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Liverpool is a big name that is supposed to be among the top 5 in when it comes to position. I know Liverpool are doing more better in the Champions league but I don't think it is possible for them to win the Champions league when their are other tough teams.
It has happen for 6 seasons in a row before this, we must understand that no performance lasts forever, there will be times when Liverpool suffer a drastic decline in the standings like now. I remember, the last time Liverpool were outside the top 5 of the Premier League is the 2015-16 season But fortunately Liverpool's decline in Premier League performance did not carry over to the Champions League, they get a good position and play well in the Champions League group stage.
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November 05, 2022, 02:47:02 PM |
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After a game like this, we really have to wonder how Chelsea managed to lose the first game against Dinamo in Zagreb, because the big difference in quality between these two teams is obvious.
There is a very simple answer to that question, and the fact is that Chelsea was in very bad shape when they played the first game in Zagreb, while Dinamo was in great shape and had a lot of luck in that game. This is nothing new when it comes to Dinamo ZG, every season the same story is repeated, they literally start furiously in all competitions and then a sharp drop in form follows. The culprit for the bad preparation of the team is the coach, and Dinamo simply has bad coaches, with the fact that the current one is one of the most incompetent ever, and if you remember how he destroyed the Croatian national football team until Dalic took over and led us all the way to the finals of the world championship. Dinamo ZG would do a lot more if they had a better professional team that knew how to prepare the players not only physically but also psychologically. Ironically, they believe that the competition was successful because they earned as much as EUR 25 million, which was, of course, the goal. As long as Dinamo ZG does not change the management structure, which is still controlled by two fugitives sentenced to prison sentences, there will be no success in terms of better results. Unfortunately, you are right. Dinamo had very good players this season and was ready for great results, but failed again. They had great capital at the beginning, the victory over Chelsea, but after that they played cowardly against teams they could have played on an equal footing, like Salzburg. A great opportunity to continue competing in the Champions League or at least the Europa League was missed, and the Dinamo management is happy about the money they earned. Lack of ambition, incompetence, lack of expertise... everything can be seen in today's Dinamo. Unfortunately, after the world championship in football, we can expect the departure of the main players and that will be the end of the story about the club's European ambitions.
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November 05, 2022, 02:49:54 PM |
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there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.
if Napoli manages to maintain their performance and also play well in every game it looks like they can win the champions league this season, of course if that happens, I think this will be history for Napoli and also Napoli can represent a club from Italy to become champions league champion this season , but keep in mind that there are several clubs that have to be beaten by Napoli, namely Manchester City, PSG, Munich and Real Madrid because they are the 4 big clubs that I think are scary this season.
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November 05, 2022, 02:58:53 PM |
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PSG are not better than Real Madrid, just more expensive. Yes, many consider PSG a title candidate just because they have the most expensive players in the world. And every year a lot of people say PSG will win the Champions League, but they lose in the play-offs regularly. It seems to me that this season, like last season, there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.
There is nothing wrong with placing PSG as one of the favorite teams in the Champions League. Star players like Lionel Messi, Neymar, Mbappe are there, not to mention other star players who are in different positions. PSG have long wanted to win their first Champions League trophy, but their hopes of winning the UCL trophy have always failed. This time PSG will try again to be the best in the highest caste League in Europe. PSG must be able to compete with other strong clubs such as Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. Galtier who is responsible for PSG performance must be able to manage the mentality of players when the opposing team scores against them. PSG players must be able to control their emotions and frustrations to maintain their game form. In previous seasons I saw PSG always experience a decline in performance when the opposing team scored a goal, they immediately lost balance when they were behind. Galtier must not allow this condition to happen again to PSG players if he wants to take PSG to the final and win their first trophy.
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November 05, 2022, 03:21:23 PM |
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Liverpool is a big name that is supposed to be among the top 5 in when it comes to position. I know Liverpool are doing more better in the Champions league but I don't think it is possible for them to win the Champions league when their are other tough teams.
It has happen for 6 seasons in a row before this, we must understand that no performance lasts forever, there will be times when Liverpool suffer a drastic decline in the standings like now. I remember, the last time Liverpool were outside the top 5 of the Premier League is the 2015-16 season But fortunately Liverpool's decline in Premier League performance did not carry over to the Champions League, they get a good position and play well in the Champions League group stage. Liverpool's success in the group stage of the Champions League because their competitors Rangers and also Ajax did not provide a competitive rivalry, making it easier for them to pass this group stage. The real test for them is in the current round, which is the round of 16. All who qualify are the best teams in their respective groups. Now they will have real competition. If they fail to improve their performance then they will be eliminated in this round easily. I'm looking forward to the draw to see who will be their opponent in the round of 16.
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November 05, 2022, 03:29:47 PM |
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there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.
if Napoli manages to maintain their performance and also play well in every game it looks like they can win the champions league this season, of course if that happens, I think this will be history for Napoli and also Napoli can represent a club from Italy to become champions league champion this season , but keep in mind that there are several clubs that have to be beaten by Napoli, namely Manchester City, PSG, Munich and Real Madrid because they are the 4 big clubs that I think are scary this season. Even to focus on Serie A, Napoli still have to make great efforts, so for me Napoli still don't have the quality to be able to win the Champions League title. Meanwhile, we know that teams like Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich from season to season always improve just to win the Champions League title. Because they haven't won the Champions League title in the last few seasons, and in fact the efforts they have put in are very large to win the Champions League title but have not yet achieved it. So, if you say Napoli will win the Champions League title this season in my opinion it is impossible, even though in football anything can still happen but still, I believe Napoli will not reach the Champions League final this season. Because even though they are good in Serie A so far, but in fact Napoli have not purely got all the wins in every match and there are still teams that are able to hold Napoli to a draw in Serie A. Therefore, it was too soon to choose Napoli as a candidate for the Champions League title, because the Champions League is a big tournament which of course every team that wants to win the Champions League title does not only rely on luck because it requires high consistency from season to season.
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November 05, 2022, 03:45:44 PM |
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there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.
if Napoli manages to maintain their performance and also play well in every game it looks like they can win the champions league this season, of course if that happens, I think this will be history for Napoli and also Napoli can represent a club from Italy to become champions league champion this season , but keep in mind that there are several clubs that have to be beaten by Napoli, namely Manchester City, PSG, Munich and Real Madrid because they are the 4 big clubs that I think are scary this season. Even to focus on Serie A, Napoli still have to make great efforts, so for me Napoli still don't have the quality to be able to win the Champions League title. Meanwhile, we know that teams like Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich from season to season always improve just to win the Champions League title. Because they haven't won the Champions League title in the last few seasons, and in fact the efforts they have put in are very large to win the Champions League title but have not yet achieved it. So, if you say Napoli will win the Champions League title this season in my opinion it is impossible, even though in football anything can still happen but still, I believe Napoli will not reach the Champions League final this season. Because even though they are good in Serie A so far, but in fact Napoli have not purely got all the wins in every match and there are still teams that are able to hold Napoli to a draw in Serie A. Therefore, it was too soon to choose Napoli as a candidate for the Champions League title, because the Champions League is a big tournament which of course every team that wants to win the Champions League title does not only rely on luck because it requires high consistency from season to season. Napoli are not yet ready to win the Champions League title. The Champions League is the biggest tournament in which the biggest clubs from all over the world participate. Napoli will have to work harder and I think Napoli will not win the Champions League title in the next three-four seasons.
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November 05, 2022, 05:32:09 PM |
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there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.
if Napoli manages to maintain their performance and also play well in every game it looks like they can win the champions league this season, of course if that happens, I think this will be history for Napoli and also Napoli can represent a club from Italy to become champions league champion this season , but keep in mind that there are several clubs that have to be beaten by Napoli, namely Manchester City, PSG, Munich and Real Madrid because they are the 4 big clubs that I think are scary this season. Even if they are able to maintain their current form but as you said the team they have to beat is a giant team, especially if they meet in the round of 16 it will be very difficult for them to beat them. The Champions League is not like Serie A and the competition here is much more competitive and the teams here are much stronger than you can imagine. I still doubt them in terms of mentality, because here it will be very influential for their game against a much stronger team.
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November 05, 2022, 05:48:23 PM |
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For me the team from Paris is the absolute favorite after following it a bit lately. Manchester City may have been the favorites at the start of the season, but Psg are playing much better and scoring goals much more easily. And pit Haaland against Mbappe, Messi and Neymar. Then City is quite short of quality, although Psg does not have de Bruyne in its team. Monday we will see more when the draw will be.
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November 05, 2022, 05:59:32 PM |
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Liverpool's success in the group stage of the Champions League because their competitors Rangers and also Ajax did not provide a competitive rivalry, making it easier for them to pass this group stage. The real test for them is in the current round, which is the round of 16. All who qualify are the best teams in their respective groups. Now they will have real competition. If they fail to improve their performance then they will be eliminated in this round easily. I'm looking forward to the draw to see who will be their opponent in the round of 16.
Ajax is understandable to be fair, because they sold players that are worth over 200+ million euros this year, from antony to martinez to haller to ryan and many others. It means that it’s understandable for them to not be as good as they normally are, I am not saying that it would be simple or something like that, it will be very difficult and they lost their manager as well, but I am sure they will recover, it’s not simple but it's Ajax and they have a system in place that makes sure that they always get some good players. God knows how many amazing players got their start in Ajax first, and then went to be a great player in Europe, they are just beast when it comes to raising new talent.
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November 05, 2022, 07:48:53 PM |
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I personally think Psg is a better team than Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a good team, we can't deny that. Psg has been excellent this year. Especially Messi is making very good contributions this year. Together with Neymar, they are very successful in the team. When Mbappe's magic feet kick in, an enormous striker trio emerges. That's why this trio is an offensive line that can be a nightmare for any team. Real Madrid eliminated them last year but I think Psg can eliminate if the same thing happens this year.
I also think that the PSG is more better then the Real Madrid. But Real Madrid is also performing well. And we can't say anything about this who will perform well. I think they both will perform well. And match can be more interesting. Because you have seen three good players at the front of PSG team you now concluded that PSG is better than Real Madrid this season. How do you make your conclusion? mbappe is not better than Vinicius this season Messi is not better than Benzema, Rodrigo and Velveders can stand for Neyma. In full team bonding Real Madrid is better than psg. Madrid is topping their league and finished first in the Champions League which was difficult for PSG to do. That is how we continue to underate Madrid every year and they keep proving us wrong. PSG are not better than Real Madrid, just more expensive. Yes, many consider PSG a title candidate just because they have the most expensive players in the world. And every year a lot of people say PSG will win the Champions League, but they lose in the play-offs regularly. It seems to me that this season, like last season, there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli. I agree, PSG have a more expensive squad but in terms of team performance Real Madrid are the better side. Many consider PSG as champions league title contenders because of the quality of the squad but I see Real Madrid as a better team to win the trophy. This season will be the same as other seasons for PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Manchester City are favourites to win the trophy.
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For me the team from Paris is the absolute favorite after following it a bit lately. Manchester City may have been the favorites at the start of the season, but Psg are playing much better and scoring goals much more easily. And pit Haaland against Mbappe, Messi and Neymar. Then City is quite short of quality, although Psg does not have de Bruyne in its team. Monday we will see more when the draw will be.
The PSG squad is now more organized and stronger than at the start of the season. At the start of the season, PSG had a lot of problems internally. But gradually Galtier managed to solve all the problems. And the important thing is that Messi is in great form. If Messi, Neymar and Mabppe play well, PSG will get good results against any team. And so I think PSG are more favorites for the title this season than City. But all have strong squads. So it is not easy for any team to win the title
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The PSG squad is now more organized and stronger than at the start of the season. At the start of the season, PSG had a lot of problems internally. But gradually Galtier managed to solve all the problems. And the important thing is that Messi is in great form. If Messi, Neymar and Mabppe play well, PSG will get good results against any team. And so I think PSG are more favorites for the title this season than City. But all have strong squads. So it is not easy for any team to win the title
So far the psg team or squad has done nothing spectacular in the champions league this season. They could not even top their group and scored most of the group game goals against the farmer team in Maccabi. It feels as though they will be knocked out in the next round
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PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.
Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.
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November 05, 2022, 08:04:24 PM |
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Manchester city 2.50
Bayern Munich 5.60
Paris Saint Germain 7.60
Liverpool 8.30
RealMadrid 9.50
Chelsea 14.10
Napoli 14.20
Tottenham Hotspur 14.90
Pretty strange bookmaker quotes. I wonder if they will change after the pairs in the 1/8 finals become known. I can understand why wretched PSG is listed slightly better than Liverpool, but how are they listed better than Real Madrid and twice as good as Napoli? City which is so much better than Bayern is also doubtful - one Haaland injury turns them into an ordinary club.
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PSG are not better than Real Madrid, just more expensive. I agree, but here's a comparison of the two teams specifically team value based by https://www.transfermarkt.com/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlZErY8S.png&t=665&c=ylLhfbW90ZzIqQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLIVlgLG.png&t=665&c=y5wElEg4ogLbYw)
Yes, many consider PSG a title candidate just because they have the most expensive players in the world. And every year a lot of people say PSG will win the Champions League, but they lose in the play-offs regularly. It seems to me that this season, like last season, there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.[/quote] I think PSG have just been unlucky in terms of the Champions League title, they have failed many seasons even after reaching the final. This season doesn't look much different either, but who knows? In fact there are many teams that could be seeded in the last 16 including PSG, so they have a chance.
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November 05, 2022, 08:12:43 PM |
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I personally think Psg is a better team than Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a good team, we can't deny that. Psg has been excellent this year. Especially Messi is making very good contributions this year. Together with Neymar, they are very successful in the team. When Mbappe's magic feet kick in, an enormous striker trio emerges. That's why this trio is an offensive line that can be a nightmare for any team. Real Madrid eliminated them last year but I think Psg can eliminate if the same thing happens this year.
I also think that the PSG is more better then the Real Madrid. But Real Madrid is also performing well. And we can't say anything about this who will perform well. I think they both will perform well. And match can be more interesting. Because you have seen three good players at the front of PSG team you now concluded that PSG is better than Real Madrid this season. How do you make your conclusion? mbappe is not better than Vinicius this season Messi is not better than Benzema, Rodrigo and Velveders can stand for Neyma. In full team bonding Real Madrid is better than psg. Madrid is topping their league and finished first in the Champions League which was difficult for PSG to do. That is how we continue to underate Madrid every year and they keep proving us wrong. In this case, in terms of names, maybe Neymar, Messi or Mbappe can be said to be more prestige because they get a lot of attention, but on the other hand, Madrid's young people are still very good in my opinion, especially this season. We know that when Benzema is not in Rodrygo's squad it can always be a good option, not to mention that their two wings Valverde or Vini always surprises especially Valverde's performance this season has shown a rapid increase because he can also be placed anywhere which can be an added value. Let's not forget that Madrid are the reigning kings this season so indeed to say PSG is much more now it's clear that many disagree, including me.
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November 05, 2022, 08:13:40 PM |
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PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.
Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.
Yes, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality. Last season when they weren't favorites and even if I'm not mistaken Real Madrid were 3-0 down by Chelsea but in the second half Real Madrid came back and it was like something impossible to happen. Because the opponent is a strong team that doesn't just rely on luck to get to that stage, but Real Madrid with all its capabilities can turn the situation around. Agree also about Manchester City and even, last season Manchester City also basically have a chance to be able to advance to the final. But again and again, Real Madrid became the team that beat Manchester City and in that way, all the big teams that Real Madrid played against last season were defeated by Real Madrid. But it looks like this season will be very different for the Real Madrid squad, although so far they are still doing well in La Liga but it looks like the hurdles in the Champions League will be getting tougher for Real Madrid.
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November 05, 2022, 08:33:08 PM |
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The PSG squad is now more organized and stronger than at the start of the season. At the start of the season, PSG had a lot of problems internally. But gradually Galtier managed to solve all the problems. And the important thing is that Messi is in great form. If Messi, Neymar and Mabppe play well, PSG will get good results against any team. And so I think PSG are more favorites for the title this season than City. But all have strong squads. So it is not easy for any team to win the title
So far the psg team or squad has done nothing spectacular in the champions league this season. They could not even top their group and scored most of the group game goals against the farmer team in Maccabi. It feels as though they will be knocked out in the next round PSG is a big candidate for the title winner this season because this season PSG have a deadly trio up front, this is what makes me believe PSG can beat their opponents in the next round. Real Madrid have a winning mentality and their squad is also very strong for this season. Bayern munich and manchester city are among the strong candidates for the title this season seeing their performance in the domestic league and in the ucl is very impressive for this season i think they will try hard to get the ucl trophy. Maybe we shouldn't forget Napoli they are group winners with a pretty good performance so far.
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PSG is a big candidate for the title winner this season because this season PSG have a deadly trio up front, this is what makes me believe PSG can beat their opponents in the next round. Real Madrid have a winning mentality and their squad is also very strong for this season. Bayern munich and manchester city are among the strong candidates for the title this season seeing their performance in the domestic league and in the ucl is very impressive for this season i think they will try hard to get the ucl trophy. Maybe we shouldn't forget Napoli they are group winners with a pretty good performance so far.
I'm still not too sure about that, especially in the last 16 there is a possibility that they will face a Big Match considering that they have to be in second place in the group phase so it is very likely that they will do the same Big Match in this phase as last season. In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
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