[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[Getmon]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

These are only pure opinions and observations of Floyd Mayweather. And he wants his name to continue being significant in the world of boxing. He knows nothin' on the inside. What he knows? He ain't the manager and promoter of Crawford and Spence. He is not part of the dialogue between the two camps. What is his right to announce the fight first? We already read the news earlier that fight ain't happening this year.

What I understand is Crawford gets a share from net income. Followers of PBC are putting now the blame on Crawford for wanting Al Haymon to ask his permission for the expenses and on top of that for wanting to see the books.

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[mirakal]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

These are only pure opinions and observations of Floyd Mayweather. And he wants his name to continue being significant in the world of boxing. He knows nothin' on the inside. What he knows? He ain't the manager and promoter of Crawford and Spence. He is not part of the dialogue between the two camps. What is his right to announce the fight first? We already read the news earlier that fight ain't happening this year.

What I understand is Crawford gets a share from net income. Followers of PBC are putting now the blame on Crawford for wanting Al Haymon to ask his permission for the expenses and on top of that for wanting to see the books.

What I know is that Mayweather is somehow part of their dialogue because Bud Crawford doesn't know the business side of boxing, he is just there to help Crawford that is why he's that confident to say that he will be the one of the first few people to break the news regarding this undisputed fight. Also, Mayweather is so vocal that he is interested to sign Crawford once the latter is done with Bob Arum of the Top Rank, this might be the clue. Although I cannot find any solid proof that Mayweather is indeed temporarily standing as a promoter of Bud but I'm positive that I've read somewhere that he's helping Crawford on this fight.

[btc_angela]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

These are only pure opinions and observations of Floyd Mayweather. And he wants his name to continue being significant in the world of boxing. He knows nothin' on the inside. What he knows? He ain't the manager and promoter of Crawford and Spence. He is not part of the dialogue between the two camps. What is his right to announce the fight first? We already read the news earlier that fight ain't happening this year.

What I understand is Crawford gets a share from net income. Followers of PBC are putting now the blame on Crawford for wanting Al Haymon to ask his permission for the expenses and on top of that for wanting to see the books.

What I know is that Mayweather is somehow part of their dialogue because Bud Crawford doesn't know the business side of boxing, he is just there to help Crawford that is why he's that confident to say that he will be the one of the first few people to break the news regarding this undisputed fight. Also, Mayweather is so vocal that he is interested to sign Crawford once the latter is done with Bob Arum of the Top Rank, this might be the clue. Although I cannot find any solid proof that Mayweather is indeed temporarily standing as a promoter of Bud but I'm positive that I've read somewhere that he's helping Crawford on this fight.

Right, when we see both of them hanging together, we thought that Mayweather is somewhat in the middle and trying to be Bud Crawford's new manager. But so far we can't find any that will say Floyd is the new manager or what maybe they are really close friends or trying to be Bud's adviser as far as negotiations is concern. But Floyd or at least Leonard Ellerbe is tight with Al Haymon's PBC, so if we go by the premise of it, they could really sit down and talk about this fight and make it happen very easy.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

It's very weird that Floyd is really involved in this fight. But nevertheless, we already assumed that it won't happen at least this year because the news suddenly went blank again. And we all have our own speculations as to what may be happening and who is stalling this fight.

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

[AmoreJaz]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

It's very weird that Floyd is really involved in this fight. But nevertheless, we already assumed that it won't happen at least this year because the news suddenly went blank again. And we all have our own speculations as to what may be happening and who is stalling this fight.

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

but, has anyone noticed? top bookies such as sportsbet and stake are having the betting lines for their match and listed as nov 30? crawford is somewhat the favourite here over spence. having odds of 1.66 for Crawford and 2.18 for Spence at stake.
anyway, if this is not yet a done deal, bookies can easily remove the betting line for this fight. but usually, bookies will only list the fight if there is confirmation schedule already.

[Kemarit]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

It's very weird that Floyd is really involved in this fight. But nevertheless, we already assumed that it won't happen at least this year because the news suddenly went blank again. And we all have our own speculations as to what may be happening and who is stalling this fight.

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

but, has anyone noticed? top bookies such as sportsbet and stake are having the betting lines for their match and listed as nov 30? crawford is somewhat the favourite here over spence. having odds of 1.66 for Crawford and 2.18 for Spence at stake.
anyway, if this is not yet a done deal, bookies can easily remove the betting line for this fight. but usually, bookies will only list the fight if there is confirmation schedule already.

Doesn't matter though, they can list the betting options even if is it not yet officially released the date as you can said, it can be moved or remove by them and we are all glad when we see the odds being written on top sportbookies. But if someone as big and close like Mayweather said this to the public, then don't put too much hope because it's easy to see that this fight might be delayed until next year because the date being given is very close now, just 6 weeks on the Nove 30 date and nothing is happening.

[coin-investor]

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

[Baofeng]

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

For me this fight is bound to happen, just like Floyd and Manny, but yeah, we could have our own speculation as who's side is bailing out on the scheduled for and going to wait till one of them are out of their prime or has been on a lot of war so they have been soften by other tough boxers.

So I would say that this year schedule of November or December is not happening.

But we should hope that by next year, they will have their own fight first and maybe after they win or lose talk again and see if the fight can be made by that time. But it's the question of if they are willing to stay for at least 2 fight in super welter? Because both are hinting to move up to 154 lbs and face the champion like Charlo.

[Getmon]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

These are only pure opinions and observations of Floyd Mayweather. And he wants his name to continue being significant in the world of boxing. He knows nothin' on the inside. What he knows? He ain't the manager and promoter of Crawford and Spence. He is not part of the dialogue between the two camps. What is his right to announce the fight first? We already read the news earlier that fight ain't happening this year.

What I understand is Crawford gets a share from net income. Followers of PBC are putting now the blame on Crawford for wanting Al Haymon to ask his permission for the expenses and on top of that for wanting to see the books.

What I know is that Mayweather is somehow part of their dialogue because Bud Crawford doesn't know the business side of boxing, he is just there to help Crawford that is why he's that confident to say that he will be the one of the first few people to break the news regarding this undisputed fight. Also, Mayweather is so vocal that he is interested to sign Crawford once the latter is done with Bob Arum of the Top Rank, this might be the clue. Although I cannot find any solid proof that Mayweather is indeed temporarily standing as a promoter of Bud but I'm positive that I've read somewhere that he's helping Crawford on this fight.

Right, when we see both of them hanging together, we thought that Mayweather is somewhat in the middle and trying to be Bud Crawford's new manager. But so far we can't find any that will say Floyd is the new manager or what maybe they are really close friends or trying to be Bud's adviser as far as negotiations is concern. But Floyd or at least Leonard Ellerbe is tight with Al Haymon's PBC, so if we go by the premise of it, they could really sit down and talk about this fight and make it happen very easy.

I have to disagree that Crawford doesn't know the business side of boxing. Crawford is already a star and was paid in millions of dollars before Spence earned his first million dollar payday. So Crawford was paid more than Spence before even if his fans are not as many showed he is good doing business in boxing.

It's very weird that Floyd is really involved in this fight.

I agree with you. Floyd Mayweather has no real role here. Anyhow, Crawford left Bob Arum and Mayweather could be wanting to become his new promoter. We can only speculate on how will Crawford trust Mayweather, especially he is tight with Leonard Ellerbe and Al Haymon, all part of team Spence.   

[yazher]

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

They won't go down as legendary boxers who don't fear anyone even if it means they gonna lose their clean records because these two are the best definition of boxing for money, not boxing for glory or honor. We don't see such things in the past because back then they are really fighting to become the greatest of all time but now they want to become the cleanest of all time. Mike Tyson will say to them, they are cute and funny.

[carlisle1]

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

Maybe yes and maybe there's other things that kept both camps to negotiate and close the deal. There are things that
still undecided or still not being cleared from both sides.

I see your point and maybe that's why Crawford on the earlier time said that he's willing to adjust with the amount of
potential profits, I mean he's willing to give Spence higher cut.

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

[Maslate]

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

We can only speculate but until there's an official announcement, we will never know who is the reason for the delay. However, based on what I read here, it seemed like majority of us believe that it was Spence who cause some delay, maybe because he chicken out already?

[Vaculin]

Spence vs. Crawford happening “Further down the future” says Floyd Mayweather Jr

If you guys remembered, Mayweather Jr. said way back in June or July if I'm not mistaken that he will be the one who will announce first if this fight will go to materialize for real and official. Unfortunately, Mayweather Jr. told the public bad news saying that the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford fight won’t happen until "further down the future".

It's now safe for me to assume that this fight will not happen this year. So unfortunate.

I agree with you, I also remember that Floyd Mayweather have actually said that he will be one of the first few people to break the news for the public's knowledge once the deal is already done for sure and according to the article you shared this fight is no longer possible this year because of the issues pertaining to the fight. I couldn't help but to think and bother that there's indeed someone who is pulling the strings behind to delay the fight, and for me this is not about the money anymore, it's more on legacy as both of them are still undefeated up to this point.

It's very weird that Floyd is really involved in this fight. But nevertheless, we already assumed that it won't happen at least this year because the news suddenly went blank again. And we all have our own speculations as to what may be happening and who is stalling this fight.

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

but, has anyone noticed? top bookies such as sportsbet and stake are having the betting lines for their match and listed as nov 30? crawford is somewhat the favourite here over spence. having odds of 1.66 for Crawford and 2.18 for Spence at stake.
anyway, if this is not yet a done deal, bookies can easily remove the betting line for this fight. but usually, bookies will only list the fight if there is confirmation schedule already.

That is kind of weird, it somehow gave us some second thoughts or hopes that the fight will really happen this year but we cannot take away the fact that the bookies have listed the fight when the news broke that both camps already agreed and just waiting for the signing of contract without knowing that there's an unfortunate news just few days after they had listed it. Fans are still hoping for the promised fight but judging the situation they are in now, I can somehow say that this might happen next year.

[agustina2]

That is kind of weird, it somehow gave us some second thoughts or hopes that the fight will really happen this year but we cannot take away the fact that the bookies have listed the fight when the news broke that both camps already agreed and just waiting for the signing of contract without knowing that there's an unfortunate news just few days after they had listed it. Fans are still hoping for the promised fight but judging the situation they are in now, I can somehow say that this might happen next year.

At least fans are still giving a slight possibility that this fight will really happen. Who knows that bookies do have a reliable source that's why they are doing such a list even though there's no official announcement on where the fight will happen.

Even with this bad news recently, I'm still hoping that this fight will happen.

Even not on the supposed Nov. 19 or Nov. 30, at least in the early quarter of 2023.

[Questat]

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

We can only speculate but until there's an official announcement, we will never know who is the reason for the delay. However, based on what I read here, it seemed like majority of us believe that it was Spence who cause some delay, maybe because he chicken out already?

Yeah, it looks like it, the hype is slowly dying because we have not heard or read a confirmation from the promoters that this fight is going to happen this year. Also, both fighters have some issues regarding about the transparency of the proceeds, so most probably they have not agreed yet on the slice of the revenue, or their share.

[Japinat]

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

Maybe yes and maybe there's other things that kept both camps to negotiate and close the deal. There are things that
still undecided or still not being cleared from both sides.

I see your point and maybe that's why Crawford on the earlier time said that he's willing to adjust with the amount of
potential profits, I mean he's willing to give Spence higher cut.

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

It is really unclear because we don't know anything about what could've been the reason why the fight has been further delayed, both camps are keeping the curtains close and we can't even feel that Crawford is giving some pressure to make the fight happen because he will be at the disadvantage if the fight keeps on moving behind the original schedule as time will not be on his side always. It's really hard to speculate when we don't know the correct details. Too bad if this fight won't really happen.

[Dave1]

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

We can only speculate but until there's an official announcement, we will never know who is the reason for the delay. However, based on what I read here, it seemed like majority of us believe that it was Spence who cause some delay, maybe because he chicken out already?

Yeah, it looks like it, the hype is slowly dying because we have not heard or read a confirmation from the promoters that this fight is going to happen this year. Also, both fighters have some issues regarding about the transparency of the proceeds, so most probably they have not agreed yet on the slice of the revenue, or their share.

Official announcement about the delay? Not sure if they are going to acknowledge as who is causing it but for sure if this fight is not going to happen, there will be a lot of finger pointing and no one will admit which one delay or not willing to sign the contract.

So it looks like everything is dead, maybe Spence chicken out, or Crawford not getting enough money.

[carlisle1]

However, I disagree that the delay is not about money, still it, they are trying to be Floyd, undefeated, but if this is not going to materialized, then they are robbing us fans.

Not only the fans but are robbing each other of the money, opportunity, and legacy, so many things are at stake here for both of their careers, we can move forward and check other great fights but for these two fighters they just robbed one another with what great boxers should have and they will go down in history as two boxers who are coward to take their career to another level, I think they both don't like the fight to push, afraid that their zero losses will go.

Maybe yes and maybe there's other things that kept both camps to negotiate and close the deal. There are things that
still undecided or still not being cleared from both sides.

I see your point and maybe that's why Crawford on the earlier time said that he's willing to adjust with the amount of
potential profits, I mean he's willing to give Spence higher cut.

Still unclear if who's making the delay or maybe you are also right with your sentiment that both fighters don't want
to lose their winning records.

It is really unclear because we don't know anything about what could've been the reason why the fight has been further delayed, both camps are keeping the curtains close and we can't even feel that Crawford is giving some pressure to make the fight happen because he will be at the disadvantage if the fight keeps on moving behind the original schedule as time will not be on his side always. It's really hard to speculate when we don't know the correct details. Too bad if this fight won't really happen.

Yes, we are just waiting for a final update if there's already a confirmation if this fight will take place, as far as I understand
Crawford is vocally willing to adjust.

But we don't know the real score if it's Spence camps who's trying to avoid the fight or both of them
are not willing to risk both belts and records.

Too bad for most fans who are anticipating this possible fight as time goes by and the delay keeps on happening
possibly the interest will lessen, and fans and gamblers will be moving forward.

[agustina2]

But we don't know the real score if it's Spence camps who's trying to avoid the fight or both of them
are not willing to risk both belts and records.

No one is avoiding the fight, that's for sure. It's just that there are problems and issues with the transparency of the supposed guaranteed payout as far as most news is concerned. Spence is a business guy and if the price is right, he will go against big fish without hesitation.

There's no also issue about risking their records and belts. That's a horrible excuse. But with these issues raised lately, fans are disappointed with what happened.

[Kemarit]

But we don't know the real score if it's Spence camps who's trying to avoid the fight or both of them
are not willing to risk both belts and records.

No one is avoiding the fight, that's for sure. It's just that there are problems and issues with the transparency of the supposed guaranteed payout as far as most news is concerned. Spence is a business guy and if the price is right, he will go against big fish without hesitation.

There's no also issue about risking their records and belts. That's a horrible excuse. But with these issues raised lately, fans are disappointed with what happened.

Sooner or later that 0 has to go, so either one of will lost that obviously when they face each other. Yeah, I think that is not the keyword, "avoiding". Maybe they are not in the same page as to the money split or what not. Both are willing to face each other and it's unavoidable when both of them become champion at 147, specially when Crawford move to 147 pounds.

The issue right now is that there is a demand for the fight from fans and yet they are not listening to it. Or at least their promoters or networks, there is money to be made so they have to sit down and talk.