[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17

[carlisle1]

I'm surprised the majority of the poll participants are actually voting on GGG to win this rematch. There's 70% of them who think that GGG will prevail in this fight. And there's only 26.7% who think that it is going to be Canelo Alvarez who will win this fight. This is the opposite of what the odds are suggesting in betting platforms with Canelo having only 1.20 and Golovkin having a very high one with 4.10. This GGG odds must be very attractive to the majority of those who joined the poll.

@ 4.10 that's going to attract more gamblers and fans to bring out decent amount of money to bet for GGG, a lot of people still believe

that even GGG is no longer on his prime, he can still make a big damage if Canelo will  be careless during the fight, and with that sweet odd

they are willing to spare and risk some amount of their money to favor GGG. Though bookies have other way of weighting the potential

outcome and continue to place Canelo as the favorite.

[Daltonik]

Golovkin says that he does not attach importance to Canelo's defeat from Bivol and also believes that this will only force him to draw the right conclusions and become even stronger, so Gennady seems to be set up for the upcoming fight and considers Canelo an objectively strong boxer.

[TravelMug]

I'm surprised the majority of the poll participants are actually voting on GGG to win this rematch. There's 70% of them who think that GGG will prevail in this fight. And there's only 26.7% who think that it is going to be Canelo Alvarez who will win this fight. This is the opposite of what the odds are suggesting in betting platforms with Canelo having only 1.20 and Golovkin having a very high one with 4.10. This GGG odds must be very attractive to the majority of those who joined the poll.

Because majority thinks that GGG can still win this fight despite his age. And in the Murata fight, he shows that he can still fight at high level and has the punching power.

And perhaps that fans here hated Canelo because he feels that he is so good, but arrogant. His lost to Bivol might bring him back to his feet but who knows. He started to bad mouth GGG in their press conference and still counts those 2 victories he had (but for some of us, it's questionable win).

[Sithara007]

Because majority thinks that GGG can still win this fight despite his age. And in the Murata fight, he shows that he can still fight at high level and has the punching power.

And perhaps that fans here hated Canelo because he feels that he is so good, but arrogant. His lost to Bivol might bring him back to his feet but who knows. He started to bad mouth GGG in their press conference and still counts those 2 victories he had (but for some of us, it's questionable win).

I am one of those who voted for GGG, because I really want him to win. But at the same time, I know that Canelo has a higher probability. If this fight was happening 5 years ago, then I would have said that Golovkin would have kicked the shit out of Canelo. But this is 2022, and not 2017. Golovkin is 40 years old and age takes its toll. I guess people like me voted for Golovkin, partly because we believe that the first two fights were stolen from him by the biased jury. And also because Canelo ran away from the third fight for so long.

[Fundamentals Of]

I'm surprised the majority of the poll participants are actually voting on GGG to win this rematch. There's 70% of them who think that GGG will prevail in this fight. And there's only 26.7% who think that it is going to be Canelo Alvarez who will win this fight. This is the opposite of what the odds are suggesting in betting platforms with Canelo having only 1.20 and Golovkin having a very high one with 4.10. This GGG odds must be very attractive to the majority of those who joined the poll.

I can try you to explain why a lot of people cheer GGG to win, or wish to see Canelo loosing. Imho, because people are fed up with Canelo. Not because he is arrogant or bad boxer, but because they want to see other guy on top. Before fight with Bivol, Canelo won his other opponent in rather easy manner. He was not doing 100% of what he was capable of. People wish to see him loosing and climbing back on top. Like in Rocky, first he was beaten, then he returns stronger. People need more drama, then "another boxer is going to be beaten by Canelo this evening".

I guess it is more of the controversies surrounding both of their previous fights that are benefitting Canelo. The first fight was considered a rob out. Although GGG won in one judge, the rest declared the fight a draw. But the stats showed GGG ahead of Canelo. And then there was Canelo's suspension because of illegal substance before their rematch. And when the rematch happened, it was still controversial. And many are still crying out that GGG is again robbed of a win. Again, GGG is ahead in terms of punches landed.

[btc_angela]

I'm surprised the majority of the poll participants are actually voting on GGG to win this rematch. There's 70% of them who think that GGG will prevail in this fight. And there's only 26.7% who think that it is going to be Canelo Alvarez who will win this fight. This is the opposite of what the odds are suggesting in betting platforms with Canelo having only 1.20 and Golovkin having a very high one with 4.10. This GGG odds must be very attractive to the majority of those who joined the poll.

I can try you to explain why a lot of people cheer GGG to win, or wish to see Canelo loosing. Imho, because people are fed up with Canelo. Not because he is arrogant or bad boxer, but because they want to see other guy on top. Before fight with Bivol, Canelo won his other opponent in rather easy manner. He was not doing 100% of what he was capable of. People wish to see him loosing and climbing back on top. Like in Rocky, first he was beaten, then he returns stronger. People need more drama, then "another boxer is going to be beaten by Canelo this evening".

I guess it is more of the controversies surrounding both of their previous fights that are benefitting Canelo. The first fight was considered a rob out. Although GGG won in one judge, the rest declared the fight a draw. But the stats showed GGG ahead of Canelo. And then there was Canelo's suspension because of illegal substance before their rematch. And when the rematch happened, it was still controversial. And many are still crying out that GGG is again robbed of a win. Again, GGG is ahead in terms of punches landed.

Yeah, as what we say, numbers don't lie, and GGG punch output was sure enough to put him on the W column against Canelo, but the judges thinks otherwise. And most of the boxing fans also see GGG winning the first.

And that was critical as well, tainted meat and PeD's accusation on Canelo which he clearly dismisses and the organization sided on him (maybe bias again???). Enough for the fans to really trigger something that they want GGG to win in this fight.

[Pamadar]

Yeah, as what we say, numbers don't lie, and GGG punch output was sure enough to put him on the W column against Canelo, but the judges thinks otherwise. And most of the boxing fans also see GGG winning the first.

And that was critical as well, tainted meat and PeD's accusation on Canelo which he clearly dismisses and the organization sided on him (maybe bias again???). Enough for the fans to really trigger something that they want GGG to win in this fight.

Fans will always aim to see GGG taking down Canelo. They will be more on the side that GGG is really a good competitor to Canelo.

We will only know if they are right or it's still Canelo will win and will put a dot on this matter,
The good catch here, if GGG wins, it's possible to have another money fight for both fighters
with how eager the fans promoters will use that great advantage to make more money from these
two warriors.

[Vaculin]

Yeah, as what we say, numbers don't lie, and GGG punch output was sure enough to put him on the W column against Canelo, but the judges thinks otherwise. And most of the boxing fans also see GGG winning the first.

And that was critical as well, tainted meat and PeD's accusation on Canelo which he clearly dismisses and the organization sided on him (maybe bias again???). Enough for the fans to really trigger something that they want GGG to win in this fight.

Fans will always aim to see GGG taking down Canelo. They will be more on the side that GGG is really a good competitor to Canelo.

We will only know if they are right or it's still Canelo will win and will put a dot on this matter,
The good catch here, if GGG wins, it's possible to have another money fight for both fighters
with how eager the fans promoters will use that great advantage to make more money from these
two warriors.

That would be big news if that will happen, GGG is not expected to win by many because Canelo won the last fight and therefore GGG is now a heavy underdog, maybe because of his age too, that's another factor. GGG will win, his career is not over as for sure he will always be willing to give Canelo another fight and they will both big money from that fight.

[TopTort777]

That would be big news if that will happen, GGG is not expected to win by many because Canelo won the last fight and therefore GGG is now a heavy underdog, maybe because of his age too, that's another factor. GGG will win, his career is not over as for sure he will always be willing to give Canelo another fight and they will both big money from that fight.

You are wrong. Either you are speaking about Canelos last career fight, you are wrong, because he has lost to Bivol. Or if you are speaking about GGG vs Canelo 2 fight, then Canelo was not an obvious winner, because one of judges was completely blind or this fight was bought.

I would say, that both fighters have identical chances to win, no matter what odds bookies give. Both have huge experience background, both are skilled. Everyone are giving Canelo an advantage, because of GGG age. Like Canelo has better reflexes, speed. But Canelo is now different from what he was in their second fight.

[Hypnosis00]

That would be big news if that will happen, GGG is not expected to win by many because Canelo won the last fight and therefore GGG is now a heavy underdog, maybe because of his age too, that's another factor. GGG will win, his career is not over as for sure he will always be willing to give Canelo another fight and they will both big money from that fight.

You are wrong. Either you are speaking about Canelos last career fight, you are wrong, because he has lost to Bivol. Or if you are speaking about GGG vs Canelo 2 fight, then Canelo was not an obvious winner, because one of judges was completely blind or this fight was bought.

I would say, that both fighters have identical chances to win, no matter what odds bookies give. Both have huge experience background, both are skilled. Everyone are giving Canelo an advantage, because of GGG age. Like Canelo has better reflexes, speed. But Canelo is now different from what he was in their second fight.

What bookies think is likely the voice of the majority, and with the current odds below, that says Canelo has a very high percentage of winning, it will be an upset if GGG will win.

https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-gennady-golovkin-3-odds

Favorite          Odds         Underdog   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -450         Gennadiy Golovkin   +300

It was indeed a controvertial fight in their 2nd fight, so if we back GGG to win, then we should take that +300, should be an opportunity.

[Daltonik]

well, while I don't see a real opportunity to evaluate the odds for a fight between Canelo vs Golovkin, it's still too far away, so now it's just speculation, many boxing experts believe that Golovkin can only secure his victory ahead of schedule, it seems to me that he can try to invest as much as possible in the upcoming fight and in case of victory announce the end of your career.

[bittraffic]

The bookmakers don't usually get it wrong. If the odds meant Canelo has the favorable odds, it must be true.

I also look at it unexpecttedly why the votes for GGG to win. Canelo is a bad ass fighter.  GGG's win against Murata is sort of a fluke. Him facing a real threat ones again will make him fold after a body punch.

[inthelongrun]

The bookmakers don't usually get it wrong. If the odds meant Canelo has the favorable odds, it must be true.

True. It is really hard to compete with the betting odds. It's not like some experts and celebrities just predicting the outcome of this fight without millions at stake.   

I also look at it unexpecttedly why the votes for GGG to win. Canelo is a bad ass fighter.  GGG's win against Murata is sort of a fluke. Him facing a real threat ones again will make him fold after a body punch.

From the look on GGG's face after getting hit by Murata's solid shots, I also think he will fold if it was Canelo. I am not discounting Murata, he was a legit world champion. But there's a difference between good and great.

I'm a huge GGG fan but I voted for Canelo due to his age. I don't have a bet yet because the odds for Canelo are too low. I might consider Canelo by KO/TKO here. But I'm still hoping GGG causes an upset and then retires for good.

[Shamm]

I'm surprised the majority of the poll participants are actually voting on GGG to win this rematch. There's 70% of them who think that GGG will prevail in this fight. And there's only 26.7% who think that it is going to be Canelo Alvarez who will win this fight. This is the opposite of what the odds are suggesting in betting platforms with Canelo having only 1.20 and Golovkin having a very high one with 4.10. This GGG odds must be very attractive to the majority of those who joined the poll.

@ 4.10 that's going to attract more gamblers and fans to bring out decent amount of money to bet for GGG, a lot of people still believe

that even GGG is no longer on his prime, he can still make a big damage if Canelo will  be careless during the fight, and with that sweet odd

they are willing to spare and risk some amount of their money to favor GGG. Though bookies have other way of weighting the potential

outcome and continue to place Canelo as the favorite.

Indeed age doesn't matter if the opponent is careless even though ggg is not in his prime years but for sure a chance of winning is very high and also if canelo is over satisfied or over confident for sure ggg will the the belt as we all know that ggg is not just easy opponent he can deal more pain by his punches so canelo must take this fight serious and more accurate with a good plan to win the match and claim the belt.

[Sithara007]

As of now, the odds sound crazy for me. 4.10 for Golovkin win? Remember that he had the advantage during the first and second fights (although jury helped Canelo). Despite such a performance, odds are so unfavorable. Doesn't make any sense. I was expecting biased odds, partly because of Mexican and Hispanic support for Canelo within the United States. But this has gone too far. For Golovkin, the odds are now so attractive that anyone who doesn't place a bet in his favor will be making a big mistake.

[freedomgo]

I see no interest Canelo vs Bivol 2. Their first fight was enough to tell who is better. But as to third fight against GGG, I dont know what Canelo should do next or who should he fight. Cleaning again whole middleweight division is boring, moving up - perhaps is a good idea, moving down - his opponent will be extra fast and pumped Canelo could have more troubles than in LH.

Couldn't agree more, Canelo was defeated comfortably because that is not his comfortable division. Canelo might be still lethal but he will have a hard time in-terms of speed because he is adding weights to his body that would take a toll to his agility and aggressiveness, he shouldn't purse a rematch because the case will be the same and he will just adding another defeat in his record. If there was no help from judges, I bet the scores will be much wider in gap.

[stadus]

Agreed! Canelo is not that young anymore when he fought Mayweather and it wasn't his 1st time fighting a heavy name that time or 1st time fighting outside Mexico, people should stop patronizing Canelo because he's not really standing where he is now if he didn't got some help with the judges along with some connection he established in the industry.

Based on his last 7 fights with the exception of his loss against Bivol he wins by knockouts and unanimous decisions he deserves those wins and where he is he is right now, we must give credit to the guy he fights who is holding the title unfortunately he fell short on his quest in the heavyweight division

Yes, you have a point. There is indeed some fights where Canelo has no doubt deserved that win because it was won comfortably and his foes that time wasn't an easy to defeat either. He surely deserved to be an undisputed fighter in supper middle weight but he should know his boundaries too and LHW is literally not for him.

[agustina2]

@ 4.10 that's going to attract more gamblers and fans to bring out decent amount of money to bet for GGG, a lot of people still believe that even GGG is no longer on his prime,

That was good odds. GGG having @4.10 is something unusual even though he is up again the prime Canelo Alvarez. I hope for more increased odds while the fight is approaching. Still, a long way to go and there should be odds adjustment at both.

But in any case, taking @4.10 odds should be considered picking now.

Aside from that, others maybe will try to support GGG for the last time just in case he will retire if he loses to Canelo in this fight.

[Kemarit]

@ 4.10 that's going to attract more gamblers and fans to bring out decent amount of money to bet for GGG, a lot of people still believe that even GGG is no longer on his prime,

That was good odds. GGG having @4.10 is something unusual even though he is up again the prime Canelo Alvarez. I hope for more increased odds while the fight is approaching. Still, a long way to go and there should be odds adjustment at both.

But in any case, taking @4.10 odds should be considered picking now.

Aside from that, others maybe will try to support GGG for the last time just in case he will retire if he loses to Canelo in this fight.

I don't think it's unusual though, if my memory serves me right, that's about the same odds or close enough odds on their second fight.

Sports bookies knows that eventhough Canelo lost to Bivol, he is still in his prime and duplicate again the win (although it's debatable). And this is Canelo's best weight which they are going to contest to, so all advantage points to Canelo and that's why the huge gap in the odds.

[Sithara007]

@ 4.10 that's going to attract more gamblers and fans to bring out decent amount of money to bet for GGG, a lot of people still believe that even GGG is no longer on his prime,

That was good odds. GGG having @4.10 is something unusual even though he is up again the prime Canelo Alvarez. I hope for more increased odds while the fight is approaching. Still, a long way to go and there should be odds adjustment at both.

But in any case, taking @4.10 odds should be considered picking now.

Aside from that, others maybe will try to support GGG for the last time just in case he will retire if he loses to Canelo in this fight.

Golovkin has so far given no hint of retirement. He is training so hard, and despite his age he looks extremely fit (when compared to other athletes of this age). Even if he loses against Canelo, he may chose to continue for another 2-3 years IMO. At this point, I don't see any reason for him to retire. If somehow he manages an upset win against Canelo, then the question of retirement won't even arise. BTW, what was the age when Mayweather announced his retirement? If I am not wrong, he was 42 when he retired.