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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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October 16, 2022, 02:18:58 PM
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Lewandowski is one of the best players in the world, Lewandowski deserves a better club than Barcelona. It would be really sad for Lewandowski if Barcelona were to be eliminated from the Champions League altogether. If Barcelona are lucky enough to go through to the next round, they will be well on their way.
It's not only him that will be disappointed when barcelona can't go to the last 16 but the club itself will be loosing a lot of income from champion league. This will give a very bad impact to the club as well. I meant this clubs needs money. Champion league will give a decent money to the club. That's why when barcelona goes to the europa league and this will make all of its players and club feel disappointed. Barcelona must have defeated bayern to make it happen otherwise when barcelona lose and that will be a disaster for the club. i think that almost all of barcelona fans are hoping a lot about that.

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October 16, 2022, 02:21:54 PM
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Ajax really deserve no more than the Europa League at the moment. I haven't seen them this much weak in even offense until the group stage. After a good start against Rangers things started to terrible for them suddenly. I was like they would compete with Napoli to take the 2nd spot in the group. But now Napoli are leading it and Ajax are a disappointment.

I know that Ajax have made important changes in their squad before the season started. But they still have solid players in the lineup and their performance in the Eredivisie hasn't changed much. It is all about the Champions League now.
Change of coach and selling of many quality players for money is surely having big impact on their performance in this season, and they are losing matches very badly just first match for something good for them, and then they have good performance against Liverpool, but Napoli expose their weakness badly and punish them badly which is surely going to be terrible for them, and now they have tough challenge in Dutch League as well with all top rank teams are giving their best which is bringing hard time for them in coming season.

Most chances after exit from Champions League their target could be at local league because this can give them good time for better strategy and having changes in their squad for next season, right now they are badly down and out of competition and have no enough chance for staying into good position for any big cup.

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October 16, 2022, 02:32:49 PM
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Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
It's better to fight alone than to have to determine the fate of the other team's match results, that sounds sad. Yes, that scenario is not easy for Barcelona with Viktoria Plzen's opponent being Inter Milan. They will also still face Bayern Munich which will surely be a tough game for them to win. Barcelona's meeting record with Bayern Munich is also not good, they always struggle and lose every time they meet.

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October 16, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
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Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.

I think it would actually be a real surprise if Barcelona manages to get into the knockout phase of the Champions League, because it no longer depends on itself and its results and does not play convincingly.
Apart from that, I don't think they have much chance to beat Bayern, who are currently a much better team, and Inter will surely not miss the opportunity to beat Victoria and secure the second place in the group.
The Europa League is a completely irrelevant, second-rate competition for Barcelona from a footballing and financial point of view and I don't expect that competition to be a priority for them.


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October 16, 2022, 05:40:10 PM
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The real problem is the injury some time ago in the international game of his players which made them slump immediately.
Actually in terms of performance especially at the start of the season they played really well but after losing a few players obviously this made a difference.

Lewandowski is short on supply in attack, their defense is not working well and the biggest problem is the unstable defense and lots of gaps.
But indeed this is likely only temporary because when some players recover clearly this is something that can indeed be good news for them.
We also shouldn't expect a manager, who came in at the half of the season last year, had maybe like a one or two temporary players that fits his system, then at the summer he got some more players for good this time, and be good after just 2 months.

Dude needs time to make the team better, but to be fair they are not bad neither, they are still by far better than the Koeman times, I mean the group they failed to go up last year was Bayern again that's true but it was Benfica instead of Inter and maybe they are close but Inter feels better. Right now, all they need is time to build chemistry, and I guarantee you that Xavi will many cups with them in this decade.
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October 16, 2022, 06:10:25 PM
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Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
It's better to fight alone than to have to determine the fate of the other team's match results, that sounds sad. Yes, that scenario is not easy for Barcelona with Viktoria Plzen's opponent being Inter Milan. They will also still face Bayern Munich which will surely be a tough game for them to win. Barcelona's meeting record with Bayern Munich is also not good, they always struggle and lose every time they meet.

Barcelona's luck has been very bad this season. Barcelona performed well in both matches against Inter Milan. Even then they are not able to score full points. Barcelona also had a good performance against Bayern Munich. They lost points due to poor defense. Barcelona lost today against Madrid due to poor defense. So if Barcelona can strengthen their defense in the next two matches, they have a chance to qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
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October 16, 2022, 07:20:50 PM
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I'm looking forward to the Barcelona-Bayern game with great interest, not because I believe in Barcelona's comeback, but because it's interesting to see how Bayern will play this game without the motivation to win. I think even in such conditions they can win big.
I don't think Bayern Munich doesn't have any motivation to win against Barcelona, if they lose in this match, Barcelona has a chance to qualify for the next round since Barcelona will play against weak club while Inter Milan need to face Bayern Munich. If Barcelona losing this match, it's a sweet revenge by Bayern Munich since there's no chance for Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Lewandowski will sad here lol.

Until the last sentence, I could not understand what the "sweet revenge" would be for  Grin Barcelona is a stable supplier of points for Bayern and if the management of Bayern chose which to let Inter or Barcelona in the playoffs, then I'm sure they would choose Barcelona as a victory over them seems more reliable than over Inter. But the situation with Lewandowski completely changes the case, I agree. Bayern go further, and Lewandowski without Bayern goes only to the Europa League - sounds very mocking!
Lewandowski is one of the best players in the world, Lewandowski deserves a better club than Barcelona. It would be really sad for Lewandowski if Barcelona were to be eliminated from the Champions League altogether. If Barcelona are lucky enough to go through to the next round, they will be well on their way.

This is a wrong statement to make go about Robert Lewandoski, how will you say that Lewandoski doesn't deserve a team like Barcelona ? The bad thing about Barcelona currently is that they're not in a good form couple with the current injured players, how do you expect them to cope ?
Also, I do think they still some further additional attacking midfielder's, more of a better quality than what they have, I'm not okay with Gavi yet as that quality Innesta has at a tender age is much different than what I see before now.

Barcelona have always been a top quality tram and same as Robert Lewandoski, when everything gets better Robert Lewandoski will start scoring, I see you're in a hurry to make your post here. Cry

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Barcelona must be so lucky to be able to go to the last 16.
Im not even thinking if that's gonna happen with barcelona. It seems like the performance from the club in la liga doesn't affect the result in the champion league

Barca with Inter difference of 3 points. The next match is Inter vs Viktoria, I am very sure Inter will win the match. Considering the match at home to Inter, while Viktoria is also a weak club, they haven't even won yet. Thus Inter's points increased by 3, to 10 points. While Barca must serve Bayern. Of course, it is very difficult to win. But if Barca win, then Barca points to 7. This means that there is still a difference of 3 points with Inter.

In the next match, Barca served Viktoria. Of course Barca will win the game, so Barca's points increase by 3, and become 10 with the same points as Inter.
While Inter have to face Bayern, if Inter lose, then Inter points will be the same as Barca. However, it was Inter who advanced to the round of 16, because of the head-to-head between Inter vs. Barca, Inter won. So I conclude that Barca will not make it to the last 16.

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October 16, 2022, 07:48:55 PM
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He's not kidding, he just being honest.

As you said Barcelona are filled in a tough group, do you think La Liga have many tough clubs than Barcelona and Real Madrid? Nope, that's why Barcelona can become top classement in La Liga right now. I'd say if Barcelona can't qualify for the next round because Bayern Munich and Inter Milan have higher score than Barcelona, it doesn't matter since if Barcelona can't beat the tough clubs on the group phase, how they can beat the tough clubs on the next rounds?

Any clubs are aiming to become a champion, not become the runner up, 3rd place and so on.
In this happened as a result of some of their players being injured simultaneously in their international matches.
Actually, if their condition is quite good in terms of players I personally still believe in them but when the condition of their players is like it is clear we can't talk much because no matter how good Xavi is, they will not be able to have many options when their players can't be played and this case is the same as what happened to Juventus now.
Now they have to accept the fact that with their players absent due to injury Xavi cannot take them to the next phase and this should serve as a lesson for Xavi as well that in order to be successful he must be prepared to deal with unwanted incidents like this by making several steps. Another backup plan that can be used when an emergency situation occurs such as an unexpected simultaneous injury to several players.

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Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
It's better to fight alone than to have to determine the fate of the other team's match results, that sounds sad. Yes, that scenario is not easy for Barcelona with Viktoria Plzen's opponent being Inter Milan. They will also still face Bayern Munich which will surely be a tough game for them to win. Barcelona's meeting record with Bayern Munich is also not good, they always struggle and lose every time they meet.

Barcelona's luck has been very bad this season. Barcelona performed well in both matches against Inter Milan. Even then they are not able to score full points. Barcelona also had a good performance against Bayern Munich. They lost points due to poor defense. Barcelona lost today against Madrid due to poor defense. So if Barcelona can strengthen their defense in the next two matches, they have a chance to qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
I don't see the chance of Barcelona very high. In the Inter match, especially in the first 20 minutes, Barcelona played very hastily by compromising their own game and the performance of the forward attackers, especially Martinez, who had already cut their penalties with their counter attacks, was decisive. It is clear that Xavi has no Champions League experience as a manager. For example, if there was a coach like Ancelotti, who had Champions League experience, was cool and could act proactively according to the course of the match, they would win. The most important success of Real Madrid in this tournament lies here. They win the games they need to win. Since Ancelotti is one of the most important architects of Real's success, it is the first name that comes to mind when it comes to the Champions League, together with Real Madrid. So I found Barça's understanding of the game clumsy and inexperienced in a vital match that Barcelona must definitely win. The team has already looks bad. Gavi, Pedri, Ansufati, Dembele. Good, talented players too, but you can't compete with such inexperienced, rookie players in this tournament. Otherwise, you will unfortunately find yourself in the European league like last year and this year! In general, it was a fun, enjoyable and fast-paced match. I liked Martinez very much, Hakan Çalhanoğlu made a strong impression with his libero performance. Despite his age, Dzeko relieved his team by holding the ball very well in the future and became a very good wall against Barcelona's pressure.

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Looking at the current conditions of the groups, I can say that the most exciting and competitive ones are Group D and E.

In Group D, I really appreciate Marseille's incredible comeback. They started with two losses but they still didn't give up on anything. They defeated Sporting two times and took the second place. Marseille are already having a great season in the Ligue 1 and it looks like they can make it to next round here also. But the point difference between the 1st and last is only three. Therefore the balances can be upset even by only one week. I think that Tottenham will finish as the leader and Marseille will follow them.

For Group E, Chelsea have stepped up and taken the lead thanks to two wins recently. Milan are disappointing this time but I still believe in them. They finished the group stage at the last place last season. I don't think a similar scenario will happen again. They are stronger than Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb both. Even though Salzburg are ahead (by 2 pts) and Dinamo Zagreb share the points with them, Milan should still be able to defeat them both in the remaining games and continue in the Champions League.

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October 16, 2022, 08:38:43 PM
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For Group E, Chelsea have stepped up and taken the lead thanks to two wins recently. Milan are disappointing this time but I still believe in them. They finished the group stage at the last place last season. I don't think a similar scenario will happen again. They are stronger than Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb both. Even though Salzburg are ahead (by 2 pts) and Dinamo Zagreb share the points with them, Milan should still be able to defeat them both in the remaining games and continue in the Champions League.
In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.

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October 16, 2022, 11:03:39 PM
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For Group E, Chelsea have stepped up and taken the lead thanks to two wins recently. Milan are disappointing this time but I still believe in them. They finished the group stage at the last place last season. I don't think a similar scenario will happen again. They are stronger than Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb both. Even though Salzburg are ahead (by 2 pts) and Dinamo Zagreb share the points with them, Milan should still be able to defeat them both in the remaining games and continue in the Champions League.
In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.
Chelsea must win another match and it will go to the last 16. AC milan needs to work even harder than before caused by losing two times against chelsea has been giving a huge pressure for ac milan. That proves that if chelsea has the biggest chance to go the next stage. Chelsea may able to beat zagreb and salzburg with the current performance from the club. Im sure about this. It's caused by chelsea was always showing incredible performance during EPL.
I hope that chelsea will be winning the rest of matches easily without any problem.

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October 16, 2022, 11:45:21 PM
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In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.
Why should it be difficult to predict who will qualify for the next round after seeing the four matches they have played? Even though in the four matches that have happened, you can take a few clear references so that you can find out who will have a greater chance and the possibility to qualify for the next round. Although AC Milan and Dinamo Zagreb also still have a chance if they can both get a win in the two remaining matches in this group stage.

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October 17, 2022, 02:54:21 AM
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In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition
I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.
Barcelona's game is better. but indeed, their opponent had anticipated the right strategy to counter Xavi's tactics.
although their performance in the UCL has not been good, but Xavi has shown a Barcelona game that has returned. we've seen Barcelona play badly. last season, in La Liga.
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October 17, 2022, 03:18:52 AM
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I still see some people being hopeful about Barcelona to make it to next round. It is almost impossible truthfully.  Grin  They need a miracle for Inter to lose points against Plzen. Because Plzen have no goal left in the Champions League at this point. It is like there is no way they are stealing any point from Inter in an away match which they couldn't do in their home match. It is better to be realistic as a result. Otherwise I wouldn't like to see a big team like Barcelona in the Europa League of course.

Ajax, Atletico Madrid, Milan and Juventus are other teams that have surprised me so far with their performances. Juventus and Ajax are already close to the Europa League now but there is still hope for the other two.

I don't think, there will be hope for Barcelona to make it next round because they really missed their opportunity yesterday that made Real Madrid to defeated them 3-1. Yesterday match showed that Barcelona need to go and prepare well against other competitions because their performance in this competition is not encouraging, because many people predicted for the favour of Barcelona to win Real Madrid with many goals but Real Madrid defenders made the match difficult for Barcelona talented strikers not to achieve many goals from the match.

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October 17, 2022, 03:31:17 AM
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In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition
I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.
Barcelona is not playing so well. How can you call that barcelona was playing good while it was loosing 2 goals in the first half? That proves that if barcelona's team is not performing so well. Lewandowski can do nothing against world class defenders that played in real madrid.
People were seeing barcelona as an overrated team while they forgot if xavi never make this team come back to the its golden era again. So many barcelona fans are blaming xavi for this lol. Even my friends were also blaming him for the lose of barcelona.
It seems like that more and more barcelona players wanna leave from the club as soon as possible. I hope that de jong can consider moving back again to the EPL caused by that's the right place for him.

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October 17, 2022, 03:34:03 AM
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I still see some people being hopeful about Barcelona to make it to next round. It is almost impossible truthfully.  Grin  They need a miracle for Inter to lose points against Plzen. Because Plzen have no goal left in the Champions League at this point. It is like there is no way they are stealing any point from Inter in an away match which they couldn't do in their home match. It is better to be realistic as a result. Otherwise I wouldn't like to see a big team like Barcelona in the Europa League of course.

Ajax, Atletico Madrid, Milan and Juventus are other teams that have surprised me so far with their performances. Juventus and Ajax are already close to the Europa League now but there is still hope for the other two.

I don't think, there will be hope for Barcelona to make it next round because they really missed their opportunity yesterday that made Real Madrid to defeated them 3-1. Yesterday match showed that Barcelona need to go and prepare well against other competitions because their performance in this la Liga league competition was not encouraging, because many people predicted for the favour of Barcelona to win Real Madrid with many goals but Real Madrid defenders made the match difficult for Barcelona talented strikers not to achieve many goals from the match.
You are absolutely right mate. actually I really hope Barcelona can qualify. although the hope is indeed almost impossible. but yesterday I was still hopeful. But when you see the El Clasico match and Barcelona lose. I now have to accept that with Barcelona's current performance, it seems that it is no longer possible for Barcelona to qualify. but in the match against Real Madrid yesterday, actually Barcelona had more control of the game. but unfortunately barcelona is not good at maximizing the opportunities they get. Barcelona can still be stronger even if it takes time. but in the Champions League Barcelona doesn't have much time.

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October 17, 2022, 08:00:19 AM
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In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.
Why should it be difficult to predict who will qualify for the next round after seeing the four matches they have played? Even though in the four matches that have happened, you can take a few clear references so that you can find out who will have a greater chance and the possibility to qualify for the next round. Although AC Milan and Dinamo Zagreb also still have a chance if they can both get a win in the two remaining matches in this group stage.
The problem is in the actual performance.
For Chelsea this is still possible and the chances are still very big but for Milan or Salzburg it is definitely a little different. Even though Milan are still favored because they have a good squad in terms of players, their performance is still not very reliable, not to mention we already know that Salzburg is one of the clubs with a pretty good defense in my opinion.

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October 17, 2022, 09:22:25 AM
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Chelsea must win another match and it will go to the last 16. AC milan needs to work even harder than before caused by losing two times against chelsea has been giving a huge pressure for ac milan. That proves that if chelsea has the biggest chance to go the next stage. Chelsea may able to beat zagreb and salzburg with the current performance from the club. Im sure about this. It's caused by chelsea was always showing incredible performance during EPL.
I hope that chelsea will be winning the rest of matches easily without any problem.

We do have a problem, Reece James is injured. Our right wing back is very weak as we don't have a man to man type of player to take care of things as James usually does. I think there has been reports that he'll be out for 8 weeks which might likely make him miss the world cup. It seems Sterling was put to play in that position in our last match and he had zero impact on the game. Loftus-Cheek could play that wing same as Azpilicueta but neither of them can be relied on like James due to his all round game.

Both teams aren't much of a threat as we should be winning them without much challenge but we'll see how the squad plays in the coming weeks. I'm predicting a win as well but it won't be an easy ones. The good thing is our defense and keeper has been gaining some confidence due to the impressive clean sheet they have been on so I hope that continue as we play both champions league game.

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