Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season

[LGD2Business]

Nobody's value rises suddenly just because he came into the game later in the national team in a match. Those lists are just for show. What players are there, the market value is very high, but if you try to sell it, no one buys it. The high valuation of young players shows that they are promising, but first they need to prove themselves. Otherwise, you're just bragging about the marketcap value.
Young players coming out in Türkiye don't take good care of themselves. If they don't go to Europe, they cannot develop. Those who leave also come back somehow. The number of successful Turkish players is very small. Look, there is talk that even Çağlar Söyüncü will return. A year ago when he was named one of the best defenders in the Premier League.

[Ratash]

Nobody's value rises suddenly just because he came into the game later in the national team in a match. Those lists are just for show. What players are there, the market value is very high, but if you try to sell it, no one buys it. The high valuation of young players shows that they are promising, but first they need to prove themselves. Otherwise, you're just bragging about the marketcap value.
Young players coming out in Türkiye don't take good care of themselves. If they don't go to Europe, they cannot develop. Those who leave also come back somehow. The number of successful Turkish players is very small. Look, there is talk that even Çağlar Söyüncü will return. A year ago when he was named one of the best defenders in the Premier League.

Yes i agree that the player market value should be measured on his performance with both his team and national team and taking in consideration the league he play in its obvious that playing in one of the top five leagues is not the same as playing in the turkish league but it does not mean its a bad one but in my opinion its in the top ten, recently a lot of young players are showing good performance and am sure some of them will be able to make it to big clubs just like cengiz under did.

[xzone]

İsmail Yüksek's market value has reached 3 million Euros. Fenerbahçe are very rich in terms of squad wealth in the midfield. Arda Guler, Miguel Crespo, Ferdi Kadıoğlu, Emre Mor, Willian Arao, Joao Pedro, Lincoln, İrfan Can. All of these players have the capacity to play in the first 11 players.

Fenerbahçe give young players the opportunity to develop. Ferdi Kadıoğlu and Arda Güler are very lucky to play in Fenerbahçe. In Galatasaray, Kerem Aktürkoğlu receives intense criticism when he plays badly in a match. Fenerbahçe are more tolerant of young players.

There were news about İsmail Yüksek in many places in the press, there is a perception that he is a very successful football player because his price suddenly increased. I admit that he is still a young player, but he is not 18 years old. 23 is already the age for many football players to start shining.
I think it's normal for his price to increase because he scored a goal in the national team and became a little more recognizable

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

There were news about İsmail Yüksek in many places in the press, there is a perception that he is a very successful football player because his price suddenly increased. I admit that he is still a young player, but he is not 18 years old. 23 is already the age for many football players to start shining.
I think it's normal for his price to increase because he scored a goal in the national team and became a little more recognizable

İsmail Yüksek is one of the most talented players that Stefan Kuntz called to the national team. He didn't increase his value just because he scored a goal in the national team. He attracted attention because he kept his professional identity at a high level. İsmail Yüksek will be a very good football player for Fenerbahce and the national team for many years. I have no doubt about it.







The problem for me is that other clubs don't value young players enough. In Galatasaray, Kerem Aktürkoğlu gets reaction from the fans in almost every match. Beşiktaş lost Emirhan İlkhan and Serdar Saatçı to European clubs at the beginning of the season. Fenerbahce are doing the right things in these matters.

[Pierre 2]

National team fixtures are finally over and we are heading towards next week in league. As always I checked odds for next matches:
Ankaragücü 3.78
X 3.35
Başakşehir 1.79
This is pretty safe bet for Başakşehir and 1.79 isn't bad for Match with obvious favorite.

Kayserispor 3.02
X 3.25
Trabzonspor 2.07

I am expecting surprise with this match as Kayserispor's defensive line is very fine as they only conceded 5 goals. And they can beat good teams if they play well. I am for "1" Kayserispor defeating Trabzon. 3.02 as odd is great.

[Pulsar77]

Look, there is talk that even Çağlar Söyüncü will return. A year ago when he was named one of the best defenders in the Premier League.

Çağlar Söyüncü is one of the most talented defenders among Turkish defenders. He has grown from Menemen Bld Youth. He has played for Freiburg and Leicester so far. He was a really important part of Leicester lineup some time ago as well. But somehow his form started to drop down very much this season. He is not even in the subs now. Brendan Rodgers said that his performance in training wasn't good enough so he didn't prefer him in the EPL matches.

Now there are really rumours about him to return to Turkey. There was a rumour related to Galatasaray in the last transfer window. If he returns here it would be a big downgrade for him. I think he needs to improve his performance immediately and look for a team in Europe for himself as Leicester are likely to relegate from the league this season.

[Balmain]

National team fixtures are finally over and we are heading towards next week in league. As always I checked odds for next matches:
Ankaragücü 3.78
X 3.35
Başakşehir 1.79
This is pretty safe bet for Başakşehir and 1.79 isn't bad for Match with obvious favorite.

Kayserispor 3.02
X 3.25
Trabzonspor 2.07

I am expecting surprise with this match as Kayserispor's defensive line is very fine as they only conceded 5 goals. And they can beat good teams if they play well. I am for "1" Kayserispor defeating Trabzon. 3.02 as odd is great.

We're finally back in the leagues. I'm waiting for Başakşehir to win and I don't think it will come with a surprise result. On the other hand, as you said for the Trabzonspor, Kayserispor match, Kayserispor conceded few goals so far, I think they will continue this in the Trabzonspor match, I will probably go under 2.5 for this match.

[püsür]

You mentioned Beşiktaş's weakness in defence, which we can all agree I assume, although I think Fenerbahçe isn't that good at defending either. Jorge Jesus loves to play fully attacking football style, that doesn't let weak teams to exploit Fenerbahçe defence. But counter attacking teams can easily use it to their advantage. Beşiktaş is gonna be great exam that "total attacking" football has downsides. I think Beşiktaş is gonna get favorable result. But its my personal guess.

Beşiktaş don't give many positions to opponents, actually their overall defensive gameplay is good but there are a lot of personal mistakes. Right defender and goalkeeper positions are not reliable. You can fix goalkeeper problem, it's all about concentration and motivation. Ersin will come back stronger when he signs new contract. Mert Günok is back from a long injury, when he is ready we will see competition in the goalkeeper position. That make both players performance go up. But right defender position is a big mess. Every match there will be another player play in that position. Ismaël couldn't find a solution yet.
Fenerbahçe's defence have different problems but since they score a lot of goals that couldn't turn into a problem yet. They lost points in Ümraniyespor and Konyaspor games though. We will see how they defend against bigger teams though, derbies are always different and harder. There are a lot of factors. You can't really compare other games with derbies.

I exactly think thast there is a problem with Beşiktaş goalkeeper Ersin now. Its terrible when you have awesome defence line and you play well and suddenly your keeper can't do basic save and fucks it all up. Its what Ersin does now. Beşiktaş is very strong this season with new striker which I really like, they should show Ersin he SHOULD start performing better as soon as possible. Mert Günok's return is meaningless for now as he didn't play for so long but its good to try him in some unimportant matches, like Turkish cup matches for example.

The subject of Ersin Destanoğlu isvery complicated. It is said that he does not want to play due to contract problems. Managers are said to be bad influences. It is said that he wanted 1.4 million Euros and insisted on it. Frankly, he is a 21-year-old player and it is nice that such young players can play in big teams, but I think 1.4 million Euros is a lot. He has not performed that much to ask such an amount. In my opinion, he is an ordinary goalkeeper but Beşiktaş had to stuck with him. No good alternatives. This is very bad news for Beşiktaş, which is currently having big problems with the goalkeeper position. Beşiktaş has strengthened the offensive line, but they have big problems with the coach, defense and goalkeeper. I think there is little hope for this season. I wouldn't remotely consider them for my bettings.

[ILuckyGuyI]

At the weekend Galatasaray have one of their toughest games of the season. It is an away game against Adana Demirspor.

The current odds are like this:

Adana Demirspor: 2.60
Draw: 3.40
Galatasaray: 2.56

It is really hard to pick a side to win in this game. Galatasaray are outweighing their opponent by a small gap in my opinion but I'm not believing in them completely to win this. Adana Demirspor are in a really strong condition now. They are one of the most effective attacking teams above all else. When we consider that Galatasaray still have some defensive issues to solve it is alarming for them. But I can't say that Adana Demirspor are good at defending at the same time. Galatasaray have made important additions to the attacking line and Icardi can play a key role in this game. If they benefit from their defensive vulnerabilities they can still manage to get that win by a close goal difference. Both teams to score is another nice option to take into account.

[Captain Corporate]

And yet again, the Turkish national team had a horrible, disgusting game where they should have won with comfort and still managed to lose to a tiny micro opponent. Faroe Islands is a nation with less population totals than some stadiums in the world, and Turkey managed to lose. The idea that we could have some limitation on foreign players so that domestic players could grow doesnt work obviously, because it allows untalented people to find a way to show themselves and earn a lot. We should have no limitations on foreign players, so that turkish players would have to work much harder to get a place, or risk not being in there at all. This is not going well, and a chance is neede for sure, its a big must, otherwise it will only get worse.

[LGD2Business]

And yet again, the Turkish national team had a horrible, disgusting game where they should have won with comfort and still managed to lose to a tiny micro opponent. Faroe Islands is a nation with less population totals than some stadiums in the world, and Turkey managed to lose. The idea that we could have some limitation on foreign players so that domestic players could grow doesnt work obviously, because it allows untalented people to find a way to show themselves and earn a lot. We should have no limitations on foreign players, so that turkish players would have to work much harder to get a place, or risk not being in there at all. This is not going well, and a chance is neede for sure, its a big must, otherwise it will only get worse.

The bad course of the national team continues and they lose points even in such an easy group. Of course, the fact that the national team is bad decreases the value of the league. There are actually very good players in the league, but for some reason they cannot be selected for the national team. There is a serious planning problem.
As the quality of the league decreases, revenues and viewership rates decrease. Despite this, there are teams that can still bring world stars. Where is all this money coming from? Clubs are in debt more and more. If success doesn't come, and not every team can succeed, there will be only one champion, then serious economic problems await the clubs. Very few boards do sane work on this issue. We may see big problems at the end of the season.

[RealMalatesta]

And yet again, the Turkish national team had a horrible, disgusting game where they should have won with comfort and still managed to lose to a tiny micro opponent. Faroe Islands is a nation with less population totals than some stadiums in the world, and Turkey managed to lose. The idea that we could have some limitation on foreign players so that domestic players could grow doesnt work obviously, because it allows untalented people to find a way to show themselves and earn a lot. We should have no limitations on foreign players, so that turkish players would have to work much harder to get a place, or risk not being in there at all. This is not going well, and a chance is neede for sure, its a big must, otherwise it will only get worse.

Even this place is not right for taking this all because this thread is only dedicated for Turkish Super League, and we are talking about Turkey's national team performance but still needs to clear few things they were undefeated in this all group and there was no chance for them to dropped out from top rank just because of this they not play with full force in last two matches against Faroe Islands lost and Luxembourg draw now they are going to be qualified for League B in the next season.

In first four matches they not concede any goal and having conceded five goals in last two matches from here you can check how serious they were for these matches but still they need to work on few things and improve of quality is surely better.

[Slow death]

National team fixtures are finally over and we are heading towards next week in league. As always I checked odds for next matches:
Ankaragücü 3.78
X 3.35
Başakşehir 1.79
This is pretty safe bet for Başakşehir and 1.79 isn't bad for Match with obvious favorite.

Kayserispor 3.02
X 3.25
Trabzonspor 2.07

I am expecting surprise with this match as Kayserispor's defensive line is very fine as they only conceded 5 goals. And they can beat good teams if they play well. I am for "1" Kayserispor defeating Trabzon. 3.02 as odd is great.

after seeing your post I immediately went to stake.com to see the odds of these games, but it is very strange that for Başakşehir the odd has even gone up and is already at @1.87, taking into account that in the last games Başakşehir achieved 3 victories and 2 draws and you will be playing against an opponent who in the last games had 4 defeats and only 1 win this odd will be strange, why are bookmakers giving such a high odd for Başakşehir? Do you have any bad news for Başakşehir? I will wait to see more data and news before placing my bet for this game

about Trabzonspor's game, honestly if I were to bet on this game, I would go to BTTS if I have a good odd, so far the odds for BTTS are @1.60, and it's a risk that doesn't pay off

[Pierre 2]

National team fixtures are finally over and we are heading towards next week in league. As always I checked odds for next matches:
Ankaragücü 3.78
X 3.35
Başakşehir 1.79
This is pretty safe bet for Başakşehir and 1.79 isn't bad for Match with obvious favorite.

Kayserispor 3.02
X 3.25
Trabzonspor 2.07

I am expecting surprise with this match as Kayserispor's defensive line is very fine as they only conceded 5 goals. And they can beat good teams if they play well. I am for "1" Kayserispor defeating Trabzon. 3.02 as odd is great.

after seeing your post I immediately went to stake.com to see the odds of these games, but it is very strange that for Başakşehir the odd has even gone up and is already at @1.87, taking into account that in the last games Başakşehir achieved 3 victories and 2 draws and you will be playing against an opponent who in the last games had 4 defeats and only 1 win this odd will be strange, why are bookmakers giving such a high odd for Başakşehir? Do you have any bad news for Başakşehir? I will wait to see more data and news before placing my bet for this game

about Trabzonspor's game, honestly if I were to bet on this game, I would go to BTTS if I have a good odd, so far the odds for BTTS are @1.60, and it's a risk that doesn't pay off

I really don't understand odds are higher than 1.50 with Başakşehir, there is nothing going wrong with them, no specific injuries with key players etc. They are undefeated and pretty stronger than Ankaragücü. Their individual talents even can win that match.
As you expect Trabzonspor match is my risky bet, I know how Kayserispor plays and I think they can beat underperforming Trabzon with that performance. Trabzon will replace manager in my opinion soon.

[TheGreatPython]

I really don't understand odds are higher than 1.50 with Başakşehir, there is nothing going wrong with them, no specific injuries with key players etc. They are undefeated and pretty stronger than Ankaragücü. Their individual talents even can win that match.
As you expect Trabzonspor match is my risky bet, I know how Kayserispor plays and I think they can beat underperforming Trabzon with that performance. Trabzon will replace manager in my opinion soon.

Here, few factors are working, first one is Ankaragücü won first win at home before international break and Basaksehir is draw in their last game with Ankaragücü can do some tough resistance at home and which is surely increasing odds for visitors which are at the best from start of this season.

Trabzonspor is surely not good from the start of this season, and they are having bad start which is surely going to hurt their cause and defend of title most chances home team is going to win as their home record is at the top, and they are not easy in home games against any team Trabzonspor defence is also not giving their best which is big concern for them from the start of this season.

[MAAManda]

I really don't understand odds are higher than 1.50 with Başakşehir, there is nothing going wrong with them, no specific injuries with key players etc. They are undefeated and pretty stronger than Ankaragücü. Their individual talents even can win that match.

Most likely something will happen that is beyond the expectations of the bettors. Because that's usually what happens to strong teams who are not too underdogs in a match. Even now the Odds for Basaksehir's win have increased to @1.9, I saw these Odds on Rollbit.

It's a little suspicious to see the odds in this match, therefore, I advise you not to bet on the Ankaragucu Vs Basaksehir match. Match fixing is a real thing and I've experienced it a few times. Good luck for y'all

[Pierre 2]

I really don't understand odds are higher than 1.50 with Başakşehir, there is nothing going wrong with them, no specific injuries with key players etc. They are undefeated and pretty stronger than Ankaragücü. Their individual talents even can win that match.

Most likely something will happen that is beyond the expectations of the bettors. Because that's usually what happens to strong teams who are not too underdogs in a match. Even now the Odds for Basaksehir's win have increased to @1.9, I saw these Odds on Rollbit.

It's a little suspicious to see the odds in this match, therefore, I advise you not to bet on the Ankaragucu Vs Basaksehir match. Match fixing is a real thing and I've experienced it a few times. Good luck for y'all

Yeah honestly it is hard to say Turkish League is clean considering the past, I understand why Ankaragücü may resist etc. They need 3 points far more than Başakşehir. But there is clear power/ability difference as you can compare, Ankaragücü is using 2 ex players of bigger teams which are mediocre at best. Tolga Ciğerci and Taylan Antalyalı. This kind of central defence can't keep up against good attacker team like Başakşehir.

[swogerino]

And yet again, the Turkish national team had a horrible, disgusting game where they should have won with comfort and still managed to lose to a tiny micro opponent. Faroe Islands is a nation with less population totals than some stadiums in the world, and Turkey managed to lose. The idea that we could have some limitation on foreign players so that domestic players could grow doesnt work obviously, because it allows untalented people to find a way to show themselves and earn a lot. We should have no limitations on foreign players, so that turkish players would have to work much harder to get a place, or risk not being in there at all. This is not going well, and a chance is neede for sure, its a big must, otherwise it will only get worse.

Yeah but keep in mind that the teams do not take that seriously a competition like the Nations League.Turkey I am sure would have won the game and even with a tennis result if they were playing for WC qualification game for example,I have absolutely no doubt about it.I certainly would not worry about the outcome of such game as I am sure Turkey in key events will play much better,seriously and concentrated that they did against Faroe Islands.

Turkey lately has seen a big increase in quality in the national team and I know how you feel but it is better to judge your team when playing in really important events which all the teams give their 100% capacity and do not underestimate anyone.

[MAAManda]

Yeah honestly it is hard to say Turkish League is clean considering the past, I understand why Ankaragücü may resist etc. They need 3 points far more than Başakşehir. But there is clear power/ability difference as you can compare, Ankaragücü is using 2 ex players of bigger teams which are mediocre at best. Tolga Ciğerci and Taylan Antalyalı. This kind of central defence can't keep up against good attacker team like Başakşehir.

Tolga Ciğerci and Taylan Antalyal cannot be used as references for unreasonable odds. Something surprising will happen later, you can take my word for it. About 2 more days this match will start. BTW, the odds for Basaksehir's win have increased again. What was originally @1.9 is now @1.93. Talking about the league standings, currently Adana Demirspor is in first place with 16 points, of course we can't expect more from Adana Demirspor. Another team that has the same points as Adana Demirspor is Galatsaray. I think this season Galatsaray will prove themselves after last season they could only finish in 13th place.

[karabiber]

I think we will watch a great derby in the Super League this week. I look forward to the derby when i think of the pressure of Beşiktaş in the first part of the match with the support of the fans in the home matches and the super football played by Fenerbahçe regardless of the opponent. Beşiktaş never lost to Fenerbahçe at Vodafone Park. I don't know if Fenerbahçe can break this series. However, i can say that we will see many goals in the match and my prediction will be a goal draw.