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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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December 05, 2022, 01:11:26 PM
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I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
I'm not sure if this story is true because if Tuchel actually did something like this it will be serious issue that will be heard in all corners but this stories sounds like a rumor,  if this led to the sack of tuchel I don't think chelsea won't let it  know to the public and fans. The reason tuchel was sacked is because chelsea was not performing very well.
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December 05, 2022, 01:14:03 PM
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
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December 05, 2022, 01:45:43 PM
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I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
I'm not sure if this story is true because if Tuchel actually did something like this it will be serious issue that will be heard in all corners but this stories sounds like a rumor,  if this led to the sack of tuchel I don't think chelsea won't let it  know to the public and fans. The reason tuchel was sacked is because chelsea was not performing very well.
True, so far I have not heard that Thomas Tuchel did anything that is talked about here. Even if that was the reason, it would be a big mistake for Chelsea to make it public. Because after all it is an internal matter between the Thomas Tuchel family and I don't think Chelsea has the right to speak out about that.
From the start, the reason for Chelsea's dismissal of Thomas Tuchel was because their game was far from satisfactory.

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December 05, 2022, 02:00:32 PM
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I want to ask, what do you think. which new coach is suitable for Chelsea, who was able to bring Cheslea to win the Premier League trophy as well as the Champions League in his first season as a coach, with the players available, plus several injuries, and others underperformed.

I think the answer is simple for this. The right manager for Chelsea has always been Thomas Tuchel. Just because of not meeting some criteria of the board Tuchel was sacked. It wasn't for only the bad start to the season in fact. You can't expect any manager to be too consistent every time in the end. Tuchel achieved great successes with Chelsea as you said. He had a bad start in this one maybe but he could have made things right for the team if he was given a little more time. The fans must also be unhappy about this change now.

Tuchel's situation was similar to Klopp. Klopp is also facing bad times with Liverpool in the league this season despite playing solidly in the Champions League. But Liverpool board must be trusting him fully for the sake of his great achievements with the team so far.

My question is a coach other than Thomas Tuchel, who deserves to replace Potter. and you have answered yourself, that Chelsea's current situation and condition is unfavorable with the underperforming performance of its players, plus injured players and that's why Chelsea's performance declined which in the end Tuchel was fired regardless of the club's internal polemic behind it.

like you said, we can't expect any manager to be consistent all the time. even Tuchel himself had a bad season, and you say Tuchel can improve things and it takes time to fix it. So, especially for a new coach. at least, Potter also needs time to be able to recover the performance of his new troop, he needs chemistry with his players, he also needs some experimentation with the available players. so don't expect Chelsea to instantly perform great again with injured players and others underperforming. at least, let's give him time and appreciate the effort to rebuild Chelsea.

even if Potter failed to lead Chelsea to a top four finish, he would be sacked. for Tuchel, he is the past of Chelsea. maybe in the next season, he will coach a new club. in Jurrgen Klopp's case, if he is unable to lead Liverpool to a top-four Premier League finish. it is likely that his career will end, unless Klopp is able to bring the Champions League Trophy to Anfield, Liverpool headquarters.

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December 05, 2022, 04:34:11 PM
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

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December 05, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

The heads of Chelsea are currently backing Potter
They feel he has enough time to turn Those game's around
But Chelsea seem like a club that will loss to Dortmund

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December 05, 2022, 05:57:39 PM
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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result.  Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.
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December 05, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
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The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
Graham Potter become Chelsea manager when Primer League running few weeks not problem yet because Chelsea have completed squad with star player, but first time become Chelsea manager on September 9, Graham Potter still make Chelsea in underperformance condition right now. Comparison with experienced have by Graham Potter I think there are still have many favorite manager who have more experienced than him.

Still not closed yet with Graham Potter chance bring back Chelsea success at Champion League this season, actually 16 round drawing most lucky with Dortmund opponent seems not really difficult and I think Chelsea have large opportunity lead to next round.

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December 05, 2022, 06:20:14 PM
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Graham Potter become Chelsea manager when Primer League running few weeks not problem yet because Chelsea have completed squad with star player, but first time become Chelsea manager on September 9, Graham Potter still make Chelsea in underperformance condition right now. Comparison with experienced have by Graham Potter I think there are still have many favorite manager who have more experienced than him.

Still not closed yet with Graham Potter chance bring back Chelsea success at Champion League this season, actually 16 round drawing most lucky with Dortmund opponent seems not really difficult and I think Chelsea have large opportunity lead to next round.


Sorry at this time if Chelsea's performance looks unstable, it is clear that Dortmund has plus points because they have played consistently. And if Chelsea still can't determine which direction in terms of management, whether players or coaches are not fully supported, then Dortmund will easily make Chelsea falter later after this break is over.

Therefore, Chelsea still has time to fix all the internal and external gaps that occur. Chelsea is currently in a fairly indecisive condition.

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December 05, 2022, 07:05:37 PM
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Sorry at this time if Chelsea's performance looks unstable, it is clear that Dortmund has plus points because they have played consistently. And if Chelsea still can't determine which direction in terms of management, whether players or coaches are not fully supported, then Dortmund will easily make Chelsea falter later after this break is over.

Therefore, Chelsea still has time to fix all the internal and external gaps that occur. Chelsea is currently in a fairly indecisive condition.

Graham Potter did great at the start of his managerian role in Chelsea but things have gone sour since then. Both the fans and The Chelsea hierarchy are losing patience. The Chelsea team has an advantage to return early to league match than Dortmund. Although it's  disadvantage because of lack of rest which might cause fatigue at the long run.

Dortmund also aren't doing quite well. They are losing some kinda of matches they aren't supposed to lose. They are currently languishing at 6 position on the bundesliga table. With teams like union Berlin, Freiburg ahead of them.

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December 05, 2022, 09:36:37 PM
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Sacking Thomas Tuchel by the club and employing Graham Potter was for a reason and I believe if the reason for employing a new coach which I believe is to restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency and winning games so I wouldn't blame the fans if they begin to panic and ask questions or doubt Potter's capabilities because he was employed to improve the team and win games so if he is not doing so then it surely will raise doubts.
To restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency of winning games?, and Where are those facts since he was sacked ?, Whatever story that may have caused the sacking, I think that was a wrong decision by the owner and the entire Chelsea management board.

They Forgot that in live there ups and down times and same is applicable to coaching, I never sided the sack of Thomas Tuchel one day, that issues should have been resolved with the team or the management of Chelsea and with time everything would move back smoothly for the club entirely.

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December 05, 2022, 10:08:11 PM
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Sacking Thomas Tuchel by the club and employing Graham Potter was for a reason and I believe if the reason for employing a new coach which I believe is to restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency and winning games so I wouldn't blame the fans if they begin to panic and ask questions or doubt Potter's capabilities because he was employed to improve the team and win games so if he is not doing so then it surely will raise doubts.
To restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency of winning games?, and Where are those facts since he was sacked ?, Whatever story that may have caused the sacking, I think that was a wrong decision by the owner and the entire Chelsea management board.

They Forgot that in live there ups and down times and same is applicable to coaching, I never sided the sack of Thomas Tuchel one day, that issues should have been resolved with the team or the management of Chelsea and with time everything would move back smoothly for the club entirely.
Chelsea have now become worst than be, I'm sure  the management of Chelsea  never expected the team to be this way. Tuchel is a better coach , well experienced than Graham.  I'm still wondering where can Graham drive Chelsea to, I can see it is a bit difficult for him.

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December 05, 2022, 10:34:07 PM
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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result.  Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.
I know that it did not take Graham Potter unaware for him to sign for Chelsea. everyone in the land of football including Chelsea themselves knows  how unfaithful Chelsea Football Club used to be with their coaches.
Everyone knows how they criticize their coach even if he wins five matches, draws two and lose one.
Since he knows all this and still decides to sign for Chelsea he has a plan as he has decided to take the risk to push his career in Chelsea.

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December 05, 2022, 10:38:50 PM
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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result.  Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.
All of decision will be on todd's hand. Todd is the main reason why tuchel got sacked easily. I think that chelsea management will not be sacking the coach like that and give him another chance but that's different with todd caused by todd was thinking if he was playing a foot ball manager game. That being said that if the result from chelsea was so bad caused by it needs the transition. There are rumours about potter will be sacked again but i hope if that will not true at all.
Chelsea needs to slowly rebuild its team again. it needs more time to make it happen. Todd must not become an impatience owner.

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December 05, 2022, 10:42:18 PM
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Chelsea have now become worst than be, I'm sure  the management of Chelsea  never expected the team to be this way. Tuchel is a better coach , well experienced than Graham.  I'm still wondering where can Graham drive Chelsea to, I can see it is a bit difficult for him.
Mereka butuh perombakan besar baik di timnya dan juga manajemen. Potter is actually a professional football coach, but here, this seems like he cannot do his best because of many problems inside. Chelsea had a serious problem previously. And now, they are struggling to reach better competitors, but can not. Even Potter was an excellent coach in Brighton, but they cannot make Chelsea much better. Actually, Chelsea exactly needs some replacements for their squads, moreover their defenders, this is the worst. But their midfielders and also attacking lines are also not as strong as others, they are ordinary. So, I think that Chelsea really needs stronger squads again to manage their team much better again.  

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December 05, 2022, 10:55:47 PM
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The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

The heads of Chelsea are currently backing Potter
They feel he has enough time to turn Those game's around
But Chelsea seem like a club that will loss to Dortmund
leg 1 (UCL) between chelsea vs dortmund will take place at home to dortmund so that dortmund is more favorite to win this match, Besides that, Chelsea's performance was very bad, Potter was still not able to make Chelsea a strong team

Chelsea's defense is very bad, if Potter strengthens their defense then there is a chance that Chelsea will win against Dortmund, we'll see maybe there will be a defender bought by Chelsea in the transfer market next year

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December 05, 2022, 11:49:53 PM
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The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

The heads of Chelsea are currently backing Potter
They feel he has enough time to turn Those game's around
But Chelsea seem like a club that will loss to Dortmund
leg 1 (UCL) between chelsea vs dortmund will take place at home to dortmund so that dortmund is more favorite to win this match, Besides that, Chelsea's performance was very bad, Potter was still not able to make Chelsea a strong team

Chelsea's defense is very bad, if Potter strengthens their defense then there is a chance that Chelsea will win against Dortmund, we'll see maybe there will be a defender bought by Chelsea in the transfer market next year


This is a golden chance for Dortmund to make a big match and try to win against Chelsea in signal iduna park, a win that can make their way to the next stage easier

Chelsea team is not a very strong oppenet and they are really having bad days and that's what make me think they can lose this match, my bet will be double chance for Dortmund

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December 06, 2022, 03:32:16 AM
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The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
The heads of Chelsea are currently backing Potter
They feel he has enough time to turn Those game's around
But Chelsea seem like a club that will loss to Dortmund
leg 1 (UCL) between chelsea vs dortmund will take place at home to dortmund so that dortmund is more favorite to win this match, Besides that, Chelsea's performance was very bad, Potter was still not able to make Chelsea a strong team
Chelsea's defense is very bad, if Potter strengthens their defense then there is a chance that Chelsea will win against Dortmund, we'll see maybe there will be a defender bought by Chelsea in the transfer market next year
This is a golden chance for Dortmund to make a big match and try to win against Chelsea in signal iduna park, a win that can make their way to the next stage easier

Chelsea team is not a very strong oppenet and they are really having bad days and that's what make me think they can lose this match, my bet will be double chance for Dortmund

The situation of the Chesley team is now very weak. They are not playing well. They are consistently dropping points against weaker teams.
But don't forget the Champions League match will be held on February 16. There is plenty of time for the Chelsea coach to stabilize his squad. Chelsea will likely play 10 more matches before facing Dortmund. And so we cannot say for sure that Chesley will be behind against Dortmund.
Now the whole thing will depend on Chelsea coach Graham Potter. If he is able to solve the problems within the team, Chesley will play well in the Champions League, they will lose badly against the new Dortmund.

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December 06, 2022, 06:09:10 AM
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
Chelsea is similar such as Manchester United that their management can provide huge money to the coaches but they seems have no patience to the process and wants the trophies and it proven that from the last 10 years Chelsea has been changed manager 7 times so Potters also has in the hot seat that if he can not able bringing Chelsea to gets the trophies in the near future i think not impossible to the management to sacked him and for Premier League Chelsea might be have no chances considering Manchester City and Arsenal are too consistent and almost be impossible to chasing them but in champion league although it's hard but Chelsea still have opportunities to gets the trophy and first step is Chelsea should be able to beat Dortmund and qualified to quarterfinal along with Potters

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December 06, 2022, 06:43:07 AM
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This is a golden chance for Dortmund to make a big match and try to win against Chelsea in signal iduna park, a win that can make their way to the next stage easier

Chelsea team is not a very strong oppenet and they are really having bad days and that's what make me think they can lose this match, my bet will be double chance for Dortmund

Chelsea was in the worst form for now. It can be seen from the last three matches in EPL. no goal already made by chelsea. The new owner has been degrading the team into the worst team. That impatience owner called todd boehly has been changing the team become a broken team.
Chelsea needs more time to build the squad again. Some defenders already targeted by some big clubs. I don't know what's gonna happen when the veteran like thiago silva and azpilicueta will be gone from chelsea.
That will make the team can lose lots of goal in any match. This is my main concern about chelsea.

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