[Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17

[robelneo]

This is the current result of the voting on our poll

Canelo Alvarez   - 9 (26.5%)
GGG   - 24 (70.6%)
Draw   - 1 (2.9%)
Total Voters: 34

We have GGG winning here but on Bernard Hopkin's prediction he confidently predicts that Canelo will win against GGG by stoppage, this is a bold prediction

“I say about a seventh, possibly sixth round. I don’t see this being a fight that’s going to be exciting as the first two.

“I think this will be a clear, clear, decision that doesn’t go 12 rounds.

“So I am predicting that Canelo will find his groove and make it look even easier and then get a stoppage around the sixth or seventh round.”

Really bold prediction considering that GGG is coming on a very strong showing against Murata while Canelo was dominantly beaten by Bivol I don't know what Hopkin saw on GGG that he'll be knocked out by Canelo and Canelo will easily beat GGG, I hope someone challenges Hopkins on his prediction.

[Jating]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

[robelneo]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

I respect Hopkins he has done a lot for boxing as a boxer and as a promoter, he could have made a prediction that Canelo will win against GGG by the decision but for Canelo knocking out GGG easily I just don't know where this coming from, that's to much confidence on Canelo and a big disrespect for GGG, he should back it up if he is confident on his prediction by daring anyone for 1 million bets, he might eat his own words I am on the community that GGG still has what it takes to beat him after GGG has never been dominantly beaten or even knocked out.

[mirakal]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

I respect Hopkins he has done a lot for boxing as a boxer and as a promoter, he could have made a prediction that Canelo will win against GGG by the decision but for Canelo knocking out GGG easily I just don't know where this coming from, that's to much confidence on Canelo and a big disrespect for GGG, he should back it up if he is confident on his prediction by daring anyone for 1 million bets, he might eat his own words I am on the community that GGG still has what it takes to beat him after GGG has never been dominantly beaten or even knocked out.

He might be thinking that GGG is already old and Canelo who came from a dissapointing lose will try to redeem himself. I know he will be wrong because GGG is not an easy opponent, although Canelo won the last fight but the last two fights was very controversial, which means no clear winner in the eyes of the fans. 

[Baofeng]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

I respect Hopkins he has done a lot for boxing as a boxer and as a promoter, he could have made a prediction that Canelo will win against GGG by the decision but for Canelo knocking out GGG easily I just don't know where this coming from, that's to much confidence on Canelo and a big disrespect for GGG, he should back it up if he is confident on his prediction by daring anyone for 1 million bets, he might eat his own words I am on the community that GGG still has what it takes to beat him after GGG has never been dominantly beaten or even knocked out.

He might be thinking that GGG is already old and Canelo who came from a dissapointing lose will try to redeem himself. I know he will be wrong because GGG is not an easy opponent, although Canelo won the last fight but the last two fights was very controversial, which means no clear winner in the eyes of the fans.  

No disrespect to Hopkins and others like Roy Jones, however, let me pointed out Bernard predictions on Canelo vs Bivol,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPMaiYHu9c

“He smashes him. Mashed potatoes all over the place. Another smash event, smashes him."

Fast forward to 0:24 and you will hear what his thoughts on the fight and according to him Canelo will "smashed" Bivol. But the complete opposite happens in the fight, and Canelo lost the fight. So he got completely wrong with his prediction, just saying.

[Yamifoud]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

I respect Hopkins he has done a lot for boxing as a boxer and as a promoter, he could have made a prediction that Canelo will win against GGG by the decision but for Canelo knocking out GGG easily I just don't know where this coming from, that's to much confidence on Canelo and a big disrespect for GGG, he should back it up if he is confident on his prediction by daring anyone for 1 million bets, he might eat his own words I am on the community that GGG still has what it takes to beat him after GGG has never been dominantly beaten or even knocked out.

He might be thinking that GGG is already old and Canelo who came from a dissapointing lose will try to redeem himself. I know he will be wrong because GGG is not an easy opponent, although Canelo won the last fight but the last two fights was very controversial, which means no clear winner in the eyes of the fans.  

No disrespect to Hopkins and others like Roy Jones, however, let me pointed out Bernard predictions on Canelo vs Bivol,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPMaiYHu9c

“He smashes him. Mashed potatoes all over the place. Another smash event, smashes him."

Fast forward to 0:24 and you will hear what his thoughts on the fight and according to him Canelo will "smashed" Bivol. But the complete opposite happens in the fight, and Canelo lost the fight. So he got completely wrong with his prediction, just saying.

Hopkins is like the Charles Barkley of the NBA who's prediction are completely wrong, LOL.. Although they are great boxers, but they can never guarantee who will win the fight since both boxers are capable to fight even if we have the favorite and the underdog.

[TopTort777]

Or, people here are tired of Canelo winning fight and wants to see him being beaten, followed by a tremendous recovery with a beautiful KO of some top3-top5 of middleweight. Or people here wants to see GGG wins and retiring after a win over his toughest opponent.

I have voted for GGG, because I just want to see Canelo loosing. That is so simple. I just want this guy to go down from the sky to earth and be among regular people. I am just tired of his "I am the greatest", "My legacy", "I am number 1 in boxing".

[carlisle1]

Or, people here are tired of Canelo winning fight and wants to see him being beaten, followed by a tremendous recovery with a beautiful KO of some top3-top5 of middleweight. Or people here wants to see GGG wins and retiring after a win over his toughest opponent.

I have voted for GGG, because I just want to see Canelo loosing. That is so simple. I just want this guy to go down from the sky to earth and be among regular people. I am just tired of his "I am the greatest", "My legacy", "I am number 1 in boxing".

You said it right, there are people like you who wanted him to go down, while promoters would love to see more fans and gamblers

to engage a lot of possible converted money when people start of talking about the incoming fight. We really don't know how both fighters will

show and how they will deliver their strategy. All we wanted is to see them both healthy and convince the fans that they deserve the win

in this third time of facing each other inside the ring.

[harizen]

I understand your point as in the first place, the trilogy will not be initiated and planned for long if there are no doubts and questions about the first result on which Canelo claimed he won already twice that's why before, he's not interested in the trilogy. In fairness though with Canelo, he really shows explosiveness in that fight but it's just that, the entire match is close that any judges will have difficulty scoring.

And since Canelo is the current "cash cow" there are speculations and rumors that judges might be favored him. But that won't be easy as in the event that GGG shows pure dominance in most rounds, I doubt there will be an unfair judgment on the result.

I raised this topic (jury bias) a few weeks back, because I saw the same during the Bivol vs Canelo fight. Bivol completely dominated the fight between these two, but in the end the scorecard(115-113, 115-113, 115-113) was a lot closer than what I thought it should have been. The writing on the wall is clear. Canelo is the cash cow and he needs to be saved at any cost. A second consecutive defeat will not only sink his career, but will also cause huge losses to firms such as Golden Boy and DAZN. 

You have a point though and I think there are lots of speculators who also ended up to that conclusion.

Despite Bivol turning Canelo into a punching bag and making the latter becomes frustrated, the final tally score is still close.

However, since it's clear as the sky that Bivol dominates Canelo in the most rounds of their fight, it does not make sense to manipulate the scores as that will create havoc as the fight should be a landslide win by Bivol.

But disregarding that speculation of a possible "rigged", I'm expecting that the result of the fight of this trilogy should be fair and square.

[goinmerry]

Or, people here are tired of Canelo winning fight and wants to see him being beaten, followed by a tremendous recovery with a beautiful KO of some top3-top5 of middleweight. Or people here wants to see GGG wins and retiring after a win over his toughest opponent.

That Canelo's continuous winning streak got already spoiled by Dmitry Bivol last May 2022.

That was Canelo's first loss since being defeated by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September 2013. Around 15 wins of him within 9 years was being cut by Bivol. That was a tough winning streak but Canelo founds a good opponent which even tagged as a heavy underdog prior to that fight, and the underdog is Dmitry Bivol.

I have voted for GGG, because I just want to see Canelo loosing. That is so simple. I just want this guy to go down from the sky to earth and be among regular people. I am just tired of his "I am the greatest", "My legacy", "I am number 1 in boxing".

Looks like the same reason with others as well. Canelo Alvarez on their last media press conference about the trilogy throws unnecessary foul words to GGG which the latter found unusual to him as he knows Canelo will just trash talk if his opponent started to trash talk him.

Maybe to contribute to hype a fight because Canelo thinks he will not get the usual number of viewers to watch that fight compare to his average views since he came from a loss? Who knows. I found that Canelo trash talk too was not necessary and GGG is just silent. Good and humble response by him.

[agustina2]

I have voted for GGG, because I just want to see Canelo loosing. That is so simple. I just want this guy to go down from the sky to earth and be among regular people. I am just tired of his "I am the greatest", "My legacy", "I am number 1 in boxing".

Although I see Canelo has the upper hand in this fight and more of having an advantage as currently, he is in his prime, same as you, I'm also rooting for GGG to win. Not because I hate Canelo or what but GGG only has a few shots left remaining in his career. Canelo if he loses here still has more fights to climb for stardom.

I also like to see another scene where Canelo is not announced as a winner by the referees. Maybe just for my own satisfaction, not a bad attitude on me I guess. Like to see him being silent again after a loss. That might make him more humble especially when he is still climbing the rank. Being on top makes Canelo's head big thinking no one in his league can take him down.

But I just want to clarify again that I don't have any hate towards Canelo. As I mentioned, I just want to see him lose for my own satisfaction.

[Sithara007]

LOL.. I can see a lot of posts against Canelo. Being a fan of Golovkin myself, I could agree to many of these posts. Canelo can't be blamed for what the jury did. But in the end, he benefited from it and refused to acknowledge the fact that Golovkin was robbed of a win. And we saw a repeat of that during his fight against Bivol. The only difference was that Bivol completely dominated that fight and despite the fact that the jury tried really hard to score a win for Canelo, it was simply not in their hands.

[TopTort777]

Or, people here are tired of Canelo winning fight and wants to see him being beaten, followed by a tremendous recovery with a beautiful KO of some top3-top5 of middleweight. Or people here wants to see GGG wins and retiring after a win over his toughest opponent.

That Canelo's continuous winning streak got already spoiled by Dmitry Bivol last May 2022.

That was Canelo's first loss since being defeated by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September 2013. Around 15 wins of him within 9 years was being cut by Bivol. That was a tough winning streak but Canelo founds a good opponent which even tagged as a heavy underdog prior to that fight, and the underdog is Dmitry Bivol.

I have voted for GGG, because I just want to see Canelo loosing. That is so simple. I just want this guy to go down from the sky to earth and be among regular people. I am just tired of his "I am the greatest", "My legacy", "I am number 1 in boxing".

Looks like the same reason with others as well. Canelo Alvarez on their last media press conference about the trilogy throws unnecessary foul words to GGG which the latter found unusual to him as he knows Canelo will just trash talk if his opponent started to trash talk him.

Maybe to contribute to hype a fight because Canelo thinks he will not get the usual number of viewers to watch that fight compare to his average views since he came from a loss? Who knows. I found that Canelo trash talk too was not necessary and GGG is just silent. Good and humble response by him.

I know that Canelo has losses in his boxing record, but the point was that people remember him winning all the time. Canelo won here, Canelo won there, Canelo won that belt, Canelo got that car, Canelo earned that much in the last fight and etc. Canelo everywhere. People are tired of his success. As if you see two people tic tac toe, you see someone is winning 50 times in a row and you start to cheer for the guy that looses all the time.

[btc_angela]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

I respect Hopkins he has done a lot for boxing as a boxer and as a promoter, he could have made a prediction that Canelo will win against GGG by the decision but for Canelo knocking out GGG easily I just don't know where this coming from, that's to much confidence on Canelo and a big disrespect for GGG, he should back it up if he is confident on his prediction by daring anyone for 1 million bets, he might eat his own words I am on the community that GGG still has what it takes to beat him after GGG has never been dominantly beaten or even knocked out.

He might be thinking that GGG is already old and Canelo who came from a dissapointing lose will try to redeem himself. I know he will be wrong because GGG is not an easy opponent, although Canelo won the last fight but the last two fights was very controversial, which means no clear winner in the eyes of the fans.  

No disrespect to Hopkins and others like Roy Jones, however, let me pointed out Bernard predictions on Canelo vs Bivol,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPMaiYHu9c

“He smashes him. Mashed potatoes all over the place. Another smash event, smashes him."

Fast forward to 0:24 and you will hear what his thoughts on the fight and according to him Canelo will "smashed" Bivol. But the complete opposite happens in the fight, and Canelo lost the fight. So he got completely wrong with his prediction, just saying.

Hopkins is like the Charles Barkley of the NBA who's prediction are completely wrong, LOL.. Although they are great boxers, but they can never guarantee who will win the fight since both boxers are capable to fight even if we have the favorite and the underdog.

I think this is only for the Canelo vs Bivol prediction, Bivol was really the underdog in that fight and even pro boxers pick Canelo to win, and he should be dominating Bivol.

But going on to this fight, for sure in the beginning we really like Canelo, but when he started to be the cash cow and can get all the things he want, like being tested with PED but he was able to get away with it without any repercussions. Then he become arrogant and brandish and thinks that no one can beat him not even GGG. And it was clear day and night robbery by the jury, in the first fight and then worst on the second. So for us boxing fans, we want to see GGG win with a statement, stoppage/TKO/KO.

[Sithara007]

I think this is only for the Canelo vs Bivol prediction, Bivol was really the underdog in that fight and even pro boxers pick Canelo to win, and he should be dominating Bivol.

But going on to this fight, for sure in the beginning we really like Canelo, but when he started to be the cash cow and can get all the things he want, like being tested with PED but he was able to get away with it without any repercussions. Then he become arrogant and brandish and thinks that no one can beat him not even GGG. And it was clear day and night robbery by the jury, in the first fight and then worst on the second. So for us boxing fans, we want to see GGG win with a statement, stoppage/TKO/KO.

Although I never made a bet for the Canelo vs Bivol fight, I never expected Bivol to win. There was so much hype related to Canelo before the match and most of the sportsbooks gave very low odds for Bivol. Everywhere I could read posts claiming that Canelo was unbeatable. And what happened during the match was something entirely different. Bivol completely dominated the match. I watched the highlights, and I don't think that Canelo won a single round out of a total of 12. It was completely one-sided.

[Jawhead999]

Although I never made a bet for the Canelo vs Bivol fight, I never expected Bivol to win. There was so much hype related to Canelo before the match and most of the sportsbooks gave very low odds for Bivol. Everywhere I could read posts claiming that Canelo was unbeatable. And what happened during the match was something entirely different. Bivol completely dominated the match. I watched the highlights, and I don't think that Canelo won a single round out of a total of 12. It was completely one-sided.

IMO Canelo only won for few rounds, at least 2 rounds on the first and the last since he want to dominating Bivol. But the rest I'd say Bivol won the whole rounds, so the point should be Bivol 118-110 Canelo, but as we can see the three judges score the fight for Bivol 115-113 Canelo, it was really close score lol [1]

That's why I say multiple times the only want GGG win this fight is by stoppage, it's impossible to win via decision with his fight toe to toe style.

[1] https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-vs-dmitry-bivol-official-scorecards--166061

[Hypnosis00]

I think this is only for the Canelo vs Bivol prediction, Bivol was really the underdog in that fight and even pro boxers pick Canelo to win, and he should be dominating Bivol.

But going on to this fight, for sure in the beginning we really like Canelo, but when he started to be the cash cow and can get all the things he want, like being tested with PED but he was able to get away with it without any repercussions. Then he become arrogant and brandish and thinks that no one can beat him not even GGG. And it was clear day and night robbery by the jury, in the first fight and then worst on the second. So for us boxing fans, we want to see GGG win with a statement, stoppage/TKO/KO.

Although I never made a bet for the Canelo vs Bivol fight, I never expected Bivol to win. There was so much hype related to Canelo before the match and most of the sportsbooks gave very low odds for Bivol. Everywhere I could read posts claiming that Canelo was unbeatable. And what happened during the match was something entirely different. Bivol completely dominated the match. I watched the highlights, and I don't think that Canelo won a single round out of a total of 12. It was completely one-sided.

Most of us thought that he would win because he came from a big victory and has become an undisputed fighter, it was his first attempt to move up in weight. So we were so excited to see him fight a natural big and Bivol IMO was not popular so we didn't study him so much, but what we saw was Bivol dominating the fight, clearly.

[Fredomago]

I think this is only for the Canelo vs Bivol prediction, Bivol was really the underdog in that fight and even pro boxers pick Canelo to win, and he should be dominating Bivol.

But going on to this fight, for sure in the beginning we really like Canelo, but when he started to be the cash cow and can get all the things he want, like being tested with PED but he was able to get away with it without any repercussions. Then he become arrogant and brandish and thinks that no one can beat him not even GGG. And it was clear day and night robbery by the jury, in the first fight and then worst on the second. So for us boxing fans, we want to see GGG win with a statement, stoppage/TKO/KO.

Although I never made a bet for the Canelo vs Bivol fight, I never expected Bivol to win. There was so much hype related to Canelo before the match and most of the sportsbooks gave very low odds for Bivol. Everywhere I could read posts claiming that Canelo was unbeatable. And what happened during the match was something entirely different. Bivol completely dominated the match. I watched the highlights, and I don't think that Canelo won a single round out of a total of 12. It was completely one-sided.

Yup, not a single round but from the judges score card it's still close, not sure how those people give score to both fighters I was in the impression that Bivol will received a dominating score but that's already out from the topic, and moving back, aside from the age gap these two fighters expected to bring good entertainment the inner lust to win against each other will flow for sure.

The trilogy might conclude these long rivalries or if GGG disappoint Canelo, that will be a continuation.

We will need to wait and see if what future will bring to these two boxers..

[Japinat]

I agree, it was a bold prediction by one of the legends, Bernard Hopkins. Although Canelo is no longer with them (Golden Boy), he is still ion the bandwagon,  . So we respect that.

But then again, boxers, boxing 'experts' and fans have its own speculation. Even in our community, and for us we wanted to see GGG winning the fight, it will be good if this is going to be by stoppage or knock out. But we wanted to see at the end, his hands being raised as the winner.

I respect Hopkins he has done a lot for boxing as a boxer and as a promoter, he could have made a prediction that Canelo will win against GGG by the decision but for Canelo knocking out GGG easily I just don't know where this coming from, that's to much confidence on Canelo and a big disrespect for GGG, he should back it up if he is confident on his prediction by daring anyone for 1 million bets, he might eat his own words I am on the community that GGG still has what it takes to beat him after GGG has never been dominantly beaten or even knocked out.

He might be thinking that GGG is already old and Canelo who came from a dissapointing lose will try to redeem himself. I know he will be wrong because GGG is not an easy opponent, although Canelo won the last fight but the last two fights was very controversial, which means no clear winner in the eyes of the fans. 

Yes, that is why people wanted the trilogy years ago because it's very unclear who dominates more as we can see that they are both having a hard time proving to each other who is much dominant. Gladly, a trilogy was given to us but it's somehow late already because GGG is not that young anymore but I can still say that he still has what it takes to defeat Canelo and gave the latter a hard time.

Of course, there is a chance that GGG will be defeated and we are not that blind not to see it, but what Hopkins said was an overstatement because it will be really a hard task to defeat GGG by a KO.

[Kemarit]

I think this is only for the Canelo vs Bivol prediction, Bivol was really the underdog in that fight and even pro boxers pick Canelo to win, and he should be dominating Bivol.

But going on to this fight, for sure in the beginning we really like Canelo, but when he started to be the cash cow and can get all the things he want, like being tested with PED but he was able to get away with it without any repercussions. Then he become arrogant and brandish and thinks that no one can beat him not even GGG. And it was clear day and night robbery by the jury, in the first fight and then worst on the second. So for us boxing fans, we want to see GGG win with a statement, stoppage/TKO/KO.

Although I never made a bet for the Canelo vs Bivol fight, I never expected Bivol to win. There was so much hype related to Canelo before the match and most of the sportsbooks gave very low odds for Bivol. Everywhere I could read posts claiming that Canelo was unbeatable. And what happened during the match was something entirely different. Bivol completely dominated the match. I watched the highlights, and I don't think that Canelo won a single round out of a total of 12. It was completely one-sided.

Right, and just imagine him wanted to go as high as Cruiserweight and fight the champion at a catchweight and then Sulaiman readily agreed on it (because it's Canelo Alvarez). But then he settled on Light Heavyweight on Bivol. He could have taken Beterviev, but maybe he thinks that Bivol is the easier of the two, it really backfired on him. So he goes back to 168 lbs now and accepted the long overdue trilogy with GGG to bring his hype back.