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Author Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers👉Group Stage👉1/8  (Read 32215 times)
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June 23, 2024, 02:26:52 PM
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Portugal didn't even have to play well. Turkey just helped them score goals very easily. Normally none of those goals would be conceded this easy by a team which know how to defend. Turkey are still lacking in defense too much.  Sad

Therefore I can't say Portugal were impressive for real. If Turkey improved their defending there would be a huge chance for them to get at least one point. Remember the Portugal - Czechia game. Czechia knew how to defend and Portugal had huge difficulties. They barely won by a goal in the stoppage time. Turkey have a much bigger player quality than Czechia. They wouldn't lose like Czechia did if they played decently.

Lastly this is on Montella... His player preferences were like a joke.

The biggest reason why Turkey lost was the wrong player choices. If you do not play the best player of the team, it is impossible to gain points in such a match. Turkey's squad is not a very good squad anyway. Moreover, when he is on the field without Arda Güler, he does not have much chance of scoring a goal anyway.
Defenders are terrible, Turkey doesn't have much of a chance with these defenders. This is the most important reason why they conceded 3 goals
Portugal is better of than Turkey and stringer than them. This was why the match ended that way. Portugal has some good players in their team and that is the advantage that they had over Turkey.

Turkey did well in their first match against Czechia and that is why some people are complaining but the fact is that even if Turkey have their best players on the pitch, they will not be able to win Portugal. Turkey will be the next country to qualify to the round of 16 with Portugal.

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June 23, 2024, 02:29:23 PM
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Germany may be cruising to victory today but it will not be an easy one because Switzerland need the win as much as Germany.

Germany is qualified no matter what, Switzerland needs 1 point to be sure of it, and there is hardly the same need for a win between the two.

Germany and Switzerland are already in the safe zone; therefore, i see no justification for Germany and Switzerland holding themselves from going all in this game.

Why not? Germany and Switzerland are both happy with 1 point, why risking your players with both fatigue and the threat of accumulating yellow cards when you can simply play the game as you play a training match and everyone is happy?
It's the perfect break in the middle of the competition!

Also, I don't understand why some still think Turkey made some mistakes and that they could have played better or some, forgetting they did beat Georgia but it's a team that has never played before at the Euro, a team coming from the last qualified and ended in group stages after Scotland and Norway on fourth position. Seriously, what did anyone expect?

Turkey did well in their first match against Czechia  

When did that happened and what was the score?

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Our player failed miserable but he had a huge chance to score in the end and win the match.

Yup, I know, if only you would have scored more goals than they did you would have won!  Grin

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June 23, 2024, 02:41:55 PM
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Group E is very tight where each team has 3 points. As a result, with these results, Belgium and Romania are still not safe from qualifying for the preliminary round.

This is the most tense group where all teams have the same points and they all have the same chance of qualifying. Each team has achieved one win and that is an important asset to determine their chances of qualifying for the knockout rounds. It's just that Belgium is the unluckiest seed in this group phase after suffering a previous defeat against Slovakia, but there is still hope after they managed to beat Romania.

I'm curious which two teams will progress to the next round and of course I favor Belgium because they also have other capital than goal difference. But they still have to win if they don't want to be eliminated from the group stage. Romania is a dark horse team in this European event and maybe we will be able to see it take a step forward with Belgium in the final match.

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June 23, 2024, 03:28:39 PM
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Why not? Germany and Switzerland are both happy with 1 point, why risking your players with both fatigue and the threat of accumulating yellow cards
when you can simply play the game as you play a training match and everyone is happy?
It's the perfect break in the middle of the competition!
I have seen the press conference from Germany and here Nagelsmann said that he dont change the starting squad.
Even there are palyers that have already yellow cards , he justified this that other players can replace the ones if they get a second card.
Also he wants to win tha game against Switzerland not just playing draw , germany will be going fully in today for that game.

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June 23, 2024, 03:32:40 PM
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Also, I don't understand why some still think Turkey made some mistakes and that they could have played better or some, forgetting they did beat Georgia but it's a team that has never played before at the Euro, a team coming from the last qualified and ended in group stages after Scotland and Norway on fourth position. Seriously, what did anyone expect?

Of course Turkey made huge mistakes. Above all else, the 2nd goal was nothing different than a joke. The other goals were also because of silly defensive weaknesses. If they played better I have 0 doubt Portugal would have serious difficulties. Do you really think Portugal have been that impressive so far? I don't agree if you do.

Against Czechia for example. Do you think Portugal performed well? They had huge problems on winning the match. I would really like to watch Portugal against Germany for example. Most probably they would fail.  Smiley

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June 23, 2024, 03:49:39 PM
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Of course Turkey made huge mistakes. Above all else, the 2nd goal was nothing different than a joke. The other goals were also because of silly defensive weaknesses. If they played better I have 0 doubt Portugal would have serious difficulties. Do you really think Portugal have been that impressive so far? I don't agree if you do.

Against Czechia for example. Do you think Portugal performed well? They had huge problems on winning the match. I would really like to watch Portugal against Germany for example. Most probably they would fail.  Smiley
After the second goal occurred, the Turkish players were increasingly under pressure and their confidence decreased due to fatal mistakes at the back. As a result, the direction of the match was increasingly dominated by Portugal, which made it increasingly difficult for Turkey to get out of the pressure. This victory meant that Portugal did not have the slightest burden in the final match of the group stage because whatever the result they were certain to qualify for the next round.

While Turkey still has a chance to qualify, they must achieve victory in the last match or at least a draw and Georgia failed to get full points from Portugal. I think Turkey will not have any problems when facing Georgia, it is very likely that they will accompany Portugal to qualify for the next round.

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June 23, 2024, 03:50:10 PM
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Scotland vs Hungary

This match is very important for both teams as neither can afford to share points at this stage. Scotland has only one point so far after a draw against Switzerland and losing against Germany, making this a potential opportunity to take advantage on Switzerland, who face Germany with lower chances of winning today. Meanwhile, Hungary can keep their hopes alive in advancing from the group stage if they secure three points today. The close match odds of 2.60 - 3.80 - 2.45 is showing us the competitiveness and also a promising entertaining match hopefully.

Germany against Switzerland in the other also can be exciting one as the latter needs points to avoid complex calculations for the next round. Both teams will aim for a potentially weaker opponent by finishing first in the group standings.

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The biggest challenge for Lukaku isn't the opponent's defense, but rather VAR. Lukaku may become the top scorer if all of his goals are not ruled out by VAR, and it appears that his big physique contributed to his chances of being caught by var. It saddens me that people continue to blame him, despite the fact that Lukaku assisted once in the game against Rumania.



God!!This VAR regulation is becoming even more ridiculous since Lukaku has huge knees, which VAR interprets as an offside.

But rules are rules, if they are violated even by a millimeter, then this is a violation. Yes, this is unpleasant, but imagine if the referee counted goals in such situations? The defending team would be outraged. To avoid such situations, the attacker should not “hang” on the offside line, but should run out from behind the defender at the right moment.

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I wanted to underline the Portugal match and a certain Cristiano Ronaldo who became the best assistman in the history of the European Championships. There is no point in underlining his greatness. He is truly a giant who breaks record after record. He is also the player who has played in the most European Championships. 6 in particular he is truly amazing what a wonderful player

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Of course Turkey made huge mistakes. Above all else, the 2nd goal was nothing different than a joke. The other goals were also because of silly defensive weaknesses. If they played better I have 0 doubt Portugal would have serious difficulties. Do you really think Portugal have been that impressive so far? I don't agree if you do.

Based on the same logic if I wouldn't make a fool of myself by dropping the ball, falling on the field and I would serve with 100% accuracy I would trash Nadal 6-0 6-0. Just as I told the guy above, If Turkey hadn't received 3 goals but instead scored 1 they would have won, but!, they did because that's how they played!
If SanMarino would make a game in which they make zero mistakes they would beat Argentina 10-0, but they can't play as well as that just as Turkey can't play without major errors when facing a real adversary.

I don't understand why is there so much copium in Turkeys' camp, Romania beat Ukraine 3-0 but got trashed by Belgium yet I don't see anyone blaming the alignment of Uranus and Pluto on the result.


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Portugal is better of than Turkey and stringer than them. This was why the match ended that way. Portugal has some good players in their team and that is the advantage that they had over Turkey.

Turkey did well in their first match against Czechia and that is why some people are complaining but the fact is that even if Turkey have their best players on the pitch, they will not be able to win Portugal. Turkey will be the next country to qualify to the round of 16 with Portugal.
I think you are right that Portugal is indeed quality and currently Turkey still cannot surpass the strength of Portugal's national team. Overall Portugal quality is above Türkiye, but if we talk about who will accompany Portugal through the group stage, Turkey is still better than Czechia and Georgia.

Portugal deserved the full 3 points, while the Turkish players were mentally down in the first half but still struggled to take advantage of the few opportunities. After the second goal, which was caused by miscommunication between the defender and goalkeeper, it was enough to put Türkiye under even more pressure. btw, Ronaldo again set a record with a collection of 8 assists at the Euros and it is proven that Portugal still needs Ronaldo one more time.

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June 23, 2024, 04:30:14 PM
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Based on the same logic if I wouldn't make a fool of myself by dropping the ball, falling on the field and I would serve with 100% accuracy I would trash Nadal 6-0 6-0. Just as I told the guy above, If Turkey hadn't received 3 goals but instead scored 1 they would have won, but!, they did because that's how they played!
If SanMarino would make a game in which they make zero mistakes they would beat Argentina 10-0, but they can't play as well as that just as Turkey can't play without major errors when facing a real adversary.

I don't understand why is there so much copium in Turkeys' camp, Romania beat Ukraine 3-0 but got trashed by Belgium yet I don't see anyone blaming the alignment of Uranus and Pluto on the result.

I'm already criticizing the way Turkey played. I'm not saying like Turkey are the best.  Grin  The manager made big mistakes while determining the starting lineup and it affected the game plan significantly. I'm just saying they don't deserve to be underestimated like they had no chance against Portugal from the start. They needed to fix their defensive problems but they couldn't. This isn't an excuse of course but a reason to play worse.



Anyway, today Switzerland would make use of at least 1 point because they haven't officially secured top 2. I think Nagelsmann would prefer some rotation to rest some of his main players which would be wise.

It is quite hard to predict the outcome of the Scotland - Hungary match. It is quite likely to end in a draw to me but if I bet on a side my choice would be Scotland which are shown as the underdog now.  Smiley

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Today, the last matches of Euro 2024 Group A will take place. Switzerland plays against Germany, and Scotland faces Hungary. If Hungary doesn’t win, they’re out of the tournament. Scotland will also be eliminated if they lose. A draw gives Scotland a chance to qualify as one of the third-best teams. If Scotland wins, they move on to the next round. Meanwhile, Germany and Switzerland compete for the top two spots in the group.

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I have seen the press conference from Germany and here Nagelsmann said that he dont change the starting squad.
Even there are palyers that have already yellow cards , he justified this that other players can replace the ones if they get a second card.
Also he wants to win tha game against Switzerland not just playing draw , germany will be going fully in today for that game.
Now that we know that Germany will not change any squad as stated in the press conference yes there is still a possibility of Germany winning but obviously Switzerland's hope is to draw.

Germany is unlikely to underestimate this match even though it has already qualified this match is still important for it to become the group champion.
I will make sure to bet on Germany as I don't believe it will be a draw.

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I have seen the press conference from Germany and here Nagelsmann said that he dont change the starting squad.
Even there are palyers that have already yellow cards , he justified this that other players can replace the ones if they get a second card.
Also he wants to win tha game against Switzerland not just playing draw , germany will be going fully in today for that game.
Now that we know that Germany will not change any squad as stated in the press conference yes there is still a possibility of Germany winning but obviously Switzerland's hope is to draw.

Germany is unlikely to underestimate this match even though it has already qualified this match is still important for it to become the group champion.
I will make sure to bet on Germany as I don't believe it will be a draw.


Switzerland has a position that is not yet safe, at least to qualify for the round of 16, Switzerland still needs 1 more point. So with that one point, they will have great potential to become one of the four best third-placed teams. Meanwhile, Germany has certainly qualified for the last 16, but if Julian Nagelsmann still insists on not rotating his squad, that means he indeed had the ambition to obtain absolute victory, so it won't be easy for Switzerland to just get 1 point.

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I have seen the press conference from Germany and here Nagelsmann said that he dont change the starting squad.
Even there are palyers that have already yellow cards , he justified this that other players can replace the ones if they get a second card.
Also he wants to win tha game against Switzerland not just playing draw , germany will be going fully in today for that game.

I don't even believe what he told the press because the Germany we saw at the world was terrible and they haven't been themselves not until Nagelsmann took over and since then we saw the changes he has made with the team. Winning all 3 games would serve as a message to the other countries that the host are here for business and it would be nice to see the German side get a win against a stubborn Switzerland.
If the German coach wants to spare some players ahead of the round of 16 it won't really affect the team because everyone wants to play out his best to impress so I see a hungry Germany team but never forget that Switzerland would want to get a piece of the unbeaten host.

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June 23, 2024, 05:06:39 PM
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If I were in Nagelsmann's place I would definitely make changes. Why would you want to risk your players while you have qualified already?

If it is for satisfying the supporters more it is still not reasonable in the long term. It might affect their performance in their next game after the group stage badly because of fatigue etc. as well. I don't think Germany would lose the lead anyway with a little change in the usual starting eleven. I'm really curious what Germany will do in games against bigger teams after the groups.  Smiley

When it comes to the other game of the group, both teams to score looks reasonable. It is the last chance for qualifying according to third-placed teams ranking at least.

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June 23, 2024, 05:09:22 PM
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Scotland vs Hungary

This match is very important for both teams as neither can afford to share points at this stage. Scotland has only one point so far after a draw against Switzerland and losing against Germany, making this a potential opportunity to take advantage on Switzerland, who face Germany with lower chances of winning today. Meanwhile, Hungary can keep their hopes alive in advancing from the group stage if they secure three points today. The close match odds of 2.60 - 3.80 - 2.45 is showing us the competitiveness and also a promising entertaining match hopefully.

Germany against Switzerland in the other also can be exciting one as the latter needs points to avoid complex calculations for the next round. Both teams will aim for a potentially weaker opponent by finishing first in the group standings.
You've said it yourself that Scotland were able to hold Switzerland who have been performing well in this tournament to a draw and you think Hungary will stand a chance? The two sides will be struggling to get above the other but of the two, I feel Scotland has more chances of winning the game than Hungary. They were beaten in the opening game by Germany but seemed to find their footing against Switzerland and if anything they will try to gain full control of the match tonight, having the advantage of playing against a team who have been unimpressive in this competition.
 
Hungary have got good strikers too who can cause upsets to any team but so far it seems they've been made quiet, maybe today can be different? This game will not be boring in any way and if I were to predict the outcome, it will be a GG event.

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Meanwhile, Germany and Switzerland compete for the top two spots in the group.
I trust Germany will be playing to win the match although they won two matches and in goal differences they are far away from anyone else. I have a few bets on Germany, if they can win and can win by a difference of more than 2 goals then I am going to make some money LOL

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June 23, 2024, 05:17:59 PM
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If I were in Nagelsmann's place I would definitely make changes. Why would you want to risk your players while you have qualified already?

If it is for satisfying the supporters more it is still not reasonable in the long term. It might affect their performance in their next game after the group stage badly because of fatigue etc. as well. I don't think Germany would lose the lead anyway with a little change in the usual starting eleven. I'm really curious what Germany will do in games against bigger teams after the groups.  Smiley

When it comes to the other game of the group, both teams to score looks reasonable. It is the last chance for qualifying according to third-placed teams ranking at least.

Well, I love your idea. I think I'll buy it if I was Julian Nagelsmann. That will definitely help to keep the squad fresh for the knockout stages.
They're my favorite country to win this Competition.

I'm beginning to think they'll settle for a draw against Switzerland. If the Swiss can get that, they'll automatically get w place in the next round. This is not a do or die affair game for Germany. But let's wait to see what plans Julian Nagelsmann has for the German national team.

I'm beginning to think the Dutch national team will go far. They have a coach who won this same trophy and Competition years ago, I think the very first time Germany hosted this Competition. Let's see if history can repeat itself again. During big Competitions like this, you need experience.

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