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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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October 29, 2022, 11:04:49 AM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Even though they were eliminated from UCL and will play in UEL, I don't think that they will not pursue the UEL title. There is no reason for them not to pursue that title. Like Barcelona for example, they haven't performed well enough than their eternal rivals (Real Madrid), so, if they want to get at least one title for this season, they have to win the UEL title.

About the UEL champion candidates, who do you think has the most potential to become the UCL champion? For me, Manchester United are at the forefront of getting this title.

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October 29, 2022, 11:25:40 AM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Why won't they desire to win the title? That will be added to their achievements for the club. Remember that the Super Cup is played between champions league and Europa league winners, and it is an important trophy that every team would like to win. Instead of qualifying for the Champions League knockout stage and then losing, I believe it is preferable to win the Europa League.

All of the teams that moved from the Champions League to the Europa League will make the competition more exciting to watch. We'll have an interesting competition here with top teams like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Athletico Madrid, Arsenal, and Manchester United. With Arsenal in good form right now, I believe they have a good chance of winning the Europa League this season.

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October 29, 2022, 12:07:30 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Even though they were eliminated from UCL and will play in UEL, I don't think that they will not pursue the UEL title. There is no reason for them not to pursue that title. Like Barcelona for example, they haven't performed well enough than their eternal rivals (Real Madrid), so, if they want to get at least one title for this season, they have to win the UEL title.

About the UEL champion candidates, who do you think has the most potential to become the UCL champion? For me, Manchester United are at the forefront of getting this title.
Given that there are a lot of big teams now there, the competition will be even more difficult. I expect them to take it seriously even though it's not the Champions League as they were aiming for. Because usually those who are labeled as big teams are not too serious in looking at matches in the Europa League, for some reason maybe they don't really want the trophy.

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October 29, 2022, 12:40:53 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Why won't they desire to win the title? That will be added to their achievements for the club. Remember that the Super Cup is played between champions league and Europa league winners, and it is an important trophy that every team would like to win. Instead of qualifying for the Champions League knockout stage and then losing, I believe it is preferable to win the Europa League.

All of the teams that moved from the Champions League to the Europa League will make the competition more exciting to watch. We'll have an interesting competition here with top teams like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Athletico Madrid, Arsenal, and Manchester United. With Arsenal in good form right now, I believe they have a good chance of winning the Europa League this season.
It's good to see the big teams will meet each other again in the Europa League. That will add to the competition which is interesting to watch. When else will we see a match between representatives from the top league leagues will face each other other than in the Champions League and Europa League this time. The disappointment they received in the Champions League should have paid for it here by playing their best to show that they are not over.

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October 29, 2022, 01:02:17 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Why won't they desire to win the title? That will be added to their achievements for the club. Remember that the Super Cup is played between champions league and Europa league winners, and it is an important trophy that every team would like to win. Instead of qualifying for the Champions League knockout stage and then losing, I believe it is preferable to win the Europa League.

All of the teams that moved from the Champions League to the Europa League will make the competition more exciting to watch. We'll have an interesting competition here with top teams like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Athletico Madrid, Arsenal, and Manchester United. With Arsenal in good form right now, I believe they have a good chance of winning the Europa League this season.

That's very strange that we forgot about the money. I read that Villereal earned only about 20 million euros in prize money, not counting television broadcasts, but the amounts were not disclosed there. It seems that the amount is not the largest, but for poor teams this is an opportunity to make 1-2 good transfers, with money from victories in the Europa League.
Top teams that played first in the Champions League, and then moved to the Europa League can earn 30-35 million, like Manchester United in 21.

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October 29, 2022, 01:21:14 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Even though they were eliminated from UCL and will play in UEL, I don't think that they will not pursue the UEL title. There is no reason for them not to pursue that title. Like Barcelona for example, they haven't performed well enough than their eternal rivals (Real Madrid), so, if they want to get at least one title for this season, they have to win the UEL title.

About the UEL champion candidates, who do you think has the most potential to become the UCL champion? For me, Manchester United are at the forefront of getting this title.
Actually in this case there should be more priority than Barcelona in UEL. They have to be aware that when they are eliminated how much loss they will get as a result of this. At least in this case when they manage to be in the forefront in the hunt for the Europa League at least they will have more chances to slightly reduce the losses they get.

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October 29, 2022, 02:48:08 PM
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Liverpool have seemed to be very promising thanks to their performance in their last four group games. It was a horrible start against Napoli by a 4-1 loss and I started questioning their future already. However they still showed their quality and won four games in a row.

However two of these games were against Rangers and they didn't have any problem at all in those games as a result. The other two were against Ajax which were a strong team on paper. But in action, they have had a horrible run in the Champions League. I don't remember the last time I saw them this much weak here. I just want to see Liverpool against bigger teams after the group stage. If we still see some struggle and inconsistency just as in the EPL then I don't think they can make it to the CL title this season.

If we are realistic and do not expect Liverpool to win over Napoli in the last round, and with a difference of at least 4 goals, then we can say that Liverpool ends the group stage in second place. This means that in the 1/8 finals they have a great chance to immediately get a very strong opponent. And I would say that this is fair - last season they had the easiest calendar of games until the very final and if this season everything is the other way around, then it will be fair.

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October 29, 2022, 03:32:26 PM
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PFG vs Troyes today is a very good match in the Champions League game. Troyes gave PSG a goal just 2 minutes into the game. However, PSG is a very strong team and nobody expected them to score so soon. Because even though PSG has three stars, they are not performing very well in today's match. However, it is currently seen in the live game that a goal has just been scored by PSG. With the endless cooperation of Neymar, Carlos Soler A goal given very perfectly. Currently PSG team players are showing very good game while Troyes team players are not performing well. Now if Troyes team needs a good game against PSG because if not PSG is likely to score a few more goals. Now a very tight game is going on between the two teams, let's see which team wins at the end of the game.
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October 29, 2022, 04:42:42 PM
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Liverpool have seemed to be very promising thanks to their performance in their last four group games. It was a horrible start against Napoli by a 4-1 loss and I started questioning their future already. However they still showed their quality and won four games in a row.
However two of these games were against Rangers and they didn't have any problem at all in those games as a result. The other two were against Ajax which were a strong team on paper. But in action, they have had a horrible run in the Champions League. I don't remember the last time I saw them this much weak here. I just want to see Liverpool against bigger teams after the group stage. If we still see some struggle and inconsistency just as in the EPL then I don't think they can make it to the CL title this season.
If we are realistic and do not expect Liverpool to win over Napoli in the last round, and with a difference of at least 4 goals, then we can say that Liverpool ends the group stage in second place. This means that in the 1/8 finals they have a great chance to immediately get a very strong opponent. And I would say that this is fair - last season they had the easiest calendar of games until the very final and if this season everything is the other way around, then it will be fair.

Liverpool has won four matches in the Champions League as well. Even then I would say Liverpool's performance is not stable. They are not playing well in the Premier League. And they have to fight hard to win every match. I don't even think that Liverpool will win against Napoli in the last match. Napoli's current performance is far better than Liverpool's. My prediction is that Napoli will beat Liverpool 2-0 in the last match.
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October 29, 2022, 05:00:30 PM
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Liverpool have seemed to be very promising thanks to their performance in their last four group games. It was a horrible start against Napoli by a 4-1 loss and I started questioning their future already. However they still showed their quality and won four games in a row.

However two of these games were against Rangers and they didn't have any problem at all in those games as a result. The other two were against Ajax which were a strong team on paper. But in action, they have had a horrible run in the Champions League. I don't remember the last time I saw them this much weak here. I just want to see Liverpool against bigger teams after the group stage. If we still see some struggle and inconsistency just as in the EPL then I don't think they can make it to the CL title this season.

If we are realistic and do not expect Liverpool to win over Napoli in the last round, and with a difference of at least 4 goals, then we can say that Liverpool ends the group stage in second place. This means that in the 1/8 finals they have a great chance to immediately get a very strong opponent. And I would say that this is fair - last season they had the easiest calendar of games until the very final and if this season everything is the other way around, then it will be fair.
Napoli are a very strong team now, they are showing that not only in the Champions League but also in the domestic league they are doing well. But the last game will mean nothing for both teams because they have already made sure to qualify for the next round. I think they will play it safe and if they want this game they can use it to rotate the team to keep the main players fit.

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October 29, 2022, 05:05:10 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Even though they were eliminated from UCL and will play in UEL, I don't think that they will not pursue the UEL title. There is no reason for them not to pursue that title. Like Barcelona for example, they haven't performed well enough than their eternal rivals (Real Madrid), so, if they want to get at least one title for this season, they have to win the UEL title.

About the UEL champion candidates, who do you think has the most potential to become the UCL champion? For me, Manchester United are at the forefront of getting this title.
Given that there are a lot of big teams now there, the competition will be even more difficult. I expect them to take it seriously even though it's not the Champions League as they were aiming for. Because usually those who are labeled as big teams are not too serious in looking at matches in the Europa League, for some reason maybe they don't really want the trophy.

You never know, it might produce surprising results in this year's tournament.  Barcelona will go to the UEL and they will work hard to win this trophy.  There are strong teams in UEL as well.  For example, Arsenal is one of the strongest contenders.  Barcelona will have to beat them.  There will also be strong teams coming from UCL.  UEL has now become an interesting league like UCL.

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October 29, 2022, 05:41:06 PM
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It's like we are seeing the same scenario for two seasons especially.
Some big teams are unexpectedly eliminated in the Champions League and they continue on their way in the Europa League. This time there are teams like Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Ajax for example. Atletico Madrid might not even qualify for the Europa League though depending on the results on the final week. There is Sevilla there also but I don't see it interesting because they are known by the Europa League more actually. Because they won the title there so many times.  Grin
it was a surprise that happened in the ucl this season. how impossible it is for Barcelona not to qualify for the next round and of course no one thought they had to play in the Europa League but in reality it all happened. well one fate maybe we will see group E where we will see an opportunity from Ac milan to qualify for the next round in the life and death match against Rb salzburg because if AC milan loses then the euro league will await them and vice versa. This season's champions league was full of surprises in the group phase where Barcelona, ​​Juventus, and Ajax had to go home first due to loss after loss. PSG, Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are still the strongest candidates in the UCL and I think the knockout round will be quite an interesting spectacle.
I think what is actually so concerning about Barcelona now getting into the Europa League is that it has happened for the second time in a row. That is probably a historic event, I haven't fact checked that though. Thinking back to the times when Messi was still there, it was unimaginable that Barcelona would ever play Europa League let alone two years in a row. I am curious how they are going to be dealing with it as it also entails further problems financially. Signing new players is much harder, keeping good players is harder and sponsorships might also become less attractive over time. Now the last point I mentioned won't play a role yet as Barcelona has its reputation and it is still great, but if they keep failing to qualify for the final round in the Champions League that reputation will also start to fall apart at some point.
Currently, there are very talented players in Barcelona in terms of the quality of the player pool. Strategies and game order in the game did not fully understand, there is still a problem there. This year, the club you mentioned has worn itself out financially. The Champions League was very important. For now, they should focus on the league cup, they have a very strong rival there, it's difficult, in short, Barcelona's

Barcelona has a lot of talented players. Barcelona has plenty of talented players in attack and midfield. But the party is still not stable. The bonding between the players is still not good. I would say their match strategy is weak. Also their defense is weak. Against Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and Real Madrid, Barcelona's defense was very fragile. And Barcelona lost points in these matches due to poor defense. However, apart from these matches, the performance of Barcelona's defenders against other teams was excellent. However, Xavi should be given more time to stabilize and strengthen the team. He might be able to solve the team's problems.

We are talking about the Champions League here. It is of course nice to have a lot of talented players, but if you want to compete with the best of the best you need superstars in your team that are ready to deliver world class performances nonstop. Right now there is Lewandowski and Dembele who performed very well for quite some time now, but it is still not enough as we could see now. The other top teams have at least five world class players who are beyond the talent status, probably even way more than five. It feels a bit as if they are extremely dependent on Lewandowski and if he doesn't score (as we have seen against Bayern), they instantly get into trouble. They need to fix that in order to be competitive again in the Champions League. 

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October 29, 2022, 06:26:13 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Even though they were eliminated from UCL and will play in UEL, I don't think that they will not pursue the UEL title. There is no reason for them not to pursue that title. Like Barcelona for example, they haven't performed well enough than their eternal rivals (Real Madrid), so, if they want to get at least one title for this season, they have to win the UEL title.

About the UEL champion candidates, who do you think has the most potential to become the UCL champion? For me, Manchester United are at the forefront of getting this title.
Actually in this case there should be more priority than Barcelona in UEL. They have to be aware that when they are eliminated how much loss they will get as a result of this. At least in this case when they manage to be in the forefront in the hunt for the Europa League at least they will have more chances to slightly reduce the losses they get.
I agree with you that Barcelona can use the Europa League as a tournament that they will dominate and become champions, even though we all know that now the Europa League is inhabited by big teams who have moved from the Champions League because they cannot compete in the group phase. Apart from La Liga, they have to maximize the Europa League well and become champions there. They have to play seriously, I mean sometimes a lot of teams underestimate their games in the Europa League.

Liverpool have seemed to be very promising thanks to their performance in their last four group games. It was a horrible start against Napoli by a 4-1 loss and I started questioning their future already. However they still showed their quality and won four games in a row.

However two of these games were against Rangers and they didn't have any problem at all in those games as a result. The other two were against Ajax which were a strong team on paper. But in action, they have had a horrible run in the Champions League. I don't remember the last time I saw them this much weak here. I just want to see Liverpool against bigger teams after the group stage. If we still see some struggle and inconsistency just as in the EPL then I don't think they can make it to the CL title this season.

If we are realistic and do not expect Liverpool to win over Napoli in the last round, and with a difference of at least 4 goals, then we can say that Liverpool ends the group stage in second place. This means that in the 1/8 finals they have a great chance to immediately get a very strong opponent. And I would say that this is fair - last season they had the easiest calendar of games until the very final and if this season everything is the other way around, then it will be fair.
Even though I am a Liverpool fan, but I agree with you, yes it is an objective assessment of what you say. Even so, I still expect Liverpool to win even though this will not affect whether or not they qualify for the next phase because they have already made sure of qualifying. I hope Liverpool will show their best game against Napoli later.

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October 29, 2022, 06:43:04 PM
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PFG vs Troyes today is a very good match in the Champions League game. Troyes gave PSG a goal just 2 minutes into the game. However, PSG is a very strong team and nobody expected them to score so soon. Because even though PSG has three stars, they are not performing very well in today's match. However, it is currently seen in the live game that a goal has just been scored by PSG. With the endless cooperation of Neymar, Carlos Soler A goal given very perfectly. Currently PSG team players are showing very good game while Troyes team players are not performing well. Now if Troyes team needs a good game against PSG because if not PSG is likely to score a few more goals. Now a very tight game is going on between the two teams, let's see which team wins at the end of the game.
It is good to see PSG win against Troyes it ended in a 4-3 Carlos Soler scoring in the 24', Messi in the 55', Nyemar in the 62' and Mbappe with the penalty win in the 77'. Troyes were almost difficult as they were creating chances with every little opportunity the had despite PSG dominating the game Troyes found a way of replying every goal scored by PSG it was a fun game altogether

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Liverpool have seemed to be very promising thanks to their performance in their last four group games. It was a horrible start against Napoli by a 4-1 loss and I started questioning their future already. However they still showed their quality and won four games in a row.

However two of these games were against Rangers and they didn't have any problem at all in those games as a result. The other two were against Ajax which were a strong team on paper. But in action, they have had a horrible run in the Champions League. I don't remember the last time I saw them this much weak here. I just want to see Liverpool against bigger teams after the group stage. If we still see some struggle and inconsistency just as in the EPL then I don't think they can make it to the CL title this season.

If we are realistic and do not expect Liverpool to win over Napoli in the last round, and with a difference of at least 4 goals, then we can say that Liverpool ends the group stage in second place. This means that in the 1/8 finals they have a great chance to immediately get a very strong opponent. And I would say that this is fair - last season they had the easiest calendar of games until the very final and if this season everything is the other way around, then it will be fair.
Napoli are a very strong team now, they are showing that not only in the Champions League but also in the domestic league they are doing well. But the last game will mean nothing for both teams because they have already made sure to qualify for the next round. I think they will play it safe and if they want this game they can use it to rotate the team to keep the main players fit.
Napoli can go honestly really far in the champions league if they continue to play like this. I dont know how much experience this team has in the knockout faze but i think they will go really far. They are currently on a 12 match winning streak and i dont see it ending anytime soon.

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October 29, 2022, 06:51:37 PM
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It is good to see PSG win against Troyes it ended in a 4-3 Carlos Soler scoring in the 24', Messi in the 55', Nyemar in the 62' and Mbappe with the penalty win in the 77'. Troyes were almost difficult as they were creating chances with every little opportunity the had despite PSG dominating the game Troyes found a way of replying every goal scored by PSG it was a fun game altogether
We all applaud PSG for finding the back of their opponents net but fans of PSG know that the only snag holding them back from being truly dominant this season just like Manchester City is their defence. Anyone with a hawk eye will be able to spot this weakness when they play with smaller teams but sooner than later when they face big tough opponents, this weakness may cost them a lot if it is not fixed immediately.

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October 29, 2022, 07:57:03 PM
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There are many big teams joining the Europa League from the group stage of the Champions League this time. I wonder how many of them will care about that tournament and try to win the title.

Why won't they desire to win the title? That will be added to their achievements for the club. Remember that the Super Cup is played between champions league and Europa league winners, and it is an important trophy that every team would like to win. Instead of qualifying for the Champions League knockout stage and then losing, I believe it is preferable to win the Europa League.

All of the teams that moved from the Champions League to the Europa League will make the competition more exciting to watch. We'll have an interesting competition here with top teams like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Athletico Madrid, Arsenal, and Manchester United. With Arsenal in good form right now, I believe they have a good chance of winning the Europa League this season.

Actually Velvet78 has a point there.

I mean that we saw some examples about this before. In the previous season, Dortmund were one of the teams relegating from the Champions League to the Europa League. Their opponent there was Rangers and they were eliminated by them right away. Normally you would expect Dortmund to just destroy a team like Rangers but they didn't. Barcelona were also one of the strongest candidates for the title but they couldn't reach even the final. I believe these were all because of their not caring about the Europa League as much as the Champions League. But there is no obligation like this will always go on like this of course.

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October 29, 2022, 08:36:33 PM
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It is good to see PSG win against Troyes it ended in a 4-3 Carlos Soler scoring in the 24', Messi in the 55', Nyemar in the 62' and Mbappe with the penalty win in the 77'. Troyes were almost difficult as they were creating chances with every little opportunity the had despite PSG dominating the game Troyes found a way of replying every goal scored by PSG it was a fun game altogether
We all applaud PSG for finding the back of their opponents net but fans of PSG know that the only snag holding them back from being truly dominant this season just like Manchester City is their defence. Anyone with a hawk eye will be able to spot this weakness when they play with smaller teams but sooner than later when they face big tough opponents, this weakness may cost them a lot if it is not fixed immediately.
But in this match I will also appreciate what Troyes did with their condition under pressure they can still create 3 goals in this match and of course this is something that should be noticed that PSG are still struggling to deal with fast counter attacks by opponents.
Even with 32% possession from Troyes they were able to create lots of chances in this match. In this case, we can conclude that their defense is still not going well when focusing on attacking.
It's definitely not very good in the Champions League because the opponents they face are clearly different from Ligue 1

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Actually expecting something like that is not too wrong because Lewa is a targetman and Lewa can actually still be hopeful but the problem is that the supply given to Lewa in the last few matches is not very good which makes Lewa unable to play like she should.
With this condition there will actually be worries for Xavi but seeing the condition of Barcelona it will only stay like that because if they change the coach again it will be very difficult for their financial condition.

This will always be the problem of teams that rely on a player to get the needed results. In the case of Barcelona, opponents have began to understand that if the stop the flow of the ball to Robert Lewandowski, the team would become powerless in the attack. So the teams would device ways to block the aerial passes from the wings and chock-up the midfield to ensure that he doesn't get the ball. And Lewandowski don't have the strength to get ball from the midfield or run through the flanks because of his age. That is why Chelsea would always be an unpredictable team because even defenders a potential goalscorers.   

 
This is the problem Xavi is too focused on Lewandowski as a target man so that the scheme they do is quite clear to read from the start.
Even though they have some typical midfielders and wing runners like Gavi or Pedri in midfield as well as Dembele, Ansu and Rafinha whose skills are actually above average but indeed Xavi seems to still want to continue with his tiki taka philosophy so that these players are not too maximum in performance.

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October 29, 2022, 08:58:06 PM
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Why won't they desire to win the title? That will be added to their achievements for the club. Remember that the Super Cup is played between champions league and Europa league winners, and it is an important trophy that every team would like to win. Instead of qualifying for the Champions League knockout stage and then losing, I believe it is preferable to win the Europa League.

All of the teams that moved from the Champions League to the Europa League will make the competition more exciting to watch. We'll have an interesting competition here with top teams like Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Athletico Madrid, Arsenal, and Manchester United. With Arsenal in good form right now, I believe they have a good chance of winning the Europa League this season.
That's very strange that we forgot about the money. I read that Villereal earned only about 20 million euros in prize money, not counting television broadcasts, but the amounts were not disclosed there. It seems that the amount is not the largest, but for poor teams this is an opportunity to make 1-2 good transfers, with money from victories in the Europa League.
Top teams that played first in the Champions League, and then moved to the Europa League can earn 30-35 million, like Manchester United in 21.
I would guess that making 20 million in today's age doesn't mean anything. This is why most clubs in Europe are being sold these days, because they are not making any profit, you could make as much as 100-150 million euro per year, but between salaries of the players and the operational costs it would require you to spend at least that much every year just to continue, and most teams have debts as well they pay, so it's a loss, on top of that there are changes in the clubs as well, such as sacking a manager but still paying his termination clause and all, or most importantly buying players. This is why it's not that easy for smaller clubs to go further ahead when bigger clubs usually are just way too rich.

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