who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections?

[retreat]

I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

It would be quite risky to bet on the 2024 US election because we know that Trump and Biden both have forces and supporters who can change US political conditions and make this election more difficult to predict. Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

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[wiss19]

Why bet on a bad candidate? You can just support your candidate and if you are confident about it then betting is fine, that can also make you money after all. Anyway, i respect this and we cannot force anyone to have a bet especially this is not a sports betting after all. This could be a crucial election, many countries are starting to look for alternatives for the USD, and I hope that this election can make US great again, we badly needed a great and strong leader.

If you are looking for a strong leader, then I don't think that someone in their late 70s or early 80s would become one. We have already seen Biden's policies and they have failed to boost the American economy. And the weakness of the US Dollar is not something that happened all of a sudden. For many decades, the Americans have been taking advantage of the fact that USD is the reserve currency of the world. They have been taking trillions of USD worth of loans, paying near-zero interest rates. Other countries have noticed this and they have taken a collective decision to phase out the US Dollar.

Well, to be honest, the decision to phase out the US dollar doesn't really seem to be a collective decision but more like a rivalry from some of the countries with the United States, the main rivals are probably China and Russia which are currently in news for ditching the US dollar and using their own currencies or Chinese yuan for their trades.

Still, I do partly agree with your point that a good leader has to have good policies and abilities to make an economy become better and prosper over time instead of going downhill, and the age factor might play a role in this as people tend to have better decision taking abilities when they are a bit younger than those who are aged.

[Hispo]

I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

Actually, surveys and polls are not always accurate, specially during these times of polarization, there is a silent majority of people who may choose not to openly talk about their political point of views.

Take for example the last mid-term elections in the United States, there was allegedly a "red wave" coming in and according to polls democrats would have lost both the senate and the the house of representatives. In the end, republican barely could win the house.  

So, I respect your point of view about political betting, but I don't give so much credit to pollsters.

[Yatsan]

The US elections is still far away. Although the political preparations are definitely underway already, bettors should still wait before betting. The elections will be held more than one year and six months from now. That's still a long way. There will still be many things that could happen within that time span. We don't even know if those people who are assumed to be the candidates in the 2024 elections are the ones who will actually be running. Trump for instance may not be there in the 2024 race.

There is enough logic in your statement. Massive changes can happen over a long period of time. Moreover, those willing to bet on following Joe Biden or Donald Trump have considerable uncertainty as to whether they will be elected at that time. Betting odds among gamblers may also change around this election when that moment approaches. I think we should wait more before considering such matters. Because any change can happen. Moreover, since there is a long time for the election, gamblers should wait patiently.

Media manipulation, vote buying, propaganda; these are things which could make changes with regards to the poll. If you are just gambling things out and not really into the essence of the result, this would be a risky line to deal with. But most of the time, regardless of their image, the one who is more popular would be the winner than the other who is more of promoting the actual service.

I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

It would be quite risky to bet on the 2024 US election because we know that Trump and Biden both have forces and supporters who can change US political conditions and make this election more difficult to predict. Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

Indeed, aside from the fact that I'm not a citizen of U.S., I think this will just be hard to win somehow; politics is just way too complex and would be easier to win on sportsbetting. I actually percieve betting on elections quite "dark" because if you would look for an in depth aspect, it is a country's future which would be the bottomline and betting for it somehow adds up with the burden if the winner of election happened to be bad for a country.

[nullama]

~snip~
Actually, surveys and polls are not always accurate, specially during these times of polarization, there is a silent majority of people who may choose not to openly talk about their political point of views.

Take for example the last mid-term elections in the United States, there was allegedly a "red wave" coming in and according to polls democrats would have lost both the senate and the the house of representatives. In the end, republican barely could win the house.  

So, I respect your point of view about political betting, but I don't give so much credit to pollsters.

That's why they are a sample, and they are always biased.

For example a phone survey is probably biased towards older people, because younger people tend to not have landlines, etc.

Also it's a very small sample anyway. Although models are getting very sophisticated, all that matters is the actual election, because things can change dramatically in days.

[Fundamentals Of]

The US elections is still far away. Although the political preparations are definitely underway already, bettors should still wait before betting. The elections will be held more than one year and six months from now. That's still a long way. There will still be many things that could happen within that time span. We don't even know if those people who are assumed to be the candidates in the 2024 elections are the ones who will actually be running. Trump for instance may not be there in the 2024 race.

There is enough logic in your statement. Massive changes can happen over a long period of time. Moreover, those willing to bet on following Joe Biden or Donald Trump have considerable uncertainty as to whether they will be elected at that time. Betting odds among gamblers may also change around this election when that moment approaches. I think we should wait more before considering such matters. Because any change can happen. Moreover, since there is a long time for the election, gamblers should wait patiently.

In politics, the wind can change easily and quickly. One false statement may turn the entire public sentiment around. One confidential file from a candidate leading in surveys leaked and it could upend everything. A dark horse candidate could end up winning the race. So if I am betting on US elections, I will have to place my bets as soon as the election day is near. It is when a surprise factor that could possibly change the potential results is no longer expected.

[bittraffic]

The US elections is still far away. Although the political preparations are definitely underway already, bettors should still wait before betting. The elections will be held more than one year and six months from now. That's still a long way. There will still be many things that could happen within that time span. We don't even know if those people who are assumed to be the candidates in the 2024 elections are the ones who will actually be running. Trump for instance may not be there in the 2024 race.

There is enough logic in your statement. Massive changes can happen over a long period of time. Moreover, those willing to bet on following Joe Biden or Donald Trump have considerable uncertainty as to whether they will be elected at that time. Betting odds among gamblers may also change around this election when that moment approaches. I think we should wait more before considering such matters. Because any change can happen. Moreover, since there is a long time for the election, gamblers should wait patiently.

In politics, the wind can change easily and quickly. One false statement may turn the entire public sentiment around. One confidential file from a candidate leading in surveys leaked and it could upend everything. A dark horse candidate could end up winning the race. So if I am betting on US elections, I will have to place my bets as soon as the election day is near. It is when a surprise factor that could possibly change the potential results is no longer expected.

The odds will be very different by then when you place a bet just a day before the election. You will be missing potential profits when you could just learn what people are saying. Candidates are judged by the sentiments and what they did in the past and who they would believe whether the mainstream media or the youtube influencers who are constantly updated with what is going on not just in the DC.

There is a year and a half still and things could change after a year when Biden will start distributing stimi checks again and canceling loans. That will make him win the race. But of course, the consequences will follow. We'll just see what happens. The news halfway around the world can change the course though.

[btc78]

while it is too early to talk about whom to choose(as candidate) still we are not sure who will be the candidate per party so  maybe talking about this is not to be tackled now(unless we are Biden supporter)

But talking about the topic , I am not interested in any form of political gambling as I once tried betting in our local politician that ends out being cheated and lose.

and also one thing is that there are so many place where to bet.

[gunhell16]

Many candidates will run for the presidency in the US in the coming 2024. And I see only two groups that the candidates can come from and these are democrats and Republicans.

The Republicans who can run are Trump, Youngkin, Scott, Sununu, Ramaswamy, Rubio, Pence, Noem, Hutchinson, Laffy, Bolton, Cheney, and others. And for the Democrats, Sina Biden, Sanders, Warren, Polis, Pritzker, Klobuchar, Cortez, Harris, Kennedy Jr., and Williamson. It's hard to predict who will win out of those, let's see. But I'm pretty sure Trump and Biden will face again at the end of the games, just a thought of mine only.

[SirLancelot]

Many candidates will run for the presidency in the US in the coming 2024. And I see only two groups that the candidates can come from and these are democrats and Republicans.

The Republicans who can run are Trump, Youngkin, Scott, Sununu, Ramaswamy, Rubio, Pence, Noem, Hutchinson, Laffy, Bolton, Cheney, and others. And for the Democrats, Sina Biden, Sanders, Warren, Polis, Pritzker, Klobuchar, Cortez, Harris, Kennedy Jr., and Williamson. It's hard to predict who will win out of those, let's see. But I'm pretty sure Trump and Biden will face again at the end of the games, just a thought of mine only.

From the Republicans group, my vote would go for Trump while for the democrats I think I will go for Biden because so far these two candidates are the hottest in the publics eye but if I were to choose if who will win between them I think I will go for Trump as I think many people are also in favor with Trump and he is more popular than in Biden.

Many people think that Bidens victory is not fair. This is one of the reasons why me and others dislike this guy. In spite of these analyses I made, I am still not betting on 2024 elections because it's not really my game and I am already playing a lot of gambling games lately. I don't want to add more and complicate things further.

[Hispo]

~snip~
Actually, surveys and polls are not always accurate, specially during these times of polarization, there is a silent majority of people who may choose not to openly talk about their political point of views.

Take for example the last mid-term elections in the United States, there was allegedly a "red wave" coming in and according to polls democrats would have lost both the senate and the the house of representatives. In the end, republican barely could win the house.  

So, I respect your point of view about political betting, but I don't give so much credit to pollsters.

That's why they are a sample, and they are always biased.

For example a phone survey is probably biased towards older people, because younger people tend to not have landlines, etc.

Also it's a very small sample anyway. Although models are getting very sophisticated, all that matters is the actual election, because things can change dramatically in days.

I mostly I agree. I think elections are getting more unpredictable as the politics in the United States are moving from the center to the opposite sides of the spectrum.

I would not be surprised if polls and surveys would be trying to use information gathered from the population through the use of social media and other technologies which the population is used to nowadays.

They may feel tempted because, it may be more effective for them pay Google for a package of personal information for them to analyze than actually invest hundreds of hours asking people about their political preferences in an explicit manner, not everyone feels comfortable talking about it or express what they truly feel.

[Slow death]

Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

As I am not a US citizen and I don't live in the US either, everything I know about US election campaigns comes from the news channels, and from what I read the US elections are fair, there is no fraud, so I know to what extent the campaigns would they be manipulated and how would they be manipulated, wouldn't that be a crime and wouldn't the courts stop that sort of thing? because from what I see in the press, the US justice system is neutral, they are not controlled by political parties and the government, so in the US democracy and elections work in a way that there is no fraud, so I don't understand why you are saying that campaigns are manipulated


it's strange that trump is no longer president but since he stopped being president he manages to get more attention in the news channels in relation to biden, even if many of the things that make trump appear more in the news channels are not the type of things with a good reputation, but the guy doesn't go without attention, I wonder why biden is a president who doesn't get much attention in the news? the only news I see biden appear on is related to ukraine or nato or something that has to do with russia, but even in that, biden doesn't get much attention. I wonder what would happen if the elections were bides vs trump again

[nullama]

~snip~
I mostly I agree. I think elections are getting more unpredictable as the politics in the United States are moving from the center to the opposite sides of the spectrum.

I would not be surprised if polls and surveys would be trying to use information gathered from the population through the use of social media and other technologies which the population is used to nowadays.

They may feel tempted because, it may be more effective for them pay Google for a package of personal information for them to analyze than actually invest hundreds of hours asking people about their political preferences in an explicit manner, not everyone feels comfortable talking about it or express what they truly feel.

The thing is that advertisers and politicians, etc, have always wanted to put people in a box and feed them information to change their minds into their advantage. It used to be very broad, but now it's starting to be targeted specifically to each person through their phones.

Every time an app in your phone suggests you something, a video, an article, a photo, whatever, if it comes from a company, it probably means that someone is pushing you slightly to whatever they want to think. That's advertisement, but on a fine grained level.

I would encourage people not to use these platforms if they want to have independent thought and full control of their minds.

[Reatim]

I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

It would be quite risky to bet on the 2024 US election because we know that Trump and Biden both have forces and supporters who can change US political conditions and make this election more difficult to predict. Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

it is as what we have been hearing from news around the world that there is manipulation happening in campaigning and yes also there are chance that Donald  Trump will take part again and change the momentum of Biden.
but about interest in betting? of course I am because this is a worldwide event that gamblers need to take part 
have missed the recent election so maybe this time I will take the right bet.

[bittraffic]

I don't want to bet in any elections because of the surveys being handled by survey agencies, these survey agencies are good at predicting the right winner and even the percentages of the leads.
I can cite one example and it's my country where it accurately predicted the result for the past 30 years, and even in America, survey companies are good at predicting the outcome so it's no use making bet on predictions.
We can do our betting right after the announcement of the party's representative but it's useless during the campaign, especially now that everything is automated.

It would be quite risky to bet on the 2024 US election because we know that Trump and Biden both have forces and supporters who can change US political conditions and make this election more difficult to predict. Moreover, the US is known for its often manipulative campaigns and bribery which makes it not worth it to bet on this election.

it is as what we have been hearing from news around the world that there is manipulation happening in campaigning and yes also there are chance that Donald  Trump will take part again and change the momentum of Biden.
but about interest in betting? of course I am because this is a worldwide event that gamblers need to take part 
have missed the recent election so maybe this time I will take the right bet.

Well, they've already conspired to indict Trump with charges about his businesses in the past. It might be hard for him to really win unless he can fight back and win. Or this will strike a revolution which could make his situation a lot worse. There is just too much that could happen. 

If Trump will not be able to participate in the election, you can be sure that it's Biden who will win. A sure win for the gamblers but very uncertain where the economy goes.

[TheGreatPython]

while it is too early to talk about whom to choose(as candidate) still we are not sure who will be the candidate per party so  maybe talking about this is not to be tackled now(unless we are Biden supporter)

But talking about the topic , I am not interested in any form of political gambling as I once tried betting in our local politician that ends out being cheated and lose.

and also one thing is that there are so many place where to bet.

Is there corruption in your country? Because if there is, you have simply wasted your money betting on the elections in that case. A corrupted system can never be stable and there will always be changes happening around, and when it's elections season, you better stay away from betting on them because the elections are where the biggest corruptions happen.

I believe if bookies have betting open for the elections of the USA of 2024, they probably know who the candidates would be, or you can simply bet on the parties that the candidates come from, so that shouldn't be a concern, but who the winner will be, is obviously what requires some research.

[Fundamentals Of]

The US elections is still far away. Although the political preparations are definitely underway already, bettors should still wait before betting. The elections will be held more than one year and six months from now. That's still a long way. There will still be many things that could happen within that time span. We don't even know if those people who are assumed to be the candidates in the 2024 elections are the ones who will actually be running. Trump for instance may not be there in the 2024 race.

There is enough logic in your statement. Massive changes can happen over a long period of time. Moreover, those willing to bet on following Joe Biden or Donald Trump have considerable uncertainty as to whether they will be elected at that time. Betting odds among gamblers may also change around this election when that moment approaches. I think we should wait more before considering such matters. Because any change can happen. Moreover, since there is a long time for the election, gamblers should wait patiently.

In politics, the wind can change easily and quickly. One false statement may turn the entire public sentiment around. One confidential file from a candidate leading in surveys leaked and it could upend everything. A dark horse candidate could end up winning the race. So if I am betting on US elections, I will have to place my bets as soon as the election day is near. It is when a surprise factor that could possibly change the potential results is no longer expected.

The odds will be very different by then when you place a bet just a day before the election. You will be missing potential profits when you could just learn what people are saying. Candidates are judged by the sentiments and what they did in the past and who they would believe whether the mainstream media or the youtube influencers who are constantly updated with what is going on not just in the DC.

There is a year and a half still and things could change after a year when Biden will start distributing stimi checks again and canceling loans. That will make him win the race. But of course, the consequences will follow. We'll just see what happens. The news halfway around the world can change the course though.

Not necessarily a day before the elections. Betting might even be closed by then. Perhaps a week or two will do.

Betting as the event draws closer may actually go both ways. It could indeed mean that you miss potential profit, but it could also mean that you will have the opportunity for a much bigger profit. For instance, Biden may be the favorite now and Trump the underdog. But it is possible that a year from now, Trump will become the new favorite and Biden the underdog.

You are right, the distribution of stimulus checks is a big factor and the betting odds for Biden might go down as he becomes the stronger favorite, but it does not necessarily make him win. If that's 6 months before the elections, this old man could still literally stumble a number of times while walking down the Air Force One or make more gibberish speeches and appear too old to earn a new term. This could mean that his betting odds will go much higher as he becomes the underdog because people find him unfit for office.

[madnessteat]

Biden should have retired a long time ago.

The recent story with the indictment of Trump really surprised me. As far as I know, these charges are not preventing Trump from running for office. Personally, I see only two real contenders to win the 2024 election so far - Biden and Trump. It's hard to say exactly who will win.

[Hispo]

~snip~
I mostly I agree. I think elections are getting more unpredictable as the politics in the United States are moving from the center to the opposite sides of the spectrum.

I would not be surprised if polls and surveys would be trying to use information gathered from the population through the use of social media and other technologies which the population is used to nowadays.

They may feel tempted because, it may be more effective for them pay Google for a package of personal information for them to analyze than actually invest hundreds of hours asking people about their political preferences in an explicit manner, not everyone feels comfortable talking about it or express what they truly feel.

The thing is that advertisers and politicians, etc, have always wanted to put people in a box and feed them information to change their minds into their advantage. It used to be very broad, but now it's starting to be targeted specifically to each person through their phones.

Every time an app in your phone suggests you something, a video, an article, a photo, whatever, if it comes from a company, it probably means that someone is pushing you slightly to whatever they want to think. That's advertisement, but on a fine grained level.

I would encourage people not to use these platforms if they want to have independent thought and full control of their minds.

Very unlikely to happen, most of the people in the world are already accustomed to using their phones to get their news and even those that are pushed on purpose to change the narrative and distract the population from more severe troubles. Even on TV, the News are not what they used to be.

I recall when I was younger, it all just the reporter giving facts and reserving their opinions, but now we see reporters and journalists taking about their feelings opinions and even sometimes openly mocking political adversaries on air. This tendency has become more common these last years as newspapers continue to disappear.

[bittraffic]

Biden should have retired a long time ago.

The recent story with the indictment of Trump really surprised me. As far as I know, these charges are not preventing Trump from running for office. Personally, I see only two real contenders to win the 2024 election so far - Biden and Trump. It's hard to say exactly who will win.

They really screw Trump making sure he will not run. This is going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Desantis is not the president type also and even if he is popular he wouldn't win. They will also find faults against him.

So much power is given to the old man who can't even finish a sentence and then mumbles something SOTU.
If we are not to consider our bets but just consider the welfare of US as a country, IMO none of them fit to seat but Biden might still win.