[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17

[TravelMug]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

[Questat]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

Pressure is always there because everyone wants to win, but this fight could give GGG more money than the fight defending his belt, so I think he knows how to handle this. Let's wait for the outcome of GGG and Canelo first, then we would know what would be GGG's next action.

[btc_angela]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

Pressure is always there because everyone wants to win, but this fight could give GGG more money than the fight defending his belt, so I think he knows how to handle this. Let's wait for the outcome of GGG and Canelo first, then we would know what would be GGG's next action.

True, but that is the problem with this ABC belts now, they have a lot of champions, regular, interim, super champion, champion emeritus so it hardly matter for now.

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

[Baofeng]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

Nah, he has 3 belts right now, he can just give up or being stripped of the WBA for all he care. And I agree that his boxing bodies has so many belts, they they will have to force their champion. They allow GGG to go up to 168 lbs without stripping him. But they should know that mandating him to fight Lara just right after his fight with Canelo is not good for the boxers. So for sure, GGG would rather be strip of his WBA belt that force to fight Lara in just 3 months after his fight with Canelo.

[Sithara007]

Nah, he has 3 belts right now, he can just give up or being stripped of the WBA for all he care. And I agree that his boxing bodies has so many belts, they they will have to force their champion. They allow GGG to go up to 168 lbs without stripping him. But they should know that mandating him to fight Lara just right after his fight with Canelo is not good for the boxers. So for sure, GGG would rather be strip of his WBA belt that force to fight Lara in just 3 months after his fight with Canelo.

Agreed. At this age, I don't think that Golovkin cares about the WBA title. In case he loses the fight against Canelo, then he will have 4 months to move from 168 pounds to 160. I don't think that it is possible without having a negative impact on the body and therefore in all probability Golovkin will forfeit the WBA title. In that case will Erislandy Lara be declared as the WBA champion without a fight? Or do he need to fight against the player who is ranked next? Anyway Golovkin will continue to be the IBF/IBO middleweight champion.

[bisdak40]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

Pressure is always there because everyone wants to win, but this fight could give GGG more money than the fight defending his belt, so I think he knows how to handle this. Let's wait for the outcome of GGG and Canelo first, then we would know what would be GGG's next action.

True, but that is the problem with this ABC belts now, they have a lot of champions, regular, interim, super champion, champion emeritus so it hardly matter for now.

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

WBA ordering GGG to fight his mandatory challenger means that his bout with Canelo this September is not sanctioned by them so before GGG loses to Canelo they are trying to make money out of him (through sanctioning fees) if ever GGG heeded to their call but I doubt Team GGG will do that as his chance for the trilogy is one in a million and besides he is running out of time now.

[yazher]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

Looks like Canelo will have another good fight after this one, seems like not a usual opponent for Canelo because I believe he wasn't ready to fight in the lower weight division after getting used to his current weight. therefore, this fight will likely not happen but depends on what the result of the fight against GGG would be. If he can somehow find a way to knock out GGG in the early rounds, then fans will be thrilled to see him fight once again soon and it will be nice if he gonna take this order by the WBA.

[Yaunfitda]

Nah, he has 3 belts right now, he can just give up or being stripped of the WBA for all he care. And I agree that his boxing bodies has so many belts, they they will have to force their champion. They allow GGG to go up to 168 lbs without stripping him. But they should know that mandating him to fight Lara just right after his fight with Canelo is not good for the boxers. So for sure, GGG would rather be strip of his WBA belt that force to fight Lara in just 3 months after his fight with Canelo.

Agreed. At this age, I don't think that Golovkin cares about the WBA title. In case he loses the fight against Canelo, then he will have 4 months to move from 168 pounds to 160. I don't think that it is possible without having a negative impact on the body and therefore in all probability Golovkin will forfeit the WBA title. In that case will Erislandy Lara be declared as the WBA champion without a fight? Or do he need to fight against the player who is ranked next? Anyway Golovkin will continue to be the IBF/IBO middleweight champion.

I will speculate that Lara will be elevated to the regular champion status by WBA. And if GGG is ready maybe next year then he can fight Lara but not right after his Canelo fight. He needs to take a break as well as you have said. If WBA is not keen on that, then Lara as champion will have his mandatory against the top fighters in the WBA ranking. And I think the IBF/IBO might be willing to give GGG more leeway as compare to WBA so he might retain that title after the fight.

[Pamadar]

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

It's a rivalry that he is really eager to win. There's nothing else that is important for him aside from taking down

Canelo and prove that he really deserves the win, a personal matter he is not after to whoever
the organization is requiring him.

It's a must fight for GGG and since both camps are ready now and they are really hyping these upcoming trilogy.

[Kelvinid]

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

It's a rivalry that he is really eager to win. There's nothing else that is important for him aside from taking down

Canelo and prove that he really deserves the win, a personal matter he is not after to whoever
the organization is requiring him.

It's a must fight for GGG and since both camps are ready now and they are really hyping these upcoming trilogy.

It's already hype, both will enjoy a decent payday in this fight as PPV will surely hit a decent number. People are anticipating for this fight, and now that it's already announce, they will surely pay for the PPV and some would go to the arena to witness it in person.

[Kasabus]

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

It's a rivalry that he is really eager to win. There's nothing else that is important for him aside from taking down

Canelo and prove that he really deserves the win, a personal matter he is not after to whoever
the organization is requiring him.

It's a must fight for GGG and since both camps are ready now and they are really hyping these upcoming trilogy.

It's already hype, both will enjoy a decent payday in this fight as PPV will surely hit a decent number. People are anticipating for this fight, and now that it's already announce, they will surely pay for the PPV and some would go to the arena to witness it in person.

Based on the previous fight, here's the figure.

According to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Alvarez would earn an official purse of $5 million and Golovkin was to make a $4 million purse. It was reported with profits of the PPV, Alvarez would potentially earn around $40 million and Golovkin could earn $30 million.[50]

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So now we have an idea how much they will make, and since it's a trilogy, I expect that it will earn a bigger amount compared to the last fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ Still huge numbers pre pandemic and for sure in this trilogy Canelo could be assured of at least $6 million and then GGG $5 million and then the PPV numbers split among them.

As for the Lara mandatory, he can wait o GGG giving the finger to the WBA about it. Perhaps GGG can make more money not fighting Lara for the 160 lbs title. Or who knows, if GGG win then he might stay at 168 lbs for a while and see his offers.

[Boristhecat]

Based on the previous fight, here's the figure.

According to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Alvarez would earn an official purse of $5 million and Golovkin was to make a $4 million purse. It was reported with profits of the PPV, Alvarez would potentially earn around $40 million and Golovkin could earn $30 million.[50]

source

So now we have an idea how much they will make, and since it's a trilogy, I expect that it will earn a bigger amount compared to the last fight.

Solid numbers. It also seems to me that taking into account all the factors (the public's thirst for "big" fights after the pandemic, inflation, the history of this confrontation, and even the recent defeat of Alvarez), boxers will earn more than in the second fight. Hopefully Golovkin wins in the early rounds with a "surprise" knockout (allowing Alvarez's team to question the consistency of the result) and there's a chance we'll see a 4th fight in this showdown. If Golovkin loses one way or another, this will be the last fight.

[cabron]

Based on the previous fight, here's the figure.

According to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Alvarez would earn an official purse of $5 million and Golovkin was to make a $4 million purse. It was reported with profits of the PPV, Alvarez would potentially earn around $40 million and Golovkin could earn $30 million.[50]

source

So now we have an idea how much they will make, and since it's a trilogy, I expect that it will earn a bigger amount compared to the last fight.

Solid numbers. It also seems to me that taking into account all the factors (the public's thirst for "big" fights after the pandemic, inflation, the history of this confrontation, and even the recent defeat of Alvarez), boxers will earn more than in the second fight. Hopefully Golovkin wins in the early rounds with a "surprise" knockout (allowing Alvarez's team to question the consistency of the result) and there's a chance we'll see a 4th fight in this showdown. If Golovkin loses one way or another, this will be the last fight.

Everyone is expecting to see Canelo to win, he may win, it might just be a close fight if its going 12.  
Canelo hurting GG is likely to thru the body shot or in a timely spurts and in that case, Golovkin will hang his glove for good. They've skipped so many years before 3rd fight, its years late. Although GG won against Murata, he had deteriorated. He need a win to get back to Bivol, I guess its a well planned match for Canelo to win.

[Distinctin]

Fans would want to see the fight ending in a KO rather than the decision so once and for all controversy will be over. Both GGG and Canelo are great fighters and they have their own fan-based, so we cannot really prevent from people thinking that the decision was not fair because as a fan we are sometimes biased.

Yes a KO decisive match would be great at this match.

True, I wanted to end this fight in a knock-out as well.

But for me, regardless of the winning method, the end result should be entertaining as long as the result is fair.

I'm fine with the decision result as long as all throughout the match, we will see lots of exchange blows between them.

However, since both of this boxers seems to be not giving any advantage against each other, there could be no knock out. But for sure this will be an entertaining fight, after all this is a trilogy already. We've seen the last two and indeed the fans enjoyed it although there is controversies. So this could be again going to the score card of the judges.

based from the poll here, many are rooting for GGG to win this fight. and for the odds, it is very tempting to bet on GGG as it is about 4.2x as compared to Canelo, which is only 1.22x, stake odds here.



this may be the last hurrah for GGG, so people are on his side this time. this will be a very interesting fight indeed! wonder what will be the next move if GGG will win on this one. will Canelo ask for another fight?

Wow! Tempting odds indeed, I will gladly throw some spare funds for GGG as I cannot let this slide because this year has been full of upset. We don't know this might be one of those upsets that could happen this year because there's always a chance that it can happen.

Yes, this might be GGG's last fight before he consider retirement because he is already 40 years old and I reckon that he will really retire after this match, win or lose. And if Canelo will ask another fight, I don't know if GGG will be still capable because he's won't be that young anymore.

[Japinat]

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

It's a rivalry that he is really eager to win. There's nothing else that is important for him aside from taking down

Canelo and prove that he really deserves the win, a personal matter he is not after to whoever
the organization is requiring him.

It's a must fight for GGG and since both camps are ready now and they are really hyping these upcoming trilogy.

This is really personal for GGG and he's been waiting for this fight to happen for years because Canelo is declining every talk and hype about the trilogy. Fortunately, Canelo bumped into a 2-way deal that he could not resist because he won't have that Bivol fight he wanted if he won't sign the trilogy fight.

After this fight and hopefully a win in his side, I don't think that GGG is still interested to fight anyone in the industry anymore even if it's a mandatory fight. He's not up to the belt nor the money it can bring because as I said, this is personal to him.

[Maslate]

Nah, he has 3 belts right now, he can just give up or being stripped of the WBA for all he care. And I agree that his boxing bodies has so many belts, they they will have to force their champion. They allow GGG to go up to 168 lbs without stripping him. But they should know that mandating him to fight Lara just right after his fight with Canelo is not good for the boxers. So for sure, GGG would rather be strip of his WBA belt that force to fight Lara in just 3 months after his fight with Canelo.

Agreed. At this age, I don't think that Golovkin cares about the WBA title. In case he loses the fight against Canelo, then he will have 4 months to move from 168 pounds to 160. I don't think that it is possible without having a negative impact on the body and therefore in all probability Golovkin will forfeit the WBA title. In that case will Erislandy Lara be declared as the WBA champion without a fight? Or do he need to fight against the player who is ranked next? Anyway Golovkin will continue to be the IBF/IBO middleweight champion.

That is why I'm really quite sure that this will be GGG's last fight in his career, even if he will have a win this time on their trilogy. This is the most waited fight for him and he really doesn't care about the money and title anymore because he just wanted a last chance to try and settle the score against Canelo Alvarez.

GGG is not that pressured that he ought to fight Lara for the WBA belt, he already knew that he cannot make it in 4 months because he needed some rest too after having 2 successive fights this year against Murata and Canelo, respectively. If GGG cannot make it, I think there will be another boxer who will have a fight against Lara for the WBA title just like what happened to Casimero to his WBO title recently.

[stadus]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

Pressure is always there because everyone wants to win, but this fight could give GGG more money than the fight defending his belt, so I think he knows how to handle this. Let's wait for the outcome of GGG and Canelo first, then we would know what would be GGG's next action.

True, but that is the problem with this ABC belts now, they have a lot of champions, regular, interim, super champion, champion emeritus so it hardly matter for now.

So win or lose, I doubt that GGG will be force somewhat to fight his mandatory or whatever they call it to have one champion. The focus for him right now is Canelo and that's what he is going to concentrate whatever WBA orders him, it doesn't matter for now.

WBA ordering GGG to fight his mandatory challenger means that his bout with Canelo this September is not sanctioned by them so before GGG loses to Canelo they are trying to make money out of him (through sanctioning fees) if ever GGG heeded to their call but I doubt Team GGG will do that as his chance for the trilogy is one in a million and besides he is running out of time now.

That is the problem of the 4 belt era that the industry has now because the respective have so many so-called champions that even an avid fan of boxing will still have a hard time sinking all this information and follow all the boxers who hold the respective belts in each division. In GGG's case, he won't budge to heed the WBA's order even if the said organization/association is putting pressure on GGG to fight his mandatory challenger because GGG is not that young anymore to do more than 2 fights per year and he's just given an approx. 4 months to fight this challenger after this trilogy.

[goinmerry]

That is the problem of the 4 belt era that the industry has now because the respective have so many so-called champions that even an avid fan of boxing will still have a hard time sinking all this information and follow all the boxers who hold the respective belts in each division. In GGG's case, he won't budge to heed the WBA's order even if the said organization/association is putting pressure on GGG to fight his mandatory challenger because GGG is not that young anymore to do more than 2 fights per year and he's just given an approx. 4 months to fight this challenger after this trilogy.

The 4-month timeframe is too short and GGG is now catching his age.

Regardless of the result here in the trilogy, GGG can't really make it to the point to become in 100% shape after 4 months after the trilogy to fight his mandatory challenger. Canelo might give him strong damage that needs months to be fully healed.

But as we are just speculating here, only GGG knows what to do in that situation and all we need is to wait.

Going back to his fight here against Canelo, the odds are really tempting for him. I'm sure he won't retire right away if he loses to Canelo here but will also put some money to him as maybe this will be his last fight.

[agustina2]

Not sure if this will add a pressure on Golovkin shoulder as he is being force to defend his WBA belt against Lara regardless of the outcome of the fight.

So after the fight with Canelo, he will be given 5 days which belt he want to keep. And if he wanted to go down to 160 lbs, then him and Lara are being ordered by the WBA to have one unified champion. Lara is the "regular WBA" champion.

I think it will not give pressure on him for now since that issue can be thought after the trilogy.

GGG is more focused on his upcoming fight against Canelo. He can think of that once he finished settling things with Canelo.

5 days is enough to decide and respond to WBO but 4 months of preparation to have another after fighting Canelo is not.