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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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November 16, 2022, 10:23:33 AM
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I also wouldn't bet on the match between Dortmund and Chelsea, although I personally have more confidence that Chelsea can win the match even if it takes place at home to Dortmund. Besides the match is still very long, both teams will clearly prepare their players and arrange the best strategy possible to be able to win the match in the round of 16. Because usually in the Champions League each team will be more focused and put all their efforts into winning the game.

I would say that these are equal teams, but there is still a lot of time before the match, and it is better to analyze it a few weeks before the start of the match. Many team leaders will go to the World Championships now and it will be a difficult month for them, after which they will need to recover, so this time everything will be different and it makes no sense to make long-term forecasts.
You're correct Let's wait till after the world cup to make any long-term predictions for this encounter between Chelsea and Dormud because, as we all know, more Chelsea players are on the world team than Dortmund players. That has given Dormud the advantage to unwind and get ready more so than Chelsea. The world cup game will result in numerous player injuries, which will impair their performance in UEFA. When the game resumes, I am confident that Dortmund will defeat Chelsea in the knockout round.


Chelsea's team already lacks motivation and confidence. Dortmund, on the other side, has excelled during the group stage.
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November 16, 2022, 10:36:30 AM
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That game between PSG and Bayern could be a final match or a semifinal one. It is unfortunate to see it that early and it is damn hard to know which team will win and pass to the next stage!
Bayern is a very solid team and whenever they are fit they can humiliate every team they face regardless of their ability like the 8 goals vs Barcelona. Nevertheless they have weak moments where they play badly. PSG needs to win UCL even once, they have one of the most powerful line-up since years and it is like we win that title this season or never again!
I cannot decide which team to back, even the result of the first leg cannot be helpful imo.

It would be nice if your words about "this season or never again" turned out to be true. Because City are in the same position and if one of these oil clubs is left out of the Champions League title holders I will be very happy. In general, I do not expect surprises in the Bayern-PSG pairing, I hope both clubs will be in optimal shape and then Bayern should win confidently. It will be worse if Bayern has some kind of failure.

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November 16, 2022, 10:54:33 AM
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That game between PSG and Bayern could be a final match or a semifinal one. It is unfortunate to see it that early and it is damn hard to know which team will win and pass to the next stage!
Bayern is a very solid team and whenever they are fit they can humiliate every team they face regardless of their ability like the 8 goals vs Barcelona. Nevertheless they have weak moments where they play badly. PSG needs to win UCL even once, they have one of the most powerful line-up since years and it is like we win that title this season or never again!
I cannot decide which team to back, even the result of the first leg cannot be helpful imo.

It would be nice if your words about "this season or never again" turned out to be true. Because City are in the same position and if one of these oil clubs is left out of the Champions League title holders I will be very happy. In general, I do not expect surprises in the Bayern-PSG pairing, I hope both clubs will be in optimal shape and then Bayern should win confidently. It will be worse if Bayern has some kind of failure.
PSG and Bayern are now in an interesting situation. Both clubs have the same number of wins in their head-to-head encounters. But I remember how well PSG played in the quarterfinals last year. Back then too, many thought that Bayern would win without any problems, but PSG gave a fight. This year the teams are playing equally well and it is hard to say who will win, but I think PSG look better now.

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November 16, 2022, 11:18:53 AM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
I also wouldn't bet on the match between Dortmund and Chelsea, although I personally have more confidence that Chelsea can win the match even if it takes place at home to Dortmund. Besides the match is still very long, both teams will clearly prepare their players and arrange the best strategy possible to be able to win the match in the round of 16. Because usually in the Champions League each team will be more focused and put all their efforts into winning the game.

I would say that Chelsea is superior to Dortmund, Chelsea is more profitable in terms of player depth. it's just that, Chelsea cannot be said that this team has found its rhythm. Graham Potter still needs time to form his squad even stronger, especially for the sharpness of the forward players they have. the strategies and tactics used by Potter still have many shortcomings, the bonding between players and coaches doesn't look very solid. Of course, he's the new coach. so still need more solid chemistry again.

On the other hand, the advantage of Dortmund vs Chelsea is, in the first leg they played as the home team.
However, Chelsea is not an easy opponent for them to beat. these two teams benefited from the world cup break, both Potter and Edin Terzic will prepare their troops for the round of 16 match later.

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November 16, 2022, 11:44:48 AM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
I also wouldn't bet on the match between Dortmund and Chelsea, although I personally have more confidence that Chelsea can win the match even if it takes place at home to Dortmund. Besides the match is still very long, both teams will clearly prepare their players and arrange the best strategy possible to be able to win the match in the round of 16. Because usually in the Champions League each team will be more focused and put all their efforts into winning the game.

I would say that Chelsea is superior to Dortmund, Chelsea is more profitable in terms of player depth. it's just that, Chelsea cannot be said that this team has found its rhythm. Graham Potter still needs time to form his squad even stronger, especially for the sharpness of the forward players they have. the strategies and tactics used by Potter still have many shortcomings, the bonding between players and coaches doesn't look very solid. Of course, he's the new coach. so still need more solid chemistry again.

On the other hand, the advantage of Dortmund vs Chelsea is, in the first leg they played as the home team.
However, Chelsea is not an easy opponent for them to beat. these two teams benefited from the world cup break, both Potter and Edin Terzic will prepare their troops for the round of 16 match later.

We know what Dortmund is able to do when they are in shape and have a good day. I mean look at the games against Manchester City, did you ever have the feeling during those games that Manchester City has an advantage over them such that they could destroy Dortmund? Yes every now and then Manchester City has a brilliant moment because you can never fully stop such a team, but in total Dortmund was quite as strong as Man City during both group stage games. If they can compete with Manchester City, why wouldn't they be able to compete with Chelsea especially when Chelsea has no confidence and is going through a hard time? In these games Dortmund has also less to lose than Chelsea. The pressure is on Chelsea here.

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November 16, 2022, 12:34:53 PM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
I also wouldn't bet on the match between Dortmund and Chelsea, although I personally have more confidence that Chelsea can win the match even if it takes place at home to Dortmund. Besides the match is still very long, both teams will clearly prepare their players and arrange the best strategy possible to be able to win the match in the round of 16. Because usually in the Champions League each team will be more focused and put all their efforts into winning the game.
Chelsea can find it difficult when it comes to facing teams from Germany, I saw the head to head of these two teams where in the last 5 meetings these two teams have collected the same results, namely winning 2x, losing 2x and 1x drawing. So I feel that the meeting between the two will be a match that is difficult to predict in the first leg of the top 16 later. but I see that the first leg will be won by Dortmund with a thin score but it could be that it will take hard work for from Dortmund to be able to beat Chelsea. Graham potter was able to make Chelsea perform well in the champions league this season and  and that's one thing difficulty for dortmund in the first leg meeting later.

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November 16, 2022, 01:17:30 PM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
Both are strong teams but these team have the same problems. The consistently on their performance have always become big questions. The most difficult match to predict just like the match between dortmund against chelsea. it's caused by both have very bad performance but the good thing is dortmund has better result as it was only loosing in the last two matches in the bundesliga unlike chelsea which has been facing more lose and draws. The consistently from chelsea has become a big question rather than dortmund. Bundesliga may much more easier compared with EPL but in this match dortmund was also equal with chelsea. i think that chelsea can't win against dortmund.

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November 16, 2022, 01:18:17 PM
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That game between PSG and Bayern could be a final match or a semifinal one. It is unfortunate to see it that early and it is damn hard to know which team will win and pass to the next stage!
Bayern is a very solid team and whenever they are fit they can humiliate every team they face regardless of their ability like the 8 goals vs Barcelona. Nevertheless they have weak moments where they play badly. PSG needs to win UCL even once, they have one of the most powerful line-up since years and it is like we win that title this season or never again!
I cannot decide which team to back, even the result of the first leg cannot be helpful imo.

It would be nice if your words about "this season or never again" turned out to be true. Because City are in the same position and if one of these oil clubs is left out of the Champions League title holders I will be very happy. In general, I do not expect surprises in the Bayern-PSG pairing, I hope both clubs will be in optimal shape and then Bayern should win confidently. It will be worse if Bayern has some kind of failure.
One of the teams that has a very strong line-up for several seasons does not make it easy for them to win 1 Champions League title. Teams that have star players indeed make expectations even higher, but all of that does not guarantee achievement for the team. I prefer a team that doesn't have many star players but can display good teamwork, in fact too many star players actually make the team unhealthy, there are always disputes between the players which can be detrimental to the team.

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November 16, 2022, 01:34:18 PM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
Both are strong teams but these team have the same problems. The consistently on their performance have always become big questions. The most difficult match to predict just like the match between dortmund against chelsea. it's caused by both have very bad performance but the good thing is dortmund has better result as it was only loosing in the last two matches in the bundesliga unlike chelsea which has been facing more lose and draws. The consistently from chelsea has become a big question rather than dortmund. Bundesliga may much more easier compared with EPL but in this match dortmund was also equal with chelsea. i think that chelsea can't win against dortmund.

Lol, Chelsea and Dortmund this season is a bad season for them, if we refer to their performance in their respective leagues then of course they are experiencing a very severe decline in performance.
So, in this Dortmund v Chelsea match, I personally will still choose Dortmund to win, because Chelsea did not have a good performance against the top teams in the Premier League and Chelsea are in a mess at this moment.

But about Dortmund, at least they can still look better because they are still in the top six in the Bundesliga and because of that, I personally am still quite confident that Dortmund will have a better chance to win.
Well, that assessment refers to their performance in their respective leagues.

But if I have to make a choice not based on their performance in their respective leagues. I think I'm going to go with Chelsea because usually, when the big teams do poorly in the local league then their chances are better to play in European events.
This is a consideration for me personally, because considering the situation of the two teams this season is experiencing a decline.

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November 16, 2022, 01:35:43 PM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
Both are strong teams but these team have the same problems. The consistently on their performance have always become big questions. The most difficult match to predict just like the match between dortmund against chelsea. it's caused by both have very bad performance but the good thing is dortmund has better result as it was only loosing in the last two matches in the bundesliga unlike chelsea which has been facing more lose and draws. The consistently from chelsea has become a big question rather than dortmund. Bundesliga may much more easier compared with EPL but in this match dortmund was also equal with chelsea. i think that chelsea can't win against dortmund.

Chelsea still has enough room for improvement so far until the next meeting with Borrussia Dortmund.
Dortmund are good attacking side's and same goes to the Blue's Chelsea who can still defend very well with Thiago Silva at the base of the defense doing calculative defending for the club. Not a Chelsea fan but I feel they have the capabilities of winning over German side Borrussia Dortmund.

We'll possibly see, Ben Chiwell and Recce James back from injuries, so if they both are used as fullbacks to join the midfielder's and attackers will make sense as they will give and launch some disturbing attack's to Dortmund with a Three man defense of Thiago Silva, Koullibaly and Co brought into the club by Thomas Tuchel. Still don't know how the attack should be but let's see, Jorginho and Kovacic in midfied and then Mason mount,  with Aubameyang and Borja leading the attack, they need goals in that game.

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November 16, 2022, 01:42:23 PM
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I think Dortmund and Chelsea are both strong teams. But the problem is that their performance is not consistent. They perform well against strong teams, but also lose against weak teams. And it is difficult to make predictions about the performance of irregular teams. Dortmund vs Chelsea match can have any result. Both teams have equal chances. So I will refrain from betting on this match.
Both are strong teams but these team have the same problems. The consistently on their performance have always become big questions. The most difficult match to predict just like the match between dortmund against chelsea. it's caused by both have very bad performance but the good thing is dortmund has better result as it was only loosing in the last two matches in the bundesliga unlike chelsea which has been facing more lose and draws. The consistently from chelsea has become a big question rather than dortmund. Bundesliga may much more easier compared with EPL but in this match dortmund was also equal with chelsea. i think that chelsea can't win against dortmund.

Chelsea still has enough room for improvement so far until the next meeting with Borrussia Dortmund.
Dortmund are good attacking side's and same goes to the Blue's Chelsea who can still defend very well with Thiago Silva at the base of the defense doing calculative defending for the club. Not a Chelsea fan but I feel they have the capabilities of winning over German side Borrussia Dortmund.

We'll possibly see, Ben Chiwell and Recce James back from injuries, so if they both are used as fullbacks to join the midfielder's and attackers will make sense as they will give and launch some disturbing attack's to Dortmund with a Three man defense of Thiago Silva, Koullibaly and Co brought into the club by Thomas Tuchel. Still don't know how the attack should be but let's see, Jorginho and Kovacic in midfied and then Mason mount,  with Aubameyang and Borja leading the attack, they need goals in that game.
You're right, Chelsea still have some time to bounce back. Chelsea is undoubtedly a good team but not all teams have good performances all the time. Maybe that's exactly what Chelsea are doing right now. But hopefully Chelsea will return to form very soon. And will play well against Dortmund.

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November 16, 2022, 01:51:22 PM
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Before the closure of games just to kick off for the world cup games starting in Sunday morning German side Borrussia Dortmund has lost twice which saw them puting that form in a absurded position also missing out on Reus again one if Dortmund most important and loyalist to injury missing a big international chance for the fourth time. Chelsea will use this game to bounce back up I am just hoping most of our players doesn't come back injured
I don't think so. Look at the how worst the match history from chelsea compared with dortmund. 5 games 2 draws and 3 loses. That proves if chelsea was in the worst form right now. Dortmund has a better match history compared with chelsea. I think that when you consider the performance from player in the world cup still not comparable with once they played for their team. dortmund and chelsea have almost the same matches history. A bit difficult to predict which one from both that will be winning.
I think that the most difficult match is to predicting the match like this rather than a big club that against a club that has bad performance compared with it but the history proves chelsea has a strong mentalism over dortmund.
It can be seen from how chelsea was always passing last 16 easily without any doubt. Im taking chelsea for now.

I think that players are not going to care about injuries when they’re playing for the national team in the World Cup. How many times we have seen players coming back with an injury from the World Cup? And obviously, players are going to give much more importance to the World Cup instead to club football.

Right now, neither Chelsea nor Dortmund’s playing well. So, it will be detrimental for them if any of the layers pick up an injury in the World Cup.

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One of the teams that has a very strong line-up for several seasons does not make it easy for them to win 1 Champions League title. Teams that have star players indeed make expectations even higher, but all of that does not guarantee achievement for the team. I prefer a team that doesn't have many star players but can display good teamwork, in fact too many star players actually make the team unhealthy, there are always disputes between the players which can be detrimental to the team.
The success and failure of a team to win the Champions League trophy is not due to having many star players in their squad. I prefer to say a team that wins a trophy is a team that is able to work together well and don't panic easily when their position is under pressure.

PSG and Manchester City have always been on the list of favourites, but in reality these two teams have yet to win the UCL title.
The weakness of PSG and Manchester City is not that there are many star players in their squad, but that they are unable to control their emotions when they are in a pressured position, which makes their entire plan fall apart.

When they won the UCL trophy, almost the entire Real Madrid squad was filled with star players, from goalkeepers to strikers. So to become a champion, it is not only necessary to have the strength of a team, the mentality and enthusiasm of the players are also a factor in the success of a team.

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November 16, 2022, 02:32:03 PM
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I think that players are not going to care about injuries when they’re playing for the national team in the World Cup. How many times we have seen players coming back with an injury from the World Cup? And obviously, players are going to give much more importance to the World Cup instead to club football.

Right now, neither Chelsea nor Dortmund’s playing well. So, it will be detrimental for them if any of the layers pick up an injury in the World Cup.
No one knows about the arrival of injuries to players, so they deserve to play optimally when defending their country in the World Cup later. No player wants them injured, I think you are wrong in saying they don't care about injuries. All football players don't want that because it will make a decline in their career. Maybe the reason you say that is because it involves them playing for their country, but still, this is something that they will definitely anticipate.

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November 16, 2022, 03:11:33 PM
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Both are strong teams but these team have the same problems. The consistently on their performance have always become big questions. The most difficult match to predict just like the match between dortmund against chelsea. it's caused by both have very bad performance but the good thing is dortmund has better result as it was only loosing in the last two matches in the bundesliga unlike chelsea which has been facing more lose and draws. The consistently from chelsea has become a big question rather than dortmund. Bundesliga may much more easier compared with EPL but in this match dortmund was also equal with chelsea. i think that chelsea can't win against dortmund.

My opinions about Dortmund and Chelsea are like:

Dortmund just don't care about winning even the Bundesliga title. As a result they aren't a very assertive team in the Champions League as well. Maybe you will say that Dortmund have played a finale in the Champions League against Bayern Munich before. But it was so many years ago. Now Dortmund are just a team that focus on scouting young talents, bringing them here and developing them later on. Most probably these players are bought by another big team and Dortmund continue to make a lot of money like this. But they just don't put winning championships to the first place in their target list.

About Chelsea, I can say that they are normally a very dangerous team in the Champions League. There was even a season that they became the champions while not so many people were expecting them to make it. They have a good history in this tournament as well. Their problem is management now. If they are managed properly then they will start being a big threat to the biggest title contenders again.

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November 16, 2022, 03:28:58 PM
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Both are strong teams but these team have the same problems. The consistently on their performance have always become big questions. The most difficult match to predict just like the match between dortmund against chelsea. it's caused by both have very bad performance but the good thing is dortmund has better result as it was only loosing in the last two matches in the bundesliga unlike chelsea which has been facing more lose and draws. The consistently from chelsea has become a big question rather than dortmund. Bundesliga may much more easier compared with EPL but in this match dortmund was also equal with chelsea. i think that chelsea can't win against dortmund.
Without active on next window transfer I think both team between Chelsea and Dortmund are in the poor performance right now, have lucky for postponed match with international break out seems Chelsea and Dortmund have enough time take recovery and back to the top performance. Chelsea's appearance this season has been very tragic, since Graham Potter replaced Thomas Tuchel so far he has not been able to provide the best performance for Chelsea.

Dortmund are also in poor performance at the moment, two consecutive defeats in the Bundesliga have knocked them out of top fourth standing, likely match Chelsea vs Dortmund not as big match depending both team standing on domestic league.

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November 16, 2022, 04:40:41 PM
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That game between PSG and Bayern could be a final match or a semifinal one. It is unfortunate to see it that early and it is damn hard to know which team will win and pass to the next stage!
Bayern is a very solid team and whenever they are fit they can humiliate every team they face regardless of their ability like the 8 goals vs Barcelona. Nevertheless they have weak moments where they play badly. PSG needs to win UCL even once, they have one of the most powerful line-up since years and it is like we win that title this season or never again!
I cannot decide which team to back, even the result of the first leg cannot be helpful imo.

It would be nice if your words about "this season or never again" turned out to be true. Because City are in the same position and if one of these oil clubs is left out of the Champions League title holders I will be very happy. In general, I do not expect surprises in the Bayern-PSG pairing, I hope both clubs will be in optimal shape and then Bayern should win confidently. It will be worse if Bayern has some kind of failure.

City this time is having a lot of luck in the champions league, and see that their next game is against Leipzig which I think is not an opponent that city cannot win, I hope that city does not make the same mistake as it did in the last one Premier League game in which he lost even playing with his best players, the City coach has to manage his players well because in the Premier League they have a strong opponent who is at the top and on the other side has the ambition of years to conquer the league champions, however for city may have a good chance of winning the champions league this season

Dortmund are also in poor performance at the moment, two consecutive defeats in the Bundesliga have knocked them out of top fourth standing, likely match Chelsea vs Dortmund not as big match depending both team standing on domestic league.

i stopped betting on these two teams, and for this game i think there is no favorite team, both teams are bad, but there is something chelsea can do: if chelsea can sign good players in time then they can have better chances to win this game, but lately chelsea has been a disaster even for signing players, something very sad. as for dortmond they are unstable, they can play badly today and the next day they play very well

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November 16, 2022, 05:06:32 PM
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You're right, Chelsea still have some time to bounce back. Chelsea is undoubtedly a good team but not all teams have good performances all the time. Maybe that's exactly what Chelsea are doing right now. But hopefully Chelsea will return to form very soon. And will play well against Dortmund.

They can make the best use of the winter transfer market to strengthen the squad. With a long time lag before the Champions League returns, they can use it to evaluate their current weaknesses. Now their defense and attack are in the spotlight, because they made a lot of mistakes there.
Likewise with their opponent Borussia Dortmund who are currently experiencing a downturn, although not as severe as the decline from Chelsea, it remains a fundamental problem that they must immediately fix. The meeting of 2 big teams from 2 different countries should present an interesting match to watch.

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November 16, 2022, 05:28:21 PM
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So, in this Dortmund v Chelsea match, I personally will still choose Dortmund to win, because Chelsea did not have a good performance against the top teams in the Premier League and Chelsea are in a mess at this moment.

Is Dortmund among the top teams in the premier league or even playing in the premier league for you to use that as a based for judgement. The premier league and champions league are too different tournament that has its own atmosphere. Don't you forget Chelsea has been impressive in the champions league this season after starting very poorly. Nobody believe Chelsea could progress to the knockout stages after how poorly they started but teams that people thought will be in the knockout stages are out already while Chelsea still has a chance to progress more in the tournament as they couldn't have asked for a more fair opponent than Dortmund.

Dortmund might be the better team now but lets wait to see what happens after the world cup, Chelsea cannot keep playing as poorly as they were and that's a fact, the Chelsea side is always known for improving their style of play whenever a new manager is appointed. Potter will get the team working again as he gets to know the players better. We just have to be patient with him and not forget he hasn't had time to get to know his players.

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November 16, 2022, 05:38:33 PM
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You're right, Chelsea still have some time to bounce back. Chelsea is undoubtedly a good team but not all teams have good performances all the time. Maybe that's exactly what Chelsea are doing right now. But hopefully Chelsea will return to form very soon. And will play well against Dortmund.
Dortmund are very well-balanced opponents for Chelsea this season and as it is all about staying in the Champions League both will try to play better and will try to make more serious attacks in order to score more goals. I think when the second match starts, it will be a very fierce match and also more enjoyable to watch. But for the time being everyone will have to watch the players in the league return to their respective countries to play in the world cup before returning to their respective leagues in teams.

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