same with Pacquiao, I think they won't even stand a chance to become a unified champion.

I hope both parties already agreed on the split of revenue because I read that that's the main problem why this fight might not happen. Spence is trying to get a higher percentage because he has more belts while Crawford wants a 50/50 share, I don't know but if they will not agree then this fight will remain on paper only.

Someone will have to give an inch and I think this will be Crawford so that the fight is going to happen. We don't have to hear so many excuses, Crawford try to eliminate the first hurdle by not signing with Top Rank again and then Spence Jr, holding his move up in weight at 154 lbs and challenge Charlo.

If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

Without a doubt, Crawford should give in, in fact, in such a case, if I were Crawford, I would accept even less in order to do the great deed, I would not worry much about the money, what I would worry about would be beating Spence, beating him I think I would have the doors open to the best, more fights will come and with much more opportunity to win, even if he loses with Spence he will not leave empty handed, I think that before walking he needs to crawl, and sometimes the desire to have a lot of money blinds anyone, I think that for now you should prepare very well, win and then whatever has to come comes, there are more options.

His back is against the wall here, so yeah, I think he will give in. Maybe he already did and we just have to have as silence means that this could have been done already, just the date and the venue and that's it.

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

[Hypnosis00]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

[inthelongrun]

If predictions will be like for example, Stephen A. Smith in basketball where no analysis is involved and just predicting things, that was a total BS and can't help us with the analysis we are making before placing a bet.

I remember that. He was so annoying to the point that I also hated listening to him in NBA. How in hell he was given attention by mainstream media in the fighting world. He sure felt how he was not welcomed by the fighting community. He became a laughing stock. I was so glad he finally shut up. He can be a fan in boxing and mma but his knowledge is very limited.

Who would forget Lampley's bang, bang, bang, LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DpIzr5bTQ

Froch though has a good commentaries on Amir Khan but it seems thought that it was personal. But we all know that Khan is already done years ago because of his weak chin.

I prefer Shawn Porter over Bradley by a mile, I mean most of the time Bradley has exaggerate things. But who can't blame him, this is already his career.

That's a good one mate. Lampley got it.

I mean, there are no perfect ones but these guys I mentioned. I'm fine with them. I like them talking and I love Tim. I felt like he's honest and talks from his head as much as possible and not from his heart. There were many times that I am turning off the audio or shift to a different language like Spanish just to avoid people I do not want to hear. 

[Vaculin]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

Honestly, how much are we talking here?
I know they will earn millions on the fight, but I like to know the estimated figure they will make since it's a big fight.

Does anyone know an estimate?

How much Spence biggest earning in PPV, and how much Crawford bigges earning in PPV respectively?

[carlisle1]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

Honestly, how much are we talking here?
I know they will earn millions on the fight, but I like to know the estimated figure they will make since it's a big fight.

Does anyone know an estimate?

How much Spence biggest earning in PPV, and how much Crawford bigges earning in PPV respectively?

Wow, that's something that is really important  though I don't have that figure but for sure it's a huge amount of money that

we are figuring here, both fighters have their slice with the profits that the fight will generate and for sure both camps are, really

after with that slice aside from the possible win that will hype the name of their fighter.

[Japinat]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

That's why Spence Jr. is called the king of PPV because of the revenue he can attract through PPV whenever he got some fights. For Spence, I think he will be more than happy to accept that 40% purse cut just to make the fight happen and that specific cut is already big enough for him as he's now flying solo with no Bob Arum.
He may be under Mayweather Promotions in this fight but his cut will be much bigger than he's with Bob, and that will be his biggest paycheck in his entire career.

[Distinctin]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

Honestly, how much are we talking here?
I know they will earn millions on the fight, but I like to know the estimated figure they will make since it's a big fight.

Does anyone know an estimate?

How much Spence biggest earning in PPV, and how much Crawford bigges earning in PPV respectively?

Wow, that's something that is really important  though I don't have that figure but for sure it's a huge amount of money that

we are figuring here, both fighters have their slice with the profits that the fight will generate and for sure both camps are, really

after with that slice aside from the possible win that will hype the name of their fighter.

As of now, there's no leaked information about their purse deal but I believe it will be revealed soon if the fight will be materialized and after they announce the venue and official time and date. We're just having some speculative figures but we can't say that we had a closest prediction, soon we will know it and surely it will be millions. My estimate is that they will both have a guaranteed at least $5 Million each.

[AmoreJaz]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

That's why Spence Jr. is called the king of PPV because of the revenue he can attract through PPV whenever he got some fights. For Spence, I think he will be more than happy to accept that 40% purse cut just to make the fight happen and that specific cut is already big enough for him as he's now flying solo with no Bob Arum.
He may be under Mayweather Promotions in this fight but his cut will be much bigger than he's with Bob, and that will be his biggest paycheck in his entire career.

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

[agustina2]

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

Not going to happen. Spence Jr. should at least get the 60% of the purse and not the other way around. If he will just get a 40% cut, he might just move up weight and disregard fighting Crawford where he can earn more.

I know both parties know the agreement already but just finalizing things.

No announcement until now but surely it will be released this month or next. But let's hope that announcement is not about the fight will be canceled lol.

[Kemarit]

He wouldn't be worry, he has been calling Spence Jr for quiet sometime now and is eager to face him. And this will be his perfect opportunity, no more Bob Arum in the middle for him to negotiate with Spence Jr and PBC. He might get the short end of the deal, but still, that money is going to be big.

Exactly, 50% of 10 million is smaller than 40% of 20 million, so the percentage does not really matter and Crawford has to take a low percentage for this fight to finally be sealed. Spence is a PPV attraction, so if Crawford could beat Spence, then he will become popular and next fight of his will make him earn more.

Honestly, how much are we talking here?
I know they will earn millions on the fight, but I like to know the estimated figure they will make since it's a big fight.

Does anyone know an estimate?

How much Spence biggest earning in PPV, and how much Crawford bigges earning in PPV respectively?

Wow, that's something that is really important  though I don't have that figure but for sure it's a huge amount of money that

we are figuring here, both fighters have their slice with the profits that the fight will generate and for sure both camps are, really

after with that slice aside from the possible win that will hype the name of their fighter.

As of now, there's no leaked information about their purse deal but I believe it will be revealed soon if the fight will be materialized and after they announce the venue and official time and date. We're just having some speculative figures but we can't say that we had a closest prediction, soon we will know it and surely it will be millions. My estimate is that they will both have a guaranteed at least $5 Million each.

Hopefully they will reveal it so that we will know who will get the majority of the split as we have been saying that Spence will get as high as 60% because of the 3 belts that he is holding, and that Crawford has no bargaining power whatsoever.

My estimate is that both will have a guarantee of $6 million at least. They are both champions and so I believed they deserved that kind of money. And then we will have the PPV later, so that is additional millions again for this fighter. So win-win for Crawford even if he gets 40%.

[Dave1]

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

Not going to happen. Spence Jr. should at least get the 60% of the purse and not the other way around. If he will just get a 40% cut, he might just move up weight and disregard fighting Crawford where he can earn more.

I know both parties know the agreement already but just finalizing things.

No announcement until now but surely it will be released this month or next. But let's hope that announcement is not about the fight will be canceled lol.

It will be really unfortunate if this fight is going to be cancelled, they already put a lot of effort to negotiate, even Crawford himself didn't re-sign his contract with Bob Arum of Top Rank so that he can secure this fight because he knows that Arum doesn't want to work with PBC which is Spence promotional company.

Make sense for Spence to ask that 60%, I guess majority of us will agree to that. He is the bigger draw and then the belts that he is holding.

[ChiBitCTy]

I’ve got to be honest I haven’t watched boxing much outside of these “celebrity” matches as I just feel like the level of competition has really fallen off. Is that still the case? I just miss the days of the big heavyweights like Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis etc.  I know the UFC kind of hurt the sport bud I’m wondering why the level of competition has fallen off so greatly the last decade or so.

[bbc.reporter]

According to Floyd Mayweather, those rumors that the negotiations between Spence's team and Crawford's team to organize this fight for October is only fake news. Is Mayweather also speculating that the teams of Spence and Crawford are also using a similar tactic as his team and team Pacman? The tactic is make everyone wait until the money is very big enough hehehe.



Floyd Mayweather shut down rumors about the Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford undisputed clash.

The newly inducted Hall of Famer cut off the rumored October date for Spence vs Crawford during a press conference with MMA star Mikuru Asakura, who he will face in an exhibition match in September.

Last week, ESPN’s Mike Coppinger said the negotiations are still ongoing, but the undisputed welterweight championship is targeted for October. Mayweather said otherwise.

“…I seen, if I am not mistaken, someone threw out a date or a month,” Mayweather said.

“Not true. When it is true y’all will hear it from me first or from Fighthype.”

Source https://www.fightsports.tv/floyd-mayweather-said-october-date-for-errol-spence-jr-vs-terence-crawford-is-not-true/

[Baofeng]

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

[Natalim]

^^ Well Floyd has a obvious hidden agenda to tell us that there is negotiations, because he wanted Crawford to be his manager. And maybe if Bud Crawford will sign with him, then that is the time that this fight is going to be made, hehehe. But still the fight can still be made in October, we still have 3 months of it and many things can happen along the way to put this fight in schedule at least for this year.

We know Floyd, he knows how to hype and to make the attention focus on him, I believe that there's already a negotiation between him and Crawford and their team will negotiate with the team of Spence to make this big fight. The current status now maybe just a speculation, but there's really a possibiilty that this fight will be realized.

[Pamadar]

do you really think Spence Jr will accept the 40% cut considering that he has more belts than Crawford? it is more on Crawford getting the 40% cut here. anyway, forgetting the purse split, these 2 boxers should fight as early as they can. don't wait 5 years down the road before they finally agreed about purse splits or other things.

Not going to happen. Spence Jr. should at least get the 60% of the purse and not the other way around. If he will just get a 40% cut, he might just move up weight and disregard fighting Crawford where he can earn more.

I know both parties know the agreement already but just finalizing things.

No announcement until now but surely it will be released this month or next. But let's hope that announcement is not about the fight will be canceled lol.

It will be really unfortunate if this fight is going to be cancelled, they already put a lot of effort to negotiate, even Crawford himself didn't re-sign his contract with Bob Arum of Top Rank so that he can secure this fight because he knows that Arum doesn't want to work with PBC which is Spence promotional company.

Make sense for Spence to ask that 60%, I guess majority of us will agree to that. He is the bigger draw and then the belts that he is holding.

Both crowd and the belt he currently holding gives him that privilege to ask for a bigger slice of the profits.

Aside from the titles and the fame, both camps are more into the money that this fight is possibly generating. It's disappointing
to the fans who are waiting if in anyhow the negotiations will not materialize.

Both respected champs are expected to have their own demands and they need to settle it together with the promoters that
will hold the fight once both camps sign the contract.