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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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November 17, 2022, 04:53:49 PM
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They may not have been favorites once in the years Real Madrid won the CL. I think other teams were rated higher. But bookmaker odds can change quickly. I remember Bayern Munich started the group stage and the odds were around 10.0 to win the tournament. After 3 matches in the group, they were suddenly the favorites to win the tournament, and finally they also won the final against PSG, which now seems to have the best papers. PSG's draw does not help for the next round. It is a nice poster, but Bayern could really miss Lewandowsky in this double encounter.

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November 17, 2022, 05:01:15 PM
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Both teams Brussia Dutmornd and Chelsea are playing in different leagues , so despite their current performance and position in their various leagues sometimes it doesn't really matter that much, and too this is champions league when both teams meet with each other,  a team that is even down in their league table could win a team that is toping the table in the other league, Therefore whomever team that will win, will win regardless of where they are in their league.

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November 17, 2022, 05:06:29 PM
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if we look at the performance of the two teams since the start of the season, both of them have been inconsistent, Dortmund, which is the same as last season, which did not develop rapidly, they have not been able to be consistent, while Chelsea have not been able to be consistent after changing coaches.
However, the Chelsea team itself really has the opportunity to be consistent after the world cup this season. Because the Chelsea coach will definitely see and evaluate the deficiencies that still exist in his team when he returns to competing in the Champions League. Because the Champions League is a competition that every team takes seriously and will continue to make efforts to be able to play as well as possible.
Seeing Chelsea current state, I'm a little pessimistic that they can go far in the Champions League this season, especially when they face Dortmund, maybe in terms of the current performance of the two teams, it's not too different but I think Dortmund is still a bit better than chelsea, but in any case the situation can change especially the two teams still have a long schedule of matches so the two coaches still have time to prepare their teams perfectly, let's see what will happen later but what is certain is the team that can win the first leg will certainly have a greater advantage pass to the next round.

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November 17, 2022, 05:08:45 PM
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I hope no one forgets or underestimates Benfica, because Benfica is also one of the unbeaten teams in the group stage. What's more, in this round of 16 Benfica will play against Club Brugge and I think Benfica is still the best when compared to Club Brugge.
Therefore, I am very confident that Benfica will be able to advance to the quarter-finals or maybe even make it to the semi-finals.

But yes, the opponents that Benfica will face in the quarter-finals are also not weak teams, because the quarter-finals are a place for big teams to compete which of course is not easy.
But if I consider Benfica who was unbeaten when playing against PSG, it seems that this season Benfica still has a good chance of advancing to the semi-finals, at least at this moment I'm pretty sure for Benfica.

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November 17, 2022, 05:09:41 PM
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The success and failure of a team to win the Champions League trophy is not due to having many star players in their squad. I prefer to say a team that wins a trophy is a team that is able to work together well and don't panic easily when their position is under pressure.

PSG and Manchester City have always been on the list of favourites, but in reality these two teams have yet to win the UCL title.
The weakness of PSG and Manchester City is not that there are many star players in their squad, but that they are unable to control their emotions when they are in a pressured position, which makes their entire plan fall apart.

When they won the UCL trophy, almost the entire Real Madrid squad was filled with star players, from goalkeepers to strikers. So to become a champion, it is not only necessary to have the strength of a team, the mentality and enthusiasm of the players are also a factor in the success of a team.

I don't see PSG has a club with emotional issues rather i think they are always overzealous and too self confident not as a team but individually this has been the key reason the get knocked out easily. Manchester City might have that issues of controlling their emotions when been pressured by big teams just like what happened last season when the lost to Real Madrid in the UCL. As it stands i doubt if Pep has been able to deal with that, many believe Haaland inclusion in the squad will bring improvement and balance to the club and also help them win the UCL this season the round of 16 will decide who moves on to the round of 8 where the journey of the Champions will begin.
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November 17, 2022, 05:17:17 PM
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if we look at the performance of the two teams since the start of the season, both of them have been inconsistent, Dortmund, which is the same as last season, which did not develop rapidly, they have not been able to be consistent, while Chelsea have not been able to be consistent after changing coaches.

so I think it's an even match and both of them still have the same chance to qualify for the next round.
there is not much difference between the two teams and what determines who will qualify is the team that is more prepared at that time, because in terms of performance and quality the two are not much different and both also have problems with consistency.
Chelsea are more convincing than Dortmund in the Champions League, and Chelsea also looks like a team that is more expected to qualify for the quarter-finals this season than Dortmund.

For now it is very difficult to determine who is most worthy for the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, but I believe that neither of them will want to lose either at home or away. I checked several casinos/ sportbook to find out the odds of the two teams for this match, the result is that Chelsea looks the favorite with lower odds than Dortmund. This means that Chelsea is believed to have won the match compared to Dortmund, for the first leg.

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November 17, 2022, 05:19:23 PM
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if we look at the performance of the two teams since the start of the season, both of them have been inconsistent, Dortmund, which is the same as last season, which did not develop rapidly, they have not been able to be consistent, while Chelsea have not been able to be consistent after changing coaches.
However, the Chelsea team itself really has the opportunity to be consistent after the world cup this season. Because the Chelsea coach will definitely see and evaluate the deficiencies that still exist in his team when he returns to competing in the Champions League. Because the Champions League is a competition that every team takes seriously and will continue to make efforts to be able to play as well as possible.
yes agree with your opinion Chelsea will definitely rise. We have to be patient and see the world cup finish. Chelsea's obstacle to losing might be that many players were injured like Kepa, Kante, James etc. we have to agree that one player has a lot of influence on the team.. we have to remember that.
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November 17, 2022, 06:39:48 PM
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I hope no one forgets or underestimates Benfica, because Benfica is also one of the unbeaten teams in the group stage. What's more, in this round of 16 Benfica will play against Club Brugge and I think Benfica is still the best when compared to Club Brugge.
Therefore, I am very confident that Benfica will be able to advance to the quarter-finals or maybe even make it to the semi-finals.

But yes, the opponents that Benfica will face in the quarter-finals are also not weak teams, because the quarter-finals are a place for big teams to compete which of course is not easy.
But if I consider Benfica who was unbeaten when playing against PSG, it seems that this season Benfica still has a good chance of advancing to the semi-finals, at least at this moment I'm pretty sure for Benfica.
Not only in the Champions League, Benfica is also an unbeaten club in the domestic league. They will surprise me in the Champions League this season in my opinion. They have the advantages needed to compete in the Champions League, their goal productivity is excellent, their defense also has a reliable performance to keep their goal from conceding. Their opponent Club Brugge is a very surprising club, they could have qualified from the group stage by eliminating Leverkusen and Atletico Madrid, but they will face a better opponent than them in the last 16, I predict their journey in the Champions League this season will end in Benfica's hand.

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November 17, 2022, 07:36:39 PM
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When it comes to the Dortmund - Chelsea matchup I can say that Chelsea is clearly the favourite side to advance.

Regardless of the leagues they are both playing in, Chelsea is a much better team than Dortmund this season. Chelsea has demonstrated superior ability in the Champions League group stage match by finishing first in the table above what the Dortmund team demonstrated in their own group stage matches. After the World Cup, I believe this is a straightforward pathway for them to reach the quarterfinals.

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November 17, 2022, 08:15:49 PM
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When it comes to the Dortmund - Chelsea matchup I can say that Chelsea is clearly the favourite side to advance.
Regardless of the leagues they are both playing in, Chelsea is a much better team than Dortmund this season. Chelsea has demonstrated superior ability in the Champions League group stage match by finishing first in the table above what the Dortmund team demonstrated in their own group stage matches. After the World Cup, I believe this is a straightforward pathway for them to reach the quarterfinals.

I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.

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I hope no one forgets or underestimates Benfica, because Benfica is also one of the unbeaten teams in the group stage. What's more, in this round of 16 Benfica will play against Club Brugge and I think Benfica is still the best when compared to Club Brugge.
Therefore, I am very confident that Benfica will be able to advance to the quarter-finals or maybe even make it to the semi-finals.

But yes, the opponents that Benfica will face in the quarter-finals are also not weak teams, because the quarter-finals are a place for big teams to compete which of course is not easy.
But if I consider Benfica who was unbeaten when playing against PSG, it seems that this season Benfica still has a good chance of advancing to the semi-finals, at least at this moment I'm pretty sure for Benfica.
Not only in the Champions League, Benfica is also an unbeaten club in the domestic league. They will surprise me in the Champions League this season in my opinion. They have the advantages needed to compete in the Champions League, their goal productivity is excellent, their defense also has a reliable performance to keep their goal from conceding. Their opponent Club Brugge is a very surprising club, they could have qualified from the group stage by eliminating Leverkusen and Atletico Madrid, but they will face a better opponent than them in the last 16, I predict their journey in the Champions League this season will end in Benfica's hand.
The match for Benfica is going to be a walk in the park for them, considering their strength against Club Brugge. This is football however, and we have seen how the champions league so known for its name never fails to thrill fans with teams who are hungry, no matter their size or strength. Club Brugge might just shock Benefica by winning even if its by just a slim chance.

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November 17, 2022, 09:16:15 PM
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I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.

Actually I also see Chelsea being better than Dortmund in the Champions League.

Because Chelsea are playing different here comparing to their EPL performance. It is the truth that they are really horrible in the EPL these days. They are weak in defense and offense both there. But they somehow manage not to reflect that performance onto their Champions League matches. Despite that performance, being able to defeat Milan two times consecutively really deserves to be appreciated. Their experience in the Champions League must be helping them stay strong as much as possible as well.

I believe Dortmund have bigger defensive issues than Milan in the Champions League. So this is an important chance for Chelsea to reach the quarter finals.

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November 17, 2022, 09:17:41 PM
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I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.

The champions league knock out tie will take place after the worldcup; so it is difficult to judge the players and the team using their pre worldcup performances and form; because by the time club football resumes; alot would have changed (including outgoing or incomings of new signing). I think chelsea will edge through dortmund and qualify
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November 17, 2022, 09:18:10 PM
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These two Clubs are currently in the mid-ranking in their respective league standings, of course this is a match that is balanced and appropriate, as the match between PSG and Bayern Munich is equally tough. When talking about Chelsea and Borussia Dortmund these two teams do not perform consistently in their league, but it's true what people say that they are better at playing in the Champions League, precisely the opposite for these two clubs, at least they can keep up with performance in the League and in the Champions League, if these two clubs continue to play like they are losing consistency in their League, then they don't will appear in the Champions League next season...
There are a lot of teams that play a lot better in UCL than they play in the league. Just to give a few examples, Chelsea won the UCL when they were third or fourth a few years ago, or Frankfurt won Europa when they were like 7th or something in the league.

All of this shows that you do not have to be good in both of them at the same time, we have also seen PSG be the league winner, and then lose to Real Madrid on the last 16 as well. That means you can be just good in one of them and not good in the other one. That’s the type of thing that we are looking at here, both Chelsea and Dortmund could be good teams or maybe they wouldn't be good at all, we don't know.
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November 18, 2022, 12:19:26 AM
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When it comes to the Dortmund - Chelsea matchup I can say that Chelsea is clearly the favourite side to advance.

Because they aren't performing here like they do in the English Premier League. We have seen better performances in the Champions League so far and this carried them to the lead in their group. I know that they didn't have a tough group on paper but Salzburg and Dinamo still made difficulties for them. But they were really successful against a bigger team like Milan. They defeated Milan in both matches. This might be a proof that they can show a similar level of performance against Dortmund also. I don't see Dortmund's defense being strong now. As long as Chelsea are productive in the matchup they should be able to get past Dortmund nicely.

By the way the odds for Chelsea to advance to the quarter-final are like these:


Chelsea as favourites to advance comes as a surprise to me to hear honestly because Chelsea are in a poor form currently and have a poor record of losing four games in a roll now so I'm doubtful that Chelsea can cruise past Dortmund in the Champions league tie against Borussia Dortmund this season. This will be a tough one. I know they are not matched in a tough group but it will not be so easy as most people will expect.
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November 18, 2022, 01:37:40 AM
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I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.

The champions league knock out tie will take place after the worldcup; so it is difficult to judge the players and the team using their pre worldcup performances and form; because by the time club football resumes; alot would have changed (including outgoing or incomings of new signing). I think chelsea will edge through dortmund and qualify
The world cup must not be a thing to change the result from next stage of champion's league. The main concern must be the champion league will be starting after the closed window of next transfer season. there will be lots of changes in the club just like napoli may lose some of its players caused by they were moving to the another club. In another case that real madrid may get a new striker and this help the club to increase its attack. Chelsea was also doing some transfer in the upcoming transfer season.
There will be lots of changes before the next stage of champion league will be started. This may make the result being unpredictable caused by there will be so many new rotation by various clubs.

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November 18, 2022, 03:00:23 AM
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Regardless of the leagues they are both playing in, Chelsea is a much better team than Dortmund this season. Chelsea has demonstrated superior ability in the Champions League group stage match by finishing first in the table above what the Dortmund team demonstrated in their own group stage matches.

If the group stage becomes the benchmark
Chelsea's toughest opponent in group E is Milan, of course Chelsea's challenge to finish in first place is not as difficult as Dortmund who faced Manchester City in group G, one of the best teams this season. Even so, Dortmund recorded success in hold Manchester City to a draw some time ago
In my opinion it is less effective to compare the two teams based on the standings in the group, because each has an opponent with different qualities

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November 18, 2022, 04:17:54 AM
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I can't believe that the Chelsea team is stronger than Dortmund. At least their performance doesn't seem like it. Chelsea's last team performance is very poor. Chelsea has lost points in their last 5 Premier League matches. They are not able to play well. The performance of their forward players is very poor. So I see no reason to think that Chelsea will easily win against Dortmund. Dortmund has a strong squad. And they are capable of beating any team. So Dortmund vs Chelsea match will be very competitive and both teams have a chance to win.

The champions league knock out tie will take place after the worldcup; so it is difficult to judge the players and the team using their pre worldcup performances and form; because by the time club football resumes; alot would have changed (including outgoing or incomings of new signing). I think chelsea will edge through dortmund and qualify
The world cup must not be a thing to change the result from next stage of champion's league. The main concern must be the champion league will be starting after the closed window of next transfer season. there will be lots of changes in the club just like napoli may lose some of its players caused by they were moving to the another club. In another case that real madrid may get a new striker and this help the club to increase its attack. Chelsea was also doing some transfer in the upcoming transfer season.
There will be lots of changes before the next stage of champion league will be started. This may make the result being unpredictable caused by there will be so many new rotation by various clubs.

I might not be aware of any rumors yet, but I highly doubt that any player of the most important Napoli players will leave the club during the upcoming transfer window. What would have to happen that a player leaves Napoli now given how they are performing? That doesn't make any sense.

Usually the World Cup wouldn't necessarily change anything, but injuries could play a role. They could of course occur in any game outside of a World Cup of course. Since we have some major matches at this stage of the Champions League it is just natural that every team hopes to get started into the next phase with the full squad. Everyone on board in order to be able to give their best.

There is one thing that might a difference and that is when a team with many Premier League players wins the World Cup. The final is on December 18th and the PL will continue on December 26th. That is literally no break frankly speaking and might be very stressful physically. Those players might perhaps be more prone to injuries.

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When it comes to the Dortmund - Chelsea matchup I can say that Chelsea is clearly the favourite side to advance.

Regardless of the leagues they are both playing in, Chelsea is a much better team than Dortmund this season. Chelsea has demonstrated superior ability in the Champions League group stage match by finishing first in the table above what the Dortmund team demonstrated in their own group stage matches. After the World Cup, I believe this is a straightforward pathway for them to reach the quarterfinals.

I don't think,  Chelsea can defeat Dortmund in their next match because Chelsea performance in this season has reduced since they sacked their potential coach few months ago, which is making other small teams to defeated them in this UEFA champions league competition. Based on their last match, I think Dortmund are in a good position to challenge Chelsea to achieve victory that will make people to believe that Dortmund has a potential players in this season. No matter how prepared Chelsea will prepare after the holiday, it will be difficult for them to win Dortmund because Dortmund players are very good to withstand Chelsea after the holiday.

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I don't think,  Chelsea can defeat Dortmund in their next match because Chelsea performance in this season has reduced since they sacked their potential coach few months ago, which is making other small teams to defeated them in this UEFA champions league competition. Based on their last match, I think Dortmund are in a good position to challenge Chelsea to achieve victory that will make people to believe that Dortmund has a potential players in this season. No matter how prepared Chelsea will prepare after the holiday, it will be difficult for them to win Dortmund because Dortmund players are very good to withstand Chelsea after the holiday.
The Chelsea versus Dortmund match is very difficult to predict, but in my opinion their meeting is very even. The meeting between British and German representatives was their first meeting in history.

The Knockout Phase of the Champions League will still take place in February, both teams still have a long time to improve. But especially for Chelsea, if Potter doesn't revamp his squad, then the Blues' steps will be very difficult.

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