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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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October 27, 2022, 09:39:48 AM
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Old habits dies hard it seems. Lewa went straight to Bayern locker room after the game ended in order to change some words with his ex-teammates but I think he should have moved further and be on his way to Barca locker room and try to motivate them because they just lost and moved into Europa League for 2nd time in a row...Sad. Lewa is a great player but he needs more support from his team because age won't wait for him any longer...

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October 27, 2022, 10:05:01 AM
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Yup, Barcelona had to go European Cup, the defeat at Cam Nou made the points gap with inter unable to be chased anymore. Inter have ten points while Barcelona are only four. Although there is still one match it will not be a impact anymore.
Bad history repeats, Xavi seems to have a headache with this state.

Barcelona's journey in the Champions League was really bad. out of 5 matches, they only won 1 time. Indeed, Barcelona is in the hard group where there are Bayern and also Inter. but this should be a means of proving that Xavi and his club are a giant club. but it looks like it's over. Even in the Europa League, whether they are able to take advantage of this opportunity to bring the trophy or not. Because there are also several big clubs that are currently very on fire.

For the second time Barcelona failed to qualify from the group stage in a row, being in the hell group made Barcelona experience difficulties in Five matches. One game remaining does not have any impact for Barcelona, winning a victory in the final match of the group stage will not change the situation, Barcelona has certainly been knocked out of the Champions League.
The impressive performances shown in La Liga cannot be continued in the UCL, Barcelona are still having difficulties facing Bayern Munich and Inter. Barcelona must learn from this failure, Xavi must not make the same mistake in the Europa League.
More counts are coming for them not to qualify from the group stage, they had depended for too long on Messi, so his leaving the club has not been fully countered. They need more quality players to get this done and Bayern Munich has once again shown them the supreme. The club deserve the win as they showed their dominance from the beginning to the end of the game.
What a flawless victory Bayern gave Barca yesterday, Bayerns used through passes to weaken Barca's defense and scored two goals in the first half,Mane scored first with a marvelous finishing from a through pass he got from Gnabry. Gnabry did a great assist in the game,he was the one that passed the ball to Pavard who wrapped the the match with the last goal at the 95th minutes to end 3-0 against Barca.

Barca is not fit for Bayern in football,from the history of matches played,Bayern has won Barca 9 matches out of 12 champion league matches. Barca has lost five straight matches to Bayern in UCL.

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October 27, 2022, 10:18:01 AM
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Porto win and got 3 points in this match, congrats sir because you rooting for Porto to win I think you also bet on that match, the score is also very great 0-4. Porto and Club Brugge qualify for the top 16, because the result of match Atletico Madrid ended in a draw, and with that draw they can't press again situation in group.

By the way, the most interesting next matches in group D, the 4 clubs still have a chance to qualify. Very interesting to watch later on matchday 6, I personally favorite Tottenham and Eintracht Frankfurt to qualify. What is your opinion about group D?
Group D is currently the most exciting of all. 1st place Tottenham with 8 points after an extreme overtime yesterday and a not given goal by kane in minute 95 and a red card for trainer Conte. Eintracht Frankfurt with a strong game yesterday against Marseille, it was the first Champions League home win in the club's history. Lissabon with 7 pionts and last one Marseille with 6 points. That means every Team can win the group at the last matchday, crazy.

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October 27, 2022, 10:19:42 AM
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We have 12 qualified teams before the last round which is quite disappointing - the final round will be mostly played for EL qualifications and will lack any excitement.

The only interesting group is group D, where all of the teams are inside 2 points and all of them can secure the knockouts or be left without European football.
Tottenham and Sporting do have a slight advantage, but that group will be interesting to track live and these are the games I'll be watching.

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October 27, 2022, 10:25:44 AM
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Old habits dies hard it seems. Lewa went straight to Bayern locker room after the game ended in order to change some words with his ex-teammates but I think he should have moved further and be on his way to Barca locker room and try to motivate them because they just lost and moved into Europa League for 2nd time in a row...Sad. Lewa is a great player but he needs more support from his team because age won't wait for him any longer...

I didn't see this live match until the end but indeed, it was very visible from the face of Lewandowski who was so disappointed even more so when Lewandowski was ready to take a penalty kick. But in the end the referee decided it wasn't a foul after seeing the VAR, so the penalty for Barcelona and the yellow card for de Ligt were cancelled. Lewandowski was really very emotional in this match but he was able to hold it or close it because after all, joining Barcelona was also his choice so Lewandowski had to be ready to accept the risk.

But apart from Lewandowski's disappointment and of course for the whole Barcelona team, I personally think that Barcelona do need a better coach. Because if I consider the quality of players, basically Barcelona have above average quality players, if Barcelona is coached by an exact coach then I think the strategy and player rotation that is applied will give a good final result for Barcelona as well.

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October 27, 2022, 10:41:00 AM
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Doesn't look good for FC Barcelona against FC Bayern. A clear defeat last night just as in the five games before. The statistics are crushing: 6 losses and only 4 goals against Bayern. Can't get worse.



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The last 6 games between Bayern and Barcelona:

Shots:
Bayern - 99
Barça - 52

Shots on target:
Bayern - 45
Barça - 15

Goals:
Bayern - 22
Barça - 4

Wins:
Bayern - 6
Barça - 0

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1585547816008572929/

And especially Robert Lewandowski, who left FC Bayern last summer to join FC Barcelona:

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Robert Lewandowski's defeats in his last 5 Champions League games with Barcelona: 3

Robert Lewandowski's defeats in his last 43 Champions League games with Bayern: 3

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1585401365848891393

I wonder if this is what he had in mind when he made the transfer. I don't think so.  Cheesy

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October 27, 2022, 10:42:40 AM
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Old habits dies hard it seems. Lewa went straight to Bayern locker room after the game ended in order to change some words with his ex-teammates but I think he should have moved further and be on his way to Barca locker room and try to motivate them because they just lost and moved into Europa League for 2nd time in a row...Sad. Lewa is a great player but he needs more support from his team because age won't wait for him any longer...

I didn't see this live match until the end but indeed, it was very visible from the face of Lewandowski who was so disappointed even more so when Lewandowski was ready to take a penalty kick. But in the end the referee decided it wasn't a foul after seeing the VAR, so the penalty for Barcelona and the yellow card for de Ligt were cancelled. Lewandowski was really very emotional in this match but he was able to hold it or close it because after all, joining Barcelona was also his choice so Lewandowski had to be ready to accept the risk.

But apart from Lewandowski's disappointment and of course for the whole Barcelona team, I personally think that Barcelona do need a better coach. Because if I consider the quality of players, basically Barcelona have above average quality players, if Barcelona is coached by an exact coach then I think the strategy and player rotation that is applied will give a good final result for Barcelona as well.
  You're right, I believe it's time for management to stop showing Xavi any respect and take necessary action by firing him. It is clear that he is unable to guide the team to any success. Barcelona's reputation is fading daily. It is inappropriate for such a club. Let the management get  a new manager as soon as we can. Barcelona is now not on the same level as Bayern Munich, I never thought they could beat Bayern Munich.

Lawandosky, meanwhile, decided where to go. He ought to be used to it by now. Not even him can save Barcelona.
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October 27, 2022, 10:48:24 AM
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UCL this season, we see many big names knocked out earlier in the group stage. Starting from Juventus, Barcelona, and Atletico Madrid. I'm not that surprised to see Juventus knocked out from the group stage because their performance is indeed bad in Serie A as well as in UCL. While Barcelona and Atletico Madrid are bit different as they are good enough in LaLiga but they cant show their best in UCL. From these 3 knocked teams, Barcelona has qualified to Europa League already while Juventus and Atletico Madrid still need to play the last match in the group stage and win the match in order to qualify tor Europa League. It will be silly if both team fails to qualify.
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October 27, 2022, 10:52:44 AM
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Yup, Barcelona had to go European Cup, the defeat at Cam Nou made the points gap with inter unable to be chased anymore. Inter have ten points while Barcelona are only four. Although there is still one match it will not be a impact anymore.
Bad history repeats, Xavi seems to have a headache with this state.

Barcelona's journey in the Champions League was really bad. out of 5 matches, they only won 1 time. Indeed, Barcelona is in the hard group where there are Bayern and also Inter. but this should be a means of proving that Xavi and his club are a giant club. but it looks like it's over. Even in the Europa League, whether they are able to take advantage of this opportunity to bring the trophy or not. Because there are also several big clubs that are currently very on fire.

For the second time Barcelona failed to qualify from the group stage in a row, being in the hell group made Barcelona experience difficulties in Five matches. One game remaining does not have any impact for Barcelona, winning a victory in the final match of the group stage will not change the situation, Barcelona has certainly been knocked out of the Champions League.
The impressive performances shown in La Liga cannot be continued in the UCL, Barcelona are still having difficulties facing Bayern Munich and Inter. Barcelona must learn from this failure, Xavi must not make the same mistake in the Europa League.
More counts are coming for them not to qualify from the group stage, they had depended for too long on Messi, so his leaving the club has not been fully countered. They need more quality players to get this done and Bayern Munich has once again shown them the supreme. The club deserve the win as they showed their dominance from the beginning to the end of the game.
What a flawless victory Bayern gave Barca yesterday, Bayerns used through passes to weaken Barca's defense and scored two goals in the first half,Mane scored first with a marvelous finishing from a through pass he got from Gnabry. Gnabry did a great assist in the game,he was the one that passed the ball to Pavard who wrapped the the match with the last goal at the 95th minutes to end 3-0 against Barca.

Barca is not fit for Bayern in football,from the history of matches played,Bayern has won Barca 9 matches out of 12 champion league matches. Barca has lost five straight matches to Bayern in UCL.

Marvelous is the right word for Mane's goal. Actually, that was the Mane we all know from Liverpool. The goal was absolutely brilliant. But to be honest, the service by Gnabry was insane! Cheesy I am not sure how often out of 10 times he would place that ball exactly where Mane was able to touch it first. A genius cooperation and timing between the two. I hope that Mane can now more often show his real quality. His speed was good as well. He seemed a bit slow to me the past weeks.

In total, I didn't expect Barcelona to give away the game that way even though they were already aware they couldn't make it anymore into the final round. But losing 0-3 that way is a bit too much for my taste.

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October 27, 2022, 10:55:34 AM
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UCL this season, we see many big names knocked out earlier in the group stage. Starting from Juventus, Barcelona, and Atletico Madrid. I'm not that surprised to see Juventus knocked out from the group stage because their performance is indeed bad in Serie A as well as in UCL. While Barcelona and Atletico Madrid are bit different as they are good enough in LaLiga but they cant show their best in UCL. From these 3 knocked teams, Barcelona has qualified to Europa League already while Juventus and Atletico Madrid still need to play the last match in the group stage and win the match in order to qualify tor Europa League. It will be silly if both team fails to qualify.
Being big clubs is not a guarantee for them to beat other clubs. If they can not win enough, they will habe to accept lower rankings in their groups. From Barcelona to Athletico Madrid and Juventus, I don't feel regret for them because their general performances are bad.

Athletico Madrid looks to have better performance than Barcelona and Juventus but they did not play well enough. Like in the yesterday match, they struggled to beat Leverkusen and even got a golden penalty in 90+5 min, they wasted it.

Look at it in another perspective, these clubs will make Europa League more exciting. At least they will still have chance to win Europa League title. In Champions League, they nearly have no chance to be frankly said.

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October 27, 2022, 11:10:28 AM
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Barcelona needs to get rid of the veterans like Busquets and Pique. They did a great job in the last 10 years for the club, but they can't maintain their top performance from 10 years ago. Barcelona needs more physical strength in the middle. Pedri is a really talented player, but he's short and skinny. Keeping Lewandowski and Dembele for the next season is crucial. I don't know why Barcelona sold Aybameyang, maybe because of the financial difficulties the Catalonian club is facing. Aybameyang and Lewandowski would have been a great attacking duo.
I'm also sad that Atletico Madrid missed the chance to win against Leverkusen. That missed penalty at the end was ridiculous.

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October 27, 2022, 11:18:13 AM
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Ajax is bad this year. Not only bad but also in a difficult group. Napoli are in great form this year and it is no surprise that they are leading the group.
Club brugge suffered their first defeat in the group at home against porto. This win opened the door for porto for the last 16.  Atletico madrid and leverkusen will compete for Europa.

There is nothing surprising in the fact that the results of Ajax fell - several key players plus the head coach left the club. Such is the fate of all poor clubs that show themselves very brightly.
A rather ridiculous situation happened with Brugge - even after suffering a crushing defeat, they guaranteed themselves access to the next round due to a draw in a parallel game where Atlético and Bayer deprived each other of the chances for the playoffs. I think that Atlético will get into the Europa League and there will be super competition for the title.

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October 27, 2022, 11:26:07 AM
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Barcelona needs to get rid of the veterans like Busquets and Pique. They did a great job in the last 10 years for the club, but they can't maintain their top performance from 10 years ago. Barcelona needs more physical strength in the middle. Pedri is a really talented player, but he's short and skinny. Keeping Lewandowski and Dembele for the next season is crucial.

They are regenerating, they need time. The blackness of Xavi, Inesta and Messi gave Barcelona a hard time. Only Busquet and Pique were left at this time. Pedri is a good player but he needs a lot of hours to play.
This failure can certainly illustrate that Barcelona's glory is still not back. Xavi has not been able to make Barcelona great again. Next is the European cup, Xavi must maximize the results in the Europa League. Maybe they should be champions so that fans don't get disappointed.

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October 27, 2022, 11:39:04 AM
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Barcelona needs to get rid of the veterans like Busquets and Pique. They did a great job in the last 10 years for the club, but they can't maintain their top performance from 10 years ago. Barcelona needs more physical strength in the middle. Pedri is a really talented player, but he's short and skinny. Keeping Lewandowski and Dembele for the next season is crucial. I don't know why Barcelona sold Aybameyang, maybe because of the financial difficulties the Catalonian club is facing. Aybameyang and Lewandowski would have been a great attacking duo.
I'm also sad that Atletico Madrid missed the chance to win against Leverkusen. That missed penalty at the end was ridiculous.

This is not a problem that will be solved only with Busquets and Pique. With each passing year, there is a decrease in Barcelona's performance. And that's because of the new footballers. They could not create the team spirit of Barcelona that happened in previous years. If we examine it carefully, we will notice that; Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Mascherano etc. as players left the team, Barcelona lost the ability to be a team. I'm sorry to say, it doesn't seem like it's going to be easy for them to go back to the good old days again.

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October 27, 2022, 11:45:17 AM
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Barcelona needs to get rid of the veterans like Busquets and Pique. They did a great job in the last 10 years for the club, but they can't maintain their top performance from 10 years ago. Barcelona needs more physical strength in the middle. Pedri is a really talented player, but he's short and skinny. Keeping Lewandowski and Dembele for the next season is crucial.

They are regenerating, they need time. The blackness of Xavi, Inesta and Messi gave Barcelona a hard time. Only Busquet and Pique were left at this time. Pedri is a good player but he needs a lot of hours to play.
This failure can certainly illustrate that Barcelona's glory is still not back. Xavi has not been able to make Barcelona great again. Next is the European cup, Xavi must maximize the results in the Europa League. Maybe they should be champions so that fans don't get disappointed.

Or xavi will have the same result as last year when barcelona lose against Eintracht. People are always saying this club would be winning everything while they didn't see how reality will be going on.

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Barcelona’s 12 Europa League/UEFA Cup campaigns so far: how they fared
1972/73: first round
1973/74: first round
1975/76: semi-finals
1976/77: quarter-finals
1977/78: semi-finals
1980/81: second round
1986/87: quarter-finals
1987/88: quarter-finals
1995/96: semi-finals
2000/01: semi-finals
2003/04: last 16
2021/22: quarter-finals
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Barcelona can face another team that can even beat it easily just like MU, etc. That means barcelona has 50:50 chance to win the league or leaving again like last year. People must not always think this club is the most perfect club in the world caused by the result since a few years ago have proven if that's wrong.

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October 27, 2022, 11:53:47 AM
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It was such a dramatic ending for Atletico Madrid. They were so close to defeating Bayer Leverkusen actually. The minute was like 90+9 while Atletico Madrid were using their last chance by a penalty. The goalkeeper Hradecky saved the penalty first. Then there was a header by Atletico Madrid but it bounced off the goal post. Right after that they tried their luck again with another shot but it hit Carrasco and the ball went just over the upper goal post.

By this 2-2 draw, Atletico Madrid are also officially in the Europa League. They weren't very good here last season as well and barely managed to move on by the last group games. But this time they couldn't do the same and said goodbye to the Champions League even before the last games. Actually there has been an improvement in their effort in the La Liga lately but it isn't the same when it comes to this tournament I'm afraid.

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October 27, 2022, 11:57:48 AM
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Barcelona needs to get rid of the veterans like Busquets and Pique. They did a great job in the last 10 years for the club, but they can't maintain their top performance from 10 years ago. Barcelona needs more physical strength in the middle. Pedri is a really talented player, but he's short and skinny. Keeping Lewandowski and Dembele for the next season is crucial. I don't know why Barcelona sold Aybameyang, maybe because of the financial difficulties the Catalonian club is facing. Aybameyang and Lewandowski would have been a great attacking duo.
I'm also sad that Atletico Madrid missed the chance to win against Leverkusen. That missed penalty at the end was ridiculous.

They have the players i think the problem is the staff and coaches. With how much money problems they have they dont have player problems they can get some good defenders to make their defence stronger but thats it. They have a good team only its not used the way it has to be used. Another waste of a season for Barcelona in the champions league.

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By this 2-2 draw, Atletico Madrid are also officially in the Europa League. They weren't very good here last season as well and barely managed to move on by the last group games. But this time they couldn't do the same and said goodbye to the Champions League even before the last games. Actually there has been an improvement in their effort in the La Liga lately but it isn't the same when it comes to this tournament I'm afraid.
Looking at how serious the match was, I believe that Bayern Leverkusen will qualify after securing the draw, because they, like Atletico Madrid, tried everything possible to secure a win, but both were unlucky as the match ended in a draw, and FC Porto were fortunate to secure a win against group B leaders Club Brugge as they finally secured their spot on the UEFA Champions League round of 16 which was not as expected at the start of the Champions League.

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Barcelona needs to get rid of the veterans like Busquets and Pique. They did a great job in the last 10 years for the club, but they can't maintain their top performance from 10 years ago. Barcelona needs more physical strength in the middle. Pedri is a really talented player, but he's short and skinny. Keeping Lewandowski and Dembele for the next season is crucial. I don't know why Barcelona sold Aybameyang, maybe because of the financial difficulties the Catalonian club is facing. Aybameyang and Lewandowski would have been a great attacking duo.
I'm also sad that Atletico Madrid missed the chance to win against Leverkusen. That missed penalty at the end was ridiculous.

They have the players i think the problem is the staff and coaches. With how much money problems they have they dont have player problems they can get some good defenders to make their defence stronger but thats it. They have a good team only its not used the way it has to be used. Another waste of a season for Barcelona in the champions league.
It's a bad day for Barcelona. They lost badly when they played at home and they had to be eliminated from the Champions League. I think there is something they need to fix because if they just keep playing like that then they too will definitely be eliminated from the Europa League.

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October 27, 2022, 12:50:46 PM
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Inter - Plzen game is very critical for Barcelona. Unless Plzen defeat Inter, Barcelona are out of the Champions League officially. The result of their Bayern Munich game won't matter in that case.

Considering the current condition of Inter and Plzen, there is no way Plzen are getting a win of course. Inter should be able to destroy them by a clear score. I didn't even bet on Barcelona - Bayern Munich because I want to see how Inter's game will go on first. But if I bet on that game anyway then my preference would be both teams to score. This time Barcelona also should be able to score at least one goal in home stadium. The odd for that is quite low like 1.43 maybe but it can still be added to a parlay.

The fate of a big club like Barcelona must be decided by Plzen is an irony. Now that Inter Milan have led 3 - 0 against Plzen, it is certain that Barcelona's chance to advance to the next round of the Champions League is increasingly impossible. It was a bad day for Barcelona and after this they had to go to the Europa League.
It's more than impossible for Barcelona to progress to the next round, even though they won against Bayern Muchen which I don't think Bayern Muchen will let Barcelona win.
Inter vs Viktoria Plzen the current score is 4-0 Lukaku's last goal in the 87th minute after replacing Martinez in the 84th minute, and Viktoria Plzen is an easy opponent for Inter and also without a win against all the teams in group C which makes it easier for Inter qualify for the next round with Bayern Muchen.
Last night when the score was already 3 - 0 I had turned off the television because I was very sure that Inter Milan would win and be the runner up of the group. This is the second time in a row Barcelona have dropped into the Europa League, after last season they also suffered the same fate.
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