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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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September 08, 2022, 09:47:57 PM
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It's true that seeing Liverpool's inconsistent performance in the Premier League doesn't seem surprising if Liverpool perform poorly in
the Champions League. But Liverpool should not lose by a big score, this is very embarrassing for Liverpool, who were runners-up in
the Champions League the previous season.
You are right. Even if Liverpool got defeated, at least it is not with 3 goals difference. It is a quite shame, Liverpool performance seems like a small team. Everyone must be disappointed with Liverpool since they are always a candidate for UCL winner in the last few seasons.

If it was chelsea ... they might sack klopp right in the morning lol.
Correct. Klopp is lucky that he isn't a Chelsea coach.  Grin

So far at the early season ... liverpool didn't perform really well despite all the key players are available , the fans now looking something to blame and mane departure become one of many strong reasons.
I think it is not only about the Mane factor. But the whole Liverpool players are decreasing in motivation to play consistently and improve their performance. In some matches, I assume Liverpool players are getting lazy, they didn't play aggressively anymore. Klopp should evaluate the players' behavior/mentality.



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Liverpool fans and management know how much Klopp has done for Liverpool. He won them their first premier league title after 20+ years and won them the champions league aswell. So it would be really bad to sack him for starting the season bad.
Firing Klopp at this time is not a wise option for Liverpool because Klopp can still fix all the adversity at the beginning of this season for the better by changing their strategy and way of playing in a better direction. Because I was also a little surprised when Liverpool were beaten by Napoli with an unusual score for Liverpool. Even I had predicted that English clubs would always be stronger than Italian clubs, but in reality this is not the case.

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September 09, 2022, 01:04:38 AM
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The most bizarre ending of this week and perhaps of recent years was the match between Atletico Madrid and Porto. No goal for 90 minutes and then stoppage time (9 minutes) we saw 3 goals. You don't see that often. For a long time it seemed to be a boring goalless draw. Griezmann was important in the end with his substitution.
I can't even believe such thing happened before. Both teams are playing so fast when it was entered into the extra time. With only 9 minutes and a few goals have been made by both. It seems like griezman was become the man of the match that was helping the club to get full points in the champion league. That's a very bad ending for porto which was not able to get 1 point from atletico madrid. it seems like that griezmann will be included into the diego siemone's next starting eleven.
Im glad that atletico can get full point against porto. What a good game from both.

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September 09, 2022, 01:21:36 AM
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Liverpool fans and management know how much Klopp has done for Liverpool. He won them their first premier league title after 20+ years and won them the champions league aswell. So it would be really bad to sack him for starting the season bad.
Firing Klopp at this time is not a wise option for Liverpool because Klopp can still fix all the adversity at the beginning of this season for the better by changing their strategy and way of playing in a better direction. Because I was also a little surprised when Liverpool were beaten by Napoli with an unusual score for Liverpool. Even I had predicted that English clubs would always be stronger than Italian clubs, but in reality this is not the case.
Fortunately, in this case, the higher-ups from Liverpool are still quite patient with their condition because they are aware that when they release Klopp, it will certainly backfire for them as well.
If Todd were there, it would most likely be a little different because actually if we look at their almost the same spending on player transfers considering Liverpool's spending is also quite large Grin
But indeed in this case Klopp still has to make different movements considering that in this case they have to move quickly to make their performance improve.

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Liverpool fans and management know how much Klopp has done for Liverpool. He won them their first premier league title after 20+ years and won them the champions league aswell. So it would be really bad to sack him for starting the season bad.
Liverpool club management still considers Liverpool's situation a normal thing and sacking the coach when the team is performing poorly like the one Liverpool is experiencing is only a discussion that develops outside. Jurgen Klopp is a great coach who has managed to bring success to Liverpool.

For Liverpudlian and The Kop, don't get caught up with information that can disrupt concentration in supporting Liverpool.
We have to see how Jurgen Klopp shaped a great team with an extraordinary strategy so that Liverpool managed to become a club full of achievements.

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For Liverpudlian and The Kop, don't get caught up with information that can disrupt concentration in supporting Liverpool.
We have to see how Jurgen Klopp shaped a great team with an extraordinary strategy so that Liverpool managed to become a club full of achievements.
Liverpool's 4-0 defeat was really painful but I think it's still normal because the team is trying to build chemistry between players

I see that the hot news is that many fans regret the Nunez transfer.  they said that the team spent meaningless money, nunez in that match didn't have a big impact on liverpool's attack line, much different from mane before

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Liverpool's 4-0 defeat was really painful but I think it's still normal because the team is trying to build chemistry between players

I'm sorry, but I have some difficulty finding it normal to lose 4-0 against Napoli.  It is true that the Italian team is strong, and has all the conditions to beat Liverpool. But win 4-0? I think it's a very heavy defeat for Klopp's team.

We are talking about the team that was in the final of the Champions League last year and in turn continues to have the main players. It's true that there are new players, but even so, I don't think it justifies such a heavy defeat.

I think that the issue here is the knowledge that the opposing teams already have of the type of game that Liverpool have, and they manage to assemble the teams in order to control that. I believe that Klopp has the quality to overcome this, but it may take some time to create a new game plan. But the season is going to be a long one, and losing points like that right at the beginning can make it very complicated. It's better quickly.

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For Liverpudlian and The Kop, don't get caught up with information that can disrupt concentration in supporting Liverpool.
We have to see how Jurgen Klopp shaped a great team with an extraordinary strategy so that Liverpool managed to become a club full of achievements.
Liverpool's 4-0 defeat was really painful but I think it's still normal because the team is trying to build chemistry between players

I see that the hot news is that many fans regret the Nunez transfer.  they said that the team spent meaningless money, nunez in that match didn't have a big impact on liverpool's attack line, much different from mane before
Yes, now trust in Nunez has turned into doubt. This is in line with the good performance of Haaland at Manchester City. I'm not trying to compare, but when these two players came to the Premier League it was a debate who was the best between them. Now Nunez is behind Haaland in terms of performance. Liverpool fans miss Sadio Mane.

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For Liverpudlian and The Kop, don't get caught up with information that can disrupt concentration in supporting Liverpool.
We have to see how Jurgen Klopp shaped a great team with an extraordinary strategy so that Liverpool managed to become a club full of achievements.
Liverpool's 4-0 defeat was really painful but I think it's still normal because the team is trying to build chemistry between players

I see that the hot news is that many fans regret the Nunez transfer.  they said that the team spent meaningless money, nunez in that match didn't have a big impact on liverpool's attack line, much different from mane before
Yes, now trust in Nunez has turned into doubt. This is in line with the good performance of Haaland at Manchester City. I'm not trying to compare, but when these two players came to the Premier League it was a debate who was the best between them. Now Nunez is behind Haaland in terms of performance. Liverpool fans miss Sadio Mane.
it was clear that Haaland's performance at Manchester City was very good with the many goals he scored, while Darwin Nunez was getting worse with Liverpool accompanied by the same performance from his team even though Liverpool's bad performance is now not only caused by Nunez but fans' expectations are too high and compared to Haaland makes it even more difficult. down, the mentality of this player may be very difficult to get up especially he is a young player.
As for Liverpool's poor form, I think it's normal in a team that isn't always stable, especially since it's just the start of the season, with the quality of the team they have I think sooner or later they will be able to bounce back.



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For Liverpudlian and The Kop, don't get caught up with information that can disrupt concentration in supporting Liverpool.
We have to see how Jurgen Klopp shaped a great team with an extraordinary strategy so that Liverpool managed to become a club full of achievements.
Liverpool's 4-0 defeat was really painful but I think it's still normal because the team is trying to build chemistry between players
The correct score was 4-1 (Napoli 4 - 1 Liverpool) not 4-0.

I see that the hot news is that many fans regret the Nunez transfer.  they said that the team spent meaningless money, nunez in that match didn't have a big impact on liverpool's attack line, much different from mane before
It is impossible for a baby when it is born to immediately run after its father or mother. Darwin Nunez came to Liverpool not from an English club. An adaptation process is necessary for a new player. Darwin Nunez also cannot play alone without the support of other players. Let alone Nunez, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are also not able to do a good job if the service is not provided by teammates.

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September 09, 2022, 10:12:38 AM
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I see that the hot news is that many fans regret the Nunez transfer.  they said that the team spent meaningless money, nunez in that match didn't have a big impact on liverpool's attack line, much different from mane before
It is impossible for a baby when it is born to immediately run after its father or mother. Darwin Nunez came to Liverpool not from an English club. An adaptation process is necessary for a new player. Darwin Nunez also cannot play alone without the support of other players. Let alone Nunez, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are also not able to do a good job if the service is not provided by teammates.

Darwin Nunez was brought in as a replacement for Sadio Mane. So the expectations from him will naturally be higher than mine. But he is still young. Darwin Nunez is only 23 years old. Three are talented enough but not experienced. Experience is definitely required in a competitive platform like the Premier League. It also takes time to adapt to the team. He has just played four matches in Liverpool's jersey. Scored a goal and an assist. Darwin Nunez needs more time to adjust to the team. Hopefully, he can become a worthy replacement for Liverpool's Sadio Mane in the future.

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Yes, now trust in Nunez has turned into doubt. This is in line with the good performance of Haaland at Manchester City. I'm not trying to compare, but when these two players came to the Premier League it was a debate who was the best between them. Now Nunez is behind Haaland in terms of performance. Liverpool fans miss Sadio Mane.

Darwin nunez was brought on in the second half in the 62nd minute, during the match against Napoli, Liverpool's performance from the first half was very bad, so I don't think we can demand nunez to play perfectly in that match.
Unlike Haaland, Man City's performance in the domestic league is quite good and does not have many problems with the players.  Haaland had a great start in the UCL tournament, not so good for nunez, in the second game in the premier league he got a red card. it's only natural that he's not at his best.
Liverpool's appearance in the UCL tournament was purely a failure of the main starter players, Moh Salah and colleagues played very badly.

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September 09, 2022, 10:45:32 AM
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Yes, now trust in Nunez has turned into doubt. This is in line with the good performance of Haaland at Manchester City. I'm not trying to compare, but when these two players came to the Premier League it was a debate who was the best between them. Now Nunez is behind Haaland in terms of performance. Liverpool fans miss Sadio Mane.

Darwin Nunez still needs time to adapt to Liverpool's game. Even Liverpool don't play well as a team these days so it would be unfair to blame things on Nunez. He was a wonderful striker while he was playing for Benfica. He was like a goal machine I mean. However the Premier League is a completely different environment. Teams here play with very different strategies and the tempo is always high here. Liverpool are one of the teams that love to play fast. After some time Nunez would start to adapt hopefully otherwise of course his end might be like Werner for Chelsea.

Haaland is a way more skilled player than Nunez. He was already playing for Dortmund that liked to play really fast so he didn't have any problem on adapting also. He is most probably going to have a much higher level of performance than Nunez during the whole season. But Liverpool wouldn't care about this comparison. They'd only like to see Nunez meeting the expectations after spending a huge amount of money for him. For now, Firmino seems to be better than him in the team.

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September 09, 2022, 11:53:59 AM
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Darwin Nunez still needs time to adapt to Liverpool's game. Even Liverpool don't play well as a team these days so it would be unfair to blame things on Nunez. He was a wonderful striker while he was playing for Benfica.
The classic reason when it comes to adaptation. Nunez is not a player who just plunged into the world of football one day. This is not a matter of adaptation, but Liverpool's internal problems starting to lose concentration. Mohammad Salah looked dissatisfied and he played erratically. The first half looked bad. If you look at the time Nunez came in wasn't it enough to get a little change? If Klopp had earlier satisfied Nunez maybe conceding 4-1 could be a different story. Unfortunately, Liverpool has now lost a lot of direction in the game.

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The classic reason when it comes to adaptation. Nunez is not a player who just plunged into the world of football one day. This is not a matter of adaptation, but Liverpool's internal problems starting to lose concentration. Mohammad Salah looked dissatisfied and he played erratically. The first half looked bad. If you look at the time Nunez came in wasn't it enough
to get a little change? If Klopp had earlier satisfied Nunez maybe conceding 4-1 could be a different story. Unfortunately, Liverpool has now lost a lot of direction in the game.
Liverpool's defense in this match was terrible, Gomez looked especially weak. Firmino was not visible at all, maybe he should have been replaced even earlier, it's hard to say when the team loses with such a rout, then all the players are to blame. I expected Liverpool to be able to beat Napoli but Liverpool still can't find their game, they are still feverish at the beginning of this season.

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It is difficult for Joe Gomez to find a chance after that horrible performance. Liverpool's next match is against Ajax next week. This time we are in Anfield and it is up to Liverpool to take advantage of this. Their recent form is definitely unreliable. The problems in defense make things much harder for the team. I can't say that they are very good at scoring either. They are very inconsistent about that and Salah's performance definitely plays an important role in this. Diaz is taking a big responsibility these days but it can't always go on like this.

Ajax are not much different than Napoli recenty. They are also in a very good shape and they would go for even a win against Liverpool after seeing them this much desperate. As the EPL matches on this week has been postponed, Liverpool have a good amount of free time to be ready against Ajax. I don't know how Klopp will do this but he needs to improve the morale somehow.

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September 09, 2022, 02:46:30 PM
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In the UEFA Champions League 22/23 season
 Barcelona picked up their first win against Viktoria Plzen, 5-1, Robert Lewadski scored a hat-trick with Casey and Torres on the score sheet.
Good for Barca and Lewandowski. I think they have to perform at their maximum because they are in the same way with Inter, Munich and Viktoria Plzen. They have to get three points because their next opponent is quite heavy.
I was surprised by Liverpool's defeat. They performed very poorly. Napoli took advantage of the right side of Liverpool's defense. Even Liverpool's defense blundered so napoli earned a penalty. I began to doubt with them. They were unstable as long as the league started. I thought Nunez's arrival would be a great strength of the club, but I was wrong. Nunez has not been able to perform steadily.
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The classic reason when it comes to adaptation. Nunez is not a player who just plunged into the world of football one day. This is not a matter of adaptation, but Liverpool's internal problems starting to lose concentration. Mohammad Salah looked dissatisfied and he played erratically. The first half looked bad. If you look at the time Nunez came in wasn't it enough to get a little change? If Klopp had earlier satisfied Nunez maybe conceding 4-1 could be a different story. Unfortunately, Liverpool has now lost a lot of direction in the game.
Liverpool have spent much money more than £85m for Darwin Nunez and Jurgen Klopp want to him as soon possible can adaptation with his scheme. Not reason Darwin Nunez needs time how adapting with Primer League competition because his transfer most expensive than other player exactly like Haaland looks easy how adapt with  Primer League and success scoring many goals for Manchester City.

Beside with bad performance by Liverpool not only with Darwin Nunez but also Mohamad Salah get the same problem, he can't still back to top performance maybe impact after losing his tandem Sadio Mane move to Bayern Munich, how ever both player have good chemistry each other how to give assist and contributing for Liverpool goals last season.

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September 09, 2022, 03:08:24 PM
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Liverpool fans and management know how much Klopp has done for Liverpool. He won them their first premier league title after 20+ years and won them the champions league aswell. So it would be really bad to sack him for starting the season bad.
Firing Klopp at this time is not a wise option for Liverpool because Klopp can still fix all the adversity at the beginning of this season for the better by changing their strategy and way of playing in a better direction. Because I was also a little surprised when Liverpool were beaten by Napoli with an unusual score for Liverpool. Even I had predicted that English clubs would always be stronger than Italian clubs, but in reality this is not the case.
I don't think that Klopp will suffer the same fate as Tuchel, but even if it happens it is of course a loss for Liverpool because it is difficult to find a coach as good as Klopp at the moment, Liverpool deteriorating performance does not seem to be due to Klopp strategy error but none other than because of his performance their players are indeed deteriorating, losing Mane, I think is one of the reasons for Liverpool current bad performance and Nunez has not been able to have an effect on Liverpool game, yesterday defeat against Napoli was quite painful but if we look at Liverpool defenders they performed quite badly in the match.

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I don't think that Klopp will suffer the same fate as Tuchel, but even if it happens it is of course a loss for Liverpool because it is difficult to find a coach as good as Klopp at the moment, Liverpool deteriorating performance does not seem to be due to Klopp strategy error but none other than because of his performance their players are indeed deteriorating, losing Mane, I think is one of the reasons for Liverpool current bad performance and Nunez has not been able to have an effect on Liverpool game, yesterday defeat against Napoli was quite painful but if we look at Liverpool defenders they performed quite badly in the match.
chelsea management in my opinion is very cruel, it's still the beginning of the season but why should you fire tuchel only chelsea because they lost in the UCL. they should give tuchel a chance because he will definitely continue to think about the best strategy for chelsea.  Regarding nunez, it looks like he still hasn't been able to get along with Liverpool's senior strikers, their chemistry has not been achieved, Liverpool's attack line is very chaotic.

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