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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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September 08, 2022, 08:09:35 AM
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I don't know what happend to Liverpool that they playing such as mediocre team today and their defense were playing so bad and easy to explored by Napoli players besides that the midfielder players Milner, Fabinho and Elliot looks lost their creativity and forward line also had deadlock because they seems having trouble to scoring goals and this is not good to starting this season and as champion candidate Klopp have to improved Liverpool performance because next opponent is Ajax which is can be categorized as strong team too on group A
Disappointing results that we saw Liverpool were like bending in this match with Napoli despite having the ball but their defense was poor I think at 4-1 it was the carelessness of some defenders who couldn't hold on to what they could it's really surprising.
Even though this is only the first phase Liverpool still have a second chance to improve in the champions league and Klopp should be able to catch up from this poor fall and defeat.

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September 08, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
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While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals.  Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams.  34 years old but tireless.  an incredible player.  There was also the surprise of the night.  Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1.  Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.
I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!
Lewandowski has proven that age is not an obstacle to continue to achieve achievements and we can see how great Lewandowski performance last night when he beat Plazen 5-1, a hat trick created by Lewandowski managed to make him the tempory top scorer in the Champions League this season, what you say is true, Barcelona were lucky enough to get Lewandowski after they struggled to find the right replacement after losing Messi, I think Barcelona with Lewandowski will again be a title challenger in both the league and in the Champions League this season.

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September 08, 2022, 09:16:01 AM
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Hehe didn't Chelsea kinda panicked when they sacked Tuchel after they lost? I like the guy and I thought he just needed a bit more time with the "new" squad to turn things around again.....
I can agree with you that Tuchel doesn't deserve the sack, atleast not at this time, because it is too early compared to his success in the club. The club though have changed administration seems to have forgotten too fast how Tuchel changed the team.
But what I will not agree with you is that Tuchel needed time to understand the NEW team. Was there really a new team? Nò. All the new players that joined the club were what Tuchel requested for. So, Chelsea bought him players of his  choice and doesn't need a whole season to understand his new defence line.
That's still a new team regardless if he requested them or not. It's one thing to scout them and it's another how they work with everyone on the pitch. Another thing is the new acquisitions also needs to get acquainted with their new teammates.

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In all I really thought that England will have an excellent champions league outing this year, but Liverpool and Chelsea are making me think otherwise after this first match.
I expected Chelsea to struggle early but not Liverpool. It's looking like only one English team will reach at least the semi-finals this season and that's Man City. No offense to Tottenham.

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September 08, 2022, 09:19:28 AM
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I'm starting to be really worried about Liverpool's performances. It's not just that we're losing and making silly defensive mistakes, it's like the energy isn't there to perform at the highest level.

I know we had an extremely gruesome season last year - we played all available games. The break was also shorter due to World Cup. We can find many excuses, but whatever they are - we won't do anything this season unless we fix them.

Individual performances aside - we're not running enough as a team, we're losing second balls all over the pitch and we simply don't have players running into open spaces when in possession. We look deflated and demoralized.

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September 08, 2022, 09:23:28 AM
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While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals.  Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams.  34 years old but tireless.  an incredible player.  There was also the surprise of the night.  Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1.  Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.
I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!
The huge amount of money that Barcelona spent to sign Lewandowski was not in vain, now Barcelona are enjoying the return of their investment in Lewandowski thanks to the goals that Lewandowski continues to create. At the age of 34, Lewandowski is still able to perform brilliantly. The three goals he scored against Viktoria Plzen made him the player to score his first hat-trick in the UCL and also his first hat-trick while wearing the Barcelona jersey in an official match.
Currently the quality of Barcelona front line is very good, Xavi can rely on Dembele, Lewandowski and Raphinha as a trio to fill the main squad. In addition to the three names above, Barcelona also has very good forwards, Ferran Torres, Ansu Fati and Depay can also be relied on by Xavi. Thanks to the arrival of several new players in the transfer market, Barcelona's appearance is much more improved than last season.

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September 08, 2022, 09:35:27 AM
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I don't know what happend to Liverpool that they playing such as mediocre team today and their defense were playing so bad and easy to explored by Napoli players besides that the midfielder players Milner, Fabinho and Elliot looks lost their creativity and forward line also had deadlock because they seems having trouble to scoring goals and this is not good to starting this season and as champion candidate Klopp have to improved Liverpool performance because next opponent is Ajax which is can be categorized as strong team too on group A
Disappointing results that we saw Liverpool were like bending in this match with Napoli despite having the ball but their defense was poor I think at 4-1 it was the carelessness of some defenders who couldn't hold on to what they could it's really surprising.
Even though this is only the first phase Liverpool still have a second chance to improve in the champions league and Klopp should be able to catch up from this poor fall and defeat.
Liverpool defeat was quite embarrassing because statistically Liverpool were actually superior to Napoli, Liverpool poor defense plus Liverpool lack of sharp attacks made Napoli managed to destroy Liverpool with a big score, throughout the match I saw that Liverpool defenders were very difficult to keep and blocked the movements of Victor Osimhen and Giovanni Simeone, so makes it easy for Napoli forwards to score goals, apart from Liverpool poor defense, their midfield also seems to be quite chaotic without being able to create creativity for Liverpool forwards, Liverpool midfielders find it difficult to develop because due to being heavily guarded by Napoli and that is reason the lack of  assists for Liverpool attackers in that match, seeing Liverpool game today seems difficult for them to get out of the group phase especially when their have to face Ajax in the second match of the champions league.

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September 08, 2022, 09:36:15 AM
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What do you think? Will Klopp be also sacked just as it happened to Tuchel?

If they continue to get results like this his time here might be running out as well. Liverpool were horrible at defending against Napoli yesterday. I don't remember the last time I saw Joe Gomez performing this much poorly. He played a big role in some goals conceded. van Dijk was also not very good. The penalty Osimhen missed was his fault but at least he made up for it later by preventing an absolute goal chance. They weren't the only players at fault of course. The team as a whole need to improve their defending. If you can't score many goals then you must be solid at defending.

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September 08, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
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The two teams from the Premier League that completely destroyed my multi bet were Chelsea who ultimately sacked Tuchel, next is Liverpool and whether Liverpool will sack Klopp because Liverpool's defeat was very big with 4-1.
Even if you ask me then I'm also pretty sure Liverpool and Chelsea deserve you to consider winning and being picked in your multi bet. But in reality they lost shockingly after being favorited to win, that must be something that is never fun for you in my opinion.

Even though Chelsea are no longer patient enough to give Tuchel time before sacking him, then I don't think Klopp will have the same fate as Tuchel. Klopp is different with because his track record has given Liverpool a lot, it is the worst thing when a team has to sack him just because he has not performed well in the first few match. Klopp will get something different from Liverpool than Tuchel at Chelsea.

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September 08, 2022, 10:38:39 AM
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What do you think? Will Klopp be also sacked just as it happened to Tuchel?

If they continue to get results like this his time here might be running out as well. Liverpool were horrible at defending against Napoli yesterday. I don't remember the last time I saw Joe Gomez performing this much poorly. He played a big role in some goals conceded. van Dijk was also not very good. The penalty Osimhen missed was his fault but at least he made up for it later by preventing an absolute goal chance. They weren't the only players at fault of course. The team as a whole need to improve their defending. If you can't score many goals then you must be solid at defending.
We are different from the others. We really appreciate what Jurgen Klopp has done for the club. A difficult job has been well done by Klopp to make history at Anfield in the era of modern football.
Maybe the principle held by the club regarding Liverpool's current condition is that we are not always on top.

The problems experienced by Liverpool at the beginning of this season were only about players who suffered a lot of injuries, although some said the effect of selling Sadio Mane. For me it's not a big factor in terms of the results we've received in some games.
We can see in the next few matches that there will be changes to the results that will be received.

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September 08, 2022, 10:48:09 AM
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What do you think? Will Klopp be also sacked just as it happened to Tuchel?

If they continue to get results like this his time here might be running out as well. Liverpool were horrible at defending against Napoli yesterday. I don't remember the last time I saw Joe Gomez performing this much poorly. He played a big role in some goals conceded. van Dijk was also not very good. The penalty Osimhen missed was his fault but at least he made up for it later by preventing an absolute goal chance. They weren't the only players at fault of course. The team as a whole need to improve their defending. If you can't score many goals then you must be solid at defending.

I don't think the two are the same thing. Klopp will not be sent from this team, if he wants to go, he will go himself. Klopp has huge credit. Even if Liverpool haven't had any success this season, they won't be able to fire Klopp. Without Klopp, Liverpool wouldn't have achieved any of their recent successes.
The score in the Napoli match wasn't surprising to me. Napoli played really well in the game and they made every minute of the game feel like they were going to win the game. Liverpool still have a chance to come out of this group in second place. They shouldn't be negative from the first game.

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September 08, 2022, 11:32:05 AM
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The two teams from the Premier League that completely destroyed my multi bet were Chelsea who ultimately sacked Tuchel, next is Liverpool and whether Liverpool will sack Klopp because Liverpool's defeat was very big with 4-1.
Even if you ask me then I'm also pretty sure Liverpool and Chelsea deserve you to consider winning and being picked in your multi bet. But in reality they lost shockingly after being favorited to win, that must be something that is never fun for you in my opinion.

The Champions League is an event that is difficult to predict, plus competing clubs that are relatively unbalanced with English clubs, it will be very feasible to consider the potential they have. From Liverpool's inaugural defeat, maybe the trophy scheme will be difficult to predict, not even sure if Liverpool can qualify easily in the group phase.

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I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!
Not many people manage to perform like this so fast after transferring to barcelona. And there were negative reports about him in the newspapers for a very long time. That he continues to do so now is very strong. 1 game and 3 goals in the Champions League, that starts sensationally. Possibly he can break the record of Christiano Ronaldo (2013/2014) with 17 goals. In 2019/20 Lewandowski made with FC Bayern Munich 15 goals in one CL Season.

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September 08, 2022, 12:30:57 PM
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The Champions League is an event that is difficult to predict, plus competing clubs that are relatively unbalanced with English clubs, it will be very feasible to consider the potential they have. From Liverpool's inaugural defeat, maybe the trophy scheme will be difficult to predict, not even sure if Liverpool can qualify easily in the group phase.
The scheme will still be the same as the top clubs that enter the Knock Out and some dark horses that roam freely.
It's interesting to see Liverpool now with the condition of the players who are actually very good, they even find it very difficult to score goals, not only in the EPL but it seems that the domino effect of their poor performance in the EPL to the Champions League.
If Klopp still can't give his best I think they should forget about the Champions League this season.

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September 08, 2022, 12:46:26 PM
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I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!
When you flatter someone in a team like Barcelona, ​​don't forget other players who often provide the best for Lewandowski like Rafinha and Ferran Torres for example.
Because of the collaboration between Lewandowski, Ferran Torres and Rafinha at Barcelona, ​​it has clearly given Barcelona a very good strength so far and has also begun to be reckoned with by every team this season. Because Lewandowski will also not be able to give the best to the team if there is no good cooperation between the players who are already in the Barcelona team at this time.

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September 08, 2022, 12:57:34 PM
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The scheme will still be the same as the top clubs that enter the Knock Out and some dark horses that roam freely.
It's interesting to see Liverpool now with the condition of the players who are actually very good, they even find it very difficult to score goals, not only in the EPL but it seems that the domino effect of their poor performance in the EPL to the Champions League.
If Klopp still can't give his best I think they should forget about the Champions League this season.
It looks like Liverpool initial move left a dissatisfied impression on Klopp. Getting a loss to Napoli would be a little unconvincing. Even though there is another match in the Champions League, it will automatically make Klopp bear a tough task. Next week their opponents are much more difficult, Ajax has talented players who can make it difficult for Liverpool's defense.

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I really don't know what's going on with Liverpool this season. The attitude of the Reds players in defense in yesterday's match against Napoli is a football crime. Especially in the goal of 2-0, when 4 players from Liverpool watched Zieliński and Anguissa pass the ball to each other. They conceded 4 goals in total, and there could have been many more. Really Jurgen Klopp has to shake the team a lot while the season is just starting.

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Sporting had never won in Germany, in 13 games, ending up with an incredible triumph against Eintracht. I don't think anyone was expecting this victory on the part of Sporting. Even because they haven't been having a good start to the championship.

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September 08, 2022, 01:40:28 PM
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I really don't know what's going on with Liverpool this season. The attitude of the Reds players in defense in yesterday's match against Napoli is a football crime. Especially in the goal of 2-0, when 4 players from Liverpool watched Zieliński and Anguissa pass the ball to each other. They conceded 4 goals in total, and there could have been many more. Really Jurgen Klopp has to shake the team a lot while the season is just starting.
the Liverpool squad has not changed much from last season. Klopp shouldn't have had much trouble at the start of the season.
there seems to be something wrong with this team, they are strong but the game is bad. they didn't play as well as last season, of course, Liverpool is missing something big. it makes the team's performance greatly decrease. Klopp has a lot of homework that will make it hard to sleep.
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Yes that's true, So if Dembele continues to do well with Lewandowski he will score a lot of goals. These two are by far the best in this game. I'm usually enthusiastic about Dembele. After being called a first-person player in the last game, he really did everything for his teammates. He's definitely changed a lot under Xavi and I hope he stays injury free this time too. And there's nothing to say about Lewandowski. For me he is the best striker in the world.
Since Xavi coached Barcelona, ​​I believe that since then Dembele's form has really improved. He's getting bolder as he plays and I can actually see his passing accuracy is absolutely incredible.

But I can say that Dembele is not fully capable of playing loose because he still seems to have a lot of weight on him when he plays. Had he been confident enough then I'm sure he would have been better at Barcelona. His speed, passing accuracy and shooting power are excellent and if he has good confidence it is difficult to stop him.

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September 08, 2022, 01:50:43 PM
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I really don't know what's going on with Liverpool this season. The attitude of the Reds players in defense in yesterday's match against Napoli is a football crime. Especially in the goal of 2-0, when 4 players from Liverpool watched Zieliński and Anguissa pass the ball to each other. They conceded 4 goals in total, and there could have been many more. Really Jurgen Klopp has to shake the team a lot while the season is just starting.
Their attacking has problems without Mane but more serious issues come their defense. A defense system is weak and mistakes are from personal and from their defense system too. If their defense system is good, others can cover mistake makes by one player but it is not what is going on with Liverpool. Their system is broken now and easily to be exploited by opponents.

If they can let Napoli scored 4 goals too easily, how many goals they will be conceded when facing top clubs in Champions League? Will they have big defeat like Barcelona got from Bayern Munich years ago.

Klopp and Liverpool are facing with a very difficult season and if it continues next one or two months, risk for Klopp to be sacked.

In the match with Napoli, Joe Gomez and Arnold are worst among their defenders. Joe made many mistakes and Arnold just wanted to join attacking and did not actually care about defending.

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